THERE IS NO LIST/NUMBER SYSTEM FOR 10C GA LINES

lastexitlondon

Hhahaha

BlueLedbetter

if he was a Lazio or Roma ultra security might have know him and didn't want the hassle, not saying I agree with that (I don't)just that it may be why they didn't do anything

BLACK35

BlueLedbetter said:

if he was a Lazio or Roma ultra security might have know him and didn't want the hassle, not saying I agree with that (I don't)just that it may be why they didn't do anything

Are you saying that Lazio or Roma are Mob Guys? Atleast that's the way I take your comment

lastexitlondon

There are ultras in Italy and they are nasty. And they terrorize  cities they go to 

CB254133

BLACK35 said:

BlueLedbetter said:

if he was a Lazio or Roma ultra security might have know him and didn't want the hassle, not saying I agree with that (I don't)just that it may be why they didn't do anything

Are you saying that Lazio or Roma are Mob Guys? Atleast that's the way I take your comment

I think BLB is talking about the ultra football (soccer for our American cousins) hooligans, well known at away games across Europe.

BlueLedbetter

CB254133 said:

BLACK35 said:

BlueLedbetter said:

if he was a Lazio or Roma ultra security might have know him and didn't want the hassle, not saying I agree with that (I don't)just that it may be why they didn't do anything

Are you saying that Lazio or Roma are Mob Guys? Atleast that's the way I take your comment

I think BLB is talking about the ultra football (soccer for our American cousins) hooligans, well known at away games across Europe.

yes football (soccer) hooligans but they are organised and well known, Lazio and Roma both play at that stadium and security tend to let them police their own areas

lastexitlondon

I was once in Amsterdam and out of central staition  about 200 ultra s came and took over everything.  We all just got the fuck out.  Really hard core  hooligans 

BLACK35

Ok gotcha now guys, I'm familiar with hooligans

nycrats

mcgruff10 said:

wall232 said:

I'm fine with bringing back reserved seating only if it was random, not just a few rows.

I know this won't go over well with the members who have low numbers but it would be the fairest way, IMO.

i have a low number and would be 100% fine with this.

conversely i have a medium to high number and am still for the reserved floor.  keep the 1,2,9,10 lottos for "hope" 
i enjoyed myself more in fenway from farther away in 16 than i did in that (packed) pit in wrigley.  people get way too territorial in ga, it can give off a wierd vibe at times.

rdalhuisen

So we're gonna change a whole system because of 5 idiots? It's only a small group creating this BS. From now on, if they try their list again photograph them. Then report to security / TC.

texasistheSTEVEN

Im sorry but why would an ultra organise a pearl jam line to get in early for a gig.....i highly highly doubt this

CB254133

rdalhuisen said:

So we're gonna change a whole system because of 5 idiots? It's only a small group creating this BS. From now on, if they try their list again photograph them. Then report to security / TC.

Sounds like a sensible approach, I'm in!!  Going to Berlin and rescheduled O2

lastexitlondon

There are such a minority and only in select counties  it's easy to stop

JOEJOEJOE

BlueLedbetter said:

CB254133 said:

BLACK35 said:

BlueLedbetter said:

if he was a Lazio or Roma ultra security might have know him and didn't want the hassle, not saying I agree with that (I don't)just that it may be why they didn't do anything

Are you saying that Lazio or Roma are Mob Guys? Atleast that's the way I take your comment

I think BLB is talking about the ultra football (soccer for our American cousins) hooligans, well known at away games across Europe.

yes football (soccer) hooligans but they are organised and well known, Lazio and Roma both play at that stadium and security tend to let them police their own areas

I am hoping to go to a match in Rome when we visit there in October.  My wife is Japanese; do the ultras hassle non-whites?

BlueLedbetter

JOEJOEJOE said:

BlueLedbetter said:

CB254133 said:

BLACK35 said:

BlueLedbetter said:

if he was a Lazio or Roma ultra security might have know him and didn't want the hassle, not saying I agree with that (I don't)just that it may be why they didn't do anything

Are you saying that Lazio or Roma are Mob Guys? Atleast that's the way I take your comment

I think BLB is talking about the ultra football (soccer for our American cousins) hooligans, well known at away games across Europe.

yes football (soccer) hooligans but they are organised and well known, Lazio and Roma both play at that stadium and security tend to let them police their own areas

I am hoping to go to a match in Rome when we visit there in October.  My wife is Japanese; do the ultras hassle non-whites?

ive never actually been to a match in rome but elsewhere they tend to target the opposition so id imagine you will be fine, especially if its not a big game, they will all be in one area behind the goal just make sure your in one of the other stands and I doubt you will have any bother

Music_5

riley540 said:

When I waited in line, people were fine with Pee and food breaks. Just make friends with everyone around you! 

Thank you for saying this, good to know.

cutz

rdalhuisen said:

Okay guys, can someone who was in the Rome line please email TC? Make an account what happened. They take it very seriously.

Apparently someone know who these people are, who did it again yesterday. Can you please drop me a pm? 

Good idea.

Don't you think that someone has video or a picture of these assholes? 

Chrisilein

My personal advice for those who want to be near the stage in Europe:

If it is not important for you to be in the first 5 rows IN FRONT of Ed then go and enjoy the city and come to the venue at 7 pm and you will have a beautiful spot on Mikes or Stones side very close to the stage. Or, like I do, you would like to dance and party..you will find enough space a few meters back center stage! There is no pushing just happy faces all around you who hug each other without knowing each other just because of the music and the magic PJ brings to us. 

If you want to be up front center stage..come very early in the morning.. You will for sure make friends with others and there will be no problem to take your bathroom time, get some food and drinks and get your tickets.

