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    lellopjlellopj Posts: 233
    Kusy said:
    So the start:
    ams1 - 20.06
    (ams2 - 21.06)
    prague - 23.06
    berlin 25.06
    lolla sweden - 28.06
    copenhagen - 30.06
    rock werchter - 3.07
    imola - 5.07
    (vacation)
    vienna 9.07
    uk bst - 11.07
    lodz - 13.07
    budapest - 15.07
    lolla paris - 18.07
    billie elish is the headliner of lollaparis 18.07
    no matter how cold the winter there's a springtime ahead
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    KusyKusy Posts: 350
    ams1 - 20.06
    (ams2 - 21.06)
    prague - 23.06
    berlin 25.06
    lolla sweden - 28.06
    copenhagen - 30.06
    rock werchter - 3.07
    imola - 5.07
    (vacation)
    vienna 9.07
    uk bst - 11.07
    lodz - 13.07
    budapest - 15.07
    spicy 3 (indoor) - 17.07
    lolla paris - 19.07
    2007: Chorzow, PL
    2014: Gdynia, PL
    2017: EV Solo Berlin, DE
    2018: PinkPop Festival, NL; London #1, UK; Padova, ITA; Prague, CZ; Krakow, PL; Berlin; DE; London #2, UK
    2019: EV Solo Berlin, DE
    2022: Berlin, Budapest, Krakow
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    AponeApone Posts: 578

    Kusy said:
    ams1 - 20.06
    (ams2 - 21.06)
    prague - 23.06
    berlin 25.06
    lolla sweden - 28.06
    copenhagen - 30.06
    rock werchter - 3.07
    imola - 5.07
    (vacation)
    vienna 9.07
    uk bst - 11.07
    lodz - 13.07
    budapest - 15.07
    spicy 3 (indoor) - 17.07
    lolla paris - 19.07
    Need to fit 1 country with 2 shows.  Germany show 2 on the 17th july?
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    one_stoneone_stone Posts: 291
    edited November 2019
    Apone said:

    Couple more thoughts for what its worth.  

    1) On your original guess Dimi confirmed only 2 EXACTLY correct. You had (amongst others) Ams 17 June, Stockholm 27 June, Werchter 3 July and Imola 5th July.  If we assume Imola is correct (it seems to have been confirmed from various sources), only one of the other 3 is correct.  Likely placing either Stockholm 27 with Werchter 2nd, or Stockholm 28 and Werchter 3rd.

    2) Dimi also said he has chance to catch Iron Maiden whilst on tour.  Most likely to me seems Gothenburg on 27 which means Stockholm would be 28 (assuming Berlin is 25 which seems to be the only place it will fit).  Maiden are also in berlin the 23rd but we are pretty sure there is a PJ gig this day and would mean dimi has a 3 day stay in berlin.

    3) We know Dimis first 4 shows are in-out-out-in.  As he has more or less confirmed Berlin at Waldbuhne, this cannot be the 2nd "out" as this does not leave enough space for an "in" show before Stockholm is happening (assuming we keep the night on/night off sequence to the shows. 
    4) We think there is a show on the 23rd, meaning this must be indoors, followed by Berlin on 25, Stockholm (likely 28) and another indoor show on probably the 30th June
    5) The above in point 1 is why I don't favour the opinion that Ams is the 17th (only 2 guesses were correct - see page 193).  It could be the 18th (in theory) but I feel this is unlikely due to the Euro 2020 footy.  Meaning the 20th or 21st seems likely as a starting point, unless you go back to the 16th June which seems to leave a big hole in schedule.
    Cool additions and details added @Apone!

    1) totally missed that.... if I have to choose (which is obviously necessary ;)  I would move Werchter to 02.07. which gives them more time (off) in Italy 

    2) and 3) and 4) my thoughts too! 25.06. for Berlin is one of the most solid guesses for me. Especially given the in out out in sequence. 

    5) Yes! Without Pinkpop Amsterdam before 20.06. leaves a too large hole without any rumors to fill yet

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    one_stoneone_stone Posts: 291
    edited November 2019
    retro said:
    (L) maybe Zürich 120€ flight


    any idea on  dimis plan about his 2 day trip to show 8?
    Amazing catch @retro on (L) ! I had multistop flights enabled while searching and got Zurich with 1 stop much cheaper but dimi said direct flight! Zurich is my new favorite for spicy3!

