oh boy if this new album turns into a tool like wait, people are going to lose their minds.
as much as i want to say enough of the wrigley and fenway (too many bad seats, epic experiences are now starting to blend together a bit too much, weather risk, etc) if they did do that id be on board, my love of a great show exceeds any stadium complaints. we'd all take a stadium over a festival any day, so hopefully wrigley is easy enough for them to give us some yearly shows..
Turn into a tool = 13 years between releases?
Play an arena and charge double so the gross is the same. Its money well spent based on the attributes you cited
Bands Pearl Jams caliber and contemporaries routinely play venues that are mid to large size arenas selling tickets from $75 to $100 and do just fine.
Such as? Lerxst1992 simply wants PJ to play arenas instead of anything larger.
You forgot the residency in NYC.
Right. 13 shows at MSG to equal the payday at the baseball stadiums. I am actually on board for that
oh boy if this new album turns into a tool like wait, people are going to lose their minds.
as much as i want to say enough of the wrigley and fenway (too many bad seats, epic experiences are now starting to blend together a bit too much, weather risk, etc) if they did do that id be on board, my love of a great show exceeds any stadium complaints. we'd all take a stadium over a festival any day, so hopefully wrigley is easy enough for them to give us some yearly shows..
Turn into a tool = 13 years between releases?
Play an arena and charge double so the gross is the same. Its money well spent based on the attributes you cited
Bands Pearl Jams caliber and contemporaries routinely play venues that are mid to large size arenas selling tickets from $75 to $100 and do just fine.
Such as? Lerxst1992 simply wants PJ to play arenas instead of anything larger.
You forgot the residency in NYC.
Right. 13 shows at MSG to equal the payday at the baseball stadiums. I am actually on board for that
We all should be.
In theory, you can put in for as many shows as you want, but only win two...IF...there are still tickets remaining, then people can win a third.
Plus...if it's spread out over about 5-6 weeks (vs two weeks) then it could make traveling a bit more difficult. If someone puts in for NYC 1 and 2 and they have to travel from 3500 miles, it would just give another benefit to local fans, as the traveling fan may not be able to do shows 10-13.
Limiting the number of shows won AND a residency at a "marquee destination city" would do wonders for ticket availability.
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10C tickets for NYC are a shit show no matter what. NYC is the only city where I've had to resort to the secondary market. But anyway, no smoke, fire or even rumblings of shows!
With Matt in the studio with what looks like a new band project, mike doing his infinite color and sound project and Ed doing some solo shows it doesn’t look like anything Pearl Jam is happening anytime soon.
oh boy if this new album turns into a tool like wait, people are going to lose their minds.
as much as i want to say enough of the wrigley and fenway (too many bad seats, epic experiences are now starting to blend together a bit too much, weather risk, etc) if they did do that id be on board, my love of a great show exceeds any stadium complaints. we'd all take a stadium over a festival any day, so hopefully wrigley is easy enough for them to give us some yearly shows..
Turn into a tool = 13 years between releases?
Play an arena and charge double so the gross is the same. Its money well spent based on the attributes you cited
Bands Pearl Jams caliber and contemporaries routinely play venues that are mid to large size arenas selling tickets from $75 to $100 and do just fine.
Such as? Lerxst1992 simply wants PJ to play arenas instead of anything larger.
every tour that Dave Matthews Band and Phish play is sheds and arenas.
oh boy if this new album turns into a tool like wait, people are going to lose their minds.
as much as i want to say enough of the wrigley and fenway (too many bad seats, epic experiences are now starting to blend together a bit too much, weather risk, etc) if they did do that id be on board, my love of a great show exceeds any stadium complaints. we'd all take a stadium over a festival any day, so hopefully wrigley is easy enough for them to give us some yearly shows..
Turn into a tool = 13 years between releases?
Play an arena and charge double so the gross is the same. Its money well spent based on the attributes you cited
Bands Pearl Jams caliber and contemporaries routinely play venues that are mid to large size arenas selling tickets from $75 to $100 and do just fine.
Such as? Lerxst1992 simply wants PJ to play arenas instead of anything larger.
every tour that Dave Matthews Band and Phish play is sheds and arenas.
