For what it's worth, my latest best guess following all the extra hints from Dimi today. Thank you man!
1. 18 June Amsterdam, Holland Ziggo Dome (C) (I). Assume 17 June "something else" is either rehearsal or travel. As much as I hoped this wasn't on the 18th seems the most obvious now. 17,19 and 20 have been discounted. Unless start pushed back to 15 allowing for 2 more shows in this gap to Pinkpop. 2. 21 June Pinkpop, Holland (O) - seems to have been confirmed by Dimi earlier. South of Amsterdam 3. 23 June Prague, (C) (I) - Kusy is very confident over this, I have no reason to doubt what they say. 4. 25 June Berlin, Waldbuhne (C) (O) 5. 27 June Stockholm Lolla (C) (O) - Dimi seemed to confirm exact date earlier 6. 29/30 June Copenhagen (C) (I) 7. 2 July Werchter (O) 8. 5 July Imola (O) - various sources confirmed 9. 8/9 July Vienna (or Ljubanja) both (C) and (I) - we know north east from Imola and indoor. Not a lot else known about this. 10. 10/11 July London Hyde Park (C) (O) - sorry really tried for Portugal, but we know UK has a show and I can't fit it anywhere else 11. 13 July Lodz (I) - seems to be a contender due to comments around travel plans from ages ago 12. 15 July Budapest (C) (I) - see show 11 reasons 13. 17 July Zurich (I) - Dimi said earlier country will be linked by border to France. Belgium, Italy and Germany already have show and only 1 country has 2. Confirmed ages ago Spain does not have a show this tour. 14. 19 July Paris Lolla (C) (O) - appears to have been confirmed earlier today and the end of tour
Note - Holland is only country with 2 shows.
Dimi a while back said half of the shows were indoor, above is 7 indoor (I) and 7 outdoor (O)
Also mentioned 9 capitals (C) earlier today
Just a guess people, only for fun!! Let me know if anyone sees any errors!
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For what it's worth, my latest best guess following all the extra hints from Dimi today. Thank you man!
1. 18 June Amsterdam, Holland Ziggo Dome (C) (I). Assume 17 June "something else" is either rehearsal or travel. As much as I hoped this wasn't on the 18th seems the most obvious now. 17,19 and 20 have been discounted. Unless start pushed back to 15 allowing for 2 more shows in this gap to Pinkpop. 2. 21 June Pinkpop, Holland (O) - seems to have been confirmed by Dimi earlier. South of Amsterdam 3. 23 June Prague, (C) (I) - Kusy is very confident over this, I have no reason to doubt what they say. 4. 25 June Berlin, Waldbuhne (C) (O) 5. 27 June Stockholm Lolla (C) (O) - Dimi seemed to confirm exact date earlier 6. 29/30 June Copenhagen (C) (I) 7. 2 July Werchter (O) 8. 5 July Imola (O) - various sources confirmed 9. 8/9 July Vienna (or Ljubanja) both (C) and (I) - we know north east from Imola and indoor. Not a lot else known about this. 10. 10/11 July London Hyde Park (C) (O) - sorry really tried for Portugal, but we know UK has a show and I can't fit it anywhere else 11. 13 July Lodz (I) - seems to be a contender due to comments around travel plans from ages ago 12. 15 July Budapest (C) (I) - see show 11 reasons 13. 17 July Zurich (I) - Dimi said earlier country will be linked by border to France. Belgium, Italy and Germany already have show and only 1 country has 2. Confirmed ages ago Spain does not have a show this tour. 14. 19 July Paris Lolla (C) (O) - appears to have been confirmed earlier today and the end of tour
Note - Holland is only country with 2 shows.
Dimi a while back said half of the shows were indoor, above is 7 indoor (I) and 7 outdoor (O)
Also mentioned 9 capitals (C) earlier today
Just a guess people, only for fun!! Let me know if anyone sees any errors!
I think it's cracked up! Yeah! Best thread on the board!
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I cant see where without violating the only 1 country has 2 shows quote. After PP seemed to be confirmed earlier this must be holland.
