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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,914
    PJNB said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJNB said:
    Also 100+ new comments this morning. The detective work is strong in this forum. Lots of pieces of the puzzle are coming together. 
    People are pumped for some shows!!!
    Bout damn time. Two years off in the last 3 has people itching. 
    You think Krakow was the best european show in 2018?  I'm just trying to figure out what boots to buy with my 30% off coupon.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    BlueLedbetterBlueLedbetter Posts: 1,172
    edited November 2019
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJNB said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJNB said:
    Also 100+ new comments this morning. The detective work is strong in this forum. Lots of pieces of the puzzle are coming together. 
    People are pumped for some shows!!!
    Bout damn time. Two years off in the last 3 has people itching. 
    You think Krakow was the best european show in 2018?  I'm just trying to figure out what boots to buy with my 30% off coupon.  

    Krakow would be the best bootleg I think yes other shows I went to were great for different reasons but for bootleg I'd go Krakow 
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    D.FrankD.Frank Posts: 486
    dimitrispearljam said:
    ed243421 said:
    My guess for dimi’s first 4:

    berlin
    in
    in
    stockholm

    with several in and out’s in between  =)

     in-out-out -in.
    Are you leaving out shows in between?
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,106
    edited November 2019
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJNB said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJNB said:
    Also 100+ new comments this morning. The detective work is strong in this forum. Lots of pieces of the puzzle are coming together. 
    People are pumped for some shows!!!
    Bout damn time. Two years off in the last 3 has people itching. 
    You think Krakow was the best european show in 2018?  I'm just trying to figure out what boots to buy with my 30% off coupon.  
    Krakow being the best is the consensus around here of what I can see.

    Was one of the best, if not the best PJ shows I've seen. The prague+Krakow+Berlin triple punch is one of legends. BUT OFC I SKIPPED BERLIN. #thumbingmywaybacktosweden

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    radarradar Posts: 770
    dimitrispearljam said:
    is out in out,,sounds like we having sex..hahaahahahah
    We must be really close in guessing :) so Dimi is trying to baffle us / start thinking of something else


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    jimjam1982jimjam1982 AZ Posts: 1,262
    Does anyone truly expect an announcement before end of year? 

    There are a lot of great shows in 2020.. obviously PJ is at the top of my list and I would love to travel to EU to see them in Hungary or Poland.. However, I don't want to pass on all these other great shows coming around.
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    AponeApone Posts: 581
    jimjam1982 said:
    Does anyone truly expect an announcement before end of year? 

    There are a lot of great shows in 2020.. obviously PJ is at the top of my list and I would love to travel to EU to see them in Hungary or Poland.. However, I don't want to pass on all these other great shows coming around.
    1st Friday in December for both 2014 and 2018.  I would say it is a good bet it will be the same
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    SomethingCreativeSomethingCreative Kazoo, MI Posts: 3,351
    Apone said:
    jimjam1982 said:
    Does anyone truly expect an announcement before end of year? 

    There are a lot of great shows in 2020.. obviously PJ is at the top of my list and I would love to travel to EU to see them in Hungary or Poland.. However, I don't want to pass on all these other great shows coming around.
    1st Friday in December for both 2014 and 2018.  I would say it is a good bet it will be the same
    2010 tour was also announced the first week of dec.  another thing I noticed US spring dates starting in May 2010 weren’t announced until MARCH that year.   
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    KusyKusy Posts: 351
    No Pinkpop.
    Prague 23.06.
    That's what I know :)
    ps. Annoucement most likely will the on the first Friday of December - it depends on Rock Werchter schedule :)
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    2018: PinkPop Festival, NL; London #1, UK; Padova, ITA; Prague, CZ; Krakow, PL; Berlin; DE; London #2, UK
    2019: EV Solo Berlin, DE
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    PJNBPJNB Posts: 12,830
    edited November 2019
    Kusy said:
    No Pinkpop.
    Prague 23.06.
    That's what I know :)
    ps. Annoucement most likely will the on the first Friday of December - it depends on Rock Werchter schedule :)
    If no Pinkpop then what fills in the gap after the Ziggodome and your Prague date? Also why would there only be one show at the start of the tour there if Pinkpop was not a factor this time?
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    ed243421ed243421 Posts: 7,636
    What is south of Amsterdam besides werchter, France, & Geneva?
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    dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPRO Posts: 139,168
    ed243421 said:
    What is south of Amsterdam besides werchter, France, & Geneva?
     nigeria
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    ddeschlerddeschler Posts: 634
    dimitrispearljam said:
    ed243421 said:
    What is south of Amsterdam besides werchter, France, & Geneva?
     nigeria
    Sounds spicy!
    I've seen quite a few Pearl Jam shows.
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    D.FrankD.Frank Posts: 486
    IF they play two cities in the Netherlands than i think it will be Rotterdam. Because its south of Amsterdam.
    IF they dont play in two cities in the Netherlands then, and almost no one did mention it, it can be Belgium.
    Antwerp or Brussels.
    Thats also south of Amsterdam!
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    karl_chihirokarl_chihiro Posts: 430
    ddeschler said:
    dimitrispearljam said:
    ed243421 said:
    What is south of Amsterdam besides werchter, France, & Geneva?
     nigeria
    Sounds spicy!
    :D
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    retroretro Posts: 116
    edited November 2019
    mrk2 said:
    There's at least 4 shows between Imola and tour ending festival(s)