    The 2 day trip bothers me too... Could be the show I have as Ljubljana ( north east after Imola) but I think he said something about weekend / saturday off in this context (please correct me if wrong) and that wouldn't fit anywhere in my schedule. Or it's Imola itself? Has he denied going there?
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    one_stoneone_stone Posts: 291
    edited November 2019
    Kusy said:
    No Pinkpop.
    Prague 23.06.
    That's what I know :)
    ps. Annoucement most likely will the on the first Friday of December - it depends on Rock Werchter schedule :)
    @Kusy You got a source for the Prague date?  Cool - if so I would say Amsterdam moves up to 18th and 21st becomes new Stuttgart/Frankfurt/1992... but it feels a little off
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    SOLAT319SOLAT319 Posts: 4,564
    myoung321 said:
    dimitrispearljam said:
    ziggo is great place for tour to start.
    Thank you Captain Obvious.... =) ..... since the last 2 Euro tours started there.
    Last two? Where did 2012 start? 
    I have no patience for bad music and stupid people...

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    rummyrummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,353
    SOLAT319 said:
    myoung321 said:
    dimitrispearljam said:
    ziggo is great place for tour to start.
    Thank you Captain Obvious.... =) ..... since the last 2 Euro tours started there.
    Last two? Where did 2012 start? 
    Manchester.
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    KusyKusy Posts: 350
    one_stone said:
    Kusy said:
    No Pinkpop.
    Prague 23.06.
    That's what I know :)
    ps. Annoucement most likely will the on the first Friday of December - it depends on Rock Werchter schedule :)
    @Kusy You got a source for the Prague date?  Cool - if so I would say Amsterdam moves up to 18th and 21st becomes new Stuttgart/Frankfurt/1992... but it feels a little off
    Prague - As I said Im a music journalist, cant say more ;)
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    2014: Gdynia, PL
    2017: EV Solo Berlin, DE
    2018: PinkPop Festival, NL; London #1, UK; Padova, ITA; Prague, CZ; Krakow, PL; Berlin; DE; London #2, UK
    2019: EV Solo Berlin, DE
    2022: Berlin, Budapest, Krakow
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    JPPJ84JPPJ84 Hamburg, Germany Posts: 3,440
    Apone said:

    Kusy said:
    ams1 - 20.06
    (ams2 - 21.06)
    prague - 23.06
    berlin 25.06
    lolla sweden - 28.06
    copenhagen - 30.06
    rock werchter - 3.07
    imola - 5.07
    (vacation)
    vienna 9.07
    uk bst - 11.07
    lodz - 13.07
    budapest - 15.07
    spicy 3 (indoor) - 17.07
    lolla paris - 19.07
    Need to fit 1 country with 2 shows.  Germany show 2 on the 17th july?
    I think we’re getting really close here
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    RobbertRobbert Rotterdam, the Netherlands Posts: 746
    Munich?
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    JPPJ84JPPJ84 Hamburg, Germany Posts: 3,440
    or Stuttgart or Frankfurt
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    JackD.JackD. Posts: 483
    Apone said:

    Kusy said:
    ams1 - 20.06
    (ams2 - 21.06)
    prague - 23.06
    berlin 25.06
    lolla sweden - 28.06
    copenhagen - 30.06
    rock werchter - 3.07
    imola - 5.07
    (vacation)
    vienna 9.07
    uk bst - 11.07
    lodz - 13.07
    budapest - 15.07
    spicy 3 (indoor) - 17.07
    lolla paris - 19.07
    Need to fit 1 country with 2 shows.  Germany show 2 on the 17th july?
    Why not put AMS 1 on 17 June and the second show in Germany on 21 June?
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    lellopjlellopj Posts: 233

    no matter how cold the winter there's a springtime ahead
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    PJWrelandPJWreland Malmö, Sweden Posts: 39
    Kusy said:
    ams1 - 20.06
    (ams2 - 21.06)
    prague - 23.06
    berlin 25.06
    lolla sweden - 28.06
    copenhagen - 30.06
    rock werchter - 3.07
    imola - 5.07
    (vacation)
    vienna 9.07
    uk bst - 11.07
    lodz - 13.07
    budapest - 15.07
    spicy 3 (indoor) - 17.07
    lolla paris - 19.07
    Didn't Dimi say something about that the show before Berlin would also be a little spicy? What so spicy about Prague? I mean it's a beautiful city don't get me wrong but they played there in 2012 and 2018. 
    2000: Roskilde
    2006: Berlin
    2007: Copenhagen
    2009: Berlin
    2010: Berlin
    2012: Prague, Stockholm, Copenhagen
    2014: Amsterdam x2, Berlin, Stockholm
    2015: Rio de Janeirio
    2016: Fort Lauderdale, Miami 
    2018: Krakow, Berlin 
    2020: Frankfurt, Berlin, Copenhagen
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    JPPJ84JPPJ84 Hamburg, Germany Posts: 3,440
    PJWreland said:
    Kusy said:
    ams1 - 20.06
    (ams2 - 21.06)
    prague - 23.06
    berlin 25.06
    lolla sweden - 28.06
    copenhagen - 30.06
    rock werchter - 3.07
    imola - 5.07
    (vacation)
    vienna 9.07
    uk bst - 11.07
    lodz - 13.07
    budapest - 15.07
    spicy 3 (indoor) - 17.07
    lolla paris - 19.07
    Didn't Dimi say something about that the show before Berlin would also be a little spicy? What so spicy about Prague? I mean it's a beautiful city don't get me wrong but they played there in 2012 and 2018. 
    cause it’s always great shows. And it fits with a little bit spicy. Not very spicy ;)
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    JPPJ84JPPJ84 Hamburg, Germany Posts: 3,440
    JackD. said:
    Apone said:

