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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,294
    McConnell says Trump should be impeached....I assume because of tRump's comments today about how there was nothing wrong with his speech last Wednesday.
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  • PJNB
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    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/12/us/mitch-mcconnell-trump-impeachment.html

    Starting to think he will actually get impeached by the senate now. Get fucked Trump
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,583
    ok, so what about this shit that the trial can't happen after trump is out of office?
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    ok, so what about this shit that the trial can't happen after trump is out of office?
    Who is saying that??  Nothing in the Constitution to prevent that to my knowledge. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,583
    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    ok, so what about this shit that the trial can't happen after trump is out of office?
    Who is saying that??  Nothing in the Constitution to prevent that to my knowledge. 
    i watched an interview with Alan Derchowitz who said the constitution expressly specifies that impeachment is for sitting presidents. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Gern Blansten said:
    McConnell says Trump should be impeached....I assume because of tRump's comments today about how there was nothing wrong with his speech last Wednesday.
    Moscow Mitchy Baby is covering his ass. He knows he won’t get 17 senators to vote for conviction and he’s not going to twist arms to make it happen. It’s a wink wink, nod nod. He also knows it won’t happen until after 1/20 so it has no effect or impact and that three months from now the average American voter will have forgotten about Tricky Team Trump TREASON Tax Cheat’s transgressions and his and his party’s complicity. Fuck Moscow Mitchy Baby. You need Ted Crud, Tom I’m a Warrior Hear Me Roar Cotton and Marco Rubio and their ilk to publicly state they’d impeach and then collectively fast track the house impeachment and senate vote. Anything less is CYA and cowardly. Fuck them. 
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  • Kat
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    ok, so what about this shit that the trial can't happen after trump is out of office?
    That's why he gets no credit for this comment until he calls the Senate back into session to receive the article of impeachment.

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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    Kat said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    ok, so what about this shit that the trial can't happen after trump is out of office?
    That's why he gets no credit for this comment until he calls the Senate back into session to receive the article of impeachment.

    And what better way to tie up the senate than another impeachment trial while Biden tries to get his stuff through. Thanks to GA the Dems are in control however and can choose their own destiny at this point. Waiting 100 days actually makes sense to me now. 
  • mrussel1
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    edited January 2021
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    ok, so what about this shit that the trial can't happen after trump is out of office?
    Who is saying that??  Nothing in the Constitution to prevent that to my knowledge. 
    i watched an interview with Alan Derchowitz who said the constitution expressly specifies that impeachment is for sitting presidents. 
    He is probably looking at this clause and saying that the senate cannot try him because it can only try presidents.  Therefore he cannot be tried after leaving office.  I think it's a stretch.  There in no such encumberence (word?) on the House's power.  

    The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.

    edit - here's the thing.  It only says that when the president is tried, the Chief Justice presides.  In theory, this clause only is saying that the Chief does not have to preside because Trump is not president, NOT that he cannot be tried. 
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  • mickeyrat
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    PJNB said:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/12/us/mitch-mcconnell-trump-impeachment.html

    Starting to think he will actually get impeached by the senate now. Get fucked Trump

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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    mickeyrat said:
    PJNB said:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/12/us/mitch-mcconnell-trump-impeachment.html

    Starting to think he will actually get impeached by the senate now. Get fucked Trump

    completely personally and party purpose and not because its right.
    Absolutely. This is the best option they have for not splitting the party in 2024. Push him out now, not allow him to run in 2024, let the dust settle and hopefully his voters turn out for the new candidate. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
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    edited January 2021
    i know it's impossible to compare the digital age to the 70's, but did nixon have any kind of cult like support? (besides roger stone)
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,617
    PJNB said:
    mickeyrat said:
    PJNB said:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/12/us/mitch-mcconnell-trump-impeachment.html

    Starting to think he will actually get impeached by the senate now. Get fucked Trump

    completely personally and party purpose and not because its right.
    Absolutely. This is the best option they have for not splitting the party in 2024. Push him out now, not allow him to run in 2024, let the dust settle and hopefully his voters turn out for the new candidate. 

