I personally like Mudhoney, but I guess that's the Seattle in me. If there is an opener, it would make perfect sense that it's Mudhoney especially since they're releasing a new album this year. I suppose it's likely that there will be an opener at the show since it says "Headlining" and wasn't billed as "An Evening With....", but I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens in August. Either way it will be an epic couple of shows that we've been craving here in Seattle for too long!
I personally like Mudhoney, but I guess that's the Seattle in me. If there is an opener, it would make perfect sense that it's Mudhoney especially since they're releasing a new album this year. I suppose it's likely that there will be an opener at the show since it says "Headlining" and wasn't billed as "An Evening With....", but I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens in August. Either way it will be an epic couple of shows that we've been craving here in Seattle for too long!
I hope it's Mudhoney as well.
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When's the last time they had an opening band for a proper PJ show? And why would they start now? Unless the opener is playing at 6pm, I'm all set.
They had Off and BRMC open for them in the UK in 2014. Off I could have done without, but BRMC were great and we still got an epic length show from PJ. Was a cool day.
The Milton Keynes show was great with the openers noted above. Didn't affect the PJ show length or performance (which was awesome) and it suited the venue. A big open space where you were encouraged to get there a bit earlier and take in the support bands. BRMC were great and got the crowd warmed up nicely. Almost like a mini-festival type vibe. I would think this format would be ideal for the Seattle shows.......although I won't be in attendance unfortunately.
especially....cause i only do rail now....i hope no opening band cause i don't think it's fair to make us important fans wait 3 hours in a ga pit to see a band they don't want to see..... saw mudhoney in a small club once, had ear plugs in, and heard them perfectly that way. i wouldn't see them again without ear plugs.
especially....cause i only do rail now....i hope no opening band cause i don't think it's fair to make us important fans wait 3 hours in a ga pit to see a band they don't want to see..... saw mudhoney in a small club once, had ear plugs in, and heard them perfectly that way. i wouldn't see them again without ear plugs.
Openers for a stadium show make sense only because it eases the crush on the gates. Some people will go in for the opener, some won't. But it stops everyone from showing up 15-30 mins before PJ takes the stage. Not sure how smooth entry is at Safeco, but every time there's no opener at Fenway, it takes forever to get inside. I think that "PJ might do an acoustic set so get in early" rumor for the first Fenway show in 2016 was directly related to the McCartney show a few weeks prior, where Sir Paul took the stage like 45 mins late because people weren't in their seats (he had no opener).
Also, PJ can still play 3 hour sets, just have the openers come out early. Either way, psyched for the Home Shows!
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especially....cause i only do rail now....i hope no opening band cause i don't think it's fair to make us important fans wait 3 hours in a ga pit to see a band they don't want to see..... saw mudhoney in a small club once, had ear plugs in, and heard them perfectly that way. i wouldn't see them again without ear plugs.
please let this be sarcasm.
rail or nothing. ga or nothing. i absolutely have to have the band notice me....there is no other way now....there is no going back... in fact i traveled from the west coast of the usa going, all over europe and south america, and only went for rail at every show and i met the greatest people ever and they all knew i was the biggest fan ever....
Wow, the hate here for opening bands is very strange. Those with the hate are all basically saying, please don't introduce me to new music, thanks.
I usually like openers as a way relax or to find new music. However their are some shows where I would just prefer the main band. Especially the ones that play 3 hour shows or more.
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When's the last time they had an opening band for a proper PJ show? And why would they start now? Unless the opener is playing at 6pm, I'm all set.
Mudhoney opened the last handful of shows on the 2013 tour. PJ still played over 3 hours in Vancouver/Seattle. They ended up blowing well past curfew.
Which then begs the question, how strict is the noise curfew at Safeco? It's not exactly in a residential area.
Not sure about Seattle but they blew past curfew at Fenway on night 2 and it's absolutely in a residential area.
From what I remember about Fenway:
It was suggested to end at 10:30 with a fine for playing after 11. Both nights were approximate starts of about 7:30. Night two ended about 10:40-10:45.
