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    SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,522
    edited January 2018

    Yes the GOP (some...not all) are doing their best to plant doubt as to tRump's guilt in all of this.

    The decision tRump made yesterday about Russian sanctions is really interesting.  If that were Obama you tRumpster's would be filling your pants with shit and screaming about how Obama was compromised.
    They would want him in jail or the electric chair now! 

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    JC29856 said:
    I know many like to complicate things on here but I have a simple question:
    If Mueller and his team are working on the Russia investigation with unlimited resources, privately and unimpeded, how can the claim be made that anything but nuclear holocaust or a natural disaster that wipes out planet earth, "distracts from the Russia investigation"?

    Dennis Nunez, can climb the Washington Monument naked to watch airplanes skywriting his memo for all the world to see, and it still wouldn't distract Mueller's investigation.
    You must have confused Team Trump Treason’s base with Team Mueller. Rookie mistake, comrade. Off to the propaganda gulag for you.

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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 18,143
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 18,143
    These screams from the right of bias work....because their base is too ignorant to pay attention
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
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    JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Is it not congress's duty and obligation to oversee the DOJ?

    Facts are facts, Mueller is on an unlimited resourced unimpeded fact finding mission, nobody can change the facts once they are presented.
     
    The facts so far: Flynn lying to the FBI, to agent Strzok accepted by judge Rudolf Contreras who recused himself shortly thereafter. Papadop for lying to the FBI. Manafort on 10 year old tax evasion.

    Until Muellers facts are disclosed to the public anyone who claims "this is a distraction" should be able to answer, a distraction from what?

    All we can do is wait and see...

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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 18,143
    JC29856 said:
    Is it not congress's duty and obligation to oversee the DOJ?

    Facts are facts, Mueller is on an unlimited resourced unimpeded fact finding mission, nobody can change the facts once they are presented.
     
    The facts so far: Flynn lying to the FBI, to agent Strzok accepted by judge Rudolf Contreras who recused himself shortly thereafter. Papadop for lying to the FBI. Manafort on 10 year old tax evasion.

    Until Muellers facts are disclosed to the public anyone who claims "this is a distraction" should be able to answer, a distraction from what?

    All we can do is wait and see...

    The distraction is an attempt to discredit what Mueller is likely to find.  If the GOP can plant enough seeds of doubt as to the credibility of the FBI, etc. then the upcoming nuclear bomb that Mueller is going to drop can be disputed.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 18,143
    tRump knows what he did....he knows it is bad.  He knows Mueller is sniffing around his businesses, etc.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,156
    Yes the GOP (some...not all) are doing their best to plant doubt as to tRump's guilt in all of this.

    The decision tRump made yesterday about Russian sanctions is really interesting.  If that were Obama you tRumpster's would be filling your pants with shit and screaming about how Obama was compromised.
    Yup.
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,590
    Smellyman said:

    Yes the GOP (some...not all) are doing their best to plant doubt as to tRump's guilt in all of this.

    The decision tRump made yesterday about Russian sanctions is really interesting.  If that were Obama you tRumpster's would be filling your pants with shit and screaming about how Obama was compromised.
    They would want him in jail or the electric chair now! 

    No.....they would want him strung up
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,470

    Perhaps the reason why Trump is refusing to implement the Russia sanctions is because he wants their help again later this year?

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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    It's more then distraction...

    They want justification to dump Rosenstein so they can knee cap Mueller.

    It's disgusting watching these republicans become total fucking lackeys for this orange treasonous piece of shit
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    tRump knows what he did....he knows it is bad.  He knows Mueller is sniffing around his businesses, etc.

    I feel Trump made a big mistake exposing himself as he did. I feel he underestimated a lot of things- including the fact that if he was elected... all his shadiness (personal and business) would be revealed by those seeking to bring him down.

    The worm would have been much better off in his wormhole doing worm-like things.

    Time will tell. 
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 18,143

    Perhaps the reason why Trump is refusing to implement the Russia sanctions is because he wants their help again later this year?

    I'm not a conspiracy theorist but it really makes you wonder what they have on him....probably the pee pee tape
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 18,143
    tRump knows what he did....he knows it is bad.  He knows Mueller is sniffing around his businesses, etc.

