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Like the title says. An album with a 30 minute rendition of “Alive” or a mashup of “Evenflow” and “Daughter” lasting 45 minutes. Maybe throw in some new instruments to our favourite songs. For example play some sitar on “Inside Job”.

Lets think outside the box to avoid another typical studio album.
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  • drakeheuer14drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,613
    edited January 2018
    Let’s not rehash old music.

    Completely new would be nice. 
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  • bbiggsbbiggs Posts: 6,963
    drakeheuer14 said:
    Let’s not rehash old music.

    Completely new would be nice. 
    +1
  • Stickman24Stickman24 Posts: 210
    +2
  • JM144705JM144705 Philadelphia Posts: 452
    drakeheuer14 said:
    Let’s not rehash old music.

    Completely new would be nice. 
    100% agree!
  • RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,228
    Yeah I don’t need to hear any old stuff, but I’m 100% on board with experimental/interesting tracks.  Shit, bring jack back so there’s some interesting rhythms again or something.  These last few albums have been pretty similar to me in feeling.
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  • FoxyRedLaFoxyRedLa Lauren / MI Posts: 4,810
    They want no brainers to play live. And Mikes solos keep getting shorter. But they still have their good looks :heart:
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,556
    I don't want old songs messed with. I would also LOVE a brand new experimental album!
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  • elwayvedderelwayvedder South Jersey Posts: 9,159
    i just want a new album. it could be EV burping the alphabet
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,566
    I just want an inspired album. If they are inspired to be experimental, great, but I don't want experimentation just for the sake of being experimental. Wherever the muses take them, that is where I want them to go.
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  • given2fly23given2fly23 Evanston, IL Posts: 6,036
    Binaural II requires them to get in the studio and write together, which I don't think they do anymore.  Seems like they each bring songs in and then record them together.  Would be awesome to get another album like that, but I'm not sure we can (until they all become empty-nesters).
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,556
    edited January 2018
    JimmyV said:
    I just want an inspired album. If they are inspired to be experimental, great, but I don't want experimentation just for the sake of being experimental. Wherever the muses take them, that is where I want them to go.
    I feel like a decision is still involved because at this point in their career and the current music market, like it or not and genuine inspiration aside (which I agree is key), the question to themselves or from their producer would likely be, "Do we want to actually aim for a mass market commercial success or not?" And I think the answer to that will necessarily guide the style of the album.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • Foriginal SinForiginal Sin Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,874
    elwayvedder said:
    i just want a new album. it could be EV burping the alphabet
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  • SomethingCreativeSomethingCreative Kazoo, MI Posts: 3,406
    given2fly23 said:
    Binaural II requires them to get in the studio and write together, which I don't think they do anymore.  Seems like they each bring songs in and then record them together.  Would be awesome to get another album like that, but I'm not sure we can (until they all become empty-nesters).
    Jeff’s comments about them playing and writing the last few months have me encouraged. Even if it isn’t all of them at once, the idea of a “typical day” being them getting together to make music sounds like a step in the right direction
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  • marjenmarjen CT Posts: 808
    Its been 4 years already, I dont think I want some screwy off the wall experimental album. How about they prove they can still write really good, solid rock songs. Not to say there weren't some on the last couple albums because there were. But binaural, riot act I do not want a second act. 
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,556
    edited January 2018
    marjen said:
    Its been 4 years already, I dont think I want some screwy off the wall experimental album. How about they prove they can still write really good, solid rock songs. Not to say there weren't some on the last couple albums because there were. But binaural, riot act I do not want a second act. 
    When I say "experimental" and "Pearl Jam" together, I don't get "screwy and off the wall". I get something more like Vitalogy, maybe minus Better Man and Nothing Man and hopefully something less "poppy" in their place. Or something closer to No Code. It's not like PJ is Hovercraft. Experimental is very much a relative term for PJ, lol. I think people are really just dying for a departure from Backspacer and LB kind of stuff, and if you compare No Code to LB, No Code is like fucking Brian Eno. :lol:;)
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  • on2legson2legs Posts: 15,909
    JimmyV said:
    I just want an inspired album. If they are inspired to be experimental, great, but I don't want experimentation just for the sake of being experimental. Wherever the muses take them, that is where I want them to go.
