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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,784


    Halifax2TheMax said:
    What secrets were in with the top secret documents that the National Archive retrieved and what was the intent or purpose of having them by POOTWH and what was their value to certain nations or leaders?

    Just that he took classified documents. MAGA nation will not let this stand, no matter what the documents  contained. Goodbye America.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Lerxst1992 said:


    Halifax2TheMax said:
    What secrets were in with the top secret documents that the National Archive retrieved and what was the intent or purpose of having them by POOTWH and what was their value to certain nations or leaders?

    Just that he took classified documents. MAGA nation will not let this stand, no matter what the documents  contained. Goodbye America.
    Pfft.  Bring it.  What are they going to do?  Throw their lives away for that?  Those idiots inclined to do that already had their day.  The rest are just normal keyboard warriors.
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,049
    Lerxst1992 said:


    Halifax2TheMax said:
    What secrets were in with the top secret documents that the National Archive retrieved and what was the intent or purpose of having them by POOTWH and what was their value to certain nations or leaders?

    Just that he took classified documents. MAGA nation will not let this stand, no matter what the documents  contained. Goodbye America.
    My fear as well.

    mrussel1 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:


    Halifax2TheMax said:
    What secrets were in with the top secret documents that the National Archive retrieved and what was the intent or purpose of having them by POOTWH and what was their value to certain nations or leaders?

    Just that he took classified documents. MAGA nation will not let this stand, no matter what the documents  contained. Goodbye America.
    Pfft.  Bring it.  What are they going to do?  Throw their lives away for that?  Those idiots inclined to do that already had their day.  The rest are just normal keyboard warriors.
    A lot of them have heavy weaponry and are current or former military.  I really hope they don’t bring it.
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  • mrussel1
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    static111 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:


    Halifax2TheMax said:
    What secrets were in with the top secret documents that the National Archive retrieved and what was the intent or purpose of having them by POOTWH and what was their value to certain nations or leaders?

    Just that he took classified documents. MAGA nation will not let this stand, no matter what the documents  contained. Goodbye America.
    My fear as well.

    mrussel1 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:


    Halifax2TheMax said:
    What secrets were in with the top secret documents that the National Archive retrieved and what was the intent or purpose of having them by POOTWH and what was their value to certain nations or leaders?

    Just that he took classified documents. MAGA nation will not let this stand, no matter what the documents  contained. Goodbye America.
    Pfft.  Bring it.  What are they going to do?  Throw their lives away for that?  Those idiots inclined to do that already had their day.  The rest are just normal keyboard warriors.
    A lot of them have heavy weaponry and are current or former military.  I really hope they don’t bring it.
    What precisely could they do with that grant machinery that takes over the govt? You don't do that without taking over the power pillars of the country,  that's the military and the DOJ. They'll be dead in a day. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 41,977
    The repub apologists are taking to the airwaves. “They’ve martyred POOTWH.”

    There’s no turning back.
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  • gimmesometruth27
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    "under siege" sounds soooo dramatic. that implies armed soldiers knocking down the doors and forcing themselves in and just pillaging everything.

    a group of fbi agents probably knocked on the door, were let in, and then executed the search.. 

    trump is probably trying to gin up his base. again.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    TJ25487 said:
    Hey all these fuckers are corrupt at some point along the line! I've mentioned it in some of my other posts. Trump isn't a saint. That's for sure. Look at all the politicians on both sides who go into Washington on a government salary and come out rich. Hmmm! I'm just saying a lot of you guys get on here and take sides and point fingers but don't do it equally. You listen to all this state run media that has a favorability rating of about zero. 
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,907
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    Feds don’t get these things wrong.  Raid on Mar-a-Lago is HUGGGHHEEE
  • Cropduster-80
    Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    edited August 2022
    TJ25487 said:
    Hey all these fuckers are corrupt at some point along the line! I've mentioned it in some of my other posts. Trump isn't a saint. That's for sure. Look at all the politicians on both sides who go into Washington on a government salary and come out rich. Hmmm! I'm just saying a lot of you guys get on here and take sides and point fingers but don't do it equally. You listen to all this state run media that has a favorability rating of about zero. 
    They all releases their taxes.  You know where their   money came from… except trump