    Kusy said:
    ams1 - 20.06
    (ams2 - 21.06)
    prague - 23.06
    berlin 25.06
    lolla sweden - 28.06
    copenhagen - 30.06
    rock werchter - 3.07
    imola - 5.07
    (vacation)
    vienna 9.07
    uk bst - 11.07
    lodz - 13.07
    budapest - 15.07
    spicy 3 (indoor) - 17.07
    lolla paris - 19.07
    Need to fit 1 country with 2 shows.  Germany show 2 on the 17th july?
    Why not put AMS 1 on 17 June and the second show in Germany on 21 June?
    Could be! But that’s a long break of four days then. Even 2x 3 days would be long if you’re going for the 20th as the 2nd show. And Ams2 on the 18th would be unlikely with footy next door
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    AponeApone Posts: 578
    edited November 2019
    JackD. said:
    Apone said:

    Kusy said:
    ams1 - 20.06
    (ams2 - 21.06)
    prague - 23.06
    berlin 25.06
    lolla sweden - 28.06
    copenhagen - 30.06
    rock werchter - 3.07
    imola - 5.07
    (vacation)
    vienna 9.07
    uk bst - 11.07
    lodz - 13.07
    budapest - 15.07
    spicy 3 (indoor) - 17.07
    lolla paris - 19.07
    Need to fit 1 country with 2 shows.  Germany show 2 on the 17th july?
    Why not put AMS 1 on 17 June and the second show in Germany on 21 June?
    Also see posts from me and one_stone above about why Ams 1 on 17 is unlikely (still could be here of course, just trying to join dots in most logical way) - as we are pretty sure of werchter and stockholm.  One_stone made guesses of which we have confirmed only 1 is ecaxtly correct - These guesses were Werchter 3 July and Stockholm 27 June and Ams 17 June.  We are reasonably confident Werchter is either 2/3 July and Stockhom must be 27/18 June but only one of these is EXACTLY correct.
    Post edited by Apone on
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    mrk2mrk2 Finland Posts: 2,025
    Hopefully Stockholm is on the 28th, this would push Copenhagen to the 30th, instead of the 29th that is a Euro2020 match day.
    225xxx - 6/28/00, 10/20/01, 10/22/01, 9/11/06, 9/22/06, 9/23/06, 6/18/07, 6/26/07, 8/15/09, 6/25/10, 6/30/10, 7/4/12, 7/5/12, 7/7/12, 7/10/12, 6/26/14, 6/28/14, 7/3/18, 7/5/18
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    JackD.JackD. Posts: 483
    Apone said:
    JackD. said:
    Apone said:

    Kusy said:
    ams1 - 20.06
    (ams2 - 21.06)
    prague - 23.06
    berlin 25.06
    lolla sweden - 28.06
    copenhagen - 30.06
    rock werchter - 3.07
    imola - 5.07
    (vacation)
    vienna 9.07
    uk bst - 11.07
    lodz - 13.07
    budapest - 15.07
    spicy 3 (indoor) - 17.07
    lolla paris - 19.07
    Need to fit 1 country with 2 shows.  Germany show 2 on the 17th july?
    Why not put AMS 1 on 17 June and the second show in Germany on 21 June?
    Also see posts from me and one_stone above about why Ams 1 on 17 is unlikely (still could be here of course, just trying to join dots in most logical way) - as we are pretty sure of werchter and stockholm.  One_stone made guesses of which we have confirmed only 1 is ecaxtly correct - These guesses were Werchter 3 July and Stockholm 27 June and Ams 17 June.  We are reasonably confident Werchter is either 2/3 July and Stockhom must be 27/18 June but only one of these is EXACTLY correct.
    I see. Maybe this is just me hoping they‘ll play a show 20/21 June somewhere nice in western Europe but not Amsterdam. It‘s just so hard to get tickets there. Especially with only one show.
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    JackD.JackD. Posts: 483
    mrk2 said:
    Hopefully Stockholm is on the 28th, this would push Copenhagen to the 30th, instead of the 29th that is a Euro2020 match day.
    Do you think they‘d do that? Exactly 20 years after Roskilde almost exactly the same place?
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    IZIIZI Kraków Posts: 101
    Let's hope that announce (and the lottery ) will be before the draw at the European Football Championship  (30/11) it would be much cheaper (flights) for us ...
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    mrk2mrk2 Finland Posts: 2,025
    JackD. said:
    mrk2 said:
    Hopefully Stockholm is on the 28th, this would push Copenhagen to the 30th, instead of the 29th that is a Euro2020 match day.
    Do you think they‘d do that? Exactly 20 years after Roskilde almost exactly the same place?
    Honestly, no. But if they have planned the routing based on other facts, and the natural date for Copenhagen falls on this date, then maybe. But definitely don't see them making a conscious decision to play there on this date.
    225xxx - 6/28/00, 10/20/01, 10/22/01, 9/11/06, 9/22/06, 9/23/06, 6/18/07, 6/26/07, 8/15/09, 6/25/10, 6/30/10, 7/4/12, 7/5/12, 7/7/12, 7/10/12, 6/26/14, 6/28/14, 7/3/18, 7/5/18
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    JPPJ84JPPJ84 Hamburg, Germany Posts: 3,440
    JackD. said:
    Apone said:
    JackD. said:
    Apone said:

    Kusy said:
    ams1 - 20.06
    (ams2 - 21.06)
    prague - 23.06
    berlin 25.06
    lolla sweden - 28.06
    copenhagen - 30.06
    rock werchter - 3.07
    imola - 5.07
    (vacation)
    vienna 9.07
    uk bst - 11.07
    lodz - 13.07
    budapest - 15.07
    spicy 3 (indoor) - 17.07
    lolla paris - 19.07
    Need to fit 1 country with 2 shows.  Germany show 2 on the 17th july?
    Why not put AMS 1 on 17 June and the second show in Germany on 21 June?
    Also see posts from me and one_stone above about why Ams 1 on 17 is unlikely (still could be here of course, just trying to join dots in most logical way) - as we are pretty sure of werchter and stockholm.  One_stone made guesses of which we have confirmed only 1 is ecaxtly correct - These guesses were Werchter 3 July and Stockholm 27 June and Ams 17 June.  We are reasonably confident Werchter is either 2/3 July and Stockhom must be 27/18 June but only one of these is EXACTLY correct.
    I see. Maybe this is just me hoping they‘ll play a show 20/21 June somewhere nice in western Europe but not Amsterdam. It‘s just so hard to get tickets there. Especially with only one show.
    even going for GA via 10C?
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    PJWrelandPJWreland Malmö, Sweden Posts: 39
    So Cologne is 100% out of the picture? 
    2000: Roskilde
    2006: Berlin
    2007: Copenhagen
    2009: Berlin
    2010: Berlin
    2012: Prague, Stockholm, Copenhagen
    2014: Amsterdam x2, Berlin, Stockholm
    2015: Rio de Janeirio
    2016: Fort Lauderdale, Miami 
    2018: Krakow, Berlin 
    2020: Frankfurt, Berlin, Copenhagen
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    AponeApone Posts: 578
    edited November 2019
    JackD. said:
    Apone said:
    JackD. said:
    Apone said:

    Kusy said:
    ams1 - 20.06
    (ams2 - 21.06)
    prague - 23.06
    berlin 25.06
    lolla sweden - 28.06
    copenhagen - 30.06
    rock werchter - 3.07
    imola - 5.07
    (vacation)
    vienna 9.07
    uk bst - 11.07
    lodz - 13.07
    budapest - 15.07
    spicy 3 (indoor) - 17.07
    lolla paris - 19.07
    Need to fit 1 country with 2 shows.  Germany show 2 on the 17th july?
    Why not put AMS 1 on 17 June and the second show in Germany on 21 June?
    Also see posts from me and one_stone above about why Ams 1 on 17 is unlikely (still could be here of course, just trying to join dots in most logical way) - as we are pretty sure of werchter and stockholm.  One_stone made guesses of which we have confirmed only 1 is ecaxtly correct - These guesses were Werchter 3 July and Stockholm 27 June and Ams 17 June.  We are reasonably confident Werchter is either 2/3 July and Stockhom must be 27/18 June but only one of these is EXACTLY correct.
    I see. Maybe this is just me hoping they‘ll play a show 20/21 June somewhere nice in western Europe but not Amsterdam. It‘s just so hard to get tickets there. Especially with only one show.
    You could still be right.  If Ams 1 is 17 June would imply Stockholm is the 28 June and Werchter 2 July.  Would then open up 20/21 for another show