    Well said. 
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  • JammalamboJammalambo Posts: 1,321
    No offense, but I don't think that this "Like the title says" line has ever been used less appropriately. Rehashing old music is the less experimental and more lame thing I can think of them doing for a new album.
    Anyway, think about their most "experimental" tracks: You Are, Sleight of Hand, Can't Keep (Riot Act version), Help, Help... Probably most of them come from Binaural and Riot Act. And guess what two albums are often at the bottom of people's list of favorite albums? Yes, these two.
    Usually, when Matt Cameron writes a song (and when this happens, you're almost guaranteed to get an experimental song, I mean experimental for PJ standards at least, like using different time signatures or different sounds/mood than what PJ used us to hear - You Are, Evacuation, Cropduster, In the Moonlight..) most people's reaction is not good.
    I think, unfortunately, PJ knows this, and that is one of the reasons of the descending quality of the last couple albums.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,556
    Jammalambo said:
    No offense, but I don't think that this "Like the title says" line has ever been used less appropriately. Rehashing old music is the less experimental and more lame thing I can think of them doing for a new album.
    Anyway, think about their most "experimental" tracks: You Are, Sleight of Hand, Can't Keep (Riot Act version), Help, Help... Probably most of them come from Binaural and Riot Act. And guess what two albums are often at the bottom of people's list of favorite albums? Yes, these two.
    Usually, when Matt Cameron writes a song (and when this happens, you're almost guaranteed to get an experimental song, I mean experimental for PJ standards at least, like using different time signatures or different sounds/mood than what PJ used us to hear - You Are, Evacuation, Cropduster, In the Moonlight..) most people's reaction is not good.
    I think, unfortunately, PJ knows this, and that is one of the reasons of the descending quality of the last couple albums.
      I agree with the highlighted part. They've already done it with Jeremy, and that is interesting... just right for a holiday single. I certainly wouldn't want a whole album like that. 
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  • JammalamboJammalambo Posts: 1,321
    PJ_Soul said:
    Jammalambo said:
    No offense, but I don't think that this "Like the title says" line has ever been used less appropriately. Rehashing old music is the less experimental and more lame thing I can think of them doing for a new album.
    Anyway, think about their most "experimental" tracks: You Are, Sleight of Hand, Can't Keep (Riot Act version), Help, Help... Probably most of them come from Binaural and Riot Act. And guess what two albums are often at the bottom of people's list of favorite albums? Yes, these two.
    Usually, when Matt Cameron writes a song (and when this happens, you're almost guaranteed to get an experimental song, I mean experimental for PJ standards at least, like using different time signatures or different sounds/mood than what PJ used us to hear - You Are, Evacuation, Cropduster, In the Moonlight..) most people's reaction is not good.
    I think, unfortunately, PJ knows this, and that is one of the reasons of the descending quality of the last couple albums.
      I agree with the highlighted part. They've already done it with Jeremy, and that is interesting... just right for a holiday single. I certainly wouldn't want a whole album like that. 
    Yes. I guess what I was trying to say is: does people really want an experimental album, when their most uncommon songs are often also their less preferred songs (by most fans)?
  • BrainofBGABrainofBGA Australia Posts: 4,541
    Just give us their version of the Beatles White Album. Simples! 
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  • ShynerShyner Posts: 1,226
    Give us double platinum
  • iOnlyownMymindiOnlyownMymind Posts: 2,951
    elwayvedder said:
    i just want a new album. it could be EV burping the alphabet
    I respectfully disagree.  This band is Pearl Jam. I'd rather them not release anything at all then something truly terrible.
  • RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,228
    Funny the mention of evacuation above... I was just listening to a 2000 boot from Seattle on my drive home and had to listen to that aural shart.  Please don’t fart and shit in my ears on the next album.  Please don’t make it binaural 2.
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  • iOnlyownMymindiOnlyownMymind Posts: 2,951
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    Funny the mention of evacuation above... I was just listening to a 2000 boot from Seattle on my drive home and had to listen to that aural shart.  Please don’t fart and shit in my ears on the next album.  Please don’t make it binaural 2.
    I'm not a fan of the song either, but as a whole I feel Binaural is a far superior album to any of the last 3 that have come out.
  • JammalamboJammalambo Posts: 1,321
    edited January 2018
    iOnlyownMymind said:
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    Funny the mention of evacuation above... I was just listening to a 2000 boot from Seattle on my drive home and had to listen to that aural shart.  Please don’t fart and shit in my ears on the next album.  Please don’t make it binaural 2.
    I'm not a fan of the song either, but as a whole I feel Binaural is a far superior album to any of the last 3 that have come out.
    pure truth. again, pure truth.