    I feel Trump made a big mistake exposing himself as he did. I feel he underestimated a lot of things- including the fact that if he was elected... all his shadiness (personal and business) would be revealed by those seeking to bring him down.

    The worm would have been much better off in his wormhole doing worm-like things.

    Time will tell. 
    The whole thing was fucked up.  tRump never expected to get that far...therefore he never thought he would get exposed.

    No one ever really vetted him because they were certain he couldn't win either the nomination or the fucking white house.  

    This is a really fucked up piece of history.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,982
    edited January 2018
    Oh, oh Donny. The noose is getting tighter. No wonder there's been so much repube ado and 3D'ing.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/30/trump-russia-collusion-fbi-cody-shearer-memo

    The Shearer memo was provided to the FBI in October 2016.

    It was handed to them by Steele – who had been given it by an American contact after the FBI requested the former MI6 agent provide any documents or evidence that could be useful in its investigation, according to multiple sources.

    The Guardian was told Steele warned the FBI he could not vouch for the veracity of the Shearer memo, but that he was providing a copy because it corresponded with what he had separately heard from his own independent sources.

    Among other things, both documents allege Donald Trump was compromised during a 2013 trip to Moscow that involved lewd acts in a five-star hotel.

    The Shearer memo cites an unnamed source within Russia’s FSB, the state security service. The Guardian cannot verify any of the claims.



    #PTAPE
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    stuckinlinestuckinline Posts: 3,359
    Ok, I'll play devil's advocate here. If a ptape does exist, will it even matter to the Trump 'cult' members?
    Will his 'followers' stay loyal to him?
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,304
    Ok, I'll play devil's advocate here. If a ptape does exist, will it even matter to the Trump 'cult' members?
    Will his 'followers' stay loyal to him?
    Probably not, but to the rest of us nose breathers it just proves he's been compromised. 
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    JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Oh, oh Donny. The noose is getting tighter. No wonder there's been so much repube ado and 3D'ing.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/30/trump-russia-collusion-fbi-cody-shearer-memo

    The Shearer memo was provided to the FBI in October 2016.

    It was handed to them by Steele – who had been given it by an American contact after the FBI requested the former MI6 agent provide any documents or evidence that could be useful in its investigation, according to multiple sources.

    The Guardian was told Steele warned the FBI he could not vouch for the veracity of the Shearer memo, but that he was providing a copy because it corresponded with what he had separately heard from his own independent sources.

    Among other things, both documents allege Donald Trump was compromised during a 2013 trip to Moscow that involved lewd acts in a five-star hotel.

    The Shearer memo cites an unnamed source within Russia’s FSB, the state security service. The Guardian cannot verify any of the claims.



    #PTAPE
    Speaking of distractions! Isn't this deja vu all over again!

    I honestly think this is the one, cancel the SOTU!
    I wonder if the unnamed unverifiable source is the same as Steeles? Maybe it is Steele? Can someone forward this to Brian Ross, quick fast in a hurry.

    I will say this, if Putin had the vision to plan a takeover of our democracy in 2013 via Donald Trump, we should trade all of our gold reserves for him and lifetime appoint him as Czar.
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    Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,733
    JC29856 said:
    Oh, oh Donny. The noose is getting tighter. No wonder there's been so much repube ado and 3D'ing.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/30/trump-russia-collusion-fbi-cody-shearer-memo

    The Shearer memo was provided to the FBI in October 2016.

    It was handed to them by Steele – who had been given it by an American contact after the FBI requested the former MI6 agent provide any documents or evidence that could be useful in its investigation, according to multiple sources.

    The Guardian was told Steele warned the FBI he could not vouch for the veracity of the Shearer memo, but that he was providing a copy because it corresponded with what he had separately heard from his own independent sources.

    Among other things, both documents allege Donald Trump was compromised during a 2013 trip to Moscow that involved lewd acts in a five-star hotel.

    The Shearer memo cites an unnamed source within Russia’s FSB, the state security service. The Guardian cannot verify any of the claims.



