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I don't know it for a fact but Trumpy's "tough guy" little fingerprints are ALL OVER this Tehran incident.
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I tried and can't. Its from my ipad and can't copy and paste it. The membership is a work one and I can't remember the pw to log in on the pc. I'll find it.mickeyrat said:mrussel1 said:
1. I seriously doubt that I said that Michigan was definitely but at the end of the day..guess what genius.. Trump lost Michigan. So what's your point, that I was right, but wasn't super right?BS44325 said:
1. The Whitmer plot was real. You said because of the plot Michigan was lost for the GOP. The citizens would rally around her! I brought up James and said it's interesting that he is doing better then expected even with the plot. You then went into your polls...but not Trafalgar of course...which were apparently evidence of your theory. Your polls were wrong. So was your theory.mrussel1 said:
1. The Whitmer plot was real. What's the debate? I said the plot ended the race? Where did I say that? By the way, Trump lost Michigan pretty handily.BS44325 said:
Thanks for proving my point on your Whitmer Plot Theory. The late polls narrowed for both Trump and James following the incident and your bold prediction. The Plot didn't end the race and you had to give each poll their most generous MOE (all coincidentally off in the same direction) to claim you weren't horribly off...again. What else are you consistently wrong about?mrussel1 said:
How did the US - North Korea meeting go? You're declaring 'winning' because there was a meeting? You're declaring 'winning' because the results were closer than the polls? The late polls (three of them) were all +5 with a 3.4 MOE. The final margin was 1.7 so the polls were wrong by .1. Give me a break. The reality is that Trump's presidency was a failure on the big issues. North Korea, Iran, Pandemic, economy, healthcare. All failures. Because some second level middle east countries normalized relationships is hardly the same as settling the West Bank issue which is THE issue in the Middle East along with Iran. Other key issues like the Yemeni war have not even been touched. And the American people rewarded Trump with an ass whooping, the kind we simply don't see very often in presidential races. Winning, indeed.BS44325 said:
Easy man...people on here aren't cool with meltdowns. Did I predict the assassination? Of course not and you know it. I did predict opportunity in defeat though especially with regards to the middle east. Israel met with the Saudis last week...pretty huge news...assassination of the most important nuclear scientist of a terror state followed. Are they related? Who knows but it in my eyes it is "winning". Also in with respect to John James... easy on your revisionist history as it levels your credibility. I did not predict his victory and again you know that. I stated that it would be closer then your amazing polls would suggest and that your Whitmer Plot theory would hold no water. That analysis seems to be correct. The insecurities in this forum are very strange. The way you all make it sound I would be the one having the meltdown?mrussel1 said:
Oh man, assassinations are the best. Did you predict that one too, like your amazing accuracy? Are you lending a hand to senator- elect John James's transition plan? So much delicious winning for you.BS44325 said:
The vaccine is lemonade...mrussel1 said:
Dude.. seriously. I get lemonade out of lemons but cmon.BS44325 said:
Didn't see the presser. Did see the news on the Supreme Court verdict, Israel meeting with the Saudis, and most incredibly the vaccine roll out. Seems like winning to me...although I guess it depends on what one chooses to focus on. With you remaining obsessed with Trump and the election challenges it makes me wonder how you are feeling? Where's your confidence? If only there was a vaccine for TDS.Halifax2TheMax said:@BS44325 is this presser what you would call winning? 4 years? How you feeling? Confident? I’m sure you watched the whole thing, start to finish, being studious as you are, eh professor?
And on the vaccine, if you think Trump managed the pandemic well, then you have to be insane. Even yesterday he's tweeting out to people to "gather". It's so reckless and stupid, that it's incomprehensible coming from a president.
So is this...
https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/iran/report-top-iranian-nuclear-scientist-assassinated-1.9332192
Fill up my cup. Mazel Tov!
2. MOE's work in both directions. That's, you know, statistics. Sorry if you hate science and math now. You're all in right wing I guess.
3. I don't declare anything as definitive. I'm too precise in my words to ever say anything as definitive, other than "I'm definitively playing golf on this beautiful November day because we have a lame duck president". That's a definitive statement.
4. Consistently wrong? My stretch prediction was 160mm votes and Biden winning by 10 million. I was wrong about the score, right about the outcome. You were wrong on all counts with your Trump trash talking. Let me guess, you hate the neocons and foreign wars now right? Think for yourself, bandwagon.
2. MOE's do work in both directions. It's just funny how often they are wrong in the SAME direction.
3. Seems like a bit of a walk back. Didn't realize when we were discussing your Whitmer Plot Theory that you actually didn't mean it. I wouldn't have wasted my time.