I suppose they do. Short list though and DMB plays a ton of shows.
oh boy if this new album turns into a tool like wait, people are going to lose their minds.
as much as i want to say enough of the wrigley and fenway (too many bad seats, epic experiences are now starting to blend together a bit too much, weather risk, etc) if they did do that id be on board, my love of a great show exceeds any stadium complaints. we'd all take a stadium over a festival any day, so hopefully wrigley is easy enough for them to give us some yearly shows..
Turn into a tool = 13 years between releases?
Play an arena and charge double so the gross is the same. Its money well spent based on the attributes you cited
Bands Pearl Jams caliber and contemporaries routinely play venues that are mid to large size arenas selling tickets from $75 to $100 and do just fine.
Such as? Lerxst1992 simply wants PJ to play arenas instead of anything larger.
You forgot the residency in NYC.
Right. 13 shows at MSG to equal the payday at the baseball stadiums. I am actually on board for that
We all should be.
In theory, you can put in for as many shows as you want, but only win two...IF...there are still tickets remaining, then people can win a third.
Plus...if it's spread out over about 5-6 weeks (vs two weeks) then it could make traveling a bit more difficult. If someone puts in for NYC 1 and 2 and they have to travel from 3500 miles, it would just give another benefit to local fans, as the traveling fan may not be able to do shows 10-13.
Limiting the number of shows won AND a residency at a "marquee destination city" would do wonders for ticket availability.
"Another benefit to local fans"
Folks in Canada, Australia are clamoring for a tour. Something they absolutely deserve once the band decides it's time to hit the road again.
But there's more fans within a few hours of NYC than those two countries combined, if my math is correct. And the ordeal to get tickets here speaks for itself. But the money available to play msg is unlike any other city.
As underserved as those countries are, and they are, no market is more underseved than nyc (outside of LA), and they typically play here when they tour the US.
oh boy if this new album turns into a tool like wait, people are going to lose their minds.
as much as i want to say enough of the wrigley and fenway (too many bad seats, epic experiences are now starting to blend together a bit too much, weather risk, etc) if they did do that id be on board, my love of a great show exceeds any stadium complaints. we'd all take a stadium over a festival any day, so hopefully wrigley is easy enough for them to give us some yearly shows..
Turn into a tool = 13 years between releases?
Play an arena and charge double so the gross is the same. Its money well spent based on the attributes you cited
Bands Pearl Jams caliber and contemporaries routinely play venues that are mid to large size arenas selling tickets from $75 to $100 and do just fine.
Such as? Lerxst1992 simply wants PJ to play arenas instead of anything larger.
You forgot the residency in NYC.
Right. 13 shows at MSG to equal the payday at the baseball stadiums. I am actually on board for that
We all should be.
In theory, you can put in for as many shows as you want, but only win two...IF...there are still tickets remaining, then people can win a third.
Plus...if it's spread out over about 5-6 weeks (vs two weeks) then it could make traveling a bit more difficult. If someone puts in for NYC 1 and 2 and they have to travel from 3500 miles, it would just give another benefit to local fans, as the traveling fan may not be able to do shows 10-13.
Limiting the number of shows won AND a residency at a "marquee destination city" would do wonders for ticket availability.
"Another benefit to local fans"
Folks in Canada, Australia are clamoring for a tour. Something they absolutely deserve once the band decides it's time to hit the road again.
But there's more fans within a few hours of NYC than those two countries combined, if my math is correct. And the ordeal to get tickets here speaks for itself. But the money available to play msg is unlike any other city.
As underserved as those countries are, and they are, no market is more underseved than nyc (outside of LA), and they typically play here when they tour the US.
The only residency I would be interested in is Seattle, and only then if it was part of a larger plan to renovate/rebuild/replace the arena and bring back the Sonics.
13 shows at MSG for Phish, who tour constantly and do a variety of interesting, outside the box things every year, seems cool. 13 shows at MSG for Pearl Jam, who does not tour constantly and rarely does interesting or outside the box things, would feel a bit like a cash grab.
oh boy if this new album turns into a tool like wait, people are going to lose their minds.
as much as i want to say enough of the wrigley and fenway (too many bad seats, epic experiences are now starting to blend together a bit too much, weather risk, etc) if they did do that id be on board, my love of a great show exceeds any stadium complaints. we'd all take a stadium over a festival any day, so hopefully wrigley is easy enough for them to give us some yearly shows..
Turn into a tool = 13 years between releases?
Play an arena and charge double so the gross is the same. Its money well spent based on the attributes you cited
Bands Pearl Jams caliber and contemporaries routinely play venues that are mid to large size arenas selling tickets from $75 to $100 and do just fine.
