Donald Trump

JC29856

Halifax2TheMax said:

So the rich and corporations need a tax cut because why?

short answer: corps pay an effective tax rate of 12%, since they are people they can take their profits and vote for even lower rates via campaign contributions and lobbying fees.
my advice: become rich, incorporate or hire a lobbying firm

Go Beavers

Halifax2TheMax said:

So the rich and corporations need a tax cut because why?

“To stimulate the economy”.

OnWis97

HughFreakingDillon said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

word on the street is that Trump has:

-asked his aides about the resignation process
-indicated he will not run again in 2020. 

FAKE NEWS or AMAZING NEWS?

i read that too. 

the resignation process is pretty simple. you quit, and your successor gets sworn in.

dude will probably resign before the next election cycle. can you imagine him having to fight off not only democrats, but his primary challenger?

I could see him resigning and offering a ton of excuses as to why (eg. the futility of congress).

He likely sees failure imminent and as opposed to experiencing it... he might just quit and save himself the humiliation. I'd prefer he stick around to get bounced in some manner.

I flip flop on this. I could see him just giving up because he's so frustrated at his lack of total control. he went into this thinking he could do whatever the fuck he wants. But public perception of him is of huge importance to him. that's really all that matters, which is why he has a tantrum any time negative things are said about him. I don't know how he resigns and still maintains dignity in his own eyes. unless his twisted brain is able to convince itself that his resigning is something of a win, I don't know how that happens. 

Coming in to his term I wondered whether his inherited life would impact him in the area of patience...frustration at not getting instant gratification for every whim.  And I'm not the least bit surprised that this appears to be the case.  

I tend to think that he likes the novelty of being president but hates the work.   And part of that novelty is being on the short list of people to hold the office.  The perception of these people is generally good as time goes on.  But what's Nixon remembered for?  Resigning.  Thirty years from now, I don't know that Clinton will be remembered for Monica, since he ultimately weathered the storm.  If he can avoid resignation, I am sure he (correctly) thinks that will have a positive impact on how he's regarded 30 years from now.  He doesn't want to be a President that resigned.

The question is (assuming he does not leave early) how does he weigh his hatred of the job vs. the perception of himself not even running for a second term?  Since the office has had term limits has anyone chosen not to run for a second term?  It would be much less of a perception problem than resigning.  While I think he'd win re-election if he wins, I am starting to doubt he'll run again.  If he chooses not to run again, it will be really fun to hear the stated rationales.

Halifax2TheMax

OnWis97 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

word on the street is that Trump has:

-asked his aides about the resignation process
-indicated he will not run again in 2020. 

FAKE NEWS or AMAZING NEWS?

i read that too. 

the resignation process is pretty simple. you quit, and your successor gets sworn in.

dude will probably resign before the next election cycle. can you imagine him having to fight off not only democrats, but his primary challenger?

I could see him resigning and offering a ton of excuses as to why (eg. the futility of congress).

He likely sees failure imminent and as opposed to experiencing it... he might just quit and save himself the humiliation. I'd prefer he stick around to get bounced in some manner.

I flip flop on this. I could see him just giving up because he's so frustrated at his lack of total control. he went into this thinking he could do whatever the fuck he wants. But public perception of him is of huge importance to him. that's really all that matters, which is why he has a tantrum any time negative things are said about him. I don't know how he resigns and still maintains dignity in his own eyes. unless his twisted brain is able to convince itself that his resigning is something of a win, I don't know how that happens. 

Coming in to his term I wondered whether his inherited life would impact him in the area of patience...frustration at not getting instant gratification for every whim.  And I'm not the least bit surprised that this appears to be the case.  

I tend to think that he likes the novelty of being president but hates the work.   And part of that novelty is being on the short list of people to hold the office.  The perception of these people is generally good as time goes on.  But what's Nixon remembered for?  Resigning.  Thirty years from now, I don't know that Clinton will be remembered for Monica, since he ultimately weathered the storm.  If he can avoid resignation, I am sure he (correctly) thinks that will have a positive impact on how he's regarded 30 years from now.  He doesn't want to be a President that resigned.

The question is (assuming he does not leave early) how does he weigh his hatred of the job vs. the perception of himself not even running for a second term?  Since the office has had term limits has anyone chosen not to run for a second term?  It would be much less of a perception problem than resigning.  While I think he'd win re-election if he wins, I am starting to doubt he'll run again.  If he chooses not to run again, it will be really fun to hear the stated rationales.

LBJ refused to run and would not accept his party’s nomination.