    only one president was the owner a hotel that foreign governments stayed at before meeting with the president to ask for stuff.  If Obama owned a hotel and Russian diplomats spent millions of dollars there I would have wanted him removed from office too. 
    That’s just 1 example 

    omama wrote books with words.  Trump released a picture book.  I would hope Obama made a lot more money on those endeavours.  I don’t believe Obama has a legal defense  fund that he uses to pay designers to dress his wife. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 41,977
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    "under siege" sounds soooo dramatic. that implies armed soldiers knocking down the doors and forcing themselves in and just pillaging everything.

    a group of fbi agents probably knocked on the door, were let in, and then executed the search.. 

    trump is probably trying to gin up his base. again.
    After producing a search warrant. Anyone familiar with the search warrant process?

    I want to know who directed the packing of the boxes, who put the documents in the boxes and who directed them to do so. POOTWH didn’t pack those boxes. And whoever it was who directed the person to pack them, where did they get the directions from and who told them what to put in them? We’ve seen how patents were given before and after meetings with world leaders. If anyone thinks this is an innocent mistake regarding accidentally taken documents, I’ve got a golf course in Scotland to sell you.

    In the tone of voice of POOTWH, “umm, yes, put those great love letters from little rocket man and that painting of me bare chested on a horse that Vlad did and that vase over there in the, no not that vase! That’s the weak one from the crusty old queen! The big beautiful strong vase that that Hungarian fella gave me. And don’t forget the hallmark card there from Marge. Baron will be by to help you finish up. Have a hamberder ready.”
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,537
    edited August 2022
    :)
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,331
    Do we finally get the P tape, lol?!?
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,049
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:


    Halifax2TheMax said:
    What secrets were in with the top secret documents that the National Archive retrieved and what was the intent or purpose of having them by POOTWH and what was their value to certain nations or leaders?

    Just that he took classified documents. MAGA nation will not let this stand, no matter what the documents  contained. Goodbye America.
    My fear as well.

    mrussel1 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:


    Halifax2TheMax said:
    What secrets were in with the top secret documents that the National Archive retrieved and what was the intent or purpose of having them by POOTWH and what was their value to certain nations or leaders?

    Just that he took classified documents. MAGA nation will not let this stand, no matter what the documents  contained. Goodbye America.
    Pfft.  Bring it.  What are they going to do?  Throw their lives away for that?  Those idiots inclined to do that already had their day.  The rest are just normal keyboard warriors.
    A lot of them have heavy weaponry and are current or former military.  I really hope they don’t bring it.
    What precisely could they do with that grant machinery that takes over the govt? You don't do that without taking over the power pillars of the country,  that's the military and the DOJ. They'll be dead in a day. 
    non stop asymmetric warfare is my worry.  I'm sure the pillars of the country will be fortified, I am worried about the rest of us.
    Scio me nihil scire

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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,049
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    "under siege" sounds soooo dramatic. that implies armed soldiers knocking down the doors and forcing themselves in and just pillaging everything.

    a group of fbi agents probably knocked on the door, were let in, and then executed the search.. 

    trump is probably trying to gin up his base. again.
    My first thought was of Steven Seagal
    Scio me nihil scire

    There are no kings inside the gates of eden
  • Cropduster-80
    Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    edited August 2022
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:


    Halifax2TheMax said:
    What secrets were in with the top secret documents that the National Archive retrieved and what was the intent or purpose of having them by POOTWH and what was their value to certain nations or leaders?

    Just that he took classified documents. MAGA nation will not let this stand, no matter what the documents  contained. Goodbye America.
    My fear as well.

    mrussel1 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:


    Halifax2TheMax said:
    What secrets were in with the top secret documents that the National Archive retrieved and what was the intent or purpose of having them by POOTWH and what was their value to certain nations or leaders?