Eraserhead

Good to see TC finally clamping down on this. Like scapling and poster flipping, this should be frowned upon (and is). Hopefully with the power of social media, it should be easy to identify the few bad eggs that ruin it for everyone, and revoke their membership and tickets.

#PrisonSnitch

Bella

. Chrisilein said:

My personal advice for those who want to be near the stage in Europe:

If it is not important for you to be in the first 5 rows IN FRONT of Ed then go and enjoy the city and come to the venue at 7 pm and you will have a beautiful spot on Mikes or Stones side very close to the stage. Or, like I do, you would like to dance and party..you will find enough space a few meters back center stage! There is no pushing just happy faces all around you who hug each other without knowing each other just because of the music and the magic PJ brings to us. 

If you want to be up front center stage..come very early in the morning.. You will for sure make friends with others and there will be no problem to take your bathroom time, get some food and drinks and get your tickets.

100% correct. We joined the end of the line at early entry in Rome

NewJPage

Has anyone ever attempted to just grab and RIP up this list?

Bella

NewJPage said:

Has anyone ever attempted to just grab and RIP up this list?

NewJPage said:

Has anyone ever attempted to just grab and RIP up this list?

Padova was the worst for it. When we asked the people at the front who was the organiser, surprisingly they couldn’t understand English.

Bella

Here’s what witnessed at Padova and Rome. 
We picked up our 10c tickets at 2pm, no line so that was great. We went round to early entry knowing that we would be joining a line. When we got to it there was about 100 in the line sitting down. We joined it but was told “you need to put your name on a list”.
We went to the front and a guy was standing handing a clipboard to people to put their names down. We looked at it and it was at 460! We asked where are all these people? He said they were here 2 hours ago and at 4 o’clock he would start calling out the names for people to join the line.
What a load of rubbish! So these people turned up, put there name down and then headed off for food or drinks knowing they had a place!
In Rome we arrived after picking our tickets up and the line was about 100 people again. This time we heard that it was only the first 100 that had their names taken. Again no one could answer who was organising it.
The sad thing about all this is that it always seems to be the same crowd on the rail.
Eddie always comments how great it is to see the same faces but there’s a reason why. In Rome when the camera was on the rail we could see the same faces that were on the rail in Padova. Now that’s no coincidence.
I want to enjoy the experience of following the band but the blood boils when you see The protectiveness of these people who are hell bent on getting their place on the rail.

DW168074

Maybe I can explain some of the questions asked here.
I was in Rome in the line and without number. The night before, the just released TC mail was discussed the people who slept in the tents before. They decided to use the numbers for the night and make role calls all three hours (everyone has to show up or he was out). From 5 in the morning the queing should start and the number system not valid anymore. That sounded pretty fair to me as I don`t expect anyone to queue up in the night before  5 am. Then I went home. 
When we arrived in the morning (round about 9 am), two guys with the list showed up and asked if we want to add our names. After I asked why we still use this numbering system they said that we don`t have to use the numbers and should just keep the guys before and behind us in mind, no problem.
I saw over the day that more and more people started writing numbers on their hands but no list, no number calls were done. I heard that also someone from TenClub was around having a look at the situation.
Problems appeared when the row was shifted more towards the entrance. Round about 3 pm the bold tatood guy showed up and started "organizing" the queue by numbers. Few people were expelled as they did not have numbers (I haven`t seen that but some poeple told me). When it was our turn, I started discussing with him. He explained me that he read the TC email carefully and that I understood it wrong.
TC was saying that they do not have system for queues and that they cannot give recommendations how queing should be done. TC would on the other hand appreciate it if this is organized by the fans and that they use the numbers to make everything easier. We did a mistake that we were not using the number system so we had to go to the end of the queue. After I told him that the TC mails are clearly not allowing the numbering system and that it is forbidden, he called me a liar and asked if I think that all the other people that used it are stupid. We discussed for several minutes but I said that I (or my friends) would definetly not leave the line. It was also good that three (I was surprised that the rest did not say anything) people confirmed that we were waiting in the queue right in the position were we stood. After like ten minutes I just turned around and did not speak with him any more and somewhen he gave up.
Security did not care and said nothing. I saw them high fiving and chatting the guys during the time we queued up and it looks like they were friends anyway.
Also, when they started this numbering thing again they "found out" that there was a mistake in the list and 20 people were missing and had to come to the front of the queue. I was told that these were there friends but cannort confirm it as I haven`t looked at the people entering.
All these guys who did the numbering system were 1st line during the shows (Padova and Rome). Also haven`t seen them waiting the whole time waiting before the stadions like we did for both days (I was told many were in their cars waiting, sleeping....).
The trick how they organize it is to be aggressive and they especially like to switch to italian so that 90% of the waiting people cannot follow what they say.
I heard that some of the people spoke with each other round about noon that they`ll go home now and show up again when the queue starts (as it was written already several times before).

lastexitlondon

There is a guy who does this and sleeps in his car . Did it in Vienna and I had a verbal fight  with him . I know who he is. Don t know his name on here.  But I know who he is

F Me In The Brain

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Bella

It’s more prevalent in Europe. They use the language barrier.

lastexitlondon

Do I name this guy? I'm not sure. But he is a the same guy as in London removed from the queue by security. 

F Me In The Brain

I am sorry that you all have to deal with this.  Making other people have less fun so that you can be selfish is just wrong. 

Sure this guy will get his at some point.  You don't make a habit of stepping all over people and avoid running into someone who is going to take you to task for it, eventually.  (At least here that would be the case.)

lastexitlondon

I just checked he is on here. So if the 10c mods want to message me. I would like to do something  about this the right way. Thanks