Soccer team trapped in cave in Thailand, rescue operation soon

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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,561
    edited July 2018
    Elon Musk shares video of 'kid-size' submarine for Thai cave rescue

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/08/us/elon-musk-thai-cave-rescue/index.html

    I'm sure the Thai government has been in contact with the most prominent experts on cave diving.  8 out now, 5 left.  
    There are 18 divers. Five are from thailand, and the rest international "pros".
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Elon Musk shares video of 'kid-size' submarine for Thai cave rescue

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/08/us/elon-musk-thai-cave-rescue/index.html

    I'm sure the Thai government has been in contact with the most prominent experts on cave diving.  8 out now, 5 left.  
    There are 18 divers. Five are from thailand, and the rest international "pros".
    I do realize that.  But their are divers who specifically dive in caves.  
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • cp3iverson
    cp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    I hope Saman Gunan goes down as a legend and as a mythical figure,  worldwide really but at least in Thailand.  
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,561
    Elon Musk shares video of 'kid-size' submarine for Thai cave rescue

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/08/us/elon-musk-thai-cave-rescue/index.html

    I'm sure the Thai government has been in contact with the most prominent experts on cave diving.  8 out now, 5 left.  
    There are 18 divers. Five are from thailand, and the rest international "pros".
    I do realize that.  But their are divers who specifically dive in caves.  
    I think these divers do. I guess you have to know your stuff, with one diver on CNN saying this "is the mount everest of cave diving" :)
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,669
    Could be a naive question but I wonder if they could have just pumped the water out of the cave in the first place?
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,561
    brianlux said:
    Could be a naive question but I wonder if they could have just pumped the water out of the cave in the first place?
    They have pumped out a lot of water, which has made it easier. 

    When they turned of the pumps for 12 minutes, the water rose 10cm I think.

    The weather is against them. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,669
    brianlux said:
    Could be a naive question but I wonder if they could have just pumped the water out of the cave in the first place?
    They have pumped out a lot of water, which has made it easier. 

    When they turned of the pumps for 12 minutes, the water rose 10cm I think.

    The weather is against them. 
    Sounds like a tough, frustrating job.  I hope they think to block entrance to that cave off after this is all over.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • stuckinline
    stuckinline Posts: 3,407
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    Could be a naive question but I wonder if they could have just pumped the water out of the cave in the first place?
    They have pumped out a lot of water, which has made it easier. 

    When they turned of the pumps for 12 minutes, the water rose 10cm I think.

    The weather is against them. 
    Sounds like a tough, frustrating job.  I hope they think to block entrance to that cave off after this is all over.
    I hope they block the cave off as well when all have been rescued.
    Why did the coach and the boys decide to go into the cave during the rainy season, despite posted warning signs?
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,561
    edited July 2018
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    Could be a naive question but I wonder if they could have just pumped the water out of the cave in the first place?
    They have pumped out a lot of water, which has made it easier. 

    When they turned of the pumps for 12 minutes, the water rose 10cm I think.

    The weather is against them. 
    Sounds like a tough, frustrating job.  I hope they think to block entrance to that cave off after this is all over.
    I hope they block the cave off as well when all have been rescued.
    Why did the coach and the boys decide to go into the cave during the rainy season, despite posted warning signs?
    What i've read: It wasn't raining when they entered. The season for not entering the cave is starting in July with the rainy season - which I guess will be pushed to earlier now. They went in, in june. It's a popular cave where the coach had been many times before.

    Seems a bit unsafe if the cave becomes a deathtrap if you're in there with it starting to rain. Or what caused it to fill up so fast, or them not being able to get out before it filled up.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,892
    brianlux said:
    Could be a naive question but I wonder if they could have just pumped the water out of the cave in the first place?
    As mentioned they did. But not only was weather against them with storms predicted, so was time. I heard oxygen was running out and attempts to pump in air have failed. So with air and bad weather coming there wouldn’t be enough time to pump all the water out.
    They did some which shortened the amount of diving needed though.
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,892
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    Could be a naive question but I wonder if they could have just pumped the water out of the cave in the first place?
    They have pumped out a lot of water, which has made it easier. 

    When they turned of the pumps for 12 minutes, the water rose 10cm I think.

    The weather is against them. 
    Sounds like a tough, frustrating job.  I hope they think to block entrance to that cave off after this is all over.
    I hope they block the cave off as well when all have been rescued.
    Why did the coach and the boys decide to go into the cave during the rainy season, despite posted warning signs?
    What i've read: It wasn't raining when they entered. The season for not entering the cave is starting in July with the rainy season - which I guess will be pushed to earlier now. They went in, in june. It's a popular cave where the coach had been many times before.

    Seems a bit unsafe if the cave becomes a deathtrap if you're in there with it starting to rain. Or what caused it to fill up so fast, or them not being able to get out before it filled up.
    Maybe just me, but if I saw a sign that said don’t eneter July 1 or rains will trap and kill you, I probably wouldn’t go in during late June either.
  • stuckinline
    stuckinline Posts: 3,407
    mace1229 said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    Could be a naive question but I wonder if they could have just pumped the water out of the cave in the first place?
    They have pumped out a lot of water, which has made it easier. 

    When they turned of the pumps for 12 minutes, the water rose 10cm I think.

    The weather is against them. 
    Sounds like a tough, frustrating job.  I hope they think to block entrance to that cave off after this is all over.
    I hope they block the cave off as well when all have been rescued.
    Why did the coach and the boys decide to go into the cave during the rainy season, despite posted warning signs?
    What i've read: It wasn't raining when they entered. The season for not entering the cave is starting in July with the rainy season - which I guess will be pushed to earlier now. They went in, in june. It's a popular cave where the coach had been many times before.