4. Good job on your stretch prediction...you're the forum's Nate Silver. I only predicted that it "felt like 2016" to me and on the whole I think I was more right then wrong. Polls were off by quite a bit and Trump grew his base support by about 10 million votes...certain states like Florida went yuge in his direction even though he lost ground in others. The GOP gained many seats in the house, held the Senate (so far), and won big down ballot including state legislators responsible for redistricting. So you get the Biden victory and I pretty much get the rest. That's called winning!
Now in terms of the foreign wars I like some and not others...still a neocon. Assassinating Iranian terrorists is right up my alley. But with respect to pulling out troops from Iraq and Afghanistan I'm pretty agnostic right now. With ISIS defeated and Iran back on their heels the current troop presence might not be necessary. That's kind of what happens after "winning". I suppose Biden could be forced to do the "opposite of trump" and keep them there to which I will not complain one bit but my guess is he will maintain current policy while being applauded the whole way. Who knows? With the team who gave you ISIS/Libya/Syria taking over anything can happen.
2. MOE's are the random result, it can work in any direction any number of times. Argue with math, not me.
3. Again, I don't declare things as definitive. That's not a walk back, that's years of being in business and being a Browns fan.
4. The GOP did gain where Trump lost. That tells you that Trump was enormously unpopular and people were ticket splitting, particularly in Georgia. Winning, eh? I made no predictions around the House, did you? Regarding the Senate, I guessed Peters and was right. I thought Tillis would win after the Cunningham affair. I was locked in that Kelly would win in AZ. The only result that surprised me was Collins. I don't recall you ever opining on that race, but feel free to find your call in that and quote it.
Is this winning too? After North Korea, didn't you learn anything? https://www.wsj.com/articles/secret-meeting-in-desert-between-israeli-saudi-leaders-failed-to-reach-normalization-agreement-11606508754
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HughFreakingDillon said:
you certainly are welcome to.Bentleyspop said:Do Americans troll the Canadian politics thread?
but we all know most americans only care about what goes on within their own shores.
I really appreciate you and others who are not Americans giving us your perspective (I think Bentleys' comment was meant for one poster, not all non-U.S. posters). I think it's super helpful and interesting to see how others look at us as a nation. And we should listen. The U.S. has a HUGE influence on what happens in most parts of the rest of the world, and you have all the reason in the world to voice an opinion.I have friends in Germany who give me both a reflection of the things that makes this country great (they love visiting here), and the things that bring us much shame (especially these last four years.)"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
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You think MSB is a good ally? Just curious on your take about Trump's alliance with the Saudis, their sponsorship on 9/11 and the criminal war in Yeman.Post edited by mrussel1 on0 -
Actually I was curious if there were any Americans who troll the Canadian politics thread.brianlux said:HughFreakingDillon said:
you certainly are welcome to.Bentleyspop said:Do Americans troll the Canadian politics thread?
but we all know most americans only care about what goes on within their own shores.I really appreciate you and others who are not Americans giving us your perspective (I think Bentleys' comment was meant for one poster, not all non-U.S. posters). I think it's super helpful and interesting to see how others look at us as a nation. And we should listen. The U.S. has a HUGE influence on what happens in most parts of the rest of the world, and you have all the reason in the world to voice an opinion.I have friends in Germany who give me both a reflection of the things that makes this country great (they love visiting here), and the things that bring us much shame (especially these last four years.)
I know almost nothing about their politics and politicians so I don't go on there.
I too am interested in the opinions of non-Americans but don't understand a non-American showing support for a racist xenophobe.
I regularly receive comments, opinions, and questions from friends and family in other countries regard the current American political shitstorm and they are all happy that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris were elected.0 -
Yeah, my non-U.S. friends are happy and even sound relieved. Me too!Bentleyspop said:
Actually I was curious if there were any Americans who troll the Canadian politics thread.brianlux said:HughFreakingDillon said:
you certainly are welcome to.Bentleyspop said:Do Americans troll the Canadian politics thread?
but we all know most americans only care about what goes on within their own shores.I really appreciate you and others who are not Americans giving us your perspective (I think Bentleys' comment was meant for one poster, not all non-U.S. posters). I think it's super helpful and interesting to see how others look at us as a nation. And we should listen. The U.S. has a HUGE influence on what happens in most parts of the rest of the world, and you have all the reason in the world to voice an opinion.I have friends in Germany who give me both a reflection of the things that makes this country great (they love visiting here), and the things that bring us much shame (especially these last four years.)
I know almost nothing about their politics and politicians so I don't go on there.
