I don't assume that stadiums will be the norm. It makes sense for non-album/tour years, but if they're doing a full arena tour, stadiums don't make as much sense. As someone said above, the stadiums were "events."
Agreed. I don't know why so many seem to think they are ONLY going to play baseball stadiums from now on. That's just asinine.
Nobody thinks it will be Stadiums only... but they will continue to become more of the norm, especially in certain markets
When is the last time they played an arena/ampitheater in Chicago? 13 years ago?
I don't assume that stadiums will be the norm. It makes sense for non-album/tour years, but if they're doing a full arena tour, stadiums don't make as much sense. As someone said above, the stadiums were "events."
Agreed. I don't know why so many seem to think they are ONLY going to play baseball stadiums from now on. That's just asinine.
Nobody thinks it will be Stadiums only... but they will continue to become more of the norm, especially in certain markets
When is the last time they played an arena/ampitheater in Chicago? 13 years ago?
Gotta be the longest drought ever in the nyc area for a pj concert. (And rock and roll hall of fame doesn’t count in my book).
I enjoyed the vibe at Wrigley/Wrigleyville far more than the United Center.
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"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore
I don’t think a Non-Wrigley Chicago show will ever happen again unless it’s a Lolla show on an off year
2010: Cleveland 2012: Atlanta 2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II 2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver 2015: New York City 2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco 2017: Ohana Fest (EV) 2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II 2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2 2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver 2023: St. Paul II
That “magical” vibe is not going to be there much longer. The ballpark shows are getting played out. There’s almost no good seats in a ballpark and the constant threat of bad weather isn’t fun either. Just to bring up a few negatives.
I’ve tried not to post here because I don’t want to say anything bad. My feelings with the band right now are very negative.
That “magical” vibe is not going to be there much longer. The ballpark shows are getting played out. There’s almost no good seats in a ballpark and the constant threat of bad weather isn’t fun either. Just to bring up a few negatives.
I’ve tried not to post here because I don’t want to say anything bad. My feelings with the band right now are very negative.
The unpredictability of the weather is a major downside to the outdoor shows. Especially with people traveling for the shows.
But... I think we on the boards are in the minority of fans and the main stream fan who sees them once every couple of years probably loves the ballpark shows.
1996: Randall's Island 2 1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2 2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel 2005: Atlantic City 1 2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Newark (EV) 2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4 2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2 2011: Toronto 1 2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2015: Central Park 2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD) 2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF) 2020: MSG | Asbury Park2021: Asbury Park 2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville 2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore
I prefer arena shows, but honestly don't mind the ballpark shows either. The Seattle Home Shows were INCREDIBLE!! Ironically... the only shows that I've had tickets for that were canceled or postponed were arena shows. Raleigh & Toronto 2 in 2016 & London 2 in 2018.
'96: Seattle: Key Arena '98: Seattle: Memorial Stadium 1 & 2 '00: Columbus: Polaris '03: Columbus: Germain '10: Columbus: Nationwide Arena '11: East Troy: Alpine Valley - PJ20 1 & 2 + EV Detroit '12: Missoula + EV Jacksonville 1 & 2 '13: Chicago / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / Seattle '14: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Memphis / Detroit / Moline '15: New York City - Global Citizen Festival '16: Greenville / Hampton / Raleigh / Columbia / Lexington / Ottawa / Toronto 1 & 2 / Wrigley 1 & 2 '17: Brooklyn - Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony '18: London 1 & 2 / Seattle 1 & 2 / Missoula / Wrigley 1 '22: Nashville / St. Louis
Big or small, it does not matter to me. I just want to hear Pearl Jam play music. I've had an amazing time at the ballpark shows. I think band puts a little more effort into making them special.
