2020 Tour Rumor Thread
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            #WoodstockWebcastOrBust
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            So is that Woodstock, big W, in Watkins Glen, or woodstock, little W, in Bethel Woods?
  
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            More festivals and no arena dates (if we are lucky).
 Canada wants a tour. Australia wants a tour. Many more live within a 4 hour drive of NYC (lol imagine a "tour dedicated to just metro NYC").
 So they're doing a few festivals perhaps. One about six hours drive from NYC. And fans (perhaps the band) outside this impossible region to get PJ tix will consider Woodstock a NY date. Leading to a longer wait for nyc (perhaps) .
 Hope those in Buffalo and Toronto enjoy! Sounds like a terrific party!0
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            I had to remind myself of where Watkins Glen was located (bottom of Finger Lakes). I gotta say, it's pretty central...right in the middle of a "circle" surrounded by large cities like NYC, Philly, Boston, Montreal, Toronto, Detroit, Buffalo, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, ...0
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 Big W, Watkins GlennMike D88 said:So is that Woodstock, big W, in Watkins Glen, or woodstock, little W, in Bethel Woods?0
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            I really hope its not Watkins Glen. I love festivals, but a 100,000 people in the middle of nowhere will be a challenge.0
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            Watkins Glen is the payday and the much larger event... no shot they play the smaller event at Bethel0
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            Seems like Watkins Glen might fit if PJ is doing a one-off or only a limited run. Bethel might fit better if part of a proper tour. Not sure either is worth traveling a long distance for. The "payday" isn't going to be a factor because it would probably be the same for either event. I still think Bethel makes more sense given the Livenation connection. Danny Wimmer presents is doing the booking for Watkins Glen (they do mostly "rock" type festivals like Chicago Open Air, Rock on the Range, etc.).
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            EV solo Louisville 2017 was a Danny Wimmer festival I think.PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
 EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
 Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 20230
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 a challenge is an under statement !! rail spots? posters? merch? the rain, the heat the lack of water. the parking lot, the brown acidGet_Right said:I really hope its not Watkins Glen. I love festivals, but a 100,000 people in the middle of nowhere will be a challenge.
 way too many unknowns
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            People seem to forget that both Woodstock 94' and Woodstock 99' were not exactly TRIBUTES to the original woodstock, but more an evolution of what Woodstock would have been with popular artists of the day.
 I believe in the same spirit, and with the given rumored lineup, Watkins Glenn will be the place to be.
 This Bethel Woods concert seems to be more of a TRIBUTE to the original woodstock, and not an evolution. I just don't see PJ playing a 15,000 cap amphitheater given the shows they've played in the last 3 years...0
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 Also im not sure if this is sarcasm or not, but the spirit of woodstock goes far beyond any of the things you mentioned in question and if thats the mentality fans are going to have about it, it would probably be easier to stay at homehelplessdancer said:
 a challenge is an under statement !! rail spots? posters? merch? the rain, the heat the lack of water. the parking lot, the brown acidGet_Right said:I really hope its not Watkins Glen. I love festivals, but a 100,000 people in the middle of nowhere will be a challenge.
 way too many unknowns0
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            I kinda doubt either of these festivals is going to have much to do with the spirit of Woodstock. This is going to be about making money.
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 Are you a promoter for Woodstock? Just curious.SandyRavage said:
 Also im not sure if this is sarcasm or not, but the spirit of woodstock goes far beyond any of the things you mentioned in question and if thats the mentality fans are going to have about it, it would probably be easier to stay at homehelplessdancer said:
 a challenge is an under statement !! rail spots? posters? merch? the rain, the heat the lack of water. the parking lot, the brown acidGet_Right said:I really hope its not Watkins Glen. I love festivals, but a 100,000 people in the middle of nowhere will be a challenge.
 way too many unknowns0
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            This is not a NYC metro area concert - it is closer to Canada, upper NY cities already mentioned and Northern Pennsylvania - Scranton, tetc. This is quite a trek from the NY metro area - just to clarify for the people thinking it's close to NYC, NJ, CT.0
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 He defends festivals like people defend their children. He has to be some sort of promoter.bbiggs said:
 Are you a promoter for Woodstock? Just curious.SandyRavage said:
 Also im not sure if this is sarcasm or not, but the spirit of woodstock goes far beyond any of the things you mentioned in question and if thats the mentality fans are going to have about it, it would probably be easier to stay at homehelplessdancer said:
 a challenge is an under statement !! rail spots? posters? merch? the rain, the heat the lack of water. the parking lot, the brown acidGet_Right said:I really hope its not Watkins Glen. I love festivals, but a 100,000 people in the middle of nowhere will be a challenge.
 way too many unknownsI'll ride the wave where it takes me......0
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 Oh you know me so well mr mcgruffmcgruff10 said:
 He defends festivals like people defend their children. He has to be some sort of promoter.bbiggs said:
 Are you a promoter for Woodstock? Just curious.SandyRavage said:
 Also im not sure if this is sarcasm or not, but the spirit of woodstock goes far beyond any of the things you mentioned in question and if thats the mentality fans are going to have about it, it would probably be easier to stay at homehelplessdancer said:
 a challenge is an under statement !! rail spots? posters? merch? the rain, the heat the lack of water. the parking lot, the brown acidGet_Right said:I really hope its not Watkins Glen. I love festivals, but a 100,000 people in the middle of nowhere will be a challenge.
 way too many unknowns0
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 This stigma makes me chuckle. You guys laugh at me for defending something from bullshit criticism and then act like you 100% know for a fact it will be a nightmare. How far did you look into the crystal ball to see that one jack?bbiggs said:
 Bingo.JimmyV said:I kinda doubt either of these festivals is going to have much to do with the spirit of Woodstock. This is going to be about making money.
 The reason I'm defending music festivals is because I see them from a young persons perspective. I'm sorry guys, but the days of 20-somethings following their favorite bands around the country are over. Espeically when Ticketmaster tickets are $250+ fees, and a music festival with 60+ acts is the same price.0
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 Yes, you do have the same sort of attitude that my millenial son falls into often. I discourage it.SandyRavage said:
 This stigma makes me chuckle. You guys laugh at me for defending something from bullshit criticism and then act like you 100% know for a fact it will be a nightmare. How far did you look into the crystal ball to see that one jack?bbiggs said:
 Bingo.JimmyV said:I kinda doubt either of these festivals is going to have much to do with the spirit of Woodstock. This is going to be about making money.
 The reason I'm defending music festivals is because I see them from a young persons perspective. I'm sorry guys, but the days of 20-somethings following their favorite bands around the country are over. Espeically when Ticketmaster tickets are $250+ fees, and a music festival with 60+ acts is the same price.0
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