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  • In the NYT this morning.

    Good morning. Companies are halting donations to Congress members who backed overturning the election result.

     

    Kevin McCarthy, the House minority leader, after the riot on Wednesday.Win Mcnamee/Getty Images

    An ‘unthinkable’ corporate response

     

    Large corporations and their lobbyists usually try to steer clear of messy political fights. Companies prefer to work behind the scenes, giving money to both political parties and quietly influencing tax policy, spending and regulation.

    But President Trump’s effort to overturn the result of the presidential election — and the violent attack on Congress by his supporters — has created a dilemma for many companies. A growing number have decided that they are, at least for now, not willing to support members of Congress who backed Trump’s efforts to change the election result and promoted lies about election fraud.

     

    Over the weekend, several large companies — Marriott, Blue Cross Blue Shield and Commerce Bancshares — announced a suspension of donations to members of Congress who voted against election certification. Yesterday, the list expanded to Amazon, AT&T, Comcast, Airbnb, Mastercard, Verizon and Dow, the chemical company. Hallmark has even asked for its money back from two of the senators who opposed certification, Josh Hawley and Roger Marshall.

    “Just a few days ago, this would have been unthinkable,” Judd Legum — the author of the Popular Information newsletter, who has done the best recent reporting on corporate donations — told me.

     

    In the Senate, the temporary ban on donations will also affect Rick Scott of Florida, Ted Cruz of Texas and a few other members. In the House, the group includes more than half of the Republican caucus, including its two top leaders, Kevin McCarthy and Steve Scalise.

    “We have to create some level of cost,” Thomas Glocer, a board member at Morgan Stanley and Merck, told The Wall Street Journal. “Money is the key way.”

     

    The National Association of Manufacturers, long one of the more conservative business lobbying groups, has been particularly harsh. It called out Republicans who “cheered on” Trump during his “disgusting” effort to overturn the election, which it said had “inflamed violent anger.” The association added: “This is sedition and should be treated as such.”

    Still, many large companies have not announced a change. (And other companies, like Goldman Sachs and Google’s parent, have announced a pause on all political donations — a move that seems designed to prevent public criticism while also not angering politicians who supported attempted election fraud.)

     

    McDonald’s and the tobacco company Altria, which are among the top 20 donors to McCarthy, the House Republican leader, have not announced a halt on donations to any Congress members. Neither has Bank of America (a major donor to Scott), although it said it would “review its decision making.”

    The well-connected law firm Squire Patton Boggs has also not announced any policy change. It has donated to Paul Gosar, a House member from Arizona who helped promote the Jan. 6 rally that turned violent, tweeting “#FightForTrump” and “The Time Is Now. Hold the Line.”

     

    What’s the bottom line? I asked Andrew Ross Sorkin, the Times columnist who has spent two decades covering corporate leaders, and he said that the announcements amounted to “temporary defensive moves.” The real question was whether, six months from now, the companies would go back to donating to the politicians who supported overturning a presidential election.

    For more, read Andrew’s latest column, which argues for a permanent end to corporate political donations.


  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Sheldon Adelson dead...
  • I wonder if Belichick would’ve accepted that medal three weeks ago; pre-capitol riot, but post-Trump disputing the election results. Hard to speculate. He would’ve definitely accepted it pre-election though. Not a doubt in my mind. Still, better to get off the Trump-train late than to ever get off it at all. So good move by him to decline this. 
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    i found one of those medals of freedom in my frosted flakes this morning.

    i'm not worthy, but they seem to be just giving them away to anybody at this point.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    mrussel1 said:
    Sheldon Adelson dead...
    whaaaat????

    really?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,369
    mrussel1 said:
    Sheldon Adelson dead...

    Fucking Soros.
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,769
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Sheldon Adelson dead...

    Fucking Soros.
    Don't rule out MS13 or ANTIFA. 
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,369
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Sheldon Adelson dead...

    Fucking Soros.
    Don't rule out MS13 or ANTIFA. 
    funded by........ cmon man, pay attention!!!

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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,369
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,808

    Way


    He looks like he has one hip in the grave in that picture. 
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Sheldon Adelson dead...

