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They think it’s less than the flu because “they are counting all flu deaths as corona virus deaths” as I’ve been told. Truly crazyMayDay10 said:
They believe that the Covid story is overblown by the "media" and the "left" in order to make trump look bad and lose the election. They believe the 'story' will vanish after election day.OnWis97 said:cincybearcat said:
I can't understand how people could see this and be like..."See Covid's not so bad. If I get it I just get a helicopter ride to my own personal suite. I get a team of doctors, all the latest equipment and even experimental drugs. The after a few days, even though I'm still visibly not well and breathing is hard I will go back to WORK!!!!"MayDay10 said:he is obviously going to press hard framing:
Biden as the guy who will shut everything down and keep it that way....
versus
Trump, who will make sure we immediately have normal life begin again. Kids in school, tailgating at football games, no masks, rallies, etc...It's baffling. 210,000 people have died but Trump (is tricking them into believing that he) has gotten better quickly so they're like "pfffft...it's nothing; an inconvenient four days." I think the following things play into it: The cult-like devotion to Trump; the ignorance of data in favor of anecdotes (that tell the story they hope to hear); unwillingness to admit to being wrong about anything ever; just plain lack of critical thinking.
And, just to look like a tough guy, Trump is telling people that it was no big deal; people that he knows would follow him off of a cliff. This might be the most irresponsible thing he's ever done (though the competition for that distinction is quite fierce).
I have heard the anecdote about the person in hospice with Cancer who got covid while dying and the death counted as a Covid death like 50 times, whether its an Aunt, Grandpa, Friend's dad, friend who works in a hospital told me, etc.
So they do not believe it is 210,000. They believe its roughly in line with the flu. Now Trump going down for a few days and "felling better than he has in 20 years" will just confirm that.Scio me nihil scire
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cincybearcat said:
I can't understand how people could see this and be like..."See Covid's not so bad. If I get it I just get a helicopter ride to my own personal suite. I get a team of doctors, all the latest equipment and even experimental drugs. The after a few days, even though I'm still visibly not well and breathing is hard I will go back to WORK!!!!"MayDay10 said:he is obviously going to press hard framing:
Biden as the guy who will shut everything down and keep it that way....
versus
Trump, who will make sure we immediately have normal life begin again. Kids in school, tailgating at football games, no masks, rallies, etc...It doesn't matter.Just like 2016, people will vote for him with smiles on their faces and blame liberals for leaving them with no choice... something about 'liberal elitism' or some nonsense, which is priceless considering the whole 'party of personal responsibility' bullshit.0 -
I love how some of these people act like this is the first time they have backed a politician. Must not have been around for VFC “Kerry is less scary” tour.goldrush said:Seattle photographer Charles Peterson posted this on Instagram earlier:
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is there not some truth to that?MayDay10 said:
They believe that the Covid story is overblown by the "media" and the "left" in order to make trump look bad and lose the election. They believe the 'story' will vanish after election day.OnWis97 said:cincybearcat said:
I can't understand how people could see this and be like..."See Covid's not so bad. If I get it I just get a helicopter ride to my own personal suite. I get a team of doctors, all the latest equipment and even experimental drugs. The after a few days, even though I'm still visibly not well and breathing is hard I will go back to WORK!!!!"MayDay10 said:he is obviously going to press hard framing:
Biden as the guy who will shut everything down and keep it that way....
versus
Trump, who will make sure we immediately have normal life begin again. Kids in school, tailgating at football games, no masks, rallies, etc...It's baffling. 210,000 people have died but Trump (is tricking them into believing that he) has gotten better quickly so they're like "pfffft...it's nothing; an inconvenient four days." I think the following things play into it: The cult-like devotion to Trump; the ignorance of data in favor of anecdotes (that tell the story they hope to hear); unwillingness to admit to being wrong about anything ever; just plain lack of critical thinking.
And, just to look like a tough guy, Trump is telling people that it was no big deal; people that he knows would follow him off of a cliff. This might be the most irresponsible thing he's ever done (though the competition for that distinction is quite fierce).
I have heard the anecdote about the person in hospice with Cancer who got covid while dying and the death counted as a Covid death like 50 times, whether its an Aunt, Grandpa, Friend's dad, friend who works in a hospital told me, etc.