    #PTAPE
    Speaking of distractions! Isn't this deja vu all over again!

    I honestly think this is the one, cancel the SOTU!
    I wonder if the unnamed unverifiable source is the same as Steeles? Maybe it is Steele? Can someone forward this to Brian Ross, quick fast in a hurry.

    I will say this, if Putin had the vision to plan a takeover of our democracy in 2013 via Donald Trump, we should trade all of our gold reserves for him and lifetime appoint him as Czar.
    Russia had their eyes on trump before 2013. 
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,811
    JC29856 said:
    Is it not congress's duty and obligation to oversee the DOJ?

    Facts are facts, Mueller is on an unlimited resourced unimpeded fact finding mission, nobody can change the facts once they are presented.
     
    The facts so far: Flynn lying to the FBI, to agent Strzok accepted by judge Rudolf Contreras who recused himself shortly thereafter. Papadop for lying to the FBI. Manafort on 10 year old tax evasion.

    Until Muellers facts are disclosed to the public anyone who claims "this is a distraction" should be able to answer, a distraction from what?

    All we can do is wait and see...

    The distraction is an attempt to discredit what Mueller is likely to find.  If the GOP can plant enough seeds of doubt as to the credibility of the FBI, etc. then the upcoming nuclear bomb that Mueller is going to drop can be disputed.
    And.... Rosenstein oversees Mueller. Sessions recused himself.  So only Trump can fire Mueller,  other than Rosenstein.  So the House GOP is trying to discredit Rosenstein so he can be fired.  Then a loyalist can be installed who will either end or control the investigation. The other strategy would be to fire sessions.  But that's less likely.  Firing Mueller directly is too perilous for Trump.

    Let's not be naive to this plan.  It's fairly transparent .
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    JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    JC29856 said:
    Oh, oh Donny. The noose is getting tighter. No wonder there's been so much repube ado and 3D'ing.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/30/trump-russia-collusion-fbi-cody-shearer-memo

    The Shearer memo was provided to the FBI in October 2016.

    It was handed to them by Steele – who had been given it by an American contact after the FBI requested the former MI6 agent provide any documents or evidence that could be useful in its investigation, according to multiple sources.

    The Guardian was told Steele warned the FBI he could not vouch for the veracity of the Shearer memo, but that he was providing a copy because it corresponded with what he had separately heard from his own independent sources.

    Among other things, both documents allege Donald Trump was compromised during a 2013 trip to Moscow that involved lewd acts in a five-star hotel.

    The Shearer memo cites an unnamed source within Russia’s FSB, the state security service. The Guardian cannot verify any of the claims.



    #PTAPE
    Speaking of distractions! Isn't this deja vu all over again!

    I honestly think this is the one, cancel the SOTU!
    I wonder if the unnamed unverifiable source is the same as Steeles? Maybe it is Steele? Can someone forward this to Brian Ross, quick fast in a hurry.

    I will say this, if Putin had the vision to plan a takeover of our democracy in 2013 via Donald Trump, we should trade all of our gold reserves for him and lifetime appoint him as Czar.
    Russia had their eyes on trump before 2013. 
    So did this guy!
    https://www.cnn.com/2015/09/03/politics/donald-trump-gop-rick-wilson/index.html
    http://time.com/4106999/marco-rubio-super-pac-john-jordan-winery/




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    JC29856 said:
    Oh, oh Donny. The noose is getting tighter. No wonder there's been so much repube ado and 3D'ing.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/30/trump-russia-collusion-fbi-cody-shearer-memo

    The Shearer memo was provided to the FBI in October 2016.

    It was handed to them by Steele – who had been given it by an American contact after the FBI requested the former MI6 agent provide any documents or evidence that could be useful in its investigation, according to multiple sources.

    The Guardian was told Steele warned the FBI he could not vouch for the veracity of the Shearer memo, but that he was providing a copy because it corresponded with what he had separately heard from his own independent sources.

    Among other things, both documents allege Donald Trump was compromised during a 2013 trip to Moscow that involved lewd acts in a five-star hotel.