    Seems a bit unsafe if the cave becomes a deathtrap if you're in there with it starting to rain. Or what caused it to fill up so fast, or them not being able to get out before it filled up.
    Maybe just me, but if I saw a sign that said don’t eneter July 1 or rains will trap and kill you, I probably wouldn’t go in during late June either.
    Exactly
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,561
    edited July 2018
    mace1229 said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    Could be a naive question but I wonder if they could have just pumped the water out of the cave in the first place?
    They have pumped out a lot of water, which has made it easier. 

    When they turned of the pumps for 12 minutes, the water rose 10cm I think.

    The weather is against them. 
    Sounds like a tough, frustrating job.  I hope they think to block entrance to that cave off after this is all over.
    I hope they block the cave off as well when all have been rescued.
    Why did the coach and the boys decide to go into the cave during the rainy season, despite posted warning signs?
    What i've read: It wasn't raining when they entered. The season for not entering the cave is starting in July with the rainy season - which I guess will be pushed to earlier now. They went in, in june. It's a popular cave where the coach had been many times before.

    Seems a bit unsafe if the cave becomes a deathtrap if you're in there with it starting to rain. Or what caused it to fill up so fast, or them not being able to get out before it filled up.
    Maybe just me, but if I saw a sign that said don’t eneter July 1 or rains will trap and kill you, I probably wouldn’t go in during late June either.
    Good for you.

    Some boys did. 

    And hopefully they all get out. And get to see the FIFA World Cup final.

    This gives me so much anxiety. I hope they all get out without problems.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    mace1229 said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    Could be a naive question but I wonder if they could have just pumped the water out of the cave in the first place?
    They have pumped out a lot of water, which has made it easier. 

    When they turned of the pumps for 12 minutes, the water rose 10cm I think.

    The weather is against them. 
    Sounds like a tough, frustrating job.  I hope they think to block entrance to that cave off after this is all over.
    I hope they block the cave off as well when all have been rescued.
    Why did the coach and the boys decide to go into the cave during the rainy season, despite posted warning signs?
    What i've read: It wasn't raining when they entered. The season for not entering the cave is starting in July with the rainy season - which I guess will be pushed to earlier now. They went in, in june. It's a popular cave where the coach had been many times before.

    Seems a bit unsafe if the cave becomes a deathtrap if you're in there with it starting to rain. Or what caused it to fill up so fast, or them not being able to get out before it filled up.
    Maybe just me, but if I saw a sign that said don’t eneter July 1 or rains will trap and kill you, I probably wouldn’t go in during late June either.
    Yeah, he should spend some serious time behind bars for entering the cave just before it's not recommended.

    I want to see justice!
  • dignin said:
    mace1229 said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    Could be a naive question but I wonder if they could have just pumped the water out of the cave in the first place?
    They have pumped out a lot of water, which has made it easier. 

    When they turned of the pumps for 12 minutes, the water rose 10cm I think.

    The weather is against them. 
    Sounds like a tough, frustrating job.  I hope they think to block entrance to that cave off after this is all over.
    I hope they block the cave off as well when all have been rescued.
    Why did the coach and the boys decide to go into the cave during the rainy season, despite posted warning signs?
    What i've read: It wasn't raining when they entered. The season for not entering the cave is starting in July with the rainy season - which I guess will be pushed to earlier now. They went in, in june. It's a popular cave where the coach had been many times before.

    Seems a bit unsafe if the cave becomes a deathtrap if you're in there with it starting to rain. Or what caused it to fill up so fast, or them not being able to get out before it filled up.
    Maybe just me, but if I saw a sign that said don’t eneter July 1 or rains will trap and kill you, I probably wouldn’t go in during late June either.
    Yeah, he should spend some serious time behind bars for entering the cave just before it's not recommended.

    I want to see justice!

    Please tell me you are being sarcastic?
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    dignin said:
    mace1229 said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    Could be a naive question but I wonder if they could have just pumped the water out of the cave in the first place?
    They have pumped out a lot of water, which has made it easier. 

    When they turned of the pumps for 12 minutes, the water rose 10cm I think.

    The weather is against them. 
    Sounds like a tough, frustrating job.  I hope they think to block entrance to that cave off after this is all over.
    I hope they block the cave off as well when all have been rescued.
    Why did the coach and the boys decide to go into the cave during the rainy season, despite posted warning signs?
    What i've read: It wasn't raining when they entered. The season for not entering the cave is starting in July with the rainy season - which I guess will be pushed to earlier now. They went in, in june. It's a popular cave where the coach had been many times before.

    Seems a bit unsafe if the cave becomes a deathtrap if you're in there with it starting to rain. Or what caused it to fill up so fast, or them not being able to get out before it filled up.
    Maybe just me, but if I saw a sign that said don’t eneter July 1 or rains will trap and kill you, I probably wouldn’t go in during late June either.
    Yeah, he should spend some serious time behind bars for entering the cave just before it's not recommended.

    I want to see justice!

    Please tell me you are being sarcastic?
    ;)
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,783
    yeah let's just convict the adult even though he's kept the kids alive for over two weeks ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,561
    "Elon Musk has shown up with his mini-submarine and left it at the site, but the rescue chief has said it’s not of any use."
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    "Elon Musk has shown up with his mini-submarine and left it at the site, but the rescue chief has said it’s not of any use."
    LOL
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,561
    ALL RESCUED
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"