    I think Southern Europe (especially Iberian peninsula) looks devoid of action this tour.  Portugal has never been ruled out though (from my memory).  This would also fit the "South of Amsterdam" clue :)
    Post edited by Apone on
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    AponeApone Posts: 578
    JPPJ84 said:
    JackD. said:
    Apone said:
    JackD. said:
    Apone said:

    Kusy said:
    ams1 - 20.06
    (ams2 - 21.06)
    prague - 23.06
    berlin 25.06
    lolla sweden - 28.06
    copenhagen - 30.06
    rock werchter - 3.07
    imola - 5.07
    (vacation)
    vienna 9.07
    uk bst - 11.07
    lodz - 13.07
    budapest - 15.07
    spicy 3 (indoor) - 17.07
    lolla paris - 19.07
    Need to fit 1 country with 2 shows.  Germany show 2 on the 17th july?
    Why not put AMS 1 on 17 June and the second show in Germany on 21 June?
    Also see posts from me and one_stone above about why Ams 1 on 17 is unlikely (still could be here of course, just trying to join dots in most logical way) - as we are pretty sure of werchter and stockholm.  One_stone made guesses of which we have confirmed only 1 is ecaxtly correct - These guesses were Werchter 3 July and Stockholm 27 June and Ams 17 June.  We are reasonably confident Werchter is either 2/3 July and Stockhom must be 27/18 June but only one of these is EXACTLY correct.
    I see. Maybe this is just me hoping they‘ll play a show 20/21 June somewhere nice in western Europe but not Amsterdam. It‘s just so hard to get tickets there. Especially with only one show.
    even going for GA via 10C?
    Ams was the lowest % chance to win in the lottery from memory for 2018 tour. 
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    AponeApone Posts: 578
    IZI said:
    Let's hope that announce (and the lottery ) will be before the draw at the European Football Championship  (30/11) it would be much cheaper (flights) for us ...
    I noticed this too.  Absolute killer in terms of timing for PJ fans (if tour announced first week of December as previous).  Add £££ to standard prices of hotels and flights.
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    JackD.JackD. Posts: 483
    Apone said:
    IZI said:
    Let's hope that announce (and the lottery ) will be before the draw at the European Football Championship  (30/11) it would be much cheaper (flights) for us ...
    I noticed this too.  Absolute killer in terms of timing for PJ fans (if tour announced first week of December as previous).  Add £££ to standard prices of hotels and flights.
    Same issue in Amsterdam. Besides lowest chance to score GA with 10C.
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    BlueLedbetterBlueLedbetter Posts: 1,156
    Apone said:
    JPPJ84 said:
    JackD. said:
    Apone said:
    JackD. said:
    Apone said:

    Kusy said:
    ams1 - 20.06
    (ams2 - 21.06)
    prague - 23.06
    berlin 25.06
    lolla sweden - 28.06
    copenhagen - 30.06
    rock werchter - 3.07
    imola - 5.07
    (vacation)
    vienna 9.07
    uk bst - 11.07
    lodz - 13.07
    budapest - 15.07
    spicy 3 (indoor) - 17.07
    lolla paris - 19.07
    Need to fit 1 country with 2 shows.  Germany show 2 on the 17th july?
    Why not put AMS 1 on 17 June and the second show in Germany on 21 June?
    Also see posts from me and one_stone above about why Ams 1 on 17 is unlikely (still could be here of course, just trying to join dots in most logical way) - as we are pretty sure of werchter and stockholm.  One_stone made guesses of which we have confirmed only 1 is ecaxtly correct - These guesses were Werchter 3 July and Stockholm 27 June and Ams 17 June.  We are reasonably confident Werchter is either 2/3 July and Stockhom must be 27/18 June but only one of these is EXACTLY correct.
    I see. Maybe this is just me hoping they‘ll play a show 20/21 June somewhere nice in western Europe but not Amsterdam. It‘s just so hard to get tickets there. Especially with only one show.
    even going for GA via 10C?
    Ams was the lowest % chance to win in the lottery from memory for 2018 tour. 
    And every other tour just about
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