    ps: Evacuation may not be for everyone, but... shit and farting? :angry:
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,556
    edited January 2018
    iOnlyownMymind said:
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    Funny the mention of evacuation above... I was just listening to a 2000 boot from Seattle on my drive home and had to listen to that aural shart.  Please don’t fart and shit in my ears on the next album.  Please don’t make it binaural 2.
    I'm not a fan of the song either, but as a whole I feel Binaural is a far superior album to any of the last 3 that have come out.
    I think Binaural is their very best album (by a hair). Evacuation isn't great, but I still think it's pretty okay. It's the one not GREAT song on that whole album, but I think it's at least kind of different and that it fits with the flow of the album.
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,746
    edited January 2018
    PJ_Soul said:
    iOnlyownMymind said:
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    Funny the mention of evacuation above... I was just listening to a 2000 boot from Seattle on my drive home and had to listen to that aural shart.  Please don’t fart and shit in my ears on the next album.  Please don’t make it binaural 2.
    I'm not a fan of the song either, but as a whole I feel Binaural is a far superior album to any of the last 3 that have come out.
    I think Binaural is their very best album (by a hair). Evacuation isn't great, but I still think it's pretty okay. It's the one not GREAT song on that whole album, but I think it's at least kind of different and that it fits with the flow of the album.
    I must have gotten a different version of binaural.
    I like it overall, but just like any PJ album there's 3-4 songs I skip. The difference is there aren't 3-4 songs that blow me away, the rest are just good, not mind-blowing good.
    For me there's pre-Yield and post-Yield. Nother after yield (starting with Binaural) matched the quality of Yield or anything before it.
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  • RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,228
    Aural shart was of course me screwing around.  But evacuation is hard to take.  Grievance is another from that album that is a tough one for me.  I think we all have differing opinions of course, but just look at album sales for a good stat- of course it’s a popularity thing, but their weakest selling albums are Binaural and RA- and I tend to
    understand why.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,556
    edited January 2018
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    Aural shart was of course me screwing around.  But evacuation is hard to take.  Grievance is another from that album that is a tough one for me.  I think we all have differing opinions of course, but just look at album sales for a good stat- of course it’s a popularity thing, but their weakest selling albums are Binaural and RA- and I tend to
    understand why.
    I tend not to. When Sirens is considered a radio hit I know that the general public is not a good measure of great music.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • JammalamboJammalambo Posts: 1,321
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    Aural shart was of course me screwing around.  But evacuation is hard to take.  Grievance is another from that album that is a tough one for me.  I think we all have differing opinions of course, but just look at album sales for a good stat- of course it’s a popularity thing, but their weakest selling albums are Binaural and RA- and I tend to
    understand why.
    Cause people have shitty taste in music?
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