Terrorist attack in Stockholm, Sweden

Spiritual_Chaos

At least two dead. Truck driving into people. Our prime minister has called it a terrorist attack.

CM189191

Good thing they have free health care.

Spiritual_Chaos

nvm

PJPOWER

Seems to be the trending method as of late...

unsung

Any motive released yet?

BS44325

Sweden's fine guys #fakenews

SVRDhand13

PJPOWER said:

Seems to be the trending method as of late...

It's just too easy. It's quite scary.

cincybearcat

SVRDhand13 said:

PJPOWER said:

Seems to be the trending method as of late...

It's just too easy. It's quite scary.

Yup.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Has it been reported what motivated this terrorist?

jnimhaoileoin

My thoughts are with your people Spiritual_Chaos

PJPOWER

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Has it been reported what motivated this terrorist?

Meets a lot of hallmarks:
1: Not concerned with loss of own life (possible martyrdom?)
2: Targeted crowded place with no specific concern of who they were killing (did not target race, government, any specific groups, just going for a kill count).
3: Used a trending preferred method seen recently by a...specific group.
Not going to say this is logic is conclusive, but it does meet some specific premises tied to certain ideologies.

unsung

Here is an image released of the suspect...wtf?

mcgruff10

Another terrorist attack from the religion of peace.
Prayers to all those effected by this.

Spiritual_Chaos

unsung said:

Here is an image released of the suspect...wtf?

He's been caught.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

mcgruff10 said:

Another terrorist attack from the religion of peace.
Prayers to all those effected by this.

Lol

Get ready for the apologist attack. Prepare for the following questions and subsequent points and you might be able to hold your own:

Do you know how many people die from mosquitoes each year? A few deaths from terrorism is nothing.
Do you know how many people practice the religion of peace... peacefully? These events are outliers.
Do you know that in 1995 Timothy McVeigh blew up a building in Oklahoma? There's just as much Christian terrorism as Islamic terrorism.

PJ_Soul

PJPOWER said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Has it been reported what motivated this terrorist?

Meets a lot of hallmarks:
1: Not concerned with loss of own life (possible martyrdom?)
2: Targeted crowded place with no specific concern of who they were killing (did not target race, government, any specific groups, just going for a kill count).
3: Used a trending preferred method seen recently by a...specific group.
Not going to say this is logic is conclusive, but it does meet some specific premises tied to certain ideologies.

Why are you scared to say Islamic extremists or ISIS? Are you still labouring under the false impression that there are people who aren't willing to admit there is an Islamic extremist/ISIS terrorism problem going on or are apologists for it? (Looks like you're kind of stuck under the same mistaken premise Thirty. Amazing how many people have misread the issue).

mcgruff10

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mcgruff10 said:

Another terrorist attack from the religion of peace.
Prayers to all those effected by this.

Lol

Get ready for the apologist attack. Prepare for the following questions and subsequent points and you might be able to hold your own:

Do you know how many people die from mosquitoes each year? A few deaths from terrorism is nothing.
Do you know how many people practice the religion of peace... peacefully? These events are outliers.
Do you know that in 1995 Timothy McVeigh blew up a building in Oklahoma? There's just as much Christian terrorism as Islamic terrorism.

Lol so true bud.
We need to get beers soon.

Spiritual_Chaos

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mcgruff10 said:

Another terrorist attack from the religion of peace.
Prayers to all those effected by this.

Lol

Get ready for the apologist attack. Prepare for the following questions and subsequent points and you might be able to hold your own:

Do you know how many people die from mosquitoes each year? A few deaths from terrorism is nothing.
Do you know how many people practice the religion of peace... peacefully? These events are outliers.
Do you know that in 1995 Timothy McVeigh blew up a building in Oklahoma? There's just as much Christian terrorism as Islamic terrorism.

What are you trying to say.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mcgruff10 said:

Another terrorist attack from the religion of peace.
Prayers to all those effected by this.

Lol

Get ready for the apologist attack. Prepare for the following questions and subsequent points and you might be able to hold your own:

Do you know how many people die from mosquitoes each year? A few deaths from terrorism is nothing.
Do you know how many people practice the religion of peace... peacefully? These events are outliers.
Do you know that in 1995 Timothy McVeigh blew up a building in Oklahoma? There's just as much Christian terrorism as Islamic terrorism.

What are you trying to say.

I'm trying to say I feel awful for the victims.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

PJ_Soul said:

PJPOWER said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Has it been reported what motivated this terrorist?

Meets a lot of hallmarks:
1: Not concerned with loss of own life (possible martyrdom?)
2: Targeted crowded place with no specific concern of who they were killing (did not target race, government, any specific groups, just going for a kill count).
3: Used a trending preferred method seen recently by a...specific group.
Not going to say this is logic is conclusive, but it does meet some specific premises tied to certain ideologies.

