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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    edited May 2017
    mcgruff10 said:
    unsung said:
    unsung said:
    Quick...change your facebook profile pics, that'll solve it.
    so tell us, how do you solve it?
    Stop importing them.  This person waited for children to be released from inside according to witnesses.  Children.

    Stop being lovey dovey over people that wish to do us harm.
    the bomber was born in the UK. 
    Born in the UK.  Father left to go back to Libya...kid spend 3 weeks in Libya just before proving without a shadow of a doubt that he is a cowardly piece of shit.  Let's not pretend this is a UK thing....in fact I don;t think its even a country thing,
    let's not pretend it's an immigrant problem. most attacks since 9/11 have been perpetrated by citizens of the country they attacked. 
    They seem to become radicalized after visiting certain countries like Syria. Maybe ban citizens from visiting these countries?
    I don't think it's quite that simple. I doubt you turn into a jihadist over your vacation. it was more likely something he had been taught for years by his relatives. 
    Very true. so newspapers reported that the manchester bomber became radicalized in syria after three weeks....does that mean he got his final training or his mission?
    Post edited by mcgruff10 on
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,336
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    unsung said:
    unsung said:
    Quick...change your facebook profile pics, that'll solve it.
    so tell us, how do you solve it?
    Stop importing them.  This person waited for children to be released from inside according to witnesses.  Children.

    Stop being lovey dovey over people that wish to do us harm.
    the bomber was born in the UK. 
    Born in the UK.  Father left to go back to Libya...kid spend 3 weeks in Libya just before proving without a shadow of a doubt that he is a cowardly piece of shit.  Let's not pretend this is a UK thing....in fact I don;t think its even a country thing,
    let's not pretend it's an immigrant problem. most attacks since 9/11 have been perpetrated by citizens of the country they attacked. 
    They seem to become radicalized after visiting certain countries like Syria. Maybe ban citizens from visiting these countries?
    I don't think it's quite that simple. I doubt you turn into a jihadist over your vacation. it was more likely something he had been taught for years by his relatives. 
    Very true. so newspapers reported that the manchester bomber became radicalized in syria after three weeks....does that mean he got his final training or his mission?
    I couldn't imagine being ok with the fact that my kid was going to die and kill other kids...

    Were the parents aware?!?
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    edited May 2017
    So feminists in pink pussy hats are to blame for terrorism? Well shit, that changes things!

    LOL 


  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    unsung said:
    unsung said:
    Quick...change your facebook profile pics, that'll solve it.
    so tell us, how do you solve it?
    Stop importing them.  This person waited for children to be released from inside according to witnesses.  Children.

    Stop being lovey dovey over people that wish to do us harm.
    the bomber was born in the UK. 
    Born in the UK.  Father left to go back to Libya...kid spend 3 weeks in Libya just before proving without a shadow of a doubt that he is a cowardly piece of shit.  Let's not pretend this is a UK thing....in fact I don;t think its even a country thing,
    let's not pretend it's an immigrant problem. most attacks since 9/11 have been perpetrated by citizens of the country they attacked. 
    They seem to become radicalized after visiting certain countries like Syria. Maybe ban citizens from visiting these countries?
    I don't think it's quite that simple. I doubt you turn into a jihadist over your vacation. it was more likely something he had been taught for years by his relatives. 
    Very true. so newspapers reported that the manchester bomber became radicalized in syria after three weeks....does that mean he got his final training or his mission?
    I couldn't imagine being ok with the fact that my kid was going to die and kill other kids...

    Were the parents aware?!?
    it's impossible to understand for any rational human being. 
    Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall




  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,654
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    unsung said:
    unsung said:
    Quick...change your facebook profile pics, that'll solve it.
    so tell us, how do you solve it?
    Stop importing them.  This person waited for children to be released from inside according to witnesses.  Children.