I am unsure who made that comment re 1992 show but dont think it was Dimi.
Of course this comment could be true-.i just have given preferenve to the 2 shows 1 country rule
If you choose to ignore this rule due to changes (which to be honest has been hinted), then AMS1 could move back to 15 June, with a show 17 June in either Franfurt or Stattgart (I) and another outdoor show on the 19th - this could be UK, which would open up 11 July to be NOS Alive Portugal, keeping indoor and outdoor shows level in number All conjecture and guesses though. Until the big man gives more clues above list seems most sensible to me,
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For what it's worth, my latest best guess following all the extra hints from Dimi today. Thank you man!
1. 18 June Amsterdam, Holland Ziggo Dome (C) (I). Assume 17 June "something else" is either rehearsal or travel. As much as I hoped this wasn't on the 18th seems the most obvious now. 17,19 and 20 have been discounted. Unless start pushed back to 15 allowing for 2 more shows in this gap to Pinkpop. 2. 21 June Pinkpop, Holland (O) - seems to have been confirmed by Dimi earlier. South of Amsterdam 3. 23 June Prague, (C) (I) - Kusy is very confident over this, I have no reason to doubt what they say. 4. 25 June Berlin, Waldbuhne (C) (O) 5. 27 June Stockholm Lolla (C) (O) - Dimi seemed to confirm exact date earlier 6. 29/30 June Copenhagen (C) (I) 7. 2 July Werchter (O) 8. 5 July Imola (O) - various sources confirmed 9. 8/9 July Vienna (or Ljubanja) both (C) and (I) - we know north east from Imola and indoor. Not a lot else known about this. 10. 10/11 July London Hyde Park (C) (O) - sorry really tried for Portugal, but we know UK has a show and I can't fit it anywhere else 11. 13 July Lodz (I) - seems to be a contender due to comments around travel plans from ages ago 12. 15 July Budapest (C) (I) - see show 11 reasons 13. 17 July Zurich (I) - Dimi said earlier country will be linked by border to France. Belgium, Italy and Germany already have show and only 1 country has 2. Confirmed ages ago Spain does not have a show this tour. 14. 19 July Paris Lolla (C) (O) - appears to have been confirmed earlier today and the end of tour
Note - Holland is only country with 2 shows.
Dimi a while back said half of the shows were indoor, above is 7 indoor (I) and 7 outdoor (O)
Also mentioned 9 capitals (C) earlier today
Just a guess people, only for fun!! Let me know if anyone sees any errors!
Looks like a very good guess! Although I didn’t take Dimi‘s comment on Pinkpop as a confirmation... „they could also play PP that day“. Yeah they could, stop confusing us maybe that’s just me hoping for Germany 2 on June 21st
For what it's worth, my latest best guess following all the extra hints from Dimi today. Thank you man!
1. 18 June Amsterdam, Holland Ziggo Dome (C) (I). Assume 17 June "something else" is either rehearsal or travel. As much as I hoped this wasn't on the 18th seems the most obvious now. 17,19 and 20 have been discounted. Unless start pushed back to 15 allowing for 2 more shows in this gap to Pinkpop. 2. 21 June Pinkpop, Holland (O) - seems to have been confirmed by Dimi earlier. South of Amsterdam 3. 23 June Prague, (C) (I) - Kusy is very confident over this, I have no reason to doubt what they say. 4. 25 June Berlin, Waldbuhne (C) (O) 5. 27 June Stockholm Lolla (C) (O) - Dimi seemed to confirm exact date earlier 6. 29/30 June Copenhagen (C) (I) 7. 2 July Werchter (O) 8. 5 July Imola (O) - various sources confirmed 9. 8/9 July Vienna (or Ljubanja) both (C) and (I) - we know north east from Imola and indoor. Not a lot else known about this. 10. 10/11 July London Hyde Park (C) (O) - sorry really tried for Portugal, but we know UK has a show and I can't fit it anywhere else 11. 13 July Lodz (I) - seems to be a contender due to comments around travel plans from ages ago 12. 15 July Budapest (C) (I) - see show 11 reasons 13. 17 July Zurich (I) - Dimi said earlier country will be linked by border to France. Belgium, Italy and Germany already have show and only 1 country has 2. Confirmed ages ago Spain does not have a show this tour. 14. 19 July Paris Lolla (C) (O) - appears to have been confirmed earlier today and the end of tour
Note - Holland is only country with 2 shows.