Why are you scared to say Islamic extremists or ISIS? Are you still labouring under the false impression that there are people who aren't willing to admit there is an Islamic extremist/ISIS terrorism problem going on or are apologists for it? (Looks like you're kind of stuck under the same mistaken premise Thirty. Amazing how many people have misread the issue).

Your own thread saw this comment by a very well-versed contributor: "Drop the word "Islamic" from in front of terrorism and just condemn all "terrorism." Something some people only seem to be outraged by, which is when it's conducted by "islamists" or in the name of "Islam." "

I'm not mistaking anything, Soul. But for you to make the comment you did shows how carelessly you discern the perspectives tossed about on this issue. Not everyone is as eager as you to concede the problem for what it is and it's relevancy in our world's current state of affairs.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

mcgruff10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mcgruff10 said:

Another terrorist attack from the religion of peace.
Prayers to all those effected by this.

Lol

Get ready for the apologist attack. Prepare for the following questions and subsequent points and you might be able to hold your own:

Do you know how many people die from mosquitoes each year? A few deaths from terrorism is nothing.
Do you know how many people practice the religion of peace... peacefully? These events are outliers.
Do you know that in 1995 Timothy McVeigh blew up a building in Oklahoma? There's just as much Christian terrorism as Islamic terrorism.

Lol so true bud.
We need to get beers soon.

Agreed (to the beers notion)!

PJ_Soul

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

PJ_Soul said:

PJPOWER said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Has it been reported what motivated this terrorist?

Meets a lot of hallmarks:
1: Not concerned with loss of own life (possible martyrdom?)
2: Targeted crowded place with no specific concern of who they were killing (did not target race, government, any specific groups, just going for a kill count).
3: Used a trending preferred method seen recently by a...specific group.
Not going to say this is logic is conclusive, but it does meet some specific premises tied to certain ideologies.

Why are you scared to say Islamic extremists or ISIS? Are you still labouring under the false impression that there are people who aren't willing to admit there is an Islamic extremist/ISIS terrorism problem going on or are apologists for it? (Looks like you're kind of stuck under the same mistaken premise Thirty. Amazing how many people have misread the issue).

Your own thread saw this comment by a very well-versed contributor: "Drop the word "Islamic" from in front of terrorism and just condemn all "terrorism." Something some people only seem to be outraged by, which is when it's conducted by "islamists" or in the name of "Islam." "

I'm not mistaking anything, Soul. But for you to make the comment you did shows how carelessly you discern the perspectives tossed about on this issue. Not everyone is as eager as you to concede the problem for what it is and it's relevancy in our world's current state of affairs.

Who is the very well verse contributor you're talking About? If one person on the boards says something like that, you feel that this pretty sweeping comment/accusation on your part is appropriate? I think it is you who is carelessly discerning the perspectives tossed about on this issue.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

PJ_Soul said:

PJPOWER said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Has it been reported what motivated this terrorist?

Meets a lot of hallmarks:
1: Not concerned with loss of own life (possible martyrdom?)
2: Targeted crowded place with no specific concern of who they were killing (did not target race, government, any specific groups, just going for a kill count).
3: Used a trending preferred method seen recently by a...specific group.
Not going to say this is logic is conclusive, but it does meet some specific premises tied to certain ideologies.

Why are you scared to say Islamic extremists or ISIS? Are you still labouring under the false impression that there are people who aren't willing to admit there is an Islamic extremist/ISIS terrorism problem going on or are apologists for it? (Looks like you're kind of stuck under the same mistaken premise Thirty. Amazing how many people have misread the issue).

Your own thread saw this comment by a very well-versed contributor: "Drop the word "Islamic" from in front of terrorism and just condemn all "terrorism." Something some people only seem to be outraged by, which is when it's conducted by "islamists" or in the name of "Islam." "

I'm not mistaking anything, Soul. But for you to make the comment you did shows how carelessly you discern the perspectives tossed about on this issue. Not everyone is as eager as you to concede the problem for what it is and it's relevancy in our world's current state of affairs.

Who is the very well verse contributor you're talking About? If one person on the boards says something like that, you feel that this pretty sweeping comment/accusation on your part is appropriate? I think it is you who is carelessly discerning the perspectives tossed about on this issue.

I gave you one example. There's plenty more, but I'm not going back through threads and spelling it out for you.

And I commented on a perspective that exists. I never made a 'sweeping comment/accusation' (as you framed it). Either acknowledge it's there or pretend it isn't. Scruffy knew what I was talking about.

bootlegger10

There have been many discussions on here that the religious right in the USA are just as dangerous as Islamic extremists which is the most silly thought in the history of mankind. Hundreds of thousands of people are dying around the world at the hands of Muslim extremists, and probably 50 people have died in the last ten years by Christian extremists.