Halifax2TheMax

JC29856 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

So the rich and corporations need a tax cut because why?

short answer: corps pay an effective tax rate of 12%, since they are people they can take their profits and vote for even lower rates via campaign contributions and lobbying fees.
my advice: become rich, incorporate or hire a lobbying firm

Define rich.

Go Beavers

OnWis97 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

word on the street is that Trump has:

-asked his aides about the resignation process
-indicated he will not run again in 2020. 

FAKE NEWS or AMAZING NEWS?

i read that too. 

the resignation process is pretty simple. you quit, and your successor gets sworn in.

dude will probably resign before the next election cycle. can you imagine him having to fight off not only democrats, but his primary challenger?

I could see him resigning and offering a ton of excuses as to why (eg. the futility of congress).

He likely sees failure imminent and as opposed to experiencing it... he might just quit and save himself the humiliation. I'd prefer he stick around to get bounced in some manner.

I flip flop on this. I could see him just giving up because he's so frustrated at his lack of total control. he went into this thinking he could do whatever the fuck he wants. But public perception of him is of huge importance to him. that's really all that matters, which is why he has a tantrum any time negative things are said about him. I don't know how he resigns and still maintains dignity in his own eyes. unless his twisted brain is able to convince itself that his resigning is something of a win, I don't know how that happens. 

Coming in to his term I wondered whether his inherited life would impact him in the area of patience...frustration at not getting instant gratification for every whim.  And I'm not the least bit surprised that this appears to be the case.  

I tend to think that he likes the novelty of being president but hates the work.   And part of that novelty is being on the short list of people to hold the office.  The perception of these people is generally good as time goes on.  But what's Nixon remembered for?  Resigning.  Thirty years from now, I don't know that Clinton will be remembered for Monica, since he ultimately weathered the storm.  If he can avoid resignation, I am sure he (correctly) thinks that will have a positive impact on how he's regarded 30 years from now.  He doesn't want to be a President that resigned.

The question is (assuming he does not leave early) how does he weigh his hatred of the job vs. the perception of himself not even running for a second term?  Since the office has had term limits has anyone chosen not to run for a second term?  It would be much less of a perception problem than resigning.  While I think he'd win re-election if he wins, I am starting to doubt he'll run again.  If he chooses not to run again, it will be really fun to hear the stated rationales.

You really think trump will be looked on positively in the future? Come on. If he’s in four years the disasters will keep piling up. No one documenting this is writing anything positive about him. That’s what will go on the record. And I have no idea why you think he’d get re-elected. 

HughFreakingDillon

Go Beavers said:

OnWis97 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

word on the street is that Trump has:

-asked his aides about the resignation process
-indicated he will not run again in 2020. 

FAKE NEWS or AMAZING NEWS?

i read that too. 

the resignation process is pretty simple. you quit, and your successor gets sworn in.

dude will probably resign before the next election cycle. can you imagine him having to fight off not only democrats, but his primary challenger?

I could see him resigning and offering a ton of excuses as to why (eg. the futility of congress).

He likely sees failure imminent and as opposed to experiencing it... he might just quit and save himself the humiliation. I'd prefer he stick around to get bounced in some manner.

I flip flop on this. I could see him just giving up because he's so frustrated at his lack of total control. he went into this thinking he could do whatever the fuck he wants. But public perception of him is of huge importance to him. that's really all that matters, which is why he has a tantrum any time negative things are said about him. I don't know how he resigns and still maintains dignity in his own eyes. unless his twisted brain is able to convince itself that his resigning is something of a win, I don't know how that happens. 

Coming in to his term I wondered whether his inherited life would impact him in the area of patience...frustration at not getting instant gratification for every whim.  And I'm not the least bit surprised that this appears to be the case.  

I tend to think that he likes the novelty of being president but hates the work.   And part of that novelty is being on the short list of people to hold the office.  The perception of these people is generally good as time goes on.  But what's Nixon remembered for?  Resigning.  Thirty years from now, I don't know that Clinton will be remembered for Monica, since he ultimately weathered the storm.  If he can avoid resignation, I am sure he (correctly) thinks that will have a positive impact on how he's regarded 30 years from now.  He doesn't want to be a President that resigned.

The question is (assuming he does not leave early) how does he weigh his hatred of the job vs. the perception of himself not even running for a second term?  Since the office has had term limits has anyone chosen not to run for a second term?  It would be much less of a perception problem than resigning.  While I think he'd win re-election if he wins, I am starting to doubt he'll run again.  If he chooses not to run again, it will be really fun to hear the stated rationales.