    Stop being lovey dovey over people that wish to do us harm.
    the bomber was born in the UK. 
    Born in the UK.  Father left to go back to Libya...kid spend 3 weeks in Libya just before proving without a shadow of a doubt that he is a cowardly piece of shit.  Let's not pretend this is a UK thing....in fact I don;t think its even a country thing,
    let's not pretend it's an immigrant problem. most attacks since 9/11 have been perpetrated by citizens of the country they attacked. 
    They seem to become radicalized after visiting certain countries like Syria. Maybe ban citizens from visiting these countries?
    I don't think it's quite that simple. I doubt you turn into a jihadist over your vacation. it was more likely something he had been taught for years by his relatives. 
    Very true. so newspapers reported that the manchester bomber became radicalized in syria after three weeks....does that mean he got his final training or his mission?
    I couldn't imagine being ok with the fact that my kid was going to die and kill other kids...

    Were the parents aware?!?
    Sounds like the whole family was in on it. The men, anyway. The brother and dad of the bomber were apparently closely involved in the plot. Hours of family fun.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,289
    I fully support "Evil Losers" being used in lieu of terrorists from this point moving forward
    Be Excellent To Each Other
    Party On, Dudes!
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    I'm struggling to see a relevant connection between feminist protesters in America and a terrorist attack in the UK???  How does that make sense.
    I'm also wondering when @dmaradona10 is going to call for Ivanka to give that 100mill back to Saudi Arabia, that's about equally as relevant to the conversation lol
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    riley540 said:
    It's impossible to prove, ot disprove god. 
    It shouldn't be necessary.  At all.
    Any God worth his salt would say, "Dudes, what the fuck is up with the war and the rape and the murder, the starving children, the terrorism, and the poverty?? Get your shit together!"

    The fact that God hasn't done so is proof.  Proof that God doesn't exist, or proof that if God exists, God is shitty.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,396
    rgambs said:
    riley540 said:
    It's impossible to prove, ot disprove god. 
    It shouldn't be necessary.  At all.
    Any God worth his salt would say, "Dudes, what the fuck is up with the war and the rape and the murder, the starving children, the terrorism, and the poverty?? Get your shit together!"

    The fact that God hasn't done so is proof.  Proof that God doesn't exist, or proof that if God exists, God is shitty.
    There's more options than that. Free will; the best and worst gift humans were given. If we wish to destroy ourselves, so be it. That's not proof or disproof of god.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • jnimhaoileoin
    jnimhaoileoin Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 2,682
    PJ_Soul said:l
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    unsung said:
    unsung said:
    Quick...change your facebook profile pics, that'll solve it.
    so tell us, how do you solve it?
    Stop importing them.  This person waited for children to be released from inside according to witnesses.  Children.

    Stop being lovey dovey over people that wish to do us harm.
    the bomber was born in the UK. 
    Born in the UK.  Father left to go back to Libya...kid spend 3 weeks in Libya just before proving without a shadow of a doubt that he is a cowardly piece of shit.  Let's not pretend this is a UK thing....in fact I don;t think its even a country thing,
    let's not pretend it's an immigrant problem. most attacks since 9/11 have been perpetrated by citizens of the country they attacked. 
    They seem to become radicalized after visiting certain countries like Syria. Maybe ban citizens from visiting these countries?
    I don't think it's quite that simple. I doubt you turn into a jihadist over your vacation. it was more likely something he had been taught for years by his relatives. 
    Very true. so newspapers reported that the manchester bomber became radicalized in syria after three weeks....does that mean he got his final training or his mission?
    I couldn't imagine being ok with the fact that my kid was going to die and kill other kids...

    Were the parents aware?!?
    Sounds like the whole family was in on it. The men, anyway. The brother and dad of the bomber were apparently closely involved in the plot. Hours of family fun.
    Where on earth did you get your information? So far what has been said is that his father was known to be completely opposed to ISIS! 
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    PJ_Soul said:l
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    unsung said:
    unsung said:
    Quick...change your facebook profile pics, that'll solve it.
    so tell us, how do you solve it?
    Stop importing them.  This person waited for children to be released from inside according to witnesses.  Children.