So they do not believe it is 210,000. They believe its roughly in line with the flu. Now Trump going down for a few days and "felling better than he has in 20 years" will just confirm that.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
We will know two things on November 4:HughFreakingDillon said:man, i can't fucking wait until nov 4.- Jack
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An article I read this morning got me to worrying, something I rarely do (OK, that last part is totally false, haha!) HOw likely are these things to happen?
"There is now a very real danger of a vicious cycle. Desperation fuels Trump’s unpopularity, which triggers more desperation. Americans are already exhausted by October surprises, and the nation is only five days into the month. The calendar is unfurling towards the 3 November vote with a president who has little to lose from gambling.
The principal victims of his lack of empathy so far have been the concentric circles of supporters around him. In the coming weeks the collateral damage from his panic is likely to spread further afield. The president is already openly calling his supporters to gather at the polls as “watchers” on election day, and primed them to expect a vote rigged against their leader.
No one doubts now that he would take chaos and bloodshed over defeat, and the implications may not stop at the nation’s shore, with the greatest fear being a combination of a foreign adversary seeking to exploit a weakened administration, and a commander in chief ready to do anything to avoid looking weak."
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So basically the Trumpocalypsebrianlux said:An article I read this morning got me to worrying, something I rarely do (OK, that last part is totally false, haha!) HOw likely are these things to happen?"There is now a very real danger of a vicious cycle. Desperation fuels Trump’s unpopularity, which triggers more desperation. Americans are already exhausted by October surprises, and the nation is only five days into the month. The calendar is unfurling towards the 3 November vote with a president who has little to lose from gambling.
The principal victims of his lack of empathy so far have been the concentric circles of supporters around him. In the coming weeks the collateral damage from his panic is likely to spread further afield. The president is already openly calling his supporters to gather at the polls as “watchers” on election day, and primed them to expect a vote rigged against their leader.
No one doubts now that he would take chaos and bloodshed over defeat, and the implications may not stop at the nation’s shore, with the greatest fear being a combination of a foreign adversary seeking to exploit a weakened administration, and a commander in chief ready to do anything to avoid looking weak."
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unless it's a blowout.dankind said:
We will know two things on November 4:HughFreakingDillon said:man, i can't fucking wait until nov 4.- Jack
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https://youtu.be/AytDzZ2ecCcBy The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Has it happened? Maybe? It is one of those garbage anecdotal accounts that everyone hears, watches a youtube vid, or reads on the internet and then passes it off as their own experience and expertise. Its the same method used by all the idiots wage war on vaccinations.HughFreakingDillon said:
is there not some truth to that?MayDay10 said:
They believe that the Covid story is overblown by the "media" and the "left" in order to make trump look bad and lose the election. They believe the 'story' will vanish after election day.OnWis97 said:cincybearcat said:
I can't understand how people could see this and be like..."See Covid's not so bad. If I get it I just get a helicopter ride to my own personal suite. I get a team of doctors, all the latest equipment and even experimental drugs. The after a few days, even though I'm still visibly not well and breathing is hard I will go back to WORK!!!!"MayDay10 said:he is obviously going to press hard framing:
Biden as the guy who will shut everything down and keep it that way....
versus
Trump, who will make sure we immediately have normal life begin again. Kids in school, tailgating at football games, no masks, rallies, etc...It's baffling. 210,000 people have died but Trump (is tricking them into believing that he) has gotten better quickly so they're like "pfffft...it's nothing; an inconvenient four days." I think the following things play into it: The cult-like devotion to Trump; the ignorance of data in favor of anecdotes (that tell the story they hope to hear); unwillingness to admit to being wrong about anything ever; just plain lack of critical thinking.
And, just to look like a tough guy, Trump is telling people that it was no big deal; people that he knows would follow him off of a cliff. This might be the most irresponsible thing he's ever done (though the competition for that distinction is quite fierce).
I have heard the anecdote about the person in hospice with Cancer who got covid while dying and the death counted as a Covid death like 50 times, whether its an Aunt, Grandpa, Friend's dad, friend who works in a hospital told me, etc.
