this person did what I did but to way higher levels ...
edit: key paragraph
That was the transcript of only the beginning (6) minutes of Janice
Kortkamp’s extraordinary 1-hour, 25-minute Boston, Massachusetts
presentation delivered in November 2017. What Ms. Kortkamp further
points out until concluding her presentation, including her successfully
shattering the many myths about Syria, will deeply shake the moral
foundations of any decent man or woman in America.
You might get an idea of how fair the elections are by the numbers.
2000- Assad 99.7% of vote 2007- Assad 97.62% of vote 2014- Assad 88.7% of vote
Those are some North Korean type numbers.
only in 2014 was their multi-party elections ...
So you think 89% of the vote is realistic?
absolutely ... I would say that IF Syria were not engaged in a way against terrorists at the time - that number may be less ... similar to how Bush's and Guiliani's numbers spiked during 9/11 ... but when you see the war as western intervention - people are gonna rally behind their leader ...
The difference between 2002 and 2018 is that no one then was claiming Saddam Hussein was a beloved figure in Iraq who drove his own car around Baghdad. We all knew what he was, even if we disagreed about what should or shouldn't be done militarily. I was against invading Iraq then and I'm against attacking Syria now. Not wanting to bomb Syria isn't what makes someone an apologist for Assad.
That pretty much sums it up for me...
Nobody had seen me advocate for missile strikes... not really sure what should be done... but I tend to be strongly against military action
My issue is the painting of Assad as some kind of righteous leader who had done nothing wrong over the past 7 years... same with Putin, The Peacemaker ... totally ridiculous
The question then is: What if the narrative you've believed all along on Assad was false? Why would a secular leader of a country where people who hate each other elsewhere live in harmony want to live in a place where a brutal dictator operates? The villification of Assad simply does not add up - how does a guy go from wanting to be an eye doctor studying in London to going home and wanting to oppress all his people!??
You just have to honeslty ask yourselves that question ... because there is plenty of evidence to disprove that narrative ... but it appears you guys just don't want to hear it ... not sure why ...
You might get an idea of how fair the elections are by the numbers.
2000- Assad 99.7% of vote 2007- Assad 97.62% of vote 2014- Assad 88.7% of vote
Those are some North Korean type numbers.
only in 2014 was their multi-party elections ...
So you think 89% of the vote is realistic?
absolutely ... I would say that IF Syria were not engaged in a way against terrorists at the time - that number may be less ... similar to how Bush's and Guiliani's numbers spiked during 9/11 ... but when you see the war as western intervention - people are gonna rally behind their leader ...
I could run a turnip in pretty much any legitimate election and it would probably get at least 11%.
Fuck, even that orange turd in the states almost got 50%.
Sorry polaris, you are in way too deep if you can believe those results are in any way legitimate.
The difference between 2002 and 2018 is that no one then was claiming Saddam Hussein was a beloved figure in Iraq who drove his own car around Baghdad. We all knew what he was, even if we disagreed about what should or shouldn't be done militarily. I was against invading Iraq then and I'm against attacking Syria now. Not wanting to bomb Syria isn't what makes someone an apologist for Assad.
That pretty much sums it up for me...
Nobody had seen me advocate for missile strikes... not really sure what should be done... but I tend to be strongly against military action
My issue is the painting of Assad as some kind of righteous leader who had done nothing wrong over the past 7 years... same with Putin, The Peacemaker ... totally ridiculous
The question then is: What if the narrative you've believed all along on Assad was false? Why would a secular leader of a country where people who hate each other elsewhere live in harmony want to live in a place where a brutal dictator operates? The villification of Assad simply does not add up - how does a guy go from wanting to be an eye doctor studying in London to going home and wanting to oppress all his people!??
You just have to honeslty ask yourselves that question ... because there is plenty of evidence to disprove that narrative ... but it appears you guys just don't want to hear it ... not sure why ...
You might get an idea of how fair the elections are by the numbers.
2000- Assad 99.7% of vote 2007- Assad 97.62% of vote 2014- Assad 88.7% of vote
Those are some North Korean type numbers.
only in 2014 was their multi-party elections ...
So you think 89% of the vote is realistic?