    Fucking Soros.
    This gave me a good laugh. 
    Today sucks Mick.  But Sunday was great.  Let's keep it going against the Chiefs. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    This is really interesting.  If you can't see through the paywall, I can post it.  But if it's true that a simply majority could stop him from running and a 2/3 would be needed to overturn it in the future, then I like this plan.  I would say impeach, hold the articles from teh senate and pass this bill on Trump, signed by Biden.  

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/01/11/impeachment-wont-keep-trump-running-again-heres-better-way/
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,369
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Sheldon Adelson dead...

    Fucking Soros.
    This gave me a good laugh. 
    Today sucks Mick.  But Sunday was great.  Let's keep it going against the Chiefs. 

    no no no. sunday AND monday sucked.

    STILL waiting on the steelers to show up for the game. the only joy I take is no browns fans were there to see it in person!!!!! thanks covid!!!
    _____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________

    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Sheldon Adelson dead...

    Fucking Soros.
    This gave me a good laugh. 
    Today sucks Mick.  But Sunday was great.  Let's keep it going against the Chiefs. 

    no no no. sunday AND monday sucked.

    STILL waiting on the steelers to show up for the game. the only joy I take is no browns fans were there to see it in person!!!!! thanks covid!!!
    Damn dude, I figured you were a Browns fan.  What are you from Youngstown or something?  Mahoning county?
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,369
    edited January 2021
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Sheldon Adelson dead...

    Fucking Soros.
    This gave me a good laugh. 
    Today sucks Mick.  But Sunday was great.  Let's keep it going against the Chiefs. 

    no no no. sunday AND monday sucked.

    STILL waiting on the steelers to show up for the game. the only joy I take is no browns fans were there to see it in person!!!!! thanks covid!!!
    Damn dude, I figured you were a Browns fan.  What are you from Youngstown or something?  Mahoning county?

    Columbus, life long. Steelers fan since the second superb owl with them against my older brothers fave the cowgirls.... had to cheer against. it stuck. AND with the exception of one bantam league baseball team and my hs soccer team,  EVERY team I was a part of baseball, football and  soccer was black and gold.


    have long joked, if you want to cheer for a winning nfl team look outside of Ohio.....

    Post edited by mickeyrat on
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Sheldon Adelson dead...

    Fucking Soros.
    This gave me a good laugh. 
    Today sucks Mick.  But Sunday was great.  Let's keep it going against the Chiefs. 

    no no no. sunday AND monday sucked.

    STILL waiting on the steelers to show up for the game. the only joy I take is no browns fans were there to see it in person!!!!! thanks covid!!!
    Damn dude, I figured you were a Browns fan.  What are you from Youngstown or something?  Mahoning county?

    Columbus, life long. Steelers fan since the second superb owl with them against my older brothers fave the cowgirls.... had to cheer against. it stuck. AND with the exception of one bantam league baseball team and my hs soccer team,  EVERY team I was a part of baseball, football and  soccer was black and gold.


    have long joked, if you want to cheer for a winning nfl team look outside of Ohio.....

    black and gold should be banned in Ohio as a color combo. It's what Jesus would want. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    edited January 2021

    Way


    He looks like he has one hip in the grave in that picture. 
    double post
    Post edited by HughFreakingDillon on
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,369
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Sheldon Adelson dead...

    Fucking Soros.
    This gave me a good laugh. 
    Today sucks Mick.  But Sunday was great.  Let's keep it going against the Chiefs. 

    no no no. sunday AND monday sucked.

    STILL waiting on the steelers to show up for the game. the only joy I take is no browns fans were there to see it in person!!!!! thanks covid!!!
    Damn dude, I figured you were a Browns fan.  What are you from Youngstown or something?  Mahoning county?

    Columbus, life long. Steelers fan since the second superb owl with them against my older brothers fave the cowgirls.... had to cheer against. it stuck. AND with the exception of one bantam league baseball team and my hs soccer team,  EVERY team I was a part of baseball, football and  soccer was black and gold.


    have long joked, if you want to cheer for a winning nfl team look outside of Ohio.....

    black and gold should be banned in Ohio as a color combo. It's what Jesus would want. 

    tell that to the 2020 mls champs......part owned by the brown and orange team.....
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473

    Way


    He looks like he has one hip in the grave in that picture. 
    kind of reminds me of this:


    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




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