So they do not believe it is 210,000. They believe its roughly in line with the flu. Now Trump going down for a few days and "felling better than he has in 20 years" will just confirm that.
I doubt there is a conspiracy for doctors to count as many deaths as possible as Covid to make Donald Trump look bad.0 -
no, i don't think it's a conspiracy thing. I can't recall where I heard or read it, or if it's even reputable. i just thought I had read that if you have two morbitities, and one is covid, it's listed as a covid death. obviously not if you are positive and get hit by a bus, but like something like you mentioned. I'd have to look into this to confirm/debunk it.MayDay10 said:
Has it happened? Maybe? It is one of those garbage anecdotal accounts that everyone hears, watches a youtube vid, or reads on the internet and then passes it off as their own experience and expertise. Its the same method used by all the idiots wage war on vaccinations.HughFreakingDillon said:
is there not some truth to that?MayDay10 said:
They believe that the Covid story is overblown by the "media" and the "left" in order to make trump look bad and lose the election. They believe the 'story' will vanish after election day.OnWis97 said:cincybearcat said:
I can't understand how people could see this and be like..."See Covid's not so bad. If I get it I just get a helicopter ride to my own personal suite. I get a team of doctors, all the latest equipment and even experimental drugs. The after a few days, even though I'm still visibly not well and breathing is hard I will go back to WORK!!!!"MayDay10 said:he is obviously going to press hard framing:
Biden as the guy who will shut everything down and keep it that way....
versus
Trump, who will make sure we immediately have normal life begin again. Kids in school, tailgating at football games, no masks, rallies, etc...It's baffling. 210,000 people have died but Trump (is tricking them into believing that he) has gotten better quickly so they're like "pfffft...it's nothing; an inconvenient four days." I think the following things play into it: The cult-like devotion to Trump; the ignorance of data in favor of anecdotes (that tell the story they hope to hear); unwillingness to admit to being wrong about anything ever; just plain lack of critical thinking.
And, just to look like a tough guy, Trump is telling people that it was no big deal; people that he knows would follow him off of a cliff. This might be the most irresponsible thing he's ever done (though the competition for that distinction is quite fierce).
I have heard the anecdote about the person in hospice with Cancer who got covid while dying and the death counted as a Covid death like 50 times, whether its an Aunt, Grandpa, Friend's dad, friend who works in a hospital told me, etc.
So they do not believe it is 210,000. They believe its roughly in line with the flu. Now Trump going down for a few days and "felling better than he has in 20 years" will just confirm that.
I doubt there is a conspiracy for doctors to count as many deaths as possible as Covid to make Donald Trump look bad.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
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no, i don't think it's a conspiracy thing. I can't recall where I heard or read it, or if it's even reputable. i just thought I had read that if you have two morbitities, and one is covid, it's listed as a covid death. obviously not if you are positive and get hit by a bus, but like something like you mentioned. I'd have to look into this to confirm/debunk it.MayDay10 said:
Has it happened? Maybe? It is one of those garbage anecdotal accounts that everyone hears, watches a youtube vid, or reads on the internet and then passes it off as their own experience and expertise. Its the same method used by all the idiots wage war on vaccinations.HughFreakingDillon said:
is there not some truth to that?MayDay10 said:
They believe that the Covid story is overblown by the "media" and the "left" in order to make trump look bad and lose the election. They believe the 'story' will vanish after election day.OnWis97 said:cincybearcat said:
I can't understand how people could see this and be like..."See Covid's not so bad. If I get it I just get a helicopter ride to my own personal suite. I get a team of doctors, all the latest equipment and even experimental drugs. The after a few days, even though I'm still visibly not well and breathing is hard I will go back to WORK!!!!"MayDay10 said:he is obviously going to press hard framing:
Biden as the guy who will shut everything down and keep it that way....
versus
Trump, who will make sure we immediately have normal life begin again. Kids in school, tailgating at football games, no masks, rallies, etc...It's baffling. 210,000 people have died but Trump (is tricking them into believing that he) has gotten better quickly so they're like "pfffft...it's nothing; an inconvenient four days." I think the following things play into it: The cult-like devotion to Trump; the ignorance of data in favor of anecdotes (that tell the story they hope to hear); unwillingness to admit to being wrong about anything ever; just plain lack of critical thinking.
