Indictments incoming?

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  • mrussel1
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    Parksy said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    And a side of forthcoming indictments. Tick tock. Letitia is busy in that kitchen. You go girl!

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/19/politics/new-york-attorney-general-trump-organization-investigation/index.html
    Question...

    If the AG has significant evidence, what's the purpose of going public with this without announcing any charges? I get that they're trying to compel them to make a deposition, but if I had to guess, the Trumps are now going to stall stall stall and by the time they do make any depositions, they'll either plea the 5th or conveniently not recall a heck of a lot. 
    This is a civil investigation, not criminal.  
  • Parksy
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    mrussel1 said:
    Parksy said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    And a side of forthcoming indictments. Tick tock. Letitia is busy in that kitchen. You go girl!

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/19/politics/new-york-attorney-general-trump-organization-investigation/index.html
    Question...

    If the AG has significant evidence, what's the purpose of going public with this without announcing any charges? I get that they're trying to compel them to make a deposition, but if I had to guess, the Trumps are now going to stall stall stall and by the time they do make any depositions, they'll either plea the 5th or conveniently not recall a heck of a lot. 
    This is a civil investigation, not criminal.  
    Isn't there a criminal fraud investigation as well? 
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  • mrussel1
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    Parksy said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Parksy said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    And a side of forthcoming indictments. Tick tock. Letitia is busy in that kitchen. You go girl!

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/19/politics/new-york-attorney-general-trump-organization-investigation/index.html
    Question...

    If the AG has significant evidence, what's the purpose of going public with this without announcing any charges? I get that they're trying to compel them to make a deposition, but if I had to guess, the Trumps are now going to stall stall stall and by the time they do make any depositions, they'll either plea the 5th or conveniently not recall a heck of a lot. 
    This is a civil investigation, not criminal.  
    Isn't there a criminal fraud investigation as well? 
    Yes, that is a different case.  Weisselberg and the Trump org is under indictment.  
  • Parksy
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    Would the civil penalties be monetary only? 
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  • mrussel1
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    Parksy said:
    Would the civil penalties be monetary only? 
    Not necessarily.  There could be consent orders that affect future business practices, reporting requirements to the state, judgments, etc.  But not jail time or anything else that is criminal in nature.  
  • mrussel1
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    Worse case, the state could dissolve the business, but that would be highly unusual and very dramatic. 
  • Parksy
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    I guess that's sort of what I'm getting at.. like all this drama about all this evidence, realistically, what's the worst that could happen to this guy?  
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  • mrussel1
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    Parksy said:
    I guess that's sort of what I'm getting at.. like all this drama about all this evidence, realistically, what's the worst that could happen to this guy?  
    The worst thing is he loses his ability to operate a business in NY, if he is a principle.  But I can tell you that consent orders are very painful.  So yeah, not nearly as bad as a criminal charge, but not great.  
  • mickeyrat
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    but could be used criminally
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Here's a good synopsis of what POOTWH is facing on the legal front and why he'll either run for office or quid pro quo Deathsantis to stay out of the race. And prison.

    "In the past, Trump's approach to any legal trouble has been to brush it off as some sort of political gamesmanship," said Jimmy Gurule, a former Justice Department official in the George H.W. Bush administration. "But these are investigations on multiple levels, examining multiple courses of conduct. These are exceedingly serious matters. The big difference is that he is no longer president and the mantle of immunity is no longer available to him."

    Fresh revelations in New York court underscore Trump's legal peril on multiple fronts (msn.com)
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    Bull? Bull? Oh Bull? Buuuuuuull! Bull Durham! Where you at? Where’s Hillary? Hunter? Buuuuuuull! Where you at? Where are those indictments? Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuull????????!!!
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  • Gern Blansten
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    unsung said:

    LOL....yeah...total bullshit
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    Gern Blansten said:
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    LOL....yeah...total bullshit
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    lol
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    https://youtu.be/dTLu8vCH4Os

  • The Juggler
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    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    unsung said:

    LOL....yeah...total bullshit
    "obamagate. yeah you know what it is."

    lol
    God, I love this thread.

    Also, I hope no one tried to cash Bongino's check...
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    what the sweet fuck was that lol
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  • static111
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    what is obamagate and what is the memo? who is Dan Bonobo?
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  • gimmesometruth27
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    The Juggler said:
    https://youtu.be/09Nan-uARF4
    dan bongino got the permaban from youtube recently. he may sign up and post here to improve his reach.
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  • The Juggler
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    static111 said:
    what is obamagate and what is the memo? who is Dan Bonobo?
    These are all excellent questions. 
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