    Spicy three are last non-festival shows:
    Q: Are the 3 arena shows the last non fest shows of the tour?
    A: yep

    But in addition to the spicy three, there is one more semi-spicy show after Imola
    Q: Dimi - is there any other shows you would consider ‘spicy’ besides the 3 in a row?
    A: ..one after imola and one before berlin 

    @dimi you go to all spicy and semi spicy shows?
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    JABKJABK Finland Posts: 304
    dimitrispearljam said:
    ed243421 said:
    What is south of Amsterdam besides werchter, France, & Geneva?
     nigeria
    Watch it! Don't give Alternative Nation any ideas 😎
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    D.FrankD.Frank Posts: 486
    D.Frank said:
    IF they play two cities in the Netherlands than i think it will be Rotterdam. Because its south of Amsterdam.
    IF they dont play in two cities in the Netherlands then, and almost no one did mention it, it can be Belgium.
    Antwerp or Brussels.
    Thats also south of Amsterdam!
    Oh shit, i forgot Werchter!
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    dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPRO Posts: 139,168
    BTW...DID I TOLD U GUYS THAT IN GEOGRAPHY I SUCK??
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    D.FrankD.Frank Posts: 486
    Maybe they dont play two cities in germany and instead maybe Antwerp or Brussels besides Werchter in Belgium!?
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    CopperTomCopperTom Posts: 2,990
    dimitrispearljam said:
    BTW...DID I TOLD U GUYS THAT IN GEOGRAPHY I SUCK??
    So north = south and east = west?
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    ed243421ed243421 Posts: 7,636
    Ok, south-ish
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    EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
    BOSTON 5-17-10
    EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
    PJ20 9-3-11
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    Lost In OhioLost In Ohio Posts: 6,773
    SomethingCreative said:
    Apone said:
    jimjam1982 said:
    Does anyone truly expect an announcement before end of year? 

    There are a lot of great shows in 2020.. obviously PJ is at the top of my list and I would love to travel to EU to see them in Hungary or Poland.. However, I don't want to pass on all these other great shows coming around.
    1st Friday in December for both 2014 and 2018.  I would say it is a good bet it will be the same
    2010 tour was also announced the first week of dec.  another thing I noticed US spring dates starting in May 2010 weren’t announced until MARCH that year.   


    The birdie that went to 10C with that tease almost didn't happen, IIRC. There were rumors that May 6th had holds for Columbus, State College and...Dallas? Houston? Somewhere down there.

    I'm glad they did 2010 because if they didn't, it would have been 2009-2013 without a US tour and even longer without midwest dates. It would have been 2003-2014 without me seeing them.
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    D.FrankD.Frank Posts: 486
    dimitrispearljam said:
    BTW...DID I TOLD U GUYS THAT IN GEOGRAPHY I SUCK??
    What about the german city not played since 92 rumour?
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    JPPJ84JPPJ84 Hamburg, Germany Posts: 3,440
    dimitrispearljam said:
    BTW...DID I TOLD U GUYS THAT IN GEOGRAPHY I SUCK??
    You can’t be so bad to think Prague is to the South. So there’s got to be a show in between?!
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    CopperTomCopperTom Posts: 2,990
    Lost In Ohio said:
    SomethingCreative said:
    Apone said:
    jimjam1982 said:
    Does anyone truly expect an announcement before end of year? 

    There are a lot of great shows in 2020.. obviously PJ is at the top of my list and I would love to travel to EU to see them in Hungary or Poland.. However, I don't want to pass on all these other great shows coming around.
    1st Friday in December for both 2014 and 2018.  I would say it is a good bet it will be the same
    2010 tour was also announced the first week of dec.  another thing I noticed US spring dates starting in May 2010 weren’t announced until MARCH that year.   


    The birdie that went to 10C with that tease almost didn't happen, IIRC. There were rumors that May 6th had holds for Columbus, State College and...Dallas? Houston? Somewhere down there.