And, just to look like a tough guy, Trump is telling people that it was no big deal; people that he knows would follow him off of a cliff. This might be the most irresponsible thing he's ever done (though the competition for that distinction is quite fierce).
I have heard the anecdote about the person in hospice with Cancer who got covid while dying and the death counted as a Covid death like 50 times, whether its an Aunt, Grandpa, Friend's dad, friend who works in a hospital told me, etc.
So they do not believe it is 210,000. They believe its roughly in line with the flu. Now Trump going down for a few days and "felling better than he has in 20 years" will just confirm that.
I doubt there is a conspiracy for doctors to count as many deaths as possible as Covid to make Donald Trump look bad.
There probably have been some cases where someone had a terminal condition and COVID was attributed as the cause of death, but IMO the excess mortality rate for the US in 2020 speaks for itself.
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yeah, I wasn't thinking it was a significant amount, or even a blip. just curious if it's done that way in any case. i found this:Merkin Baller said:HughFreakingDillon said:
no, i don't think it's a conspiracy thing. I can't recall where I heard or read it, or if it's even reputable. i just thought I had read that if you have two morbitities, and one is covid, it's listed as a covid death. obviously not if you are positive and get hit by a bus, but like something like you mentioned. I'd have to look into this to confirm/debunk it.MayDay10 said:
Has it happened? Maybe? It is one of those garbage anecdotal accounts that everyone hears, watches a youtube vid, or reads on the internet and then passes it off as their own experience and expertise. Its the same method used by all the idiots wage war on vaccinations.HughFreakingDillon said:
is there not some truth to that?MayDay10 said:
They believe that the Covid story is overblown by the "media" and the "left" in order to make trump look bad and lose the election. They believe the 'story' will vanish after election day.OnWis97 said:cincybearcat said:
I can't understand how people could see this and be like..."See Covid's not so bad. If I get it I just get a helicopter ride to my own personal suite. I get a team of doctors, all the latest equipment and even experimental drugs. The after a few days, even though I'm still visibly not well and breathing is hard I will go back to WORK!!!!"MayDay10 said:he is obviously going to press hard framing:
Biden as the guy who will shut everything down and keep it that way....
versus
Trump, who will make sure we immediately have normal life begin again. Kids in school, tailgating at football games, no masks, rallies, etc...It's baffling. 210,000 people have died but Trump (is tricking them into believing that he) has gotten better quickly so they're like "pfffft...it's nothing; an inconvenient four days." I think the following things play into it: The cult-like devotion to Trump; the ignorance of data in favor of anecdotes (that tell the story they hope to hear); unwillingness to admit to being wrong about anything ever; just plain lack of critical thinking.
And, just to look like a tough guy, Trump is telling people that it was no big deal; people that he knows would follow him off of a cliff. This might be the most irresponsible thing he's ever done (though the competition for that distinction is quite fierce).
I have heard the anecdote about the person in hospice with Cancer who got covid while dying and the death counted as a Covid death like 50 times, whether its an Aunt, Grandpa, Friend's dad, friend who works in a hospital told me, etc.
So they do not believe it is 210,000. They believe its roughly in line with the flu. Now Trump going down for a few days and "felling better than he has in 20 years" will just confirm that.
I doubt there is a conspiracy for doctors to count as many deaths as possible as Covid to make Donald Trump look bad.
There probably have been some cases where someone had a terminal condition and COVID was attributed as the cause of death, but IMO the excess mortality rate for the US in 2020 speaks for itself.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm
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The other conspiracy is if they count it as a covid death their hospital gets $$$. When you then bring up that if what they say is true that is a major argument against for profit health care, their brains really start smoking.MayDay10 said:
Has it happened? Maybe? It is one of those garbage anecdotal accounts that everyone hears, watches a youtube vid, or reads on the internet and then passes it off as their own experience and expertise. Its the same method used by all the idiots wage war on vaccinations.HughFreakingDillon said:
is there not some truth to that?MayDay10 said:
They believe that the Covid story is overblown by the "media" and the "left" in order to make trump look bad and lose the election. They believe the 'story' will vanish after election day.OnWis97 said:cincybearcat said:
I can't understand how people could see this and be like..."See Covid's not so bad. If I get it I just get a helicopter ride to my own personal suite. I get a team of doctors, all the latest equipment and even experimental drugs. The after a few days, even though I'm still visibly not well and breathing is hard I will go back to WORK!!!!"MayDay10 said:he is obviously going to press hard framing:
Biden as the guy who will shut everything down and keep it that way....