    Stop being lovey dovey over people that wish to do us harm.
    the bomber was born in the UK. 
    Born in the UK.  Father left to go back to Libya...kid spend 3 weeks in Libya just before proving without a shadow of a doubt that he is a cowardly piece of shit.  Let's not pretend this is a UK thing....in fact I don;t think its even a country thing,
    let's not pretend it's an immigrant problem. most attacks since 9/11 have been perpetrated by citizens of the country they attacked. 
    They seem to become radicalized after visiting certain countries like Syria. Maybe ban citizens from visiting these countries?
    I don't think it's quite that simple. I doubt you turn into a jihadist over your vacation. it was more likely something he had been taught for years by his relatives. 
    Very true. so newspapers reported that the manchester bomber became radicalized in syria after three weeks....does that mean he got his final training or his mission?
    I couldn't imagine being ok with the fact that my kid was going to die and kill other kids...

    Were the parents aware?!?
    Sounds like the whole family was in on it. The men, anyway. The brother and dad of the bomber were apparently closely involved in the plot. Hours of family fun.
    Where on earth did you get your information? So far what has been said is that his father was known to be completely opposed to ISIS! 
    BBC just said they arrested the whole lot of 'em
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,538
    rgambs said:
    I'm struggling to see a relevant connection between feminist protesters in America and a terrorist attack in the UK???  How does that make sense.
    I'm also wondering when @dmaradona10 is going to call for Ivanka to give that 100mill back to Saudi Arabia, that's about equally as relevant to the conversation lol
    It's just an attempt to try and put liberals in a double bind. I think it goes like this: If you support women's rights, speak out against the cheeto dusted yam bragging about grabbing women, and don't want roe v wade overturned, that this runs in opposition to Islam due to the general treatment of women in several countries where the majority are Muslim. They expect feminists to condemn Islam after terrorist attacks, and if you don't you're being hypocritical. 
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    tbergs said:
    rgambs said:
    riley540 said:
    It's impossible to prove, ot disprove god. 
    It shouldn't be necessary.  At all.
    Any God worth his salt would say, "Dudes, what the fuck is up with the war and the rape and the murder, the starving children, the terrorism, and the poverty?? Get your shit together!"

    The fact that God hasn't done so is proof.  Proof that God doesn't exist, or proof that if God exists, God is shitty.
    There's more options than that. Free will; the best and worst gift humans were given. If we wish to destroy ourselves, so be it. That's not proof or disproof of god.
    Sounds like a weak attempt to sidestep God's responsibility. 
    "It's all part of my infinite plan.
    Except if it sucks, then it's human free will.
    Oh yeah, concerning that, I'm giving you free will as an option to torture each other in every conceivable way, and I know you will use it to do just that.  Not my fault, your the one with the free will."

    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    "Oh yeah, almost forgot, I'm calling it a gift so you'd better be thankful, otherwise I will burn and torture you for eternity.
    You're welcome!"
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    I still need to buy my gf one of those pink pussy hats... any suggestions?

    Or is that funding terrorism? LOL

    seriously though, any recommendations?
  • jnimhaoileoin
    jnimhaoileoin Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 2,682
    CM189191 said:
    PJ_Soul said:l
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    unsung said:
    unsung said:
    Quick...change your facebook profile pics, that'll solve it.
    so tell us, how do you solve it?
    Stop importing them.  This person waited for children to be released from inside according to witnesses.  Children.

