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Interesting....I hope this is true because there is no way these pardons should work from an ethical standpoint.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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Interesting....I hope this is true because there is no way these pardons should work from an ethical standpoint.That's always been my understanding; not that I actually know how it works in practice or whether there are loopholes.I've always wanted Trump to go out disgracefully (i.e., not dying or getting through his second term). Losing an election and pardoning members of his family and administration is pretty disgraceful. Yeah, the Patriots will say "he was just preemptively preparing for witch hunts" but hopefully history would treat this just like it treats Nixon, as a black eye on US history. Of course, it would be better if the truths come out and I don't know the exact impact of these pardons on that.
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Safe to say history will treat Trump WAY worse than it has treated Nixon. It won't even be close.OnWis97 said:Gern Blansten said:
Interesting....I hope this is true because there is no way these pardons should work from an ethical standpoint.That's always been my understanding; not that I actually know how it works in practice or whether there are loopholes.I've always wanted Trump to go out disgracefully (i.e., not dying or getting through his second term). Losing an election and pardoning members of his family and administration is pretty disgraceful. Yeah, the Patriots will say "he was just preemptively preparing for witch hunts" but hopefully history would treat this just like it treats Nixon, as a black eye on US history. Of course, it would be better if the truths come out and I don't know the exact impact of these pardons on that.www.myspace.com0 -
what are people going on about online about some shit pence can pull to give trump the win? these people are delusional, correct? there's nothing that pence can do on Jan 7th, is there?Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0
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Nope. It’s over. The people that are saying this nonsense are full of shit.HughFreakingDillon said:what are people going on about online about some shit pence can pull to give trump the win? these people are delusional, correct? there's nothing that pence can do on Jan 7th, is there?I LOVE MUSIC.
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It is crazy how many people out there still think there is a chance and that everything has happened has all been apart of the plan and the bg reveal is coming. I visit (dont recommend it) the new self made reddit page for thedonald.win to see how crazy they are once in awhile. It is batshit crazy and they are not bots/trolls. Every hour of the day they have some new megaton announcement that is going to change the election. Must be exhausting.HughFreakingDillon said:what are people going on about online about some shit pence can pull to give trump the win? these people are delusional, correct? there's nothing that pence can do on Jan 7th, is there?0 -
k, it IS possible, but highly, highly improbable. especially since Mitch McTurtle already told his senators to stand down.mfc2006 said:
Nope. It’s over. The people that are saying this nonsense are full of shit.HughFreakingDillon said:what are people going on about online about some shit pence can pull to give trump the win? these people are delusional, correct? there's nothing that pence can do on Jan 7th, is there?
https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/america-votes/fact-check-is-the-choice-of-the-next-u-s-president-up-to-mike-pence-now-1.5233798
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HughFreakingDillon said:
k, it IS possible, but highly, highly improbable. especially since Mitch McTurtle already told his senators to stand down.mfc2006 said:
Nope. It’s over. The people that are saying this nonsense are full of shit.HughFreakingDillon said:what are people going on about online about some shit pence can pull to give trump the win? these people are delusional, correct? there's nothing that pence can do on Jan 7th, is there?
https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/america-votes/fact-check-is-the-choice-of-the-next-u-s-president-up-to-mike-pence-now-1.5233798As I metioned in the other thread, the people pushing the narrative seem to think that 1) Pence is more than a senate tiebreaker and 2) the House would be one vote per state (like in the no-EC-majority scenario).So what I THINK would have to happen is all four of these things:- A Representative objects (that will happen)
- A Senator objects (will probably happen)
- Senate votes to uphold the objection (Possible)
- House vote to uphold the objection (Almost impossible)
Anyone disagree that all four of those things would have to happen? Because, well, I'll never be at 100% until the inauguration is complete.1995 Milwaukee 1998 Alpine, Alpine 2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston 2004 Boston, Boston 2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty) 2011 Alpine, Alpine
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for kind of a plebe like me, i BELIEVE you are right, but can't be sure. it's such a convoluted process.OnWis97 said:HughFreakingDillon said:
k, it IS possible, but highly, highly improbable. especially since Mitch McTurtle already told his senators to stand down.mfc2006 said:
Nope. It’s over. The people that are saying this nonsense are full of shit.HughFreakingDillon said:what are people going on about online about some shit pence can pull to give trump the win? these people are delusional, correct? there's nothing that pence can do on Jan 7th, is there?
