2018 Euro Merch

janvanderdam1975

it's not Tsang, it's Paul Jackson.

This is the mail I received:


Hello there! - thank you very much for your order of the Pearl Jam Amsterdam print.

Due to overwhelming demand for this limited edition release, the store crashed and accepted payment for some buyers that shouldn't have been possible.

To resolve this issue I have to limit orders to only being 1 print per customer. This has never happened before, and is extremely annoying and was difficult to resolve in such a short sell out time. As an artist and collector myself, I take measures to avoid this happening in the first place and I have a team of people working on it for future releases as we speak.  

EM194007

janvanderdam1975 said:

it's not Tsang, it's Paul Jackson.

This is the mail I received:


Hello there! - thank you very much for your order of the Pearl Jam Amsterdam print.

Due to overwhelming demand for this limited edition release, the store crashed and accepted payment for some buyers that shouldn't have been possible.

To resolve this issue I have to limit orders to only being 1 print per customer. This has never happened before, and is extremely annoying and was difficult to resolve in such a short sell out time. As an artist and collector myself, I take measures to avoid this happening in the first place and I have a team of people working on it for future releases as we speak.  

Thanks! And I was referring to both Paul and Miles in that post towards the end. I still stand that he should honor his word. Doesn't your word mean something anymore? He should have listened to people who tried to get him change it before the sale. If he goes back on his word, by only limiting 1 per order well after the sale is over. That isn't fair either, is it? There is no fair way to resolve this situation now. He decided to keep the two per order, he should keep his word. It sucks for the ones who wanted one, and tried and didn't get one, but the rules before the sale was 2 per order. You don't make new rules up after the sale.

Like I said before, I have no dog in the fight. 

lastexitlondon

It's all getting ridiculous.  

EM194007

lastexitlondon said:

It's all getting ridiculous.  

Yep! That's why I only collect prints from a show I attended now. This has gotten way out of hand.

janvanderdam1975

I know. He should have done 1 in the first place. 

Missed the poster at the show. So I ordered 2, 1 for me and 1 for my friend. Got the mail I will only receive 1. 

PJNB

Odd artists are against flippers, know there poster will sell out fast due to the overwhelming demand before it is available, and still allow 2 plus prints in the cart to be sold. 

Popmartijn

EM194007 said:
If he goes back on his word, by only limiting 1 per order well after the sale is over. That isn't fair either, is it? There is no fair way to resolve this situation now. 

As you say, there's likely no fair way to resolve it, so why keep on discussing it if you haven't participated in the sale? The only reason he's now limiting it to 1 per order is because his store crashed and the print was oversold by 20+%. If it can't be determined exactly what the order is that people ordered the print (which is quite probable) then this looks like a next-best solution to me.

lastexitlondon

PJNB said:

Odd artists are against flippers, know there poster will sell out fast due to the overwhelming demand before it is available, and still allow 2 plus prints in the cart to be sold. 

Agree

EM194007

Popmartijn said:

EM194007 said:
If he goes back on his word, by only limiting 1 per order well after the sale is over. That isn't fair either, is it? There is no fair way to resolve this situation now. 

As you say, there's likely no fair way to resolve it, so why keep on discussing it if you haven't participated in the sale? The only reason he's now limiting it to 1 per order is because his store crashed and the print was oversold by 20+%. If it can't be determined exactly what the order is that people ordered the print (which is quite probable) then this looks like a next-best solution to me.

When did it become unfair to discuss something, and when did we lose our freedom to do so?

MayDay10

People shouldn't be needing 2 posters

buck502000

I’m happy these artists are getting paid!!!!

on2legs

MayDay10 said:

People shouldn't be needing 2 posters

Yup 

Weston1283

Artists should just start charging $250 per artist proof.  Rather them get the money than the flippers.  People would complain about them being "greedy" but it would cut down on secondary market.

Sarava

Weston1283 said:

Artists should just start charging $250 per artist proof.  Rather them get the money than the flippers.  People would complain about them being "greedy" but it would cut down on secondary market.

They would have a lot of unsold artist proofs then. Not a good idea.

kce8

Weston1283 said:

Artists should just start charging $250 per artist proof.  Rather them get the money than the flippers.  People would complain about them being "greedy" but it would cut down on secondary market.

You are not serious, right!? 

Weston1283

Start them at 200-250... if they don't sell, drop it by 50 and let it sit for a week or two and drop it another 50 and so on.  Flipping is never going to end.  Theres only so much an artist can do to cut down on it.  Its not fair of us to expect them to have a perfect sale system where not a single print is flipped.  

on2legs

Sarava said:

Weston1283 said:

Artists should just start charging $250 per artist proof.  Rather them get the money than the flippers.  People would complain about them being "greedy" but it would cut down on secondary market.