Anyway, my takeaway if living in Europe: avoid loitering in large groups near a street, airports, train stations and large events. Understand where the exits are, enjoy the show, and get out. Get checked into the airport as quickly as you can. No reason to take chances.

CM189191

PJ_Soul said:

PJPOWER said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Has it been reported what motivated this terrorist?

Meets a lot of hallmarks:
1: Not concerned with loss of own life (possible martyrdom?)
2: Targeted crowded place with no specific concern of who they were killing (did not target race, government, any specific groups, just going for a kill count).
3: Used a trending preferred method seen recently by a...specific group.
Not going to say this is logic is conclusive, but it does meet some specific premises tied to certain ideologies.

Why are you scared to say Islamic extremists or ISIS? Are you still labouring under the false impression that there are people who aren't willing to admit there is an Islamic extremist/ISIS terrorism problem going on or are apologists for it? (Looks like you're kind of stuck under the same mistaken premise Thirty. Amazing how many people have misread the issue).

I think I'm going to start referring to evangelicals as Christian extremists from now on.

Spiritual_Chaos

bootlegger10 said:

There have been many discussions on here that the religious right in the USA are just as dangerous as Islamic extremists which is the most silly thought in the history of mankind. Hundreds of thousands of people are dying around the world at the hands of Muslim extremists, and probably 50 people have died in the last ten years by Christian extremists.

Anyway, my takeaway if living in Europe: avoid loitering in large groups near a street, airports, train stations and large events. Understand where the exits are, enjoy the show, and get out. Get checked into the airport as quickly as you can. No reason to take chances.

You just described how we should think, visiting the US with all your gun nuts shooting in public places and cops without proper training and/or racial bias.

The wave of terrorist attacks is scary. But Europe is still safe. But obviously, I will think more about it now when it's happend here. Sweden being a very safe and shielded place.

Spiritual_Chaos

An 11-year old girl on her way home from school is one of the victims.

Horrible.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Spiritual_Chaos said:

An 11-year old girl on her way home from school is one of the victims.

Horrible.

It takes a special kind of person to be able to drive a truck into a bunch of innocent people.

What was to gain? I'm at a loss to explain the measurable gains from committing such a callous act.

It's a purely psychotic mentality.

jnimhaoileoin

Spiritual_Chaos said:

bootlegger10 said:

There have been many discussions on here that the religious right in the USA are just as dangerous as Islamic extremists which is the most silly thought in the history of mankind. Hundreds of thousands of people are dying around the world at the hands of Muslim extremists, and probably 50 people have died in the last ten years by Christian extremists.

Anyway, my takeaway if living in Europe: avoid loitering in large groups near a street, airports, train stations and large events. Understand where the exits are, enjoy the show, and get out. Get checked into the airport as quickly as you can. No reason to take chances.

You just described how we should think, visiting the US with all your gun nuts shooting in public places and cops without proper training and/or racial bias.

The wave of terrorist attacks is scary. But Europe is still safe. But obviously, I will think more about it now when it's happend here. Sweden being a very safe and shielded place.

Thank you for speaking such sense. We in Europe are not going to live in fear

bootlegger10

jnimhaoileoin said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

bootlegger10 said:

There have been many discussions on here that the religious right in the USA are just as dangerous as Islamic extremists which is the most silly thought in the history of mankind. Hundreds of thousands of people are dying around the world at the hands of Muslim extremists, and probably 50 people have died in the last ten years by Christian extremists.

Anyway, my takeaway if living in Europe: avoid loitering in large groups near a street, airports, train stations and large events. Understand where the exits are, enjoy the show, and get out. Get checked into the airport as quickly as you can. No reason to take chances.

You just described how we should think, visiting the US with all your gun nuts shooting in public places and cops without proper training and/or racial bias.

The wave of terrorist attacks is scary. But Europe is still safe. But obviously, I will think more about it now when it's happend here. Sweden being a very safe and shielded place.

Thank you for speaking such sense. We in Europe are not going to live in fear

I didn't say live in fear. Just be diligent and aware.

unsung

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mcgruff10 said:

Another terrorist attack from the religion of peace.
Prayers to all those effected by this.

Lol

Get ready for the apologist attack. Prepare for the following questions and subsequent points and you might be able to hold your own:

Do you know how many people die from mosquitoes each year? A few deaths from terrorism is nothing.
Do you know how many people practice the religion of peace... peacefully? These events are outliers.
Do you know that in 1995 Timothy McVeigh blew up a building in Oklahoma? There's just as much Christian terrorism as Islamic terrorism.

Don't forget...

He was Swedish, he was born there.