https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/america-votes/fact-check-is-the-choice-of-the-next-u-s-president-up-to-mike-pence-now-1.5233798As I metioned in the other thread, the people pushing the narrative seem to think that 1) Pence is more than a senate tiebreaker and 2) the House would be one vote per state (like in the no-EC-majority scenario).So what I THINK would have to happen is all four of these things:- A Representative objects (that will happen)
- A Senator objects (will probably happen)
- Senate votes to uphold the objection (Possible)
- House vote to uphold the objection (Almost impossible)
Anyone disagree that all four of those things would have to happen? Because, well, I'll never be at 100% until the inauguration is complete.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
And#3 and #4 are straight votes, not state delegation.HughFreakingDillon said:
for kind of a plebe like me, i BELIEVE you are right, but can't be sure. it's such a convoluted process.OnWis97 said:HughFreakingDillon said:
k, it IS possible, but highly, highly improbable. especially since Mitch McTurtle already told his senators to stand down.mfc2006 said:
Nope. It’s over. The people that are saying this nonsense are full of shit.HughFreakingDillon said:what are people going on about online about some shit pence can pull to give trump the win? these people are delusional, correct? there's nothing that pence can do on Jan 7th, is there?
https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/america-votes/fact-check-is-the-choice-of-the-next-u-s-president-up-to-mike-pence-now-1.5233798As I metioned in the other thread, the people pushing the narrative seem to think that 1) Pence is more than a senate tiebreaker and 2) the House would be one vote per state (like in the no-EC-majority scenario).So what I THINK would have to happen is all four of these things:- A Representative objects (that will happen)
- A Senator objects (will probably happen)
- Senate votes to uphold the objection (Possible)
- House vote to uphold the objection (Almost impossible)
Anyone disagree that all four of those things would have to happen? Because, well, I'll never be at 100% until the inauguration is complete.0 -
Yeah, both chambers need to overturn the election. Not a chance for either one. Pence is going to confirm the election and he's got his plane tickets to immediately leave the country0
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This is truly frightening. Thanks Tricky Team Trump TREASON Tax Cheat. What a total and complete train wreck for the past 4 years.
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This is such a big deal, and nothing from the administration.Halifax2TheMax said:This is truly frightening. Thanks Tricky Team Trump TREASON Tax Cheat. What a total and complete train wreck for the past 4 years.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/16/opinion/fireeye-solarwinds-russia-hack.html
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/530738-romney-stunning-for-white-house-not-to-respond-on-russian-cyberattack
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Still think a PTAPE doesn’t exist? How is it that Putin on the ritz pulls this off and not a word, not a peep, nothing, zilch, nada from Tricky Team Trump TREASON Tax Cheat?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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If you haven’t read the Letter From an American, you should. Unfuckingbelievable. LoserTricky Team Trump TREASON Tax Cheat should be tried for TREASON. Totally failed at swearing to protect the US.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Nothing about this or the 300K+ dead from the virus... all they're worried about is fighting for trump to keep a job he doesn't even want.mrussel1 said:
This is such a big deal, and nothing from the administration.Halifax2TheMax said:This is truly frightening. Thanks Tricky Team Trump TREASON Tax Cheat. What a total and complete train wreck for the past 4 years.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/16/opinion/fireeye-solarwinds-russia-hack.html
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/530738-romney-stunning-for-white-house-not-to-respond-on-russian-cyberattack
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Can’t come fast enough. What other damage will Tricky Team Trump TREASON Tax Cheat do on his way out the door?mickeyrat said:32 days......09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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I don’t think the tape exists but he’s clearly working for Russia. I think he was broke and Vlad bailed him out. Quid pro quo? Da.Halifax2TheMax said:Still think a PTAPE doesn’t exist? How is it that Putin on the ritz pulls this off and not a word, not a peep, nothing, zilch, nada from Tricky Team Trump TREASON Tax Cheat?1995 Milwaukee 1998 Alpine, Alpine 2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston 2004 Boston, Boston 2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty) 2011 Alpine, Alpine
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Yeah, it’s fucked up. Ugh.Halifax2TheMax said:If you haven’t read the Letter From an American, you should. Unfuckingbelievable. LoserTricky Team Trump TREASON Tax Cheat should be tried for TREASON. Totally failed at swearing to protect the US.I LOVE MUSIC.
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