Dimi a while back said half of the shows were indoor, above is 7 indoor (I) and 7 outdoor (O)
Also mentioned 9 capitals (C) earlier today
Just a guess people, only for fun!! Let me know if anyone sees any errors!
I like very much, but as wrotten before, i ll push the start on the 15/06 maybe not in ams.
For what it's worth, my latest best guess following all the extra hints from Dimi today. Thank you man!
1. 18 June Amsterdam, Holland Ziggo Dome (C) (I). Assume 17 June "something else" is either rehearsal or travel. As much as I hoped this wasn't on the 18th seems the most obvious now. 17,19 and 20 have been discounted. Unless start pushed back to 15 allowing for 2 more shows in this gap to Pinkpop. 2. 21 June Pinkpop, Holland (O) - seems to have been confirmed by Dimi earlier. South of Amsterdam 3. 23 June Prague, (C) (I) - Kusy is very confident over this, I have no reason to doubt what they say. 4. 25 June Berlin, Waldbuhne (C) (O) 5. 27 June Stockholm Lolla (C) (O) - Dimi seemed to confirm exact date earlier 6. 29/30 June Copenhagen (C) (I) 7. 2 July Werchter (O) 8. 5 July Imola (O) - various sources confirmed 9. 8/9 July Vienna (or Ljubanja) both (C) and (I) - we know north east from Imola and indoor. Not a lot else known about this. 10. 10/11 July London Hyde Park (C) (O) - sorry really tried for Portugal, but we know UK has a show and I can't fit it anywhere else 11. 13 July Lodz (I) - seems to be a contender due to comments around travel plans from ages ago 12. 15 July Budapest (C) (I) - see show 11 reasons 13. 17 July Zurich (I) - Dimi said earlier country will be linked by border to France. Belgium, Italy and Germany already have show and only 1 country has 2. Confirmed ages ago Spain does not have a show this tour. 14. 19 July Paris Lolla (C) (O) - appears to have been confirmed earlier today and the end of tour
Note - Holland is only country with 2 shows.
Dimi a while back said half of the shows were indoor, above is 7 indoor (I) and 7 outdoor (O)
Also mentioned 9 capitals (C) earlier today
Just a guess people, only for fun!! Let me know if anyone sees any errors!
I think it's getting really close now. The 2nd part of the tour (from Werchter onwards) looks absolutely solid. The beginning is where I have uncertainty.
Two points that don't fit perfectly:
* Kusy, who you (and I too) trust in the 23rd Prague show also said with the same certainity "Pinkpop is not happening" and Dimis talking about PP was vague and "south of Amsterdam" was reduced to "somewhere but not directly south"
* Prague being the "also spicy" show before Berlin. As much as I loved Prague last year, I can't help myself to see it as "spicy". That would at least make Copenhagen spicy too.
But how the start of the tour can look like with all this considered I am currently clueless. It would move Amsterdam at least to the 15.06. allowing the German date(s) to happen on 17.06. and 19.06. but would make a lot of blank spaces we haven't heard anything about yet which feels wrong. Last three EU Tours were 13 (2012), 12 (2014) and 15 (2018) shows long so 14 feels about right and it would definitely make it difficult to add up the captial-count up correct with 2 or 3 more shows.
PinkPop is funny. My source is 99% sure that no PinkPop, but other one is claiming that it is PP. Maybe it's because the plan changed. Prague is rock solid.
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The reason I think is that they tried to book Coldplay but they backed out. So PP reached for PJ
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PinkPop is funny. My source is 99% sure that no PinkPop, but other one is claiming that it is PP. Maybe it's because the plan changed. Prague is rock solid.