    I'm glad they did 2010 because if they didn't, it would have been 2009-2013 without a US tour and even longer without midwest dates. It would have been 2003-2014 without me seeing them.
    I believe State College 2010 had a hold, but it didn't turn into a show.
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    mrk2mrk2 Finland Posts: 2,026
    How sure are we of Werchter? Is everyone just assuming because of its date and the history?
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    mrk2mrk2 Finland Posts: 2,026
    D.Frank said:
    dimitrispearljam said:
    BTW...DID I TOLD U GUYS THAT IN GEOGRAPHY I SUCK??
    What about the german city not played since 92 rumour?
    FWIW: Dimi said that plans changed (now only one country getting two cities) and one guy seems to so sure about Prague.
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    axellaire8axellaire8 Belgium Posts: 234
    D.Frank said:
    Maybe they dont play two cities in germany and instead maybe Antwerp or Brussels besides Werchter in Belgium!?
    I think about it every day!!! But i can't see this happening... if they don't do werchter maybe but we all know it's not the case... but i'll continue to dream until the announcement! 

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    one_stoneone_stone Posts: 291
    Ok, adapted guess to my initial one follows...

    I am a 4 strong, austrian beers into the evening on a train between two of my birthday celebrations so take it with grain of alcohol :)

    Thank you Dimi for all the hints! It's truly appreciated and - like you said shows how good our lives are - having fun following your hints and puzzling around instead of dealing with more sincere themes..  :)

    SA 20.06. No Show, additional Amsterdam Date (X)
    SU 21.06. Amsterdam, Ziggo (A)
    MO 22.06. No Show
    TU 23.06. Stuttgart / Frankfurt (B) 
    WE 24.06. No Show 
    TH 25.06. BERLIN, Waldbühne (C)
    FR 26.06. No Show
    SA 27.06. LOLLAPALLOOZA STOCKHOLM (D)
    SU 28.06. No Show
    MO 29.06. COPENHAGEN, Royal Arena (E)
    TU 30.06. No Show
    WE 01.07. ???
    TH 02.07. No Show
    FR 03.07. ROCK WERCHTER (F)
    SA 04.07. No Show
    SU 05.07. IMOLA, Autodromo (G)
    MO 06.07. No Show 
    TU 07.07. LJUBLJANA (H)
    WE 08.07. No Show
    TH 09.07. No Show
    FR 10.07. London BST (I)
    SA 11.07. No Show
    SU 12.07. LODZ (Spicy1)  (J)
    MO 13.07. No Show
    TU 14.07. BUDAPEST, Papp Lazlo Arena (K)
    WE 15.07. No Show
    TH 16.07. Spicy3 (L)
    FR 17.7. No Show
    SA 18.07. LOLLA PARIS (M) 

    (X) I don't see Pinkpop happening. The hints about 2nd German date are strong + only one country gets 2 shows. I also coudn't find a quote where Dimi said the possible 2nd Amsterdam date is after the first one. Could as well be before... Ziggo blocked by Clapton on 19.6. 


    (B) based on "south of Amsterdam" its not totally perfect but at least compared to Berlin which was initially discussed at that point its southward. Its the only two cities not played since 1992, they fit the description 'spicy before Berlin', could be Dimis in out out in starting point. Probably good with 'I suck at geography' from Dimi)


    (C) Dimi: "not 26. and not 30.", "high hotel price", hotel prices after 28. lower than before, Waldbühne blocked on 24.06. by Taylor Swift, 23.06. By Iron Maiden. Dimi mentioned on FB, he will be at Waldbühne this year.

    (D) Basically confirmed, Date unsure.

    (E) fits in, has never been denied, blocked by Clapton on 21.06. & 22.06.

    (F) Basically confirmed, date unsure

    (G) basically confirmed by different sources

    (H) Its not backed by any rumors, and my finding of the Intercontinental Hotel being blocked on the 7th might be something completely different, Ljubljana feels fitting. It would categorize as spicy and indoors like hinted and is not that clearly north east as other guesses (dimi saying 'north east if my geography is right, like its not easy to say)

    (I) London not indoor, BST never denied, London hinted as not last festival by dimi

    (J) Fits perfectly for spicy1 (airport with 2 connections from Ireland and GB) plus is one of the last cities in Poland not ruled out)

    (K) Hungary was never ruled out, Budapest fits generally, (side note: here in Austria we consider Hungary to be a "spicy" country when it comes to food  ;-)) plus Dimi said spicy2 is a city he definitely wants to visit. Budapest would fit this description for me. Train to Warsaw plus flight to Budapest fit dimis description too

    (L) Really no clue here? Munich snd Paris fit Dimis '>120 EUR flight' comment, but Munich would be show no 3 in Germany and Paris doesnt fit with Lolla Paris (spicy3 is indoor).

    (M) Fits as tour ending with festival (based on dimis hints 'only festivals after spicy3') and being booked for multiple Lollas makes sense

    Assumptions with no real rumors behind:

    - The beginning of the tour (Amsterdam to Imola) doesn't hold more shows (i.e. Amsterdam starts much earlier)

    - they keep the rythm of show - one day off - show
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