You really think trump will be looked on positively in the future? Come on. If he’s in four years the disasters will keep piling up. No one documenting this is writing anything positive about him. That’s what will go on the record. And I have no idea why you think he’d get re-elected. 

this is a common theme. people think since the DNC hasn't put anyone up yet that they will fail and they have no message and all that. even though the democratic primaries are what, at least 2 years away?

OnWis97

Go Beavers said:

OnWis97 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

word on the street is that Trump has:

-asked his aides about the resignation process
-indicated he will not run again in 2020. 

FAKE NEWS or AMAZING NEWS?

i read that too. 

the resignation process is pretty simple. you quit, and your successor gets sworn in.

dude will probably resign before the next election cycle. can you imagine him having to fight off not only democrats, but his primary challenger?

I could see him resigning and offering a ton of excuses as to why (eg. the futility of congress).

He likely sees failure imminent and as opposed to experiencing it... he might just quit and save himself the humiliation. I'd prefer he stick around to get bounced in some manner.

I flip flop on this. I could see him just giving up because he's so frustrated at his lack of total control. he went into this thinking he could do whatever the fuck he wants. But public perception of him is of huge importance to him. that's really all that matters, which is why he has a tantrum any time negative things are said about him. I don't know how he resigns and still maintains dignity in his own eyes. unless his twisted brain is able to convince itself that his resigning is something of a win, I don't know how that happens. 

Coming in to his term I wondered whether his inherited life would impact him in the area of patience...frustration at not getting instant gratification for every whim.  And I'm not the least bit surprised that this appears to be the case.  

I tend to think that he likes the novelty of being president but hates the work.   And part of that novelty is being on the short list of people to hold the office.  The perception of these people is generally good as time goes on.  But what's Nixon remembered for?  Resigning.  Thirty years from now, I don't know that Clinton will be remembered for Monica, since he ultimately weathered the storm.  If he can avoid resignation, I am sure he (correctly) thinks that will have a positive impact on how he's regarded 30 years from now.  He doesn't want to be a President that resigned.

The question is (assuming he does not leave early) how does he weigh his hatred of the job vs. the perception of himself not even running for a second term?  Since the office has had term limits has anyone chosen not to run for a second term?  It would be much less of a perception problem than resigning.  While I think he'd win re-election if he wins, I am starting to doubt he'll run again.  If he chooses not to run again, it will be really fun to hear the stated rationales.

You really think trump will be looked on positively in the future? Come on. If he’s in four years the disasters will keep piling up. No one documenting this is writing anything positive about him. That’s what will go on the record. And I have no idea why you think he’d get re-elected. 

There's two ways of looking at how positively he'll be looked at.  Will he be considered a good president?  No.  But 50 years from now, when most of us are dead and school kids are looking at all the presidential photos, he'll be on that list (which I think is like 50% of what he wanted out of this) and while actual historians will consider this a disaster, time will make him just one of the few...but leaving in disgrace (i.e., being removed or resigning) would be part of the basics of what we know about him.  Getting through two (or even one?) terms and he's not "that guy."  Do we know Andrew Jackson was a scumbag?  Sure.  Those of us interested in such things.  But he's on money.  By resigning, Trump becomes Nixon.  By sticking it out, he is more like W or someone.  The fact that he's a racist Twitter troll won't be reflected in civics class.

As for 2020, if he decides to run again, underestimate his movement at our peril.  If the Dems (a party in absolute shambles) don't find a candidate that brings people out to the polls, yeah, he has a real shot.

rgambs

OnWis97 said:

Go Beavers said:

OnWis97 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

word on the street is that Trump has:

-asked his aides about the resignation process
-indicated he will not run again in 2020. 

FAKE NEWS or AMAZING NEWS?

i read that too. 

the resignation process is pretty simple. you quit, and your successor gets sworn in.

dude will probably resign before the next election cycle. can you imagine him having to fight off not only democrats, but his primary challenger?

I could see him resigning and offering a ton of excuses as to why (eg. the futility of congress).

He likely sees failure imminent and as opposed to experiencing it... he might just quit and save himself the humiliation. I'd prefer he stick around to get bounced in some manner.

I flip flop on this. I could see him just giving up because he's so frustrated at his lack of total control. he went into this thinking he could do whatever the fuck he wants. But public perception of him is of huge importance to him. that's really all that matters, which is why he has a tantrum any time negative things are said about him. I don't know how he resigns and still maintains dignity in his own eyes. unless his twisted brain is able to convince itself that his resigning is something of a win, I don't know how that happens. 

