Wildfire(s) Out West

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  • sheckyshecky San Francisco Posts: 2,295

  • sheckyshecky San Francisco Posts: 2,295

  • tbergstbergs Posts: 10,031
    shecky said:
    tbergs said:
    Aaah, looking forward to bullshit like the above for the next 4 years. Piece of shit POTUS who makes up shit constantly and followers like above who repost memes and screen grabs as facts to paint a delusional narrative. 

    Do us all a favor, stick to the politics threads with this dreck @shecky. Be part of the solution, not the problem.


    We do agree on one thing - President Biden IS a POS. By the way, I live and pay high taxes in California and I have family in L.A.
    The difference is, I don't care if you call Biden a POS, he's not my guy. He's a president who has made good and bad decisions.

    I have no trust in anything you share being true, but ok, what's your point about your ties to CA? Climate change is making hurricanes, wildfires (when not stated by morons) and natural disasters more common. Instead of investing in changing our impact on the environment, the next Admin is going to lower corporate taxes, ease environmental regulations and rape land and see dry for resources. How's that going to play out do you think? Your reference to that stupid Trump statement tells me you don't get out into nature much or understand the ecosystem. Maybe move to Greenland and see if you can stake your homestead claim in the new frontier once the Trump army seizes it for America.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • sheckyshecky San Francisco Posts: 2,295

    SURE SOUNDS LIKE PRESIDENT TRUMP IS QUITE EDUCATED ON THE IMPORTANT TOPIC OF FOREST MANAGEMENT.
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,846
    shecky said:

    SURE SOUNDS LIKE PRESIDENT TRUMP IS QUITE EDUCATED ON THE IMPORTANT TOPIC OF FOREST MANAGEMENT.
    How in the actual fuck would forest management help a fire that started in a residential area? 
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 10,031
    shecky said:

    SURE SOUNDS LIKE PRESIDENT TRUMP IS QUITE EDUCATED ON THE IMPORTANT TOPIC OF FOREST MANAGEMENT.
    How in the actual fuck would forest management help a fire that started in a residential area? 
    Well duh, it wouldn't spread. It would just stop. Maybe even build walls around the forests too. That's a solution no one is talking about. 
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,846
    tbergs said:
    shecky said:

    SURE SOUNDS LIKE PRESIDENT TRUMP IS QUITE EDUCATED ON THE IMPORTANT TOPIC OF FOREST MANAGEMENT.
    How in the actual fuck would forest management help a fire that started in a residential area? 
    Well duh, it wouldn't spread. It would just stop. Maybe even build walls around the forests too. That's a solution no one is talking about. 
    Big beautiful walls and California's going to pay for them

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  • lindamarie73lindamarie73 Posts: 491
    shecky said:

    I gotta say, I sure am gonna miss some things about the drooling Veg in charge…He really needs to be out of to pasture…

    Being in the path of a wildfire was one of the scariest experiences in my life out West a few years ago in Glacier National Park, I sure hope they can contain this sucker…the big blow they are experiencing too really is problematic..
  • sheckyshecky San Francisco Posts: 2,295
    shecky said:

    SURE SOUNDS LIKE PRESIDENT TRUMP IS QUITE EDUCATED ON THE IMPORTANT TOPIC OF FOREST MANAGEMENT.
    How in the actual fuck would forest management help a fire that started in a residential area? 
    I guess you've never been to Pacific Palisades. It's next to the Santa Monica Mountains, and is a very rustic area.
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,418
    shecky said:

    SURE SOUNDS LIKE PRESIDENT TRUMP IS QUITE EDUCATED ON THE IMPORTANT TOPIC OF FOREST MANAGEMENT.
    I agree. We as a country should be more like Finland. 
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,079
    shecky said:
    shecky said:

    SURE SOUNDS LIKE PRESIDENT TRUMP IS QUITE EDUCATED ON THE IMPORTANT TOPIC OF FOREST MANAGEMENT.
    How in the actual fuck would forest management help a fire that started in a residential area? 
    I guess you've never been to Pacific Palisades. It's next to the Santa Monica Mountains, and is a very rustic area.
    I bet you long for the days of Swarzenegger where there were no wildfires since he was a republican. Oh wait...there was a shitload
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,254
    California didn't vote for President Trump. Let it burn.
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  • sheckyshecky San Francisco Posts: 2,295
    Five dead, so far.
  • ChoccoloccotideChoccoloccotide A grass shack nailed to a pinewood floor Posts: 1,236
    shecky said:
    tbergs said:
    Aaah, looking forward to bullshit like the above for the next 4 years. Piece of shit POTUS who makes up shit constantly and followers like above who repost memes and screen grabs as facts to paint a delusional narrative. 

    Do us all a favor, stick to the politics threads with this dreck @shecky. Be part of the solution, not the problem.


    We do agree on one thing - President Biden IS a POS. By the way, I live and pay high taxes in California and I have family in L.A.
    I hope your family members are safe Sheck.  God bless.
  • sheckyshecky San Francisco Posts: 2,295
    shecky said:
    tbergs said:
    Aaah, looking forward to bullshit like the above for the next 4 years. Piece of shit POTUS who makes up shit constantly and followers like above who repost memes and screen grabs as facts to paint a delusional narrative. 

    Do us all a favor, stick to the politics threads with this dreck @shecky. Be part of the solution, not the problem.


    We do agree on one thing - President Biden IS a POS. By the way, I live and pay high taxes in California and I have family in L.A.
    I hope your family members are safe Sheck.  God bless.
    Thank you, Chocco, I appreciate it. My brother lives 3 miles from the current evacuation line so, if he and his family have to leave, I will drive down and try to get through to help.
    My sister and her family live 30 miles from there and she said the smoke is almost intolerable.
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,597
    edited January 9
    Politicize  regarding wildfires.  Anyone who does that is demonstrating a total lack of empathy and understanding of what it is like to have your property, animals, or you own life in jeopardy (I've been there).
    Low bar as usual.

    Post edited by brianlux on
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  • sheckyshecky San Francisco Posts: 2,295
    Facts are facts.
    I don't know if you live in California or not, but I do. And I witness the incompetence of our government officials on a daily basis.
    Currently, five people have needlessly died, and over 1,000 structures (primarily homes) have been destroyed due to this incompetence.
    So I'm very sorry, but just because you begin a thread does not give you the authority to censor other members' opinions. Good evening.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,070
    I really can't believe that these fires are now being presented as the fault of the government, lol. What a shithole the AMT has become.
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,959
    PJ_Soul said:
    I really can't believe that these fires are now being presented as the fault of the government, lol. What a shithole the AMT has become.
    You can be sure if the 🍊 🤡 was in office they would still be blaming 1 or more of the Bidens.

    Meanwhole chaya raichik thinks this is a good time for this..

  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,846
    Another fire now in Hollywood Hills.  :s   
  • sheckyshecky San Francisco Posts: 2,295
    Another fire now in Hollywood Hills.  :s   
    This fire near the giant Hollywood sign is almost certainly arson. There are no other wildfires anywhere near it tonight. 
  • sheckyshecky San Francisco Posts: 2,295

    By Brian Freeman    |   Wednesday, 08 January 2025 11:52 AM EST

    Rep. Ryan Zinke, R-Mont., blamed officials in California for the current wildfires ravaging the area around Los Angeles, telling Newsmax on Wednesday that they have not been managing the forests correctly for a long time.

    Appearing on "Wake Up America", the Montana Republican said that "wildfires are indicative of not managing for years. These wildfires now are large scale, taking up a lot of property, ruining people's lives, and they're dangerous. But we have to go back to management of the forest," adding "what a catastrophe in California. Yet another disaster."

    Zinke was very critical of California officials for what he determined was their lack of forest management that could help possibly control these fires during his tenure as secretary of the interior in President Donald Trump's first term.

    The congressman explained that, as far as wildfires go, it doesn't matter what one's position is on "climate change, yes or no, whether you are a believer, an advocate, or a zealot. The bottom line is it doesn't matter if you don't manage your forest. Because if the climate is changing, you have to redouble your efforts to make sure you manage the forests. That means diversity of species, removing the dead and dying firewood."