    Stop being lovey dovey over people that wish to do us harm.
    the bomber was born in the UK. 
    Born in the UK.  Father left to go back to Libya...kid spend 3 weeks in Libya just before proving without a shadow of a doubt that he is a cowardly piece of shit.  Let's not pretend this is a UK thing....in fact I don;t think its even a country thing,
    let's not pretend it's an immigrant problem. most attacks since 9/11 have been perpetrated by citizens of the country they attacked. 
    They seem to become radicalized after visiting certain countries like Syria. Maybe ban citizens from visiting these countries?
    I don't think it's quite that simple. I doubt you turn into a jihadist over your vacation. it was more likely something he had been taught for years by his relatives. 
    Very true. so newspapers reported that the manchester bomber became radicalized in syria after three weeks....does that mean he got his final training or his mission?
    I couldn't imagine being ok with the fact that my kid was going to die and kill other kids...

    Were the parents aware?!?
    Sounds like the whole family was in on it. The men, anyway. The brother and dad of the bomber were apparently closely involved in the plot. Hours of family fun.
    Where on earth did you get your information? So far what has been said is that his father was known to be completely opposed to ISIS! 
    BBC just said they arrested the whole lot of 'em
    Not true, his father and one of his brothers have been detained by militia in Libya. Thus far all reports in UK and Ireland refer to the father as being a vocal opponent of ISIS
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,396
    rgambs said:
    tbergs said:
    rgambs said:
    riley540 said:
    It's impossible to prove, ot disprove god. 
    It shouldn't be necessary.  At all.
    Any God worth his salt would say, "Dudes, what the fuck is up with the war and the rape and the murder, the starving children, the terrorism, and the poverty?? Get your shit together!"

    The fact that God hasn't done so is proof.  Proof that God doesn't exist, or proof that if God exists, God is shitty.
    There's more options than that. Free will; the best and worst gift humans were given. If we wish to destroy ourselves, so be it. That's not proof or disproof of god.
    Sounds like a weak attempt to sidestep God's responsibility. 
    "It's all part of my infinite plan.
    Except if it sucks, then it's human free will.
    Oh yeah, concerning that, I'm giving you free will as an option to torture each other in every conceivable way, and I know you will use it to do just that.  Not my fault, your the one with the free will."

    Why should it be god's or any other higher beings responsibility to play puppet master? I think it's ridiculous for human beings to look at the atrocities that occur in our world and then use that as a reason to proclaim there is no god. That's sidestepping responsibility on our part. I don't see a god so it doesn't exist. Well, anyone here see an atom around them? 

    Think of it this way, you raise your children to be good responsible and kind individuals, but they still won't always make the right choice or do the right thing, even if you helicopter parent and then even less so. Is that god's fault because they are allowed free thought?

    Imagine a god that didn't allow free will, everything you did or said was controlled and measured to an extent to achieve a certain result. Sounds a lot like a dictator, which no one here likes. I guess if we were mindless zombies then there would never be any issues, but you wouldn't know the difference because you wouldn't be allowed to think. Happiness would ensue worldwide.

    Didn't mean to take this to a god conversation, but I think it's important to recognize that without happy we wouldn't know sad. Atrocity is a necessary evil that I wish upon no one, but it serves a purpose. 
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    edited May 2017
    CM189191 said:
    BBC just said they arrested the whole lot of 'em
    Not true, his father and one of his brothers have been detained by militia in Libya. Thus far all reports in UK and Ireland refer to the father as being a vocal opponent of ISIS I wasn't saying it was the BBC that arrested them, that would be ridiculous.

    detained/arrested/potato

    Father and brother of Manchester bomber arrested in Libya
    i hate the new quoting system so much
    Post edited by CM189191 on
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,654
    I think all the other terrible things that happen to people and animals is part of an argument against God. The things that aren't atrocities determined by free will. Drought, famine, horrible disease, devastating natural disasters, human nature ... Seriously, I don't understand how anyone who actually believes in God doesn't hate his guts.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • ISIS likes to take credit for many of the terrorist attacks that happen such as these, but they are often not at the root of these crimes. Many of the domestic variety incidents have been formulated by rat like morons that are blowing up their neighbours in what they think is supporting their faith (the persecution of Muslims in other areas of the earth).
    "My brain's a good brain!"