Coming in to his term I wondered whether his inherited life would impact him in the area of patience...frustration at not getting instant gratification for every whim.  And I'm not the least bit surprised that this appears to be the case.  

I tend to think that he likes the novelty of being president but hates the work.   And part of that novelty is being on the short list of people to hold the office.  The perception of these people is generally good as time goes on.  But what's Nixon remembered for?  Resigning.  Thirty years from now, I don't know that Clinton will be remembered for Monica, since he ultimately weathered the storm.  If he can avoid resignation, I am sure he (correctly) thinks that will have a positive impact on how he's regarded 30 years from now.  He doesn't want to be a President that resigned.

The question is (assuming he does not leave early) how does he weigh his hatred of the job vs. the perception of himself not even running for a second term?  Since the office has had term limits has anyone chosen not to run for a second term?  It would be much less of a perception problem than resigning.  While I think he'd win re-election if he wins, I am starting to doubt he'll run again.  If he chooses not to run again, it will be really fun to hear the stated rationales.

You really think trump will be looked on positively in the future? Come on. If he’s in four years the disasters will keep piling up. No one documenting this is writing anything positive about him. That’s what will go on the record. And I have no idea why you think he’d get re-elected. 

There's two ways of looking at how positively he'll be looked at.  Will he be considered a good president?  No.  But 50 years from now, when most of us are dead and school kids are looking at all the presidential photos, he'll be on that list (which I think is like 50% of what he wanted out of this) and while actual historians will consider this a disaster, time will make him just one of the few...but leaving in disgrace (i.e., being removed or resigning) would be part of the basics of what we know about him.  Getting through two (or even one?) terms and he's not "that guy."  Do we know Andrew Jackson was a scumbag?  Sure.  Those of us interested in such things.  But he's on money.  By resigning, Trump becomes Nixon.  By sticking it out, he is more like W or someone.  The fact that he's a racist Twitter troll won't be reflected in civics class.

As for 2020, if he decides to run again, underestimate his movement at our peril.  If the Dems (a party in absolute shambles) don't find a candidate that brings people out to the polls, yeah, he has a real shot.

The Dems are not a party in absolute shambles, that's a ridiculous myth that's being perpetuated by conservatives who are distracting from the fact that their party is incapable of action despite domination of the 3 branches.
The Democratic party's message hasn't changed, they are united in opposition, and the lack of a front runner for Presidential candidate is a smart and calculated move.
Both of the last 2 Presidents came on the scene very late and beat the established favorites within their parties.  People are in a serious state of mistrust for career politicians, rallying behind a seasoned candidate now would be foolish.  It gives too much time for conservatives to craft their defense, it eliminates the possibility of an Obama type rising star, and it mobilises the extremists in the party who are obsessing over the bias in the last primary for Clinton.

Halifax2TheMax

What is he hiding?

Wait, I thought Trump had 'one of the greatest memories of all time'? - CNN

https://apple.news/A3Rfu1_4jTjmKBsn8kXcwDQ

https://apple.news/A3Rfu1_4jTjmKBsn8kXcwDQ 

I have a feeling that some of that laundered money made its way to the RNC. Follow the money indeed.

The Juggler

Oh, look, my level of embarrassment has reached yet another low.

Sorry rest of the world!

jeffbr

HughFreakingDillon said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

word on the street is that Trump has:

-asked his aides about the resignation process
-indicated he will not run again in 2020. 

FAKE NEWS or AMAZING NEWS?

i read that too. 

the resignation process is pretty simple. you quit, and your successor gets sworn in.

dude will probably resign before the next election cycle. can you imagine him having to fight off not only democrats, but his primary challenger?

I could see him resigning and offering a ton of excuses as to why (eg. the futility of congress).

He likely sees failure imminent and as opposed to experiencing it... he might just quit and save himself the humiliation. I'd prefer he stick around to get bounced in some manner.

I flip flop on this. I could see him just giving up because he's so frustrated at his lack of total control. he went into this thinking he could do whatever the fuck he wants. But public perception of him is of huge importance to him. that's really all that matters, which is why he has a tantrum any time negative things are said about him. I don't know how he resigns and still maintains dignity in his own eyes. unless his twisted brain is able to convince itself that his resigning is something of a win, I don't know how that happens. 