    Zinke also pointed out that it was necessary to "look at the urban sprawl. Houses are in places where they haven't been in the last few years," and that has to be taken into consideration when trying to prevent these wildfires.

  • tbergstbergs Posts: 10,031
    In one vein, there's too much government, but when it's convenient, the government isn't doing enough. It's gotta be hard pogoing back and forth on your stance. Nice job to count chocola and shrek though, they've got it down.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • ZodZod Posts: 10,704
    shecky said:

    By Brian Freeman    |   Wednesday, 08 January 2025 11:52 AM EST

    Rep. Ryan Zinke, R-Mont., blamed officials in California for the current wildfires ravaging the area around Los Angeles, telling Newsmax on Wednesday that they have not been managing the forests correctly for a long time.

    Appearing on "Wake Up America", the Montana Republican said that "wildfires are indicative of not managing for years. These wildfires now are large scale, taking up a lot of property, ruining people's lives, and they're dangerous. But we have to go back to management of the forest," adding "what a catastrophe in California. Yet another disaster."

    Zinke was very critical of California officials for what he determined was their lack of forest management that could help possibly control these fires during his tenure as secretary of the interior in President Donald Trump's first term.

    The congressman explained that, as far as wildfires go, it doesn't matter what one's position is on "climate change, yes or no, whether you are a believer, an advocate, or a zealot. The bottom line is it doesn't matter if you don't manage your forest. Because if the climate is changing, you have to redouble your efforts to make sure you manage the forests. That means diversity of species, removing the dead and dying firewood."

    Zinke also pointed out that it was necessary to "look at the urban sprawl. Houses are in places where they haven't been in the last few years," and that has to be taken into consideration when trying to prevent these wildfires.


    We have similar issues here in BC.  From what I gather doing prescribes fires to burn out the underbrush used to be a thing.  We also have the problem with all the logging, where trees are replaced with a single species to enhance logging.    I don't think it helps that massive wildfires we get every summer now :(
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,597
    shecky said:
    brianlux said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I really can't believe that these fires are now being presented as the fault of the government, lol. What a shithole the AMT has become.
    Yeah, blaming the government on these fires displays an extreme amount of ignorance regarding wildfires, history, climate, and human impact on environment.  I know a number of elementary school aged children who understand what is going on here better than some of the people posting on this thread.
    AMT really has become a cesspool.   Remember when this place had a lot of really decent discussions about current events, environment, and politics?  No more.  I'm far more interested in seeing what's new on The Porch, AET, and Other Music these days.  If it weren't for the fact that I live in the western America/ California and live close to where fires as big as or bigger than these current SoCal fires have occurred (includingd, among others, the Caldor, Mosquito, King, and Cleveland fires), and care about what is happening right now, I wouldn't bother posting on AMT at this point.   
    So, you live in Placer County yet you have no understanding of just how important forest management, especially fuel reduction, is to preventing large-scale wildfires? Same goes for the State Parks and forests in the more urban areas of California - like Pacific Palisades. That's government's responsibilty to a large degree and they are failing at it.

    Jesus, man, you don't know where I live (I don't know where you got Placer County?), you don't know what I know or who I know.  And you shouldn't be talking about me here anyway, so would you please just shut the fuck up and go away?
    Thank you.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,070
    edited January 9
    shecky said:
    Another fire now in Hollywood Hills.  :s   
    This fire near the giant Hollywood sign is almost certainly arson. There are no other wildfires anywhere near it tonight. 
    Huh?? Burning embers can float for miles in those conditions and the Hills are literally right in the middle of all the other fires. It's not arson. I would have been surprised if that fire hadn't started. It was inevitable. Why would you even say this?

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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 17,271
    shecky said:
    Another fire now in Hollywood Hills.  :s   
    This fire near the giant Hollywood sign is almost certainly arson. There are no other wildfires anywhere near it tonight. 
    Damn that Newsom.
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