    Just that he took classified documents. MAGA nation will not let this stand, no matter what the documents  contained. Goodbye America.
    Pfft.  Bring it.  What are they going to do?  Throw their lives away for that?  Those idiots inclined to do that already had their day.  The rest are just normal keyboard warriors.
    A lot of them have heavy weaponry and are current or former military.  I really hope they don’t bring it.
    What precisely could they do with that grant machinery that takes over the govt? You don't do that without taking over the power pillars of the country,  that's the military and the DOJ. They'll be dead in a day. 
    non stop asymmetric warfare is my worry.  I'm sure the pillars of the country will be fortified, I am worried about the rest of us.
    That’s why liberals need guns

    its not about gun control right now 

    they hate liberals and will prefer soft targets 
    Post edited by Cropduster-80 on
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,049
    edited August 2022
    pjhawks said:
    Feds don’t get these things wrong.  Raid on Mar-a-Lago is HUGGGHHEEE
    "From 1956 until 1971, the FBI stalked and sabotaged a wide range of groups - from the Communist Party to Martin Luther King's Southern Christian Leadership Conference. Cointelpro labeled King's nonviolent SCLC a Black nationalist "Hate Group," and hounded the Nobel Peace Prize winner until he was assassinated. " https://www.huffpost.com/entry/martin-luther-king-jr-rem_b_426841

    Feds can and do get it wrong. Sometimes making up facts from nothing. There's other examples out there of Feds getting it wrong, I just thought I would provide one of the most egregious.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    static111 said:
    pjhawks said:
    Feds don’t get these things wrong.  Raid on Mar-a-Lago is HUGGGHHEEE
    "From 1956 until 1971, the FBI stalked and sabotaged a wide range of groups - from the Communist Party to Martin Luther King's Southern Christian Leadership Conference. Cointelpro labeled King's nonviolent SCLC a Black nationalist "Hate Group," and hounded the Nobel Peace Prize winner until he was assassinated. " https://www.huffpost.com/entry/martin-luther-king-jr-rem_b_426841

    Feds can and do get it wrong. Sometimes making up facts from nothing. There's other examples out there of Feds getting it wrong, I just thought I would provide one of the most egregious.
    Uh....this is the most recent former POTUS. Pretty sure Garland has dotted all the T's and crossed all his I's...
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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,049
    The Juggler said:
    static111 said:
    pjhawks said:
    Feds don’t get these things wrong.  Raid on Mar-a-Lago is HUGGGHHEEE
    "From 1956 until 1971, the FBI stalked and sabotaged a wide range of groups - from the Communist Party to Martin Luther King's Southern Christian Leadership Conference. Cointelpro labeled King's nonviolent SCLC a Black nationalist "Hate Group," and hounded the Nobel Peace Prize winner until he was assassinated. " https://www.huffpost.com/entry/martin-luther-king-jr-rem_b_426841

    Feds can and do get it wrong. Sometimes making up facts from nothing. There's other examples out there of Feds getting it wrong, I just thought I would provide one of the most egregious.
    Uh....this is the most recent former POTUS. Pretty sure Garland has dotted all the T's and crossed all his I's...
    The argument from PJhawks was that feds dont't get these things wrong.  There are actually multiple instances of feds getting things wrong and creating evidence to fit their narrative that we know of.  The Gainesville 8, AIM, Black Panthers just about any civil rights leader and into current times with mass surrveilance against racial justice groups and the Occupy Movement equating members or participants akin to terrorists. 

