Louis CK accused of sexual misconduct

dignin

Wma31394 said:

my2hands said:

You guys never choked the chicken at the Thanksgiving table after a few glasses of red? 

Fucking losers lol

Pretty sure you meant "waxing your dolphin"...

I heard "milk the moose".

DarthMaeglin

As deplorable as his actions were, I will give him some credit for owning what he’s done, in contrast to many/most of those facing similar allegations. (Sorry, don’t know how to post links on my phone, but his statement is breaking news right now.)

dignin

DarthMaeglin said:

As deplorable as his actions were, I will give him some credit for owning what he’s done, in contrast to many/most of those facing similar allegations. (Sorry, don’t know how to post links on my phone, but his statement is breaking news right now.)

Louis C.K. breaks silence: 'These stories are true'

 

http://ew.com/tv/2017/11/10/louis-c-k-statement/

RunIntoTheRain

DarthMaeglin said:

As deplorable as his actions were, I will give him some credit for owning what he’s done, in contrast to many/most of those facing similar allegations. (Sorry, don’t know how to post links on my phone, but his statement is breaking news right now.)

I agree.

rgambs

That's about the best statement he could have made.

JimmyV

Some credit, yes, but not much. He's owning what he did only because he was outed. Let's not praise him too much.

Cliffy6745

And no apologies, obviously for legal reasons, but still...

benjs

JimmyV said:

Some credit, yes, but not much. He's owning what he did only because he was outed. Let's not praise him too much.

Not to mention that at the bottom of the article, it says that he denied the allegations last year. I wouldn't exactly call it courageous to wait until you can no longer defend yourself, before admitting your wrongdoings. 

Kat

It's about power. 

Why Men Masturbate In Front Of Women Without Their Consent

A therapist and psychoanalyst discuss the disturbing pattern in light of the allegations raised against Louis C.K.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/masturbation-sexual-assault_us_5a04dcc4e4b05673aa584c89?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

HughFreakingDillon

benjs said:

JimmyV said:

Some credit, yes, but not much. He's owning what he did only because he was outed. Let's not praise him too much.

Not to mention that at the bottom of the article, it says that he denied the allegations last year. I wouldn't exactly call it courageous to wait until you can no longer defend yourself, before admitting your wrongdoings. 

well, he could have continued to deny it. but he didn't. and he did so quite candidly. anyone in his situation, i would imagine, would deny the allegations in hopes they'd go away. that's not abnormal. (the action are-I hope-but denial is not). 

it's still fucking gross, but he has handled it the best out of the lot so far. 

CM189191

Is there where I come to say I never found Louis CK all that funny?

my prediction: entering rehab in 5...4...3....2....

DarthMaeglin

Please don’t misunderstand me, I’m by no means praising him, just giving him a smidgen of credit for (mostly?) owning his actions. He never should have put himself in this position, as I firmly believe no man worthy of his word and his balls does what he did.

PJ_Soul

tbergs said:

I think we've allowed context to play too much of a part in determining if what happened was criminal. The only difference is which situations will realistically result in charges if prosecution was attempted. If I'm at a college keg party and some perv drunk takes out his cock to wank in front of people, very unlikely that ever gets regarded as a crime just because of the culture that is associated with college parties. Outside of that, I don't think there would ever be a case that I couldn't see turning in to something more if pressed. It's a violation upon anyone who was unwillingly exposed to the act and behavior.

Maybe some of you have watched too much porn and it's permeated your sense of sexual acceptability. Are you truly considering how this situation plays out? A male you have no sexual interest in or relationship with, strips naked and begins stroking himself without your approval. You observe him staring at you while he performs the act, most likely making some sort of sexual noises (whether from his body or mouth) while the sweat beads up and he gets fully aroused. You're going to laugh at that? I guess good for you, but understand that a lot of women, and men, are not going to and will be traumatized because that image will remain with them as well as the sounds, smells and every other sensory memory (and it's those that stick with you most).

I am guessing those that don't find this traumatizing have never worked with victims of sexual misconduct or behavior. I believe PJ Soul works at a college of some type so I am surprised by the response because this type of behavior ties in very closely to VAWA and the Title IX provisions that we're pushed for under Obama. I know, Canada maybe isn't as restrictive on this stuff, but there has been a cultural shift going on for the past 7 years that has focused a lot on changing and correcting behavior like this.

People like this aren't normal and shouldn't be given a pass at any point! It doesn't matter when it happened. The fact that people just laughed at them and walked away just reinforced with them that it wasn't a big deal and that's what's fucked up.

I didn't say it was normal, nor that it should be given a pass. I get the feeling I have been unable to express myself clearly if that is the impression I've made. Oh, and I have not been overexposed to porn, lol. I'm pretty sure I have had a normal exposure to porn for my gender and age group. No seriously... I actually do not favour porn, for several reasons.
 
Your comment about where I work is very strange and disturbing to me. What exactly are you trying to say?? That I support rape culture?!

FYI, I have been a victim myself, many times, so yeah, I guess I understand it pretty fucking well.

brianlux

Louis, Spacey, Weinstein, etc., etc. What's the matter with these people?  Too much fame, too much power, too much b.s.  Waste of time, the whole bunch. 

Wma31394

Hes fodder scum 

mickeyrat

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/11/11/gal-gadot-wont-make-wonder-woman-sequel-unless-brett-ratner-is-out.html

HughFreakingDillon

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/13/opinions/life-vs-art-louis-ck-michael-weiss-opinion/index.html

rgambs

I know this is late, but am I the only one who cares less about deviance and disgusting behaviour from artists than others like politicians?  Obviously, wrong is wrong, and victims are victims either way, but I don't feel as betrayed on a personal level.

I guess I just am able to separate the art and ent from the artist and entertainer better than I am able to separate the behaviour of an official from their official business.
Must be all the Oscar Wilde I read as an adolescent.

oftenreading

rgambs said:

I know this is late, but am I the only one who cares less about deviance and disgusting behaviour from artists than others like politicians?  Obviously, wrong is wrong, and victims are victims either way, but I don't feel as betrayed on a personal level.

I guess I just am able to separate the art and ent from the artist and entertainer better than I am able to separate the behaviour of an official from their official business.
Must be all the Oscar Wilde I read as an adolescent.

I agree there can be a difference. When people run on a platform that emphasizes their fitness for office based on so-called values and personal morality, and then turn out to have done what they supposedly stand against, then to me it's much more serious than an artist with no claim to moral superiority and, most importantly, no ability to adversely affect public policy.

Malroth

I am reminded of one of his bits.

https://youtu.be/XU3IM5pWTcc