    The Shearer memo cites an unnamed source within Russia’s FSB, the state security service. The Guardian cannot verify any of the claims.



    #PTAPE
    Speaking of distractions! Isn't this deja vu all over again!

    I honestly think this is the one, cancel the SOTU!
    I wonder if the unnamed unverifiable source is the same as Steeles? Maybe it is Steele? Can someone forward this to Brian Ross, quick fast in a hurry.

    I will say this, if Putin had the vision to plan a takeover of our democracy in 2013 via Donald Trump, we should trade all of our gold reserves for him and lifetime appoint him as Czar.
    Again, you can't seem to be able to differentiate between a congressional investigation, political (witch hunt) and a special counsel's investigation, criminal (due process). That the FBI was provided with a document from another source that claims to have investigated many of the same claims as the Steele Dossier, provides Team Mueller with the impetus and the evidence he needs to pursue leads. What Team Mueller has discovered, we do not know. However, the fact that Team Mueller's investigation is "ongoing" would indicate that the allegations in the Steele Dossier and the Shearer Memo have legs. Too close for comfort, eh comrade? My money's on Team Mueller. Where are your rubles, eh? Not in my pocket, however.

    Please don't misrepresent my quotes by bolding them without citing such. Its disingenuous and dishonest. Traits you're familiar with.
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 18,143
    dignin said:
    Ok, I'll play devil's advocate here. If a ptape does exist, will it even matter to the Trump 'cult' members?
    Will his 'followers' stay loyal to him?
    Probably not, but to the rest of us nose breathers it just proves he's been compromised. 
    Exactly this...it's all about blackmail
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,982
    edited January 2018
    tRump knows what he did....he knows it is bad.  He knows Mueller is sniffing around his businesses, etc.

    I feel Trump made a big mistake exposing himself as he did. I feel he underestimated a lot of things- including the fact that if he was elected... all his shadiness (personal and business) would be revealed by those seeking to bring him down.

    The worm would have been much better off in his wormhole doing worm-like things.

    Time will tell. 
    The whole thing was fucked up.  tRump never expected to get that far...therefore he never thought he would get exposed.

    No one ever really vetted him because they were certain he couldn't win either the nomination or the fucking white house.  

    This is a really fucked up piece of history.
    I disagree with you here. I think the RNC's internal polling showed that Team Trump Treason was the only candidate that could beat Hillary, but by such a slim margin, well below the sampling error %, that they signed a deal with the Devil. Think about it. The Steele Dossier wasn't released prior to the election (The contents of the dossier were published in full by BuzzFeed on January 10, 2017.[4]), the affair with Stormy Daniels was suppressed and all the dirty laundry that Team Trump Treason possessed wasn't aired during the primaries. Instead, one by one, the other repube candidates meekly withdrew and didn't sound any withering criticism. Almost as if they wanted Team Trump Treason to appear "victorious" and as a "vanquisher" going into the general election. But, because the winning % was too close, they couldn't leave anything to chance, hence the Russian collusion. That and a PTape is what wrote history. The RNC and certain repube members of Congress are complicit in the collusion and ensuing cover up. Team Mueller will sort it out.

    And don't forget the record number of repube resignations ahead of the mid-terms when you'd think they'd be doing their victory laps and gearing up for 2020. They know what's eventually on the horizon and how it'll set.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,470
    tRump knows what he did....he knows it is bad.  He knows Mueller is sniffing around his businesses, etc.

    I feel Trump made a big mistake exposing himself as he did. I feel he underestimated a lot of things- including the fact that if he was elected... all his shadiness (personal and business) would be revealed by those seeking to bring him down.

    The worm would have been much better off in his wormhole doing worm-like things.

    Time will tell. 
    The whole thing was fucked up.  tRump never expected to get that far...therefore he never thought he would get exposed.

    No one ever really vetted him because they were certain he couldn't win either the nomination or the fucking white house.  