You clearly don’t understand the internal politics of Syria and the region. Have you educated yourself on “Hamas Rules?” In a nutshell, there’s this silly little thing called “fear,” particularly if you’re not of the same family, sect, clan, religion or any other qualifying trait or characteristic.
The difference between 2002 and 2018 is that no one then was claiming Saddam Hussein was a beloved figure in Iraq who drove his own car around Baghdad. We all knew what he was, even if we disagreed about what should or shouldn't be done militarily. I was against invading Iraq then and I'm against attacking Syria now. Not wanting to bomb Syria isn't what makes someone an apologist for Assad.
That pretty much sums it up for me...
Nobody had seen me advocate for missile strikes... not really sure what should be done... but I tend to be strongly against military action
My issue is the painting of Assad as some kind of righteous leader who had done nothing wrong over the past 7 years... same with Putin, The Peacemaker ... totally ridiculous
The question then is: What if the narrative you've believed all along on Assad was false?
1st question: what if your narrative is false and you're supporting two brutal regimes?
2nd question: did you take a nap through The Arab Spring?
Can you reasonably explain why the OPCW inspectors are still being blocked by Assad and Putin? Anyone want to defend the actions of the nice guy ophthalmologist?
Assad has been in power since 2000 please tell us how that is a fair way to run a country he’s had plenty of time to bring peace to his people , he’s not a good guy ...
The above link from global research Which is a pro-russia website from the Centre for Research on Globalization, which publishes conspiracy theories. Their founder Michael Chossudovsky has written that the 9/11 attacks were not committed by Islamic terrorists, and that the attacks were a pretext for war in the Middle East.
Assad has been in power since 2000 please tell us how that is a fair way to run a country he’s had plenty of time to bring peace to his people , he’s not a good guy ...
what makes you say there was no peace in syria!??? ... the dude was given a special medal in France ... like honestly, what fictional representation of Syria do you guys have!?? ... if there's an oppressive state in the middle east - it's fucking saudi arabia ... don't see no witch hunt there despite their genocide in yemen funded by western nations ...
syria was a secular country ... damascus is one of the oldest settlements in the history of the world ... women wear what they want .. jews, christians and muslims live together ... free education and healthcare ... yet, people continue to believe something that is not grounded in any reality ...
if this truly was a civil war ... name me the opposition leader!?? ... good luck with that ...
if Assad were truly fighting moderate rebels from Syria - don't you think they would kind of get together and not only co-ordinate but form a political opposition to represent them in the international stage? ... yet, there are all these factions everywhere .... factions many of you refuse to see for who they really are ... islamist extremists bent on turning syria into a fundamentalist islamist state under sharia law ...
Assad has been in power since 2000 please tell us how that is a fair way to run a country he’s had plenty of time to bring peace to his people , he’s not a good guy ...
How many of your congress people and senate people have been in power much longer...
at least 20 other news agencies in douma ... interviewing the same people this guy did ... yet, no reports and the OPCW can't get in because the australian led UN "security" team deems it unsafe ... reuters was there ... but I guess they didn't get what they wanted and left ...
Assad has been in power since 2000 please tell us how that is a fair way to run a country he’s had plenty of time to bring peace to his people , he’s not a good guy ...
How many of your congress people and senate people have been in power much longer...
You can’t compare the two. False equivalency. Unbelievable how far down the worm hole you people have fallen.
this look like a guy who's hated by his people and gasses his own people? ... you think that if your leader was known to oppress and launch chemical weapons against civilians - he'd drive his own car around?
if you had a kid who was killed by a sarin attack - and you knew it was ordered by Assad - wouldn't you try and kill him!?? ...
Assad has been in power since 2000 please tell us how that is a fair way to run a country he’s had plenty of time to bring peace to his people , he’s not a good guy ...
what makes you say there was no peace in syria!??? ... the dude was given a special medal in France ... like honestly, what fictional representation of Syria do you guys have!?? ... if there's an oppressive state in the middle east - it's fucking saudi arabia ... don't see no witch hunt there despite their genocide in yemen funded by western nations ...
syria was a secular country ... damascus is one of the oldest settlements in the history of the world ... women wear what they want .. jews, christians and muslims live together ... free education and healthcare ... yet, people continue to believe something that is not grounded in any reality ...
also Syria has a constitution ... it was redrafted under Assad in 2012 ... with the main change that the country now was ruled through democratic elections with a plurality of voices ... he also set term limits of 2 x 7 year terms ...
of course this means not a whole lot to some of you because it doesn't mesh with your "Assad is an evil bastard" line ...