What about Berlin 25/6 and Lodz 13/07? Rumours or something more?
PinkPop is funny. My source is 99% sure that no PinkPop, but other one is claiming that it is PP. Maybe it's because the plan changed. Prague is rock solid.
What about Berlin 25/6 and Lodz 13/07? Rumours or something more?
I think we all are pretty sure that they are correct. I am
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Remember that Dimitris said that after AMS"1" is an open date at Ziggo Dome and i think that implies that after AMS"1" are two days off in the tour plan!?
PinkPop is funny. My source is 99% sure that no PinkPop, but other one is claiming that it is PP. Maybe it's because the plan changed. Prague is rock solid.
What about Berlin 25/6 and Lodz 13/07? Rumours or something more?
I think we all are pretty sure that they are correct. I am
The fact is - PinkPop really fits. Dimi stated - if I remeber correct - that before it will be a outdoor show. So stadium or festival. Do they have other fests near Netherlands? I cant recall any besides PinkPop.
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PinkPop is funny. My source is 99% sure that no PinkPop, but other one is claiming that it is PP. Maybe it's because the plan changed. Prague is rock solid.
What about Berlin 25/6 and Lodz 13/07? Rumours or something more?
I think we all are pretty sure that they are correct. I am
PinkPop is funny. My source is 99% sure that no PinkPop, but other one is claiming that it is PP. Maybe it's because the plan changed. Prague is rock solid.
What about Berlin 25/6 and Lodz 13/07? Rumours or something more?
I think we all are pretty sure that they are correct. I am
Are you in the know of anything "correct" about Amsterdam?
Nope. Trying to solve the date as well as you guys
I guess it will be AMS on 18.06 thought
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Remember that Dimitris said that after AMS"1" is an open date at Ziggo Dome and i think that implies that after AMS"1" are two days off in the tour plan!?
Morning everyone!
Dimitris confirmed this yesterday replying to me.
I ruled out 17th for AMS1, it related to a guess by One_Stone (on page 193 I think) where only 2 guesses were exactly correct. This guess included Imola 5/7 and Stockholm (27/6) and AMS1 17 June. As we suspect Imola and Stockholm are exact, AMS cannot be 17 June.
Dimitris then replied something along the lines of "How do you know its not the 17th? I mean, I know why, how do you?" -
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Ruled out by Dimi yesterday for the ziggo dome as the 20th.
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1. 18 June Amsterdam, Holland Ziggo Dome (C) (I). Assume 17 June "something else" is either rehearsal or travel. As much as I hoped this wasn't on the 18th seems the most obvious now. 17,19 and 20 have been discounted. Unless start pushed back to 15 allowing for 2 more shows in this gap to Pinkpop.
2. 21 June Pinkpop, Holland (O) - seems to have been confirmed by Dimi earlier. South of Amsterdam
3. 23 June Prague, (C) (I) - Kusy is very confident over this, I have no reason to doubt what they say.
4. 25 June Berlin, Waldbuhne (C) (O)
5. 27 June Stockholm Lolla (C) (O) - Dimi seemed to confirm exact date earlier
6. 29/30 June Copenhagen (C) (I)
7. 2 July Werchter (O)
8. 5 July Imola (O) - various sources confirmed
9. 8/9 July Vienna (or Ljubanja) both (C) and (I) - we know north east from Imola and indoor. Not a lot else known about this.
10. 10/11 July London Hyde Park (C) (O) - sorry really tried for Portugal, but we know UK has a show and I can't fit it anywhere else
11. 13 July Lodz (I) - seems to be a contender due to comments around travel plans from ages ago
12. 15 July Budapest (C) (I) - see show 11 reasons
13. 17 July Zurich (I) - Dimi said earlier country will be linked by border to France. Belgium, Italy and Germany already have show and only 1 country has 2. Confirmed ages ago Spain does not have a show this tour.
14. 19 July Paris Lolla (C) (O) - appears to have been confirmed earlier today and the end of tour
Note - Holland is only country with 2 shows.