1996: Augusta
1998: Montreal, Mansfield I&II
2000: Mansfield I&II, Montreal
2003: Las Vegas, Toronto, Montreal, Mansfield I&III
2005: Montreal, Ottawa, Quebec
2006: Albany, Hartford, Boston I&II
2007: Lollapalooza
2008: Bonnaroo, Camden I&II, Hartford, Mansfield I&II
2009: Philadelphia III&IV
2010: Hartford, Boston, New York City II
2011: Alpine Valley I&II
2013: Buffalo, Worcester I&II, Hartford, Los Angeles I&II
2014: Tulsa, Lincoln
2016: New York City I&II, Quebec City, Boston I&II, Chicago I&II 2017: New York 2018: Seattle I&II, Boston I&II
I enjoyed the vibe at Wrigley/Wrigleyville far more than the United Center.
Agreed. Same here.
No way Sorry but an arena vs stadium is no contest. I’m there for the music and an arena is 10 million times better than a stadium.
We were specifically talking about the vibe in Wrigleyville. The pre parties and gatherings in Weigleyville have been second to none compared to any arena show I have attended in any city. Don't get me wrong, I agree that the arena shows are always going to have more of an intimate feel and setting. But I have had a blast in the stadium shows as well. Wrigley for me will most certainly be some of the most memorable shows I have attended. I am not one who believes we have seen the end of arena shows, I believe we will see plenty more again in the future tours, however I have never been one to complain where this band decides to play. Arena, amphitheater, stadium, etc... Doesn't really matter to me, let's just get some shows scheduled.
It is not only the lack of touring or the absence of new music that is maddening, but the unwillingness to communicate anything to us.
Yes, for those who defend the band at every possible juncture, I understand they do not OWE us that. Except that in my opinion, they kind of do.
It would simply be a kind gesture to let the diehards know. A simple "taking 6 months, 1 year or 2 year break, see you soon" message would be great. Instead: crickets. Truthfully, at this point it really strikes me as quite rude.
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It is not only the lack of touring or the absence of new music that is maddening, but the unwillingness to communicate anything to us.
Yes, for those who defend the band at every possible juncture, I understand they do not OWE us that. Except that in my opinion, they kind of do.
It would simply be a kind gesture to let the diehards know. A simple "taking 6 months, 1 year or 2 year break, see you soon" message would be great. Instead: crickets. Truthfully, at this point it really strikes me as quite rude.
But they’ve never communicated well. They only release info when they have something to report. It would be nice if they gave us some hints or an idea of when we could expect a new album. It’s frustrating but that’s how it’s always been since the rumor pit went away.
1996: Randall's Island 2 1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2 2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel 2005: Atlantic City 1 2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Newark (EV) 2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4 2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2 2011: Toronto 1 2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2015: Central Park 2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD) 2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF) 2020: MSG | Asbury Park2021: Asbury Park 2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville 2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore
It is not only the lack of touring or the absence of new music that is maddening, but the unwillingness to communicate anything to us.
Yes, for those who defend the band at every possible juncture, I understand they do not OWE us that. Except that in my opinion, they kind of do.
It would simply be a kind gesture to let the diehards know. A simple "taking 6 months, 1 year or 2 year break, see you soon" message would be great. Instead: crickets. Truthfully, at this point it really strikes me as quite rude.
But they’ve never communicated well. They only release info when they have something to report. It would be nice if they gave us some hints or an idea of when we could expect a new album. It’s frustrating but that’s how it’s always been since the rumor pit went away.
True but I'd say since 2019 is a "forthcoming year" this is perhaps the one time in their recent career that perhaps fans deserve better communication
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It is not only the lack of touring or the absence of new music that is maddening, but the unwillingness to communicate anything to us.
Yes, for those who defend the band at every possible juncture, I understand they do not OWE us that. Except that in my opinion, they kind of do.
It would simply be a kind gesture to let the diehards know. A simple "taking 6 months, 1 year or 2 year break, see you soon" message would be great. Instead: crickets. Truthfully, at this point it really strikes me as quite rude.
