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  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,593
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkHjFzw1TUg
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,760
    It's art.
    From my perspective, like music, there is no such thing as bad art.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,887
    brianlux said:
    It's art.
    From my perspective, like music, there is no such thing as bad art.
    I'm with you Brian. I'm glad at least one other person sees it from that perspective. All of these outraged, disgusted people were starting to make me feel like a ghoul or something. :lol:
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    PJ_Soul said:
    brianlux said:
    It's art.
    From my perspective, like music, there is no such thing as bad art.
    I'm with you Brian. I'm glad at least one other person sees it from that perspective. All of these outraged, disgusted people were starting to make me feel like a ghoul or something. :lol:
    Normally I would agree with that, but I'm not convinced they conceptualized it as art. To me, it seems more akin to Howard Stern shock jock type behaviour than a genuine attempt to create subversive or provocative art. 
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,179
    brianlux said:
    It's art.
    From my perspective, like music, there is no such thing as bad art.
    So this is art too?

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,066
    mcgruff10 said:
    brianlux said:
    It's art.
    From my perspective, like music, there is no such thing as bad art.
    So this is art too?

    Is someone claiming it as such? Does the creator have any artist's credentials? Looks like a Halloween display or more likely an opposing team of UCLA's tailgate or game day Saturday display. I wouldn't call it art, no. But someone else might.
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,760
    mcgruff10 said:
    brianlux said:
    It's art.
    From my perspective, like music, there is no such thing as bad art.
    So this is art too?

    Much as I hate to admit it, I would say yes.  Do I like it?  No.  Is it useful for telling me where this person's head is at?  Absolutely!  It reveals much.  Just like it is more wise to read works like Mein Kampf to learn and be warned rather than for instruction, this kind of low grade art can be viewed as a way of revealing a persons inner nature, whatever it may be.

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  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,066
    Smellyman said:
    Hypocrisy or bias?
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  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Smellyman said:
    Hypocrisy or bias?
    Any number of words could be used.

    And I have the best words
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,000
    i don't think you can just call anything art so you can hide behind that veil. that's cheap. it wasn't art. it was shock value in print. 
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,760
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    i don't think you can just call anything art so you can hide behind that veil. that's cheap. it wasn't art. it was shock value in print. 
    Another image, if for no other reason than to keep things going here:


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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,066
    Piss Christ, now that was art.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,887
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    i don't think you can just call anything art so you can hide behind that veil. that's cheap. it wasn't art. it was shock value in print. 
    I don't either. But I think that photo we're discussing is quite clearly art. Professional photography shoot, a clear interpretive message that was deliberate, etc. It was definitely about shock value, but it was also art. Shock value in print is almost always also art IMO.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,703
    This isn't/wasn't  a "threat" folks...give it a rest.  It was a stupid stunt.  It started as a joke related to the "had blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever" remarks that President dipshit made.


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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,703
    and....honestly I don't think anyone in his family would be too upset if he disappeared.  His wife doesn't even want to hold his tiny hand.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    I think this shows what we really are dealing with.  It illustrates the vile ugly sleazebag creeps that are out there.

    #resist, right?
  • unsung
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    2-feign-reluctance said:
    Ugh, poor form Kathy. I feel for Trump's kid if he saw that.
    Supposedly he did, and was traumatized.  The left sure likes to harass this ten year old.
  • RiotZact
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    unsung said:
    2-feign-reluctance said:
    Ugh, poor form Kathy. I feel for Trump's kid if he saw that.
    Supposedly he did, and was traumatized.  The left sure likes to harass this ten year old.
    Yep, the entire "left". Every single one of us.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    ledvedderman said:
    Classic unsung; activates the bomb and then gets the hell out of town before it blows up. 

    Kathy Griffin is disgusting. This was disgusting. No one on the credible left is applauding this. I've already wasted enough energy on this. 

    The classic unsung that has to work to support this pathetic State.  After yesterday I have had enough.
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