They would have a lot of unsold artist proofs then. Not a good idea.

Agreed.  People pay $ 250 on the secondary market because they watched the original run sell out and couldn’t get one. Making the cost $250 from the start would make it tougher to sell out during the artist sale. 

Weston1283

on2legs said:

Sarava said:

Weston1283 said:

Artists should just start charging $250 per artist proof.  Rather them get the money than the flippers.  People would complain about them being "greedy" but it would cut down on secondary market.

They would have a lot of unsold artist proofs then. Not a good idea.

Agreed.  People pay $ 250 on the secondary market because they watched the original run sell out and couldn’t get one. Making the cost $250 from the start would make it tougher to sell out during the artist sale. 

Flippers flip to make a profit.  End the profits, end the flipping.  

crookedcross

Weston1283 said:

Artists should just start charging $250 per artist proof.  Rather them get the money than the flippers.  People would complain about them being "greedy" but it would cut down on secondary market.

No way.  I enjoy my <$100 APs

cp3iverson

Weston1283 said:

Artists should just start charging $250 per artist proof.  Rather them get the money than the flippers.  People would complain about them being "greedy" but it would cut down on secondary market.

Not a fan   

The solution to me is to keep APs at 100 count but sell more show editions on 10club.  Artists cant take the chance of losing their own sales. And 1 poster per person is a good enough rule. 

Weston1283

Another idea I thought would work.  Lotteries with a non-refundable entry fee to avoid someone using 50 email addresses to get the number right.

Charge $10 to enter the lottery for a poster.  Give the lottery proceeds to charity.  Another way to cut out a flippers profit margin.

tempo_n_groove

Weston1283 said:

Another idea I thought would work.  Lotteries with a non-refundable entry fee to avoid someone using 50 email addresses to get the number right.

Charge $10 to enter the lottery for a poster.  Give the lottery proceeds to charity.  Another way to cut out a flippers profit margin.

Another horrible idea...  You want me to pay for a chance to buy the AP?  Ummm, no.

Do what Emek does and ask questions or a real lottery.  He only releases half of his AP's though and archives the rest to resell later...

on2legs

Weston1283 said:

on2legs said:

Sarava said:

Weston1283 said:

Artists should just start charging $250 per artist proof.  Rather them get the money than the flippers.  People would complain about them being "greedy" but it would cut down on secondary market.

They would have a lot of unsold artist proofs then. Not a good idea.

Agreed.  People pay $ 250 on the secondary market because they watched the original run sell out and couldn’t get one. Making the cost $250 from the start would make it tougher to sell out during the artist sale. 

Flippers flip to make a profit.  End the profits, end the flipping.  

 I agree somewhat with you. But there is a supply and demand to flipping and these posters are a status symbol to people.  If there’s no initial demand for them because the price is too high from the artist then they sit on the site.  And people don’t tend to want an item everyone can have.  They want the status of the sold out item in their collection.  Otherwise fallasheep would be worth big money. 

Garasauras

Lottery is a good idea for posters, but proof of ticket stub would be cool too for those who were at the shows.

But if they keep releasing undesirable merch that no one likes, then the flippers will have no market.
I’m sorry but those four eyed Williams designs are awful!!!

drakeheuer14

Garasauras said:

Lottery is a good idea for posters, but proof of ticket stub would be cool too for those who were at the shows.

But if they keep releasing undesirable merch that no one likes, then the flippers will have no market.
I’m sorry but those four eyed Williams designs are awful!!!

Proof of ticket stubs for the AP’s? Why should they be more entitled to one if it isn’t a SE? Same with the random drops after the shows, no one should be entitled to them. 

Keep the AP’s below $100 please and thank you. It’s already expensive enough to collect. 

The Jackson situation is messed up. His logic for 2 per person was to “allow more people to buy them.” How 1 per wouldn’t do that I dont know. But now he backs off on his own policy and just cancels the people with doubles, not fair imo. I didn’t try, so I don’t care too much, but bad practice. 

RP112579

The artists should raffle off the AP's on Facebook

tempo_n_groove

RP112579 said:

The artists should raffle off the AP's on Facebook

That's funny!

cp3iverson

Have 10c produce more show editions.  APs will always be limited by nature and they should be. 

100 Pacer

cp3iverson said:

Have 10c produce more show editions.  APs will always be limited by nature and they should be. 

It's one single run - not a separate run for each edition.

X amount of posters are simply pulled and shipped to the artist so they can be signed and numbered.

PJNB

I have a friend that is confused about how the merch is sold for London before the show. The message said inside at 2:00pm. I take it there is a spot before security that they use? I told him it will be easy to find but just curious if there was any more info someone could share.