    This is a really fucked up piece of history.
    I disagree with you here. I think the RNC's internal polling showed that Team Trump Treason was the only candidate that could beat Hillary, but by such a slim margin, well below the sampling error %, that they signed a deal with the Devil. Think about it. The Steele Dossier wasn't released prior to the election (The contents of the dossier were published in full by BuzzFeed on January 10, 2017.[4]), the affair with Stormy Daniels was suppressed and all the dirty laundry that Team Trump Treason possessed wasn't aired during the primaries. Instead, one by one, the other repube candidates meekly withdrew and didn't sound any withering criticism. Almost as if they wanted Team Trump Treason to appear "victorious" and as a "vanquisher" going into the general election. But, because the winning % was too close, they couldn't leave anything to chance, hence the Russian collusion. That and a PTape is what wrote history. The RNC and certain repube members of Congress are complicit in the collusion and ensuing cover up. Team Mueller will sort it out.

    Siding with Mr. Blanstein on this one. I think the RNC was resigned to losing that election
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    tRump knows what he did....he knows it is bad.  He knows Mueller is sniffing around his businesses, etc.

    I feel Trump made a big mistake exposing himself as he did. I feel he underestimated a lot of things- including the fact that if he was elected... all his shadiness (personal and business) would be revealed by those seeking to bring him down.

    The worm would have been much better off in his wormhole doing worm-like things.

    Time will tell. 
    The whole thing was fucked up.  tRump never expected to get that far...therefore he never thought he would get exposed.

    No one ever really vetted him because they were certain he couldn't win either the nomination or the fucking white house.  

    This is a really fucked up piece of history.
    I disagree with you here. I think the RNC's internal polling showed that Team Trump Treason was the only candidate that could beat Hillary, but by such a slim margin, well below the sampling error %, that they signed a deal with the Devil. Think about it. The Steele Dossier wasn't released prior to the election (The contents of the dossier were published in full by BuzzFeed on January 10, 2017.[4]), the affair with Stormy Daniels was suppressed and all the dirty laundry that Team Trump Treason possessed wasn't aired during the primaries. Instead, one by one, the other repube candidates meekly withdrew and didn't sound any withering criticism. Almost as if they wanted Team Trump Treason to appear "victorious" and as a "vanquisher" going into the general election. But, because the winning % was too close, they couldn't leave anything to chance, hence the Russian collusion. That and a PTape is what wrote history. The RNC and certain repube members of Congress are complicit in the collusion and ensuing cover up. Team Mueller will sort it out.

    Siding with Mr. Blanstein on this one. I think the RNC was resigned to losing that election
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    mrussel1 said:
    JC29856 said:
    Is it not congress's duty and obligation to oversee the DOJ?

    Facts are facts, Mueller is on an unlimited resourced unimpeded fact finding mission, nobody can change the facts once they are presented.
     
    The facts so far: Flynn lying to the FBI, to agent Strzok accepted by judge Rudolf Contreras who recused himself shortly thereafter. Papadop for lying to the FBI. Manafort on 10 year old tax evasion.

    Until Muellers facts are disclosed to the public anyone who claims "this is a distraction" should be able to answer, a distraction from what?

    All we can do is wait and see...

    The distraction is an attempt to discredit what Mueller is likely to find.  If the GOP can plant enough seeds of doubt as to the credibility of the FBI, etc. then the upcoming nuclear bomb that Mueller is going to drop can be disputed.
    And.... Rosenstein oversees Mueller. Sessions recused himself.  So only Trump can fire Mueller,  other than Rosenstein.  So the House GOP is trying to discredit Rosenstein so he can be fired.  Then a loyalist can be installed who will either end or control the investigation. The other strategy would be to fire sessions.  But that's less likely.  Firing Mueller directly is too perilous for Trump.

    Let's not be naive to this plan.  It's fairly transparent .
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    Yum, yea, sure.


    Trump says it will be hard to unify country without a 'major event' - PBS NewsHour https://apple.news/ASXau0PkVSi6vUNHy-Kx95g
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    Yum, yea, sure.


    Trump says it will be hard to unify country without a 'major event' - PBS NewsHour https://apple.news/ASXau0PkVSi6vUNHy-Kx95g

    In other words: "If I'm not forced to resign and my approval numbers are still in the toilet, we're going to war with someone before 2020! Woo!"
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    "Major event"

    Interesting
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