Assad has been in power since 2000 please tell us how that is a fair way to run a country he’s had plenty of time to bring peace to his people , he’s not a good guy ...
How many of your congress people and senate people have been in power much longer...
You can’t compare the two. False equivalency. Unbelievable how far down the worm hole you people have fallen.
this look like a guy who's hated by his people and gasses his own people? ... you think that if your leader was known to oppress and launch chemical weapons against civilians - he'd drive his own car around?
if you had a kid who was killed by a sarin attack - and you knew it was ordered by Assad - wouldn't you try and kill him!?? ...
But doesn't the opposite hold true as well? If the West was actively plotting to remove Assad's regime from power would he drive his own car around? If there were Islamist rebels trying to takeover the country would he drive his own car around? I don't think he would. So I do question what I'm seeing in this video.
Assad has been in power since 2000 please tell us how that is a fair way to run a country he’s had plenty of time to bring peace to his people , he’s not a good guy ...
what makes you say there was no peace in syria!??? ... the dude was given a special medal in France ... like honestly, what fictional representation of Syria do you guys have!?? ... if there's an oppressive state in the middle east - it's fucking saudi arabia ... don't see no witch hunt there despite their genocide in yemen funded by western nations ...
syria was a secular country ... damascus is one of the oldest settlements in the history of the world ... women wear what they want .. jews, christians and muslims live together ... free education and healthcare ... yet, people continue to believe something that is not grounded in any reality ...
Seeing how you refuse to understand some of the history of Syri’s past to gain insight into its present, I’ll post some links that you really should read. Stop watching YouTube videos and reading blogs of paid propagandaists. Do some research. Try to be objective. Try. I dare you.
Assad has been in power since 2000 please tell us how that is a fair way to run a country he’s had plenty of time to bring peace to his people , he’s not a good guy ...
How many of your congress people and senate people have been in power much longer...
You can’t compare the two. False equivalency. Unbelievable how far down the worm hole you people have fallen.
more of the same BS ... worm hole ... sad ...
Comparing members of Congress, one set elected every two years and the other every six, since the founding of the republic, with an unelected dictator who rules by brutal oppression and fear and calling them the same, or trying to, is not “same BS,” it’s falling really far down the worm hole. Even further if you defend the analogy.
this look like a guy who's hated by his people and gasses his own people? ... you think that if your leader was known to oppress and launch chemical weapons against civilians - he'd drive his own car around?
if you had a kid who was killed by a sarin attack - and you knew it was ordered by Assad - wouldn't you try and kill him!?? ...
But doesn't the opposite hold true as well? If the West was actively plotting to remove Assad's regime from power would he drive his own car around? If there were Islamist rebels trying to takeover the country would he drive his own car around? I don't think he would. So I do question what I'm seeing in this video.
Unless he’s driving around Alewite areas in firm control by Assad’s government forces. YouTube proves it.
Assad has been in power since 2000 please tell us how that is a fair way to run a country he’s had plenty of time to bring peace to his people , he’s not a good guy ...
How many of your congress people and senate people have been in power much longer...
You can’t compare the two. False equivalency. Unbelievable how far down the worm hole you people have fallen.
more of the same BS ... worm hole ... sad ...
Comparing members of Congress, one set elected every two years and the other every six, since the founding of the republic, with an unelected dictator who rules by brutal oppression fair and calling them the same, or trying to, is not “same BS,” it’s falling really far down the worm hole. Even further if you defend the analogy.
except your wrong ... Assad was elected whether you like or not ... it's a fact ... you're the one going down the worm hole when you say he was not elected ... and when you talk about brutal oppression ... it's just not true ...
this look like a guy who's hated by his people and gasses his own people? ... you think that if your leader was known to oppress and launch chemical weapons against civilians - he'd drive his own car around?
if you had a kid who was killed by a sarin attack - and you knew it was ordered by Assad - wouldn't you try and kill him!?? ...
But doesn't the opposite hold true as well? If the West was actively plotting to remove Assad's regime from power would he drive his own car around? If there were Islamist rebels trying to takeover the country would he drive his own car around? I don't think he would. So I do question what I'm seeing in this video.
Unless he’s driving around Alewite areas in firm control by Assad’s government forces. YouTube proves it.
There is zero chance he was driving around by himself. I'm guessing many of the cars around him had his security team. Total photo op.
Can you reasonably explain why the OPCW inspectors are still being blocked by Assad and Putin? Anyone want to defend the actions of the nice guy ophthalmologist?
yes ... the decision to go in is based on the UNDSS ... they technically provide "security" ... western nations appointed ... it's being headed by an Australian right now ... this is clearly an attempt to derail the investigation ...
explain to me how Robert Fisk, Pearson Sharp and a plethora of journalists were in Douma but the OPCW can't get in!???
let's face it ... unlike Kheik Shaykoun ... there was actually no chemical attack to go along with the accusation ... that's why the narrative has changed to ... "Assad is still a dick even if he didn't gas his people" ...
it's pretty obvious now that there was no chemical attack in douma ... no deaths ...
Assad has been in power since 2000 please tell us how that is a fair way to run a country he’s had plenty of time to bring peace to his people , he’s not a good guy ...
How many of your congress people and senate people have been in power much longer...
You can’t compare the two. False equivalency. Unbelievable how far down the worm hole you people have fallen.
more of the same BS ... worm hole ... sad ...
Comparing members of Congress, one set elected every two years and the other every six, since the founding of the republic, with an unelected dictator who rules by brutal oppression fair and calling them the same, or trying to, is not “same BS,” it’s falling really far down the worm hole. Even further if you defend the analogy.
except your wrong ... Assad was elected whether you like or not ... it's a fact ... you're the one going down the worm hole when you say he was not elected ... and when you talk about brutal oppression ... it's just not true ...
How many elections were held, name the opposition candidate(s) and their vote totals.
You might get an idea of how fair the elections are by the numbers.
2000- Assad 99.7% of vote 2007- Assad 97.62% of vote 2014- Assad 88.7% of vote
Those are some North Korean type numbers.
only in 2014 was their multi-party elections ...
So you think 89% of the vote is realistic?
absolutely ... I would say that IF Syria were not engaged in a way against terrorists at the time - that number may be less ... similar to how Bush's and Guiliani's numbers spiked during 9/11 ... but when you see the war as western intervention - people are gonna rally behind their leader ...
I could run a turnip in pretty much any legitimate election and it would probably get at least 11%.
Fuck, even that orange turd in the states almost got 50%.
Sorry polaris, you are in way too deep if you can believe those results are in any way legitimate.
because what!? ... because the NY times or huffingtonpost told you they weren't legit? ... please ... let's face this reality - many of you guys have not done a lot of independent research on syria ... you're currently relying on google searches such as "assad is evil" ... give me something to post ...
You might get an idea of how fair the elections are by the numbers.
2000- Assad 99.7% of vote 2007- Assad 97.62% of vote 2014- Assad 88.7% of vote
Those are some North Korean type numbers.
only in 2014 was their multi-party elections ...
So you think 89% of the vote is realistic?
absolutely ... I would say that IF Syria were not engaged in a way against terrorists at the time - that number may be less ... similar to how Bush's and Guiliani's numbers spiked during 9/11 ... but when you see the war as western intervention - people are gonna rally behind their leader ...
I could run a turnip in pretty much any legitimate election and it would probably get at least 11%.
Fuck, even that orange turd in the states almost got 50%.
Sorry polaris, you are in way too deep if you can believe those results are in any way legitimate.
because what!? ... because the NY times or huffingtonpost told you they weren't legit? ... please ... let's face this reality - many of you guys have not done a lot of independent research on syria ... you're currently relying on google searches such as "assad is evil" ... give me something to post ...
i've read both sides for a long time now ...
I read about Hama when it happened. I don’t need to google “Assad is evil” to know he’s not the nice guy wishing he was still an ophthalmologist to know where the sunrises.