Such as? Lerxst1992 simply wants PJ to play arenas instead of anything larger.
You forgot the residency in NYC.
Right. 13 shows at MSG to equal the payday at the baseball stadiums. I am actually on board for that
We all should be.
In theory, you can put in for as many shows as you want, but only win two...IF...there are still tickets remaining, then people can win a third.
Plus...if it's spread out over about 5-6 weeks (vs two weeks) then it could make traveling a bit more difficult. If someone puts in for NYC 1 and 2 and they have to travel from 3500 miles, it would just give another benefit to local fans, as the traveling fan may not be able to do shows 10-13.
Limiting the number of shows won AND a residency at a "marquee destination city" would do wonders for ticket availability.
"Another benefit to local fans"
Folks in Canada, Australia are clamoring for a tour. Something they absolutely deserve once the band decides it's time to hit the road again.
But there's more fans within a few hours of NYC than those two countries combined, if my math is correct. And the ordeal to get tickets here speaks for itself. But the money available to play msg is unlike any other city.
As underserved as those countries are, and they are, no market is more underseved than nyc (outside of LA), and they typically play here when they tour the US.
A residency ANYWHERE should make everyone happy at this point
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If they were going to do a residency, it'd be nice if they did maybe three different ones across the US ...say NYC (or Boston or Philly), Chicago, and Seattle (or LA - but not Vegas) for a whole bunch of nights.
BTW: My apologies for not including the South - you do get ignored quite a bit. Please keep in mind I'm stating this and I live in Canada, so I'd have to do some travelling, too!
If they were going to do a residency, it'd be nice if they did maybe three different ones across the US ...say NYC (or Boston or Philly), Chicago, and Seattle (or LA - but not Vegas) for a whole bunch of nights.
BTW: My apologies for not including the South - you do get ignored quite a bit. Please keep in mind I'm stating this and I live in Canada, so I'd have to do some travelling, too!
That's a good idea, a few residencies spread out around the country, the South, east and the West (which is way overdue). As a NYer I would also love Philly or DC, but as nice as city as Boston is, been there done that.
Summer residencies are a way to limit the grind and cost of traveling, and their families can tag along and establish a " home base."
oh boy if this new album turns into a tool like wait, people are going to lose their minds.
as much as i want to say enough of the wrigley and fenway (too many bad seats, epic experiences are now starting to blend together a bit too much, weather risk, etc) if they did do that id be on board, my love of a great show exceeds any stadium complaints. we'd all take a stadium over a festival any day, so hopefully wrigley is easy enough for them to give us some yearly shows..
Turn into a tool = 13 years between releases?
Play an arena and charge double so the gross is the same. Its money well spent based on the attributes you cited
Bands Pearl Jams caliber and contemporaries routinely play venues that are mid to large size arenas selling tickets from $75 to $100 and do just fine.
Such as? Lerxst1992 simply wants PJ to play arenas instead of anything larger.
You forgot the residency in NYC.
Right. 13 shows at MSG to equal the payday at the baseball stadiums. I am actually on board for that
We all should be.
In theory, you can put in for as many shows as you want, but only win two...IF...there are still tickets remaining, then people can win a third.
Plus...if it's spread out over about 5-6 weeks (vs two weeks) then it could make traveling a bit more difficult. If someone puts in for NYC 1 and 2 and they have to travel from 3500 miles, it would just give another benefit to local fans, as the traveling fan may not be able to do shows 10-13.
Limiting the number of shows won AND a residency at a "marquee destination city" would do wonders for ticket availability.
"Another benefit to local fans"
Folks in Canada, Australia are clamoring for a tour. Something they absolutely deserve once the band decides it's time to hit the road again.
But there's more fans within a few hours of NYC than those two countries combined, if my math is correct. And the ordeal to get tickets here speaks for itself. But the money available to play msg is unlike any other city.
As underserved as those countries are, and they are, no market is more underseved than nyc (outside of LA), and they typically play here when they tour the US.
Um, ask the fans in Asia about that.
Asia is a tough spot for any artist. Even for those that play tons of shows internationally- Steven Wilson just wrapped a 14 month, 33 country, 145 show tour and I'm not sure how much of that was in Asia.
My comment was more about the overwhelming population size and rabid fanbase around NY. It would be an interesting comparison how rare and expensive secondary market tickets get here vs anywhere else.