But they’ve never communicated well. They only release info when they have something to report. It would be nice if they gave us some hints or an idea of when we could expect a new album. It’s frustrating but that’s how it’s always been since the rumor pit went away.
True but I'd say since 2019 is a "forthcoming year" this is perhaps the one time in their recent career that perhaps fans deserve better communication
I agree we deserve better. Just being practical and suggesting that we set our expectations appropriately based on past behavior.
1996: Randall's Island 2 1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2 2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel 2005: Atlantic City 1 2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Newark (EV) 2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4 2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2 2011: Toronto 1 2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2015: Central Park 2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD) 2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF) 2020: MSG | Asbury Park2021: Asbury Park 2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville 2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore
It is not only the lack of touring or the absence of new music that is maddening, but the unwillingness to communicate anything to us.
Yes, for those who defend the band at every possible juncture, I understand they do not OWE us that. Except that in my opinion, they kind of do.
It would simply be a kind gesture to let the diehards know. A simple "taking 6 months, 1 year or 2 year break, see you soon" message would be great. Instead: crickets. Truthfully, at this point it really strikes me as quite rude.
That would be a big announcement for a band of their caliber and history to make. They may not see the situation that way. The best way to ride out these periods of inactivity as a fan is to diversify your interests. Especially if you're taking the inactivity of a rock band personally.
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"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore
2012: Atlanta
2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
2015: New York City
2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
2023: St. Paul II
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
But... I think we on the boards are in the minority of fans and the main stream fan who sees them once every couple
of years probably loves the ballpark shows.
but honestly don't mind the ballpark shows either.
The Seattle Home Shows were INCREDIBLE!!
Ironically...
the only shows that I've had tickets for that were canceled or postponed were arena shows.
Raleigh & Toronto 2 in 2016 & London 2 in 2018.
'98: Seattle: Memorial Stadium 1 & 2
'00: Columbus: Polaris
'03: Columbus: Germain
'10: Columbus: Nationwide Arena
'11: East Troy: Alpine Valley - PJ20 1 & 2 + EV Detroit
'12: Missoula + EV Jacksonville 1 & 2
'13: Chicago / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / Seattle
'14: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Memphis / Detroit / Moline
'15: New York City - Global Citizen Festival
'16: Greenville / Hampton / Raleigh / Columbia / Lexington / Ottawa / Toronto 1 & 2 / Wrigley 1 & 2
'17: Brooklyn - Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony
'18: London 1 & 2 / Seattle 1 & 2 / Missoula / Wrigley 1
'22: Nashville / St. Louis
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Sorry but an arena vs stadium is no contest.
I’m there for the music and an arena is 10 million times better than a stadium.
1998: Montreal, Mansfield I&II
2000: Mansfield I&II, Montreal
2003: Las Vegas, Toronto, Montreal, Mansfield I&III
2005: Montreal, Ottawa, Quebec
2006: Albany, Hartford, Boston I&II
2007: Lollapalooza
2008: Bonnaroo, Camden I&II, Hartford, Mansfield I&II
2009: Philadelphia III&IV
2010: Hartford, Boston, New York City II
2011: Alpine Valley I&II
2013: Buffalo, Worcester I&II, Hartford, Los Angeles I&II
2014: Tulsa, Lincoln
2016: New York City I&II, Quebec City, Boston I&II, Chicago I&II
2017: New York
2018: Seattle I&II, Boston I&II
Pear Jam tour rumors with no yr attached to it , 2019 is dead
Yes, for those who defend the band at every possible juncture, I understand they do not OWE us that. Except that in my opinion, they kind of do.
It would simply be a kind gesture to let the diehards know. A simple "taking 6 months, 1 year or 2 year break, see you soon" message would be great. Instead: crickets. Truthfully, at this point it really strikes me as quite rude.
True but I'd say since 2019 is a "forthcoming year" this is perhaps the one time in their recent career that perhaps fans deserve better communication