     Lets not forget Comey mishandling Hillary's email investigation and loudly proclaiming about it for months, but not bringing up the Russia investigation into Donald Trump until 2 months into 45s presidency.  So yes there is ample evidence that the Feds can and do get it wrong.  That isn't to say that they did in this instance, but there is the possibility.  Sure there is a new leader, but it is the same institution with the same historical biases.
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  • Cropduster-80
    Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    static111 said:
    pjhawks said:
    Feds don’t get these things wrong.  Raid on Mar-a-Lago is HUGGGHHEEE
    "From 1956 until 1971, the FBI stalked and sabotaged a wide range of groups - from the Communist Party to Martin Luther King's Southern Christian Leadership Conference. Cointelpro labeled King's nonviolent SCLC a Black nationalist "Hate Group," and hounded the Nobel Peace Prize winner until he was assassinated. " https://www.huffpost.com/entry/martin-luther-king-jr-rem_b_426841

    Feds can and do get it wrong. Sometimes making up facts from nothing. There's other examples out there of Feds getting it wrong, I just thought I would provide one of the most egregious.
    Uh....this is the most recent former POTUS. Pretty sure Garland has dotted all the T's and crossed all his I's...
    The argument from PJhawks was that feds dont't get these things wrong.  There are actually multiple instances of feds getting things wrong and creating evidence to fit their narrative that we know of.  The Gainesville 8, AIM, Black Panthers just about any civil rights leader and into current times with mass surrveilance against racial justice groups and the Occupy Movement equating members or participants akin to terrorists. 

     Lets not forget Comey mishandling Hillary's email investigation and loudly proclaiming about it for months, but not bringing up the Russia investigation into Donald Trump until 2 months into 45s presidency.  So yes there is ample evidence that the Feds can and do get it wrong.  That isn't to say that they did in this instance, but there is the possibility.  Sure there is a new leader, but it is the same institution with the same historical biases.
    Their evidence is probably solid as I think the standard of the warrant was probably unusually high. 

    However that depends on that evidence still being there.

    we are 91 days from the midterms.  Pretty close to when the DOJ doesn’t want to do anything political to interfere in an election.  The fact they waited until the last minute makes me think it’s not a slam dunk even if the evidence is solid.  It was more a now or wait several months situation.  They probably waited to see if they could get more, they couldn’t, so they are going after the records they know trump took 
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,049
    Cropduster-80 said:
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    static111 said:
    pjhawks said:
    Feds don’t get these things wrong.  Raid on Mar-a-Lago is HUGGGHHEEE
    "From 1956 until 1971, the FBI stalked and sabotaged a wide range of groups - from the Communist Party to Martin Luther King's Southern Christian Leadership Conference. Cointelpro labeled King's nonviolent SCLC a Black nationalist "Hate Group," and hounded the Nobel Peace Prize winner until he was assassinated. " https://www.huffpost.com/entry/martin-luther-king-jr-rem_b_426841

    Feds can and do get it wrong. Sometimes making up facts from nothing. There's other examples out there of Feds getting it wrong, I just thought I would provide one of the most egregious.
    Uh....this is the most recent former POTUS. Pretty sure Garland has dotted all the T's and crossed all his I's...
    The argument from PJhawks was that feds dont't get these things wrong.  There are actually multiple instances of feds getting things wrong and creating evidence to fit their narrative that we know of.  The Gainesville 8, AIM, Black Panthers just about any civil rights leader and into current times with mass surrveilance against racial justice groups and the Occupy Movement equating members or participants akin to terrorists. 

     Lets not forget Comey mishandling Hillary's email investigation and loudly proclaiming about it for months, but not bringing up the Russia investigation into Donald Trump until 2 months into 45s presidency.  So yes there is ample evidence that the Feds can and do get it wrong.  That isn't to say that they did in this instance, but there is the possibility.  Sure there is a new leader, but it is the same institution with the same historical biases.
    Their evidence is probably solid as I think the standard of the warrant was probably unusually high. 

    However that depends on that evidence still being there.

    we are 91 days from the midterms.  Pretty close to when the DOJ doesn’t want to do anything political to interfere in an election.  The fact they waited until the last minute makes me think it’s not a slam dunk even if the evidence is solid.  It was more a now or wait several months situation.  They probably waited to see if they could get more, they couldn’t, so they are going after the records they know trump took 
    Let's hope they have something
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