Dimi a while back said half of the shows were indoor, above is 7 indoor (I) and 7 outdoor (O)
Also mentioned 9 capitals (C) earlier today
Just a guess people, only for fun!! Let me know if anyone sees any errors!
Best thread on the board!
2014: Gdynia, PL
2017: EV Solo Berlin, DE
2018: PinkPop Festival, NL; London #1, UK; Padova, ITA; Prague, CZ; Krakow, PL; Berlin; DE; London #2, UK
2019: EV Solo Berlin, DE
2022: Berlin, Budapest, Krakow
2014: Gdynia, PL
2017: EV Solo Berlin, DE
2018: PinkPop Festival, NL; London #1, UK; Padova, ITA; Prague, CZ; Krakow, PL; Berlin; DE; London #2, UK
2019: EV Solo Berlin, DE
2022: Berlin, Budapest, Krakow
If you choose to ignore this rule due to changes (which to be honest has been hinted), then AMS1 could move back to 15 June, with a show 17 June in either Franfurt or Stattgart (I) and another outdoor show on the 19th - this could be UK, which would open up 11 July to be NOS Alive Portugal, keeping indoor and outdoor shows level in number All conjecture and guesses though. Until the big man gives more clues above list seems most sensible to me,
is it just a dream?
* Kusy, who you (and I too) trust in the 23rd Prague show also said with the same certainity "Pinkpop is not happening" and Dimis talking about PP was vague and "south of Amsterdam" was reduced to "somewhere but not directly south"
* Prague being the "also spicy" show before Berlin. As much as I loved Prague last year, I can't help myself to see it as "spicy". That would at least make Copenhagen spicy too.
But how the start of the tour can look like with all this considered I am currently clueless. It would move Amsterdam at least to the 15.06. allowing the German date(s) to happen on 17.06. and 19.06. but would make a lot of blank spaces we haven't heard anything about yet which feels wrong. Last three EU Tours were 13 (2012), 12 (2014) and 15 (2018) shows long so 14 feels about right and it would definitely make it difficult to add up the captial-count up correct with 2 or 3 more shows.
My source is 99% sure that no PinkPop, but other one is claiming that it is PP. Maybe it's because the plan changed.
Prague is rock solid.
2014: Gdynia, PL
2017: EV Solo Berlin, DE
2018: PinkPop Festival, NL; London #1, UK; Padova, ITA; Prague, CZ; Krakow, PL; Berlin; DE; London #2, UK
2019: EV Solo Berlin, DE
2022: Berlin, Budapest, Krakow
So PP reached for PJ
2014: Gdynia, PL
2017: EV Solo Berlin, DE
2018: PinkPop Festival, NL; London #1, UK; Padova, ITA; Prague, CZ; Krakow, PL; Berlin; DE; London #2, UK
2019: EV Solo Berlin, DE
2022: Berlin, Budapest, Krakow
Rumours or something more?
2014: Gdynia, PL
2017: EV Solo Berlin, DE
2018: PinkPop Festival, NL; London #1, UK; Padova, ITA; Prague, CZ; Krakow, PL; Berlin; DE; London #2, UK
2019: EV Solo Berlin, DE
2022: Berlin, Budapest, Krakow
The fact is - PinkPop really fits. Dimi stated - if I remeber correct - that before it will be a outdoor show. So stadium or festival. Do they have other fests near Netherlands? I cant recall any besides PinkPop.
2014: Gdynia, PL
2017: EV Solo Berlin, DE
2018: PinkPop Festival, NL; London #1, UK; Padova, ITA; Prague, CZ; Krakow, PL; Berlin; DE; London #2, UK
2019: EV Solo Berlin, DE
2022: Berlin, Budapest, Krakow
I guess it will be AMS on 18.06 thought
2014: Gdynia, PL
2017: EV Solo Berlin, DE
2018: PinkPop Festival, NL; London #1, UK; Padova, ITA; Prague, CZ; Krakow, PL; Berlin; DE; London #2, UK
2019: EV Solo Berlin, DE
2022: Berlin, Budapest, Krakow
i always read that "if so" as a confirm for a german stadium but incorrect one