    Who will probably be Hawley, Crenshaw, Hayley, or some other Trump boot-licker.  Maybe even someone named Trump. If the party doesn't split, it's going to remain the Party of Trump.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,232
    i am waiting for a crying tweet about how unfairly mitch is treating him.

    oh wait....
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    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • HughFreakingDillon
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    OnWis97 said:
    PJNB said:
    mickeyrat said:
    PJNB said:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/12/us/mitch-mcconnell-trump-impeachment.html

    Starting to think he will actually get impeached by the senate now. Get fucked Trump

    completely personally and party purpose and not because its right.
    Absolutely. This is the best option they have for not splitting the party in 2024. Push him out now, not allow him to run in 2024, let the dust settle and hopefully his voters turn out for the new candidate. 

    Who will probably be Hawley, Crenshaw, Hayley, or some other Trump boot-licker.  Maybe even someone named Trump. If the party doesn't split, it's going to remain the Party of Trump.
    haha, after all this? you still think it's going to be the party of trump? mcconell is probably the one person on that side that can see the forest for the trees more than any of them. he's the best at what the does (in an awful way). if he's moved on and trump hasn't even left yet, the rest of the party will soon follow. matt gaetz and jim jordon are NOT going to be controlling members of that party. 
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  • josevolution
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    mickeyrat said:
    PJNB said:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/12/us/mitch-mcconnell-trump-impeachment.html

    Starting to think he will actually get impeached by the senate now. Get fucked Trump

    completely personally and party purpose and not because its right.
    At this point GOP knows they need to purge him out the end game has to be the assurance that he can’t ever be president again! 
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,617
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    OnWis97 said:
    PJNB said:
    mickeyrat said:
    PJNB said:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/12/us/mitch-mcconnell-trump-impeachment.html

    Starting to think he will actually get impeached by the senate now. Get fucked Trump

    completely personally and party purpose and not because its right.
    Absolutely. This is the best option they have for not splitting the party in 2024. Push him out now, not allow him to run in 2024, let the dust settle and hopefully his voters turn out for the new candidate. 

    Who will probably be Hawley, Crenshaw, Hayley, or some other Trump boot-licker.  Maybe even someone named Trump. If the party doesn't split, it's going to remain the Party of Trump.
    haha, after all this? you still think it's going to be the party of trump? mcconell is probably the one person on that side that can see the forest for the trees more than any of them. he's the best at what the does (in an awful way). if he's moved on and trump hasn't even left yet, the rest of the party will soon follow. matt gaetz and jim jordon are NOT going to be controlling members of that party. 
    The problem is that most US conservatives are on board with these clowns. And they cannot stand Romney (and turn on anyone who isn't loyal to Trump).  That "reasonable conservative" we talk about exists but not in large numbers. If the primaries were to be held on January 21, a Trumplican would win. Granted, four years (well, really two years before we start the next circus again) is a long time, so I suppose there's a chance that things calm down and someone like Sasse gets the nomination.

    Mitch is smart and I think he knows that what's best for the party is to smile at all the damage they've accomplished with (and before) Trump and try to steer the party back to normal "helping rich guys." But the party voters are pretty firmly ensconced in populism at this point and if holds up, there's not much Mitch can do about it.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    i know it's impossible to compare the digital age to the 70's, but did nixon have any kind of cult like support? (besides roger stone)
    I believe he still had a 40%+ approval rating and remained popular with repubs when he resigned. Nixon had pride, shame and a conscience.
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  • mrussel1
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    i know it's impossible to compare the digital age to the 70's, but did nixon have any kind of cult like support? (besides roger stone)
    I believe he still had a 40%+ approval rating and remained popular with repubs when he resigned. Nixon had pride, shame and a conscience.
    The R were a strong minority in the senate so the votes weren't there for him to stay.  It was purely a math problem for him.  I think I've read that he had no more than 15 votes to stay.  
  • Gern Blansten
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    OnWis97 said:
    PJNB said:
    mickeyrat said:
    PJNB said:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/12/us/mitch-mcconnell-trump-impeachment.html

    Starting to think he will actually get impeached by the senate now. Get fucked Trump

    completely personally and party purpose and not because its right.
    Absolutely. This is the best option they have for not splitting the party in 2024. Push him out now, not allow him to run in 2024, let the dust settle and hopefully his voters turn out for the new candidate. 

    Who will probably be Hawley, Crenshaw, Hayley, or some other Trump boot-licker.  Maybe even someone named Trump. If the party doesn't split, it's going to remain the Party of Trump.
    And tRump's role?  Probably going around the country and hosting rallies for whomever the boot licker is.  They will pay him millions and he'll be happy as hell.
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