The only residency I would be interested in is Seattle, and only then if it was part of a larger plan to renovate/rebuild/replace the arena and bring back the Sonics.
13 shows at MSG for Phish, who tour constantly and do a variety of interesting, outside the box things every year, seems cool. 13 shows at MSG for Pearl Jam, who does not tour constantly and rarely does interesting or outside the box things, would feel a bit like a cash grab.
And the 7 stadium home away shows thrown in after the Euro tour? Its a business and they clearly want to limit their time away from home and families. To me a residency addresses that and also provides revenue opportunities much better than alternatives, such as a festival, which is difficult for families to tag along (to a one and done event).
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The only residency I would be interested in is Seattle, and only then if it was part of a larger plan to renovate/rebuild/replace the arena and bring back the Sonics.
13 shows at MSG for Phish, who tour constantly and do a variety of interesting, outside the box things every year, seems cool. 13 shows at MSG for Pearl Jam, who does not tour constantly and rarely does interesting or outside the box things, would feel a bit like a cash grab.
And the 7 stadium home away shows thrown in after the Euro tour? Its a business and they clearly want to limit their time away from home and families. To me a residency addresses that and also provides revenue opportunities much better than alternatives, such as a festival, which is difficult for families to tag along (to a one and done event).
Of course it's a business. The home and away shows were a way to make money while playing the west coast, the Midwest and the east coast. The shows were spread out and on weekends. We all wish there were more shows but if you were willing to travel then you had options. A residency in a single arena is limiting traveling fans to only one option.
I know! Like, he used the plural form of "show", so is he implying that one show is currently booked but not multiple shows? And he used the word "Nothing" which is used in the song "Gone" which was written in New Jersey, so is the one show in East Rutherford? It is frustrating when people in the know are not clear with the news.
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We all should be.
In theory, you can put in for as many shows as you want, but only win two...IF...there are still tickets remaining, then people can win a third.
Plus...if it's spread out over about 5-6 weeks (vs two weeks) then it could make traveling a bit more difficult. If someone puts in for NYC 1 and 2 and they have to travel from 3500 miles, it would just give another benefit to local fans, as the traveling fan may not be able to do shows 10-13.
Limiting the number of shows won AND a residency at a "marquee destination city" would do wonders for ticket availability.
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"Another benefit to local fans"
Folks in Canada, Australia are clamoring for a tour. Something they absolutely deserve once the band decides it's time to hit the road again.
But there's more fans within a few hours of NYC than those two countries combined, if my math is correct. And the ordeal to get tickets here speaks for itself. But the money available to play msg is unlike any other city.
As underserved as those countries are, and they are, no market is more underseved than nyc (outside of LA), and they typically play here when they tour the US.
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2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
2023: St. Paul II
2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
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'15: New York City - Global Citizen Festival
'16: Greenville / Hampton / Raleigh / Columbia / Lexington / Ottawa / Toronto 1 & 2 / Wrigley 1 & 2
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'18: London 1 & 2 / Seattle 1 & 2 / Missoula / Wrigley 1
'22: Nashville / St. Louis
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BTW: My apologies for not including the South - you do get ignored quite a bit. Please keep in mind I'm stating this and I live in Canada, so I'd have to do some travelling, too!
Definitely agree with play anywhere, but to explain from my point of view...
A. Just passing time and speculating during another possible slow year for the band.
B. Considering ways that could maximize band revenue while limiting wear and tear of excessive travel and time away from their families.
C. Anything to minimize festivals ;-)
That's a good idea, a few residencies spread out around the country, the South, east and the West (which is way overdue). As a NYer I would also love Philly or DC, but as nice as city as Boston is, been there done that.
Summer residencies are a way to limit the grind and cost of traveling, and their families can tag along and establish a " home base."
Asia is a tough spot for any artist. Even for those that play tons of shows internationally- Steven Wilson just wrapped a 14 month, 33 country, 145 show tour and I'm not sure how much of that was in Asia.
My comment was more about the overwhelming population size and rabid fanbase around NY. It would be an interesting comparison how rare and expensive secondary market tickets get here vs anywhere else.
And the 7 stadium home away shows thrown in after the Euro tour? Its a business and they clearly want to limit their time away from home and families. To me a residency addresses that and also provides revenue opportunities much better than alternatives, such as a festival, which is difficult for families to tag along (to a one and done event).
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