I too am interested in the opinions of non-Americans but don't understand a non-American showing support for a racist xenophobe.
I regularly receive comments, opinions, and questions from friends and family in other countries regard the current American political shitstorm and they are all happy that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris were elected.
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You think MSB is a good ally? Just curious on your take about Trump's alliance with the Saudis, their sponsorship on 9/11 and the criminal war in Yeman.When news is consumed from memes and FB....Facts and reason will escape them0 -
MSB has real problems with Trump leaving. Biden already indicated he would curtail arms sales and treat the Saudis like a pariah state. There will be consequences for the murder and other actions.Smellyman said:mrussel1 said:
ScaryChoccoloccotide said:
You think MSB is a good ally? Just curious on your take about Trump's alliance with the Saudis, their sponsorship on 9/11 and the criminal war in Yeman.When news is consumed from memes and FB....Facts and reason will escape them0 -
Really really good episode here about all of these dynamics from The Weeds. I highly suggest listening to it if you're into all this:mrussel1 said:
MSB has real problems with Trump leaving. Biden already indicated he would curtail arms sales and treat the Saudis like a pariah state. There will be consequences for the murder and other actions.Smellyman said:mrussel1 said:
ScaryChoccoloccotide said:
You think MSB is a good ally? Just curious on your take about Trump's alliance with the Saudis, their sponsorship on 9/11 and the criminal war in Yeman.When news is consumed from memes and FB....Facts and reason will escape them
https://podcasts.google.com/?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5tZWdhcGhvbmUuZm0vdGhld2VlZHM&ep=14&episode=ZjBhMzg2YWMtMDBlMi0xMWVhLWEzYzgtYzdjNTYyZTY3NDg3&pe=1&pep=0
That's a shitty link, but where ever you listen to podcasts I'd give it a listen.0 -
Is anyone surprised?
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mrussel1 said:
MSB has real problems with Trump leaving. Biden already indicated he would curtail arms sales and treat the Saudis like a pariah state. There will be consequences for the murder and other actions.Smellyman said:mrussel1 said:
ScaryChoccoloccotide said:
You think MSB is a good ally? Just curious on your take about Trump's alliance with the Saudis, their sponsorship on 9/11 and the criminal war in Yeman.When news is consumed from memes and FB....Facts and reason will escape themArgh! Acronyms! What are you guys talking about here?
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"A fool and his money..."
Trump supporter who gave $2.5m to fight election fraud wants money back
Businessman Fredric Eshelman sues pro-Trump ‘election ethics’ group citing ‘disappointing results’ of effort to expose cheating.
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Sucker of a large magnitude. SAD!brianlux said:"A fool and his money..."Trump supporter who gave $2.5m to fight election fraud wants money back
Businessman Fredric Eshelman sues pro-Trump ‘election ethics’ group citing ‘disappointing results’ of effort to expose cheating.
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brianlux said:mrussel1 said:
MSB has real problems with Trump leaving. Biden already indicated he would curtail arms sales and treat the Saudis like a pariah state. There will be consequences for the murder and other actions.Smellyman said:mrussel1 said:
ScaryChoccoloccotide said:
You think MSB is a good ally? Just curious on your take about Trump's alliance with the Saudis, their sponsorship on 9/11 and the criminal war in Yeman.When news is consumed from memes and FB....Facts and reason will escape themArgh! Acronyms! What are you guys talking about here?
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Smellyman said:brianlux said:mrussel1 said:
MSB has real problems with Trump leaving. Biden already indicated he would curtail arms sales and treat the Saudis like a pariah state. There will be consequences for the murder and other actions.Smellyman said:mrussel1 said:
ScaryChoccoloccotide said:
You think MSB is a good ally? Just curious on your take about Trump's alliance with the Saudis, their sponsorship on 9/11 and the criminal war in Yeman.When news is consumed from memes and FB....Facts and reason will escape themArgh! Acronyms! What are you guys talking about here?
It's annoying
There is only one thing I like about acronyms and that it the word "acronym" itself. It's a very interesting word. But yeah, acronyms themselves are, well, they are...
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brianlux said:mrussel1 said:
MSB has real problems with Trump leaving. Biden already indicated he would curtail arms sales and treat the Saudis like a pariah state. There will be consequences for the murder and other actions.Smellyman said:mrussel1 said:
ScaryChoccoloccotide said:
You think MSB is a good ally? Just curious on your take about Trump's alliance with the Saudis, their sponsorship on 9/11 and the criminal war in Yeman.When news is consumed from memes and FB....Facts and reason will escape themArgh! Acronyms! What are you guys talking about here?
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