I'm sure the times are listed in the live threads, but the Fenway times were approximately an hour earlier than typical.
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Wow, the hate here for opening bands is very strange. Those with the hate are all basically saying, please don't introduce me to new music, thanks.
I usually like openers as a way relax or to find new music. However their are some shows where I would just prefer the main band. Especially the ones that play 3 hour shows or more.
Yeah, I can get that. It works great for bands to "pad" out the show.
And ofc, the tradition of helping out smaller bands is a great tradition (maybe Mudhoney is a bit to established and "old" to get that help though. Haha).
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especially....cause i only do rail now....i hope no opening band cause i don't think it's fair to make us important fans wait 3 hours in a ga pit to see a band they don't want to see..... saw mudhoney in a small club once, had ear plugs in, and heard them perfectly that way. i wouldn't see them again without ear plugs.
please let this be sarcasm.
rail or nothing. ga or nothing. i absolutely have to have the band notice me....there is no other way now....there is no going back... in fact i traveled from the west coast of the usa going, all over europe and south america, and only went for rail at every show and i met the greatest people ever and they all knew i was the biggest fan ever....
almost....and if this helps.... i buy every shirt and every poster, regardless of whether i have been to the show OR whether i even like the poster and i collect and trade pins and stickers and socks. i never sell on ebay anymore unless i can easily convince myself that times are tough and i need a new porsche. i also have the dog collars in every color offered. probably there is something i have missed but u might get the picture....
Wow, the hate here for opening bands is very strange. Those with the hate are all basically saying, please don't introduce me to new music, thanks.
It's not that for me at all. I love hearing new bands/music. For me it's all about 1) PJ always getting Mudhoney to play, lol, and 2) when PJ plays 3+ hours, having an opener results in the folks in the pit being on their feet and, if they want a good spot, unable to use the washroom for 6 hours. That is just too long for the GA folks. It's too long for a good half of the people in the stands too. I know we're PJ freaks here, but a majority of the folks there are still more casual fans, and they really don't want to be at a concert for up to 5 hours. By the first encore the crowd energy can wain.
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Wow, the hate here for opening bands is very strange. Those with the hate are all basically saying, please don't introduce me to new music, thanks.
No. We, with all the hate, are bascially saying "Opening bands usually suck so just skip the bullshit and give me 3 hours of what I came to see. Thanks."
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Well, there's one in every crowd. Or maybe two. But not more than two.
The Milton Keynes show was great with the openers noted above. Didn't affect the PJ show length or performance (which was awesome) and it suited the venue. A big open space where you were encouraged to get there a bit earlier and take in the support bands. BRMC were great and got the crowd warmed up nicely. Almost like a mini-festival type vibe. I would think this format would be ideal for the Seattle shows.......although I won't be in attendance unfortunately.
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saw mudhoney in a small club once, had ear plugs in, and heard them perfectly that way. i wouldn't see them again without ear plugs.
Also, PJ can still play 3 hour sets, just have the openers come out early. Either way, psyched for the Home Shows!
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in fact i traveled from the west coast of the usa going, all over europe and south america, and only went for rail at every show and i met the greatest people ever and they all knew i was the biggest fan ever....
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Those with the hate are all basically saying, please don't introduce me to new music, thanks.
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From what I remember about Fenway:
It was suggested to end at 10:30 with a fine for playing after 11. Both nights were approximate starts of about 7:30. Night two ended about 10:40-10:45.
I'm sure the times are listed in the live threads, but the Fenway times were approximately an hour earlier than typical.
And ofc, the tradition of helping out smaller bands is a great tradition (maybe Mudhoney is a bit to established and "old" to get that help though. Haha).
i buy every shirt and every poster, regardless of whether i have been to the show OR whether i even like the poster and i collect and trade pins and stickers and socks. i never sell on ebay anymore unless i can easily convince myself that times are tough and i need a new porsche. i also have the dog collars in every color offered. probably there is something i have missed but u might get the picture....
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