versus
Trump, who will make sure we immediately have normal life begin again. Kids in school, tailgating at football games, no masks, rallies, etc...It's baffling. 210,000 people have died but Trump (is tricking them into believing that he) has gotten better quickly so they're like "pfffft...it's nothing; an inconvenient four days." I think the following things play into it: The cult-like devotion to Trump; the ignorance of data in favor of anecdotes (that tell the story they hope to hear); unwillingness to admit to being wrong about anything ever; just plain lack of critical thinking.
And, just to look like a tough guy, Trump is telling people that it was no big deal; people that he knows would follow him off of a cliff. This might be the most irresponsible thing he's ever done (though the competition for that distinction is quite fierce).
I have heard the anecdote about the person in hospice with Cancer who got covid while dying and the death counted as a Covid death like 50 times, whether its an Aunt, Grandpa, Friend's dad, friend who works in a hospital told me, etc.
So they do not believe it is 210,000. They believe its roughly in line with the flu. Now Trump going down for a few days and "felling better than he has in 20 years" will just confirm that.
I doubt there is a conspiracy for doctors to count as many deaths as possible as Covid to make Donald Trump look bad.Scio me nihil scire
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You are likely familiar with the main story but seeing it develop behind the scenes was very interesting.
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The thing with the count is dipshits that want to subtract every case with underlying conditions instead of applying some tiny bit of logic. They also love to ignore the fact that disease and death are monetized for both noble and despicable causes.0
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MayDay10 said:
Has it happened? Maybe? It is one of those garbage anecdotal accounts that everyone hears, watches a youtube vid, or reads on the internet and then passes it off as their own experience and expertise. Its the same method used by all the idiots wage war on vaccinations.HughFreakingDillon said:
is there not some truth to that?MayDay10 said:
They believe that the Covid story is overblown by the "media" and the "left" in order to make trump look bad and lose the election. They believe the 'story' will vanish after election day.OnWis97 said:cincybearcat said:
I can't understand how people could see this and be like..."See Covid's not so bad. If I get it I just get a helicopter ride to my own personal suite. I get a team of doctors, all the latest equipment and even experimental drugs. The after a few days, even though I'm still visibly not well and breathing is hard I will go back to WORK!!!!"MayDay10 said:he is obviously going to press hard framing:
Biden as the guy who will shut everything down and keep it that way....
versus
Trump, who will make sure we immediately have normal life begin again. Kids in school, tailgating at football games, no masks, rallies, etc...It's baffling. 210,000 people have died but Trump (is tricking them into believing that he) has gotten better quickly so they're like "pfffft...it's nothing; an inconvenient four days." I think the following things play into it: The cult-like devotion to Trump; the ignorance of data in favor of anecdotes (that tell the story they hope to hear); unwillingness to admit to being wrong about anything ever; just plain lack of critical thinking.
And, just to look like a tough guy, Trump is telling people that it was no big deal; people that he knows would follow him off of a cliff. This might be the most irresponsible thing he's ever done (though the competition for that distinction is quite fierce).
I have heard the anecdote about the person in hospice with Cancer who got covid while dying and the death counted as a Covid death like 50 times, whether its an Aunt, Grandpa, Friend's dad, friend who works in a hospital told me, etc.
So they do not believe it is 210,000. They believe its roughly in line with the flu. Now Trump going down for a few days and "felling better than he has in 20 years" will just confirm that.
I doubt there is a conspiracy for doctors to count as many deaths as possible as Covid to make Donald Trump look bad.Meanwhile, I've lived for 40 years with asthma. If I catch Covid next week and die next month, there are people that would like to attribute that to asthma and not Covid (like that little CDC "leak" that suