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  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWestPosts: 12,876
    edited August 9
    on2legs said:
    PJNB said:
    You guys telling me you would prefer a show that is 25-28 songs long over a Denver 2014, Quebec 2016, Fenway 2 2016, Wrigley 2 2016, Rome 2018, Seattle 2 2018? Just naming a couple of long ones of the top of my head and I realize ballpark shows are not for everyone but we are talking setlist length here. 
    I wouldn’t mind a shorter set list if it meant we got back to more varied and less predictable sets.   A long show once in awhile is a treat but I don’t need every show to be like a final farewell performance with a bunch of covers jammed in.  Old school Pearl Jam sets - fast and furious - is fine with me. 
    The thing for me is always that the covers are unnecessary. Their catalog is deep enough to fill out a long show without them. One or two is fine but some nights they pepper both encores. 
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  • Abe FromanAbe Froman Posts: 3,763
    I don't understand people actually wanting shorter setlist :confused:  
    I'll add that not only do I not mind them doing covers, I fucking love most of them.  I do agree they could do a little more mixing of the sets especially playing a lot of "the hits" every show but also understand thats what most people want.  We are the crazy weirdo fans on here that want to here all the deep cuts.  I think most casual fans would be pretty disappointed if 10+ songs were deeper cuts they didn't know.
  • disilluziondisilluzion Posts: 635
    I think that PJ and Bruce should keep going back and forth, trying to get the longest sets.
  • JojoRiceJojoRice Kennesaw, GAPosts: 1,534
    I'll take anything at this point!
    "I got memories, I got shit"

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  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWestPosts: 12,876
    I don't understand people actually wanting shorter setlist :confused:  
    I'll add that not only do I not mind them doing covers, I fucking love most of them.  I do agree they could do a little more mixing of the sets especially playing a lot of "the hits" every show but also understand thats what most people want.  We are the crazy weirdo fans on here that want to here all the deep cuts.  I think most casual fans would be pretty disappointed if 10+ songs were deeper cuts they didn't know.
    Agreed on all points, from not wanting shorter setlists to us being crazy weirdo fans.
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  • brewdog123brewdog123 ATLPosts: 325
    i just want a true atlanta show, non festival. only been since 2003.
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 20,113
    edited August 9
    With the exception of baba I would be ok without covers..  there are ten albums plus how many b sides to choose from?
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    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • JojoRiceJojoRice Kennesaw, GAPosts: 1,534
    i just want a true atlanta show, non festival. only been since 2003.
    Makes 2 of us!
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  • lmckenney24lmckenney24 Atlanta, GAPosts: 101
    Make that 3
  • 100 Pacer100 Pacer Toronto, ONPosts: 6,179
    CopperTom said:
    Long is not a synonym for good.
    That’s not what my wife says.
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

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  • drakeheuer14drakeheuer14 Posts: 2,629
    Make that 3
    4
    Pittsburgh 2013
    Cincinnati 2014
    Greenville 2016
    (Raleigh 2016)
    Columbia 2016
  • CopperTomCopperTom Posts: 2,060
    Make that 3
    4
    And make sure the Braves are home too.
  • darwinstheorydarwinstheory LaPorte, INPosts: 3,223
    100 Pacer said:
    CopperTom said:
    Long is not a synonym for good.
    That’s not what my wife says.

    Fuck! I'm going to go ahead and leave this one alone. Maybe @dankind would like to chime in here? 🤣
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  • SandyRavageSandyRavage Posts: 533
    play UNDONE pussies!!!!!
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWestPosts: 12,876
    play UNDONE pussies!!!!!
    Boston 2010 was the last time this gem was played. Going on a decade since then.
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  • jeffbrjeffbr SeattlePosts: 6,674
    I've been calling BS on all those who said they'd skip any ballpark shows. They are so full of it. This does not apply to those that have to REALLY travel for said ballpark shows. Of course we would all love arenas, but....

    I live in Seattle. I skipped the 2 in Seattle last year. I won't pay to see anyone, even Pearl Jam, play a ballpark or stadium. I've seen PJ in arenas, amphitheaters, a symphony hall (Benaroya), and a couple of times at The Showbox, so maybe I'm spoiled. Zero interest in ballparks.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • PJNBPJNB New BrunswickPosts: 5,051
    jeffbr said:
    I've been calling BS on all those who said they'd skip any ballpark shows. They are so full of it. This does not apply to those that have to REALLY travel for said ballpark shows. Of course we would all love arenas, but....

    I live in Seattle. I skipped the 2 in Seattle last year. I won't pay to see anyone, even Pearl Jam, play a ballpark or stadium. I've seen PJ in arenas, amphitheaters, a symphony hall (Benaroya), and a couple of times at The Showbox, so maybe I'm spoiled. Zero interest in ballparks.
    You missed a hell of a show then. Too bad the venue stopped you from going. 
    PJ
    2013 Worcester 1 & 2
    2016 Quebec, Toronto 2, Fenway 1&2, Wrigley 2
    2018 Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Seattle 2, Wrigley 2, Fenway 1&2 

    EV
    2017 Firenze, Taormina 1 & 2
  • pearljammr78pearljammr78 Posts: 831
    Yea. I’m not a fan at all of ballparks but I traveled from California for Seattle 2 last year and it was an epic show. But I was about 10 rows or so back on the floor. Plus Seattle is awesome so any excuse to go I will. Plus got to see the MoPop PJ exhibit after the show and that was awesome too. 
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  • ZodZod Posts: 6,228
    I don't understand people actually wanting shorter setlist :confused:  
    I'll add that not only do I not mind them doing covers, I fucking love most of them.  I do agree they could do a little more mixing of the sets especially playing a lot of "the hits" every show but also understand thats what most people want.  We are the crazy weirdo fans on here that want to here all the deep cuts.  I think most casual fans would be pretty disappointed if 10+ songs were deeper cuts they didn't know.
    I agree.    I like the longer setlists and I also like the covers.   If you're going to play 35 songs, there's room for covers.   Some of the covers are Pearl Jam staples.  Sonic Reducer, I've Got a Feeling, Masters of War, Baba O' Riley, Crazy Mary... they feel less like covers and more like PJ songs to me.  Many of which have studio recordings by PJ.   There's a few specific covers I've grown wary of (ahem RITFW), but I do enjoy most of them. 

    I think the only issue I really have with Pearl Jam shows is only an issue when you go to multiple ones.   The things that they repeat night in, night out.  All the encores end with Porch and Rearviewmirror.   They're going to play DTE, Corduroy, extended Even Flow.    Most shows end with Yellow Ledbetter (which I love, but bums me out because the show is over).  If you only went to a show once and a while you'd never notice, but when you've seen a bunch over the years, those moments are less exciting.   I don't think they'd change this if they played short shows or long shows.  At least with long shows the other songs between the tentpole moments are more numerous and enjoyful :)

    I do think PJ has a pretty die hard fan base.  Hence why they can play deep cuts in the first place.  Most bands play a deep cut and you can hear a pin drop (akin to playing a new song, before the album has dropped).   I think because of how many die hards there are, they can liberally play what they want.   I can't even remember the last time I randomly talked to some one before/after/at a PJ show and it was their first show.  Maybe if they brought their kid or something.. then it might be the kids first show.    Most of the time.. it's more what show # is this for you, and where are you from? :)
  • CopperTomCopperTom Posts: 2,060
    2020 MLB schedule was released yesterday.  You can check ballpark availability now.
  • CopperTomCopperTom Posts: 2,060
    Based on availability...
    Chicago July 10 & 12 ???
    Boston July 17 & 19 ???
    Seattle August 1 & 3 ???

    gotta give time for set-up and tear-down.  And days of merch sales.
  • PJNBPJNB New BrunswickPosts: 5,051
    CopperTom said:
    Based on availability...
    Chicago July 10 & 12 ???
    Boston July 17 & 19 ???
    Seattle August 1 & 3 ???

    gotta give time for set-up and tear-down.  And days of merch sales.
    I like your way of thinking though I am hoping no ballpark shows next year. If they do it would be nice to mix it up so those cities can have arena shows again and places like Philly and NY can get the stadium treatment. 
    PJ
    2013 Worcester 1 & 2
    2016 Quebec, Toronto 2, Fenway 1&2, Wrigley 2
    2018 Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Seattle 2, Wrigley 2, Fenway 1&2 

    EV
    2017 Firenze, Taormina 1 & 2
  • jefftjefft Posts: 145
    CopperTom said:
    Based on availability...
    Chicago July 10 & 12 ???
    Boston July 17 & 19 ???
    Seattle August 1 & 3 ???

    gotta give time for set-up and tear-down.  And days of merch sales.
    Nice I like it.  Guess I better start saving lol
  • tschavtschav Posts: 1,597
    CopperTom said:
    Based on availability...
    Chicago July 10 & 12 ???
    Boston July 17 & 19 ???
    Seattle August 1 & 3 ???

    gotta give time for set-up and tear-down.  And days of merch sales.

    Schedule this year had Wrigley mostly concert-free, but 2020 definitely has pockets in August and July. 
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWestPosts: 12,876
    I'll be surprised if Fenway/Wrigley get played again soon.  
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  • PJNBPJNB New BrunswickPosts: 5,051
    JimmyV said:
    I'll be surprised if Fenway/Wrigley get played again soon.  
    I would be surprised if it doesn't myself. The 7 shows they did last year probably made them as much or more money than 14 arena shows. It is a no brainer financially imo for them and that is where they seem to be in their career right now. 
    PJ
    2013 Worcester 1 & 2
    2016 Quebec, Toronto 2, Fenway 1&2, Wrigley 2
    2018 Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Seattle 2, Wrigley 2, Fenway 1&2 

    EV
    2017 Firenze, Taormina 1 & 2
  • eboweddieeboweddie Posts: 567
    You have hit the nail on the head.  Why do 20 arena shows in 9 or 10 cities.  When you can do 6 baseball stadium shows in 2 cities. And fans will come from the 4 corners.  

    i wish i wish i wish i wish, i guess it never stops
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWestPosts: 12,876
    PJNB said:
    JimmyV said:
    I'll be surprised if Fenway/Wrigley get played again soon.  
    I would be surprised if it doesn't myself. The 7 shows they did last year probably made them as much or more money than 14 arena shows. It is a no brainer financially imo for them and that is where they seem to be in their career right now. 
    Fair point. To me it feels like it's been done, but to them it might feel like the beginning of a perfect revenue stream. 
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  • PJNBPJNB New BrunswickPosts: 5,051
    JimmyV said:
    PJNB said:
    JimmyV said:
    I'll be surprised if Fenway/Wrigley get played again soon.  
    I would be surprised if it doesn't myself. The 7 shows they did last year probably made them as much or more money than 14 arena shows. It is a no brainer financially imo for them and that is where they seem to be in their career right now. 
    Fair point. To me it feels like it's been done, but to them it might feel like the beginning of a perfect revenue stream. 
    Ya the shows sold out in seconds and they had unbelievable interest from us with the fanclub tickets. I can see them milking this dry unfortunately. That said though 2016 was great in the sense we had two shots to see them with the spring and summer. If they did it again like that I would be able to get to see more shows since the timeline is broken up. All speculation of course but hoping some rumours start to pop up in the fall like they did in 2017 for Fenway. 
    PJ
    2013 Worcester 1 & 2
    2016 Quebec, Toronto 2, Fenway 1&2, Wrigley 2
    2018 Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Seattle 2, Wrigley 2, Fenway 1&2 

    EV
    2017 Firenze, Taormina 1 & 2
  • on2legson2legs The Jersey ShorePosts: 8,517
    At this point I’ll take any kind of shows if it means they’ll play the East Coast next year. 
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