Yeah, I think lack of control will ultimately be Trump's emotional undoing. He is used to being large and in charge. But as President I think he's much more limited in power than he anticipated. He can't "order" congress to do anything. He can't "order" DOJ or FBI to actually do anything. He can't "order" the military to ban trans soldiers from serving. He can't "order" the Supremes to allow his travel ban to continue. He can write EOs all day long. But he has no decorum, no ability to persuade, no diplomacy, no empathy. He is used to being a ruler rather than a leader. It is driving him mad. Hopefully he goes fully cuckoo and the 25th Amendment gets invoked. I don't care if he harms himself, but unfortunately he's in a position to do a lot of harm to this country and the world. 

Trump Says He’s ‘Very Frustrated’ He Can’t Order DOJ, FBI To Go After Hillary Clinton

“But you know the saddest thing is that because I’m the president of the United States, I am not supposed to be involved with the Justice Department. I’m not supposed to be involved with the FBI. I’m not supposed to be doing the kind of things that I would love to be doing. And I’m very frustrated by it.”

mrussel1

Trump topic change... diplomacy.  I'm sure most of you saw this crazy ass statement from Trump yesterday. http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/11/03/561797675/im-the-only-one-that-matters-trump-says-of-state-dept-job-vacancies

Now put it together with reporting from the WashPo that the administration sought to meet with Rouhani directly.  Here is the American Conservative's take on the whole thing, which I find pretty funny, insightful and sad.  

The Post reports on a very strange story that has been making the rounds this week:

Just hours after President Trump finished calling Iran a “murderous regime” in his Sept. 19 speech at the United Nations, the administration asked French President Emmanuel Macron for a favor. Would Macron inquire whether Iranian President Hassan Rouhani was interested in speaking directly with Trump?

All three leaders were in New York for the U.N. General Assembly, as was Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, who conveyed the request to Macron, according to several administration and foreign officials.

Iran’s response, later that afternoon, was an unequivocal no. The Iranians, the French reported, “don’t believe you’re serious” and thought it was some kind of trick, a senior administration official said.

When the Iranian government initially claimed that Trump sought to speak to Rouhani at the U.N., it seemed hard to believe. After all, why would Trump want to talk to the Iranian president when he had just denounced the Iranian government in the harshest terms? For that matter, who on our side would expect a positive response from the Iranians following Trump’s display of hostility? It turns out that the original story was true, but we still don’t have satisfying answers to these questions. The administration’s explanation doesn’t make much sense:

Asked why Trump wanted to meet with Rouhani, the official said it was “in order to say, ‘Here’s all the mean stuff you do in the world, and we want you to stop. . . . If not, you should know we’re working on a strategy to get you to confront all of this.’ ”

The primary message, the official said, was that “the golden Obama-era window of rapprochement is over.”

If that account is correct, Trump wanted to meet with Rouhani for the sole purpose of issuing a threat, but that seems bizarre as well. There would be no reason to have a high-level meeting between presidents to deliver such an insulting message. There would certainly be no reason for their president to agree to a meeting where this would take place. Trump’s U.N. speech had already made the administration’s hostility to Iran perfectly clear, and the Iranian government could hardly fail to miss that. If this bungled attempt at making contact with Iran is any indication of how the administration thinks diplomacy is supposed to work, things are much worse than we thought.

Halifax2TheMax

mrussel1 said:

Trump topic change... diplomacy.  I'm sure most of you saw this crazy ass statement from Trump yesterday. http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/11/03/561797675/im-the-only-one-that-matters-trump-says-of-state-dept-job-vacancies

Now put it together with reporting from the WashPo that the administration sought to meet with Rouhani directly.  Here is the American Conservative's take on the whole thing, which I find pretty funny, insightful and sad.  

The Post reports on a very strange story that has been making the rounds this week:

Just hours after President Trump finished calling Iran a “murderous regime” in his Sept. 19 speech at the United Nations, the administration asked French President Emmanuel Macron for a favor. Would Macron inquire whether Iranian President Hassan Rouhani was interested in speaking directly with Trump?

All three leaders were in New York for the U.N. General Assembly, as was Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, who conveyed the request to Macron, according to several administration and foreign officials.

Iran’s response, later that afternoon, was an unequivocal no. The Iranians, the French reported, “don’t believe you’re serious” and thought it was some kind of trick, a senior administration official said.