The difference between 2002 and 2018 is that no one then was claiming Saddam Hussein was a beloved figure in Iraq who drove his own car around Baghdad. We all knew what he was, even if we disagreed about what should or shouldn't be done militarily. I was against invading Iraq then and I'm against attacking Syria now. Not wanting to bomb Syria isn't what makes someone an apologist for Assad.
That pretty much sums it up for me...
Nobody had seen me advocate for missile strikes... not really sure what should be done... but I tend to be strongly against military action
My issue is the painting of Assad as some kind of righteous leader who had done nothing wrong over the past 7 years... same with Putin, The Peacemaker ... totally ridiculous
The question then is: What if the narrative you've believed all along on Assad was false? Why would a secular leader of a country where people who hate each other elsewhere live in harmony want to live in a place where a brutal dictator operates? The villification of Assad simply does not add up - how does a guy go from wanting to be an eye doctor studying in London to going home and wanting to oppress all his people!??
You just have to honeslty ask yourselves that question ... because there is plenty of evidence to disprove that narrative ... but it appears you guys just don't want to hear it ... not sure why ...
You might get an idea of how fair the elections are by the numbers.
2000- Assad 99.7% of vote 2007- Assad 97.62% of vote 2014- Assad 88.7% of vote
Those are some North Korean type numbers.
only in 2014 was their multi-party elections ...
So you think 89% of the vote is realistic?
You clearly don’t understand the internal politics of Syria and the region. Have you educated yourself on “Hamas Rules?” In a nutshell, there’s this silly little thing called “fear,” particularly if you’re not of the same family, sect, clan, religion or any other qualifying trait or characteristic.
haha ... talk about worm holes ...
lemme ask you this ... if this guy was the asshole you said ... why the heck bother with a constitution change!?? ... why bother with hosting the elections at all!?? ... Canadian and US representatives were there to witness the elections ...
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this person did what I did but to way higher levels ...
edit: key paragraph
That was the transcript of only the beginning (6) minutes of Janice Kortkamp’s extraordinary 1-hour, 25-minute Boston, Massachusetts presentation delivered in November 2017. What Ms. Kortkamp further points out until concluding her presentation, including her successfully shattering the many myths about Syria, will deeply shake the moral foundations of any decent man or woman in America.
You just have to honeslty ask yourselves that question ... because there is plenty of evidence to disprove that narrative ... but it appears you guys just don't want to hear it ... not sure why ...
Fuck, even that orange turd in the states almost got 50%.
Sorry polaris, you are in way too deep if you can believe those results are in any way legitimate.
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2nd question: did you take a nap through The Arab Spring?
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syria was a secular country ... damascus is one of the oldest settlements in the history of the world ... women wear what they want .. jews, christians and muslims live together ... free education and healthcare ... yet, people continue to believe something that is not grounded in any reality ...
if this truly was a civil war ... name me the opposition leader!?? ... good luck with that ...
if Assad were truly fighting moderate rebels from Syria - don't you think they would kind of get together and not only co-ordinate but form a political opposition to represent them in the international stage? ... yet, there are all these factions everywhere .... factions many of you refuse to see for who they really are ... islamist extremists bent on turning syria into a fundamentalist islamist state under sharia law ...
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if you had a kid who was killed by a sarin attack - and you knew it was ordered by Assad - wouldn't you try and kill him!?? ...
of course this means not a whole lot to some of you because it doesn't mesh with your "Assad is an evil bastard" line ...
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1982_Hama_massacre
https://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/21/opinion/foreign-affairs-hama-rules.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/03/opinion/the-new-hama-rules.html
http://www.newyorker.com/news/wendell-steavenson/assads-hama-rules-again
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explain to me how Robert Fisk, Pearson Sharp and a plethora of journalists were in Douma but the OPCW can't get in!???
let's face it ... unlike Kheik Shaykoun ... there was actually no chemical attack to go along with the accusation ... that's why the narrative has changed to ... "Assad is still a dick even if he didn't gas his people" ...
it's pretty obvious now that there was no chemical attack in douma ... no deaths ...
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i've read both sides for a long time now ...
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lemme ask you this ... if this guy was the asshole you said ... why the heck bother with a constitution change!?? ... why bother with hosting the elections at all!?? ... Canadian and US representatives were there to witness the elections ...