When the Iranian government initially claimed that Trump sought to speak to Rouhani at the U.N., it seemed hard to believe. After all, why would Trump want to talk to the Iranian president when he had just denounced the Iranian government in the harshest terms? For that matter, who on our side would expect a positive response from the Iranians following Trump’s display of hostility? It turns out that the original story was true, but we still don’t have satisfying answers to these questions. The administration’s explanation doesn’t make much sense:

Asked why Trump wanted to meet with Rouhani, the official said it was “in order to say, ‘Here’s all the mean stuff you do in the world, and we want you to stop. . . . If not, you should know we’re working on a strategy to get you to confront all of this.’ ”

The primary message, the official said, was that “the golden Obama-era window of rapprochement is over.”

If that account is correct, Trump wanted to meet with Rouhani for the sole purpose of issuing a threat, but that seems bizarre as well. There would be no reason to have a high-level meeting between presidents to deliver such an insulting message. There would certainly be no reason for their president to agree to a meeting where this would take place. Trump’s U.N. speech had already made the administration’s hostility to Iran perfectly clear, and the Iranian government could hardly fail to miss that. If this bungled attempt at making contact with Iran is any indication of how the administration thinks diplomacy is supposed to work, things are much worse than we thought.

"Much worse than we thought?" For those that don't think, maybe. Sheesh. Untenable.

Kat

jeffbr said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

word on the street is that Trump has:

-asked his aides about the resignation process
-indicated he will not run again in 2020. 

FAKE NEWS or AMAZING NEWS?

i read that too. 

the resignation process is pretty simple. you quit, and your successor gets sworn in.

dude will probably resign before the next election cycle. can you imagine him having to fight off not only democrats, but his primary challenger?

I could see him resigning and offering a ton of excuses as to why (eg. the futility of congress).

He likely sees failure imminent and as opposed to experiencing it... he might just quit and save himself the humiliation. I'd prefer he stick around to get bounced in some manner.

I flip flop on this. I could see him just giving up because he's so frustrated at his lack of total control. he went into this thinking he could do whatever the fuck he wants. But public perception of him is of huge importance to him. that's really all that matters, which is why he has a tantrum any time negative things are said about him. I don't know how he resigns and still maintains dignity in his own eyes. unless his twisted brain is able to convince itself that his resigning is something of a win, I don't know how that happens. 

Yeah, I think lack of control will ultimately be Trump's emotional undoing. He is used to being large and in charge. But as President I think he's much more limited in power than he anticipated. He can't "order" congress to do anything. He can't "order" DOJ or FBI to actually do anything. He can't "order" the military to ban trans soldiers from serving. He can't "order" the Supremes to allow his travel ban to continue. He can write EOs all day long. But he has no decorum, no ability to persuade, no diplomacy, no empathy. He is used to being a ruler rather than a leader. It is driving him mad. Hopefully he goes fully cuckoo and the 25th Amendment gets invoked. I don't care if he harms himself, but unfortunately he's in a position to do a lot of harm to this country and the world. 

Trump Says He’s ‘Very Frustrated’ He Can’t Order DOJ, FBI To Go After Hillary Clinton

“But you know the saddest thing is that because I’m the president of the United States, I am not supposed to be involved with the Justice Department. I’m not supposed to be involved with the FBI. I’m not supposed to be doing the kind of things that I would love to be doing. And I’m very frustrated by it.”

No, the saddest thing is that you're in the White House.

Makes me smile that the founding fathers made it so America wouldn't have a King. Thank you founding fathers. It wasn't perfect but a great foundation.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

If you people have not watched any of the Roger Waters 'Pigs' live concert footage from this last tour... you need to.

I knew he had been unkind to Trump, but this was another dimension unkind. And I loved it!

Here... I copied it for you if you're inclined:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNgkC0v3oGI

dignin

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

If you people have not watched any of the Roger Waters 'Pigs' live concert footage from this last tour... you need to.

I knew he had been unkind to Trump, but this was another dimension unkind. And I loved it!

Here... I copied it for you if you're inclined:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNgkC0v3oGI

Jesus, that's awesome.

Halifax2TheMax

Just in time for the summer campaign season for the mid terms. Unless of course there’s a Christmas, oops, can’t say that, holiday pardon.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/03/politics/manafort-trial-set-for-may-2018/index.html

mrussel1

dignin said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

If you people have not watched any of the Roger Waters 'Pigs' live concert footage from this last tour... you need to.

I knew he had been unkind to Trump, but this was another dimension unkind. And I loved it!

Here... I copied it for you if you're inclined:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNgkC0v3oGI

Jesus, that's awesome.

I recorded the whole DC show.  It was really an astounding experience.  And the Pigs part just blew me away.  Rog really cut deep.  

HughFreakingDillon

I really should have spent the money to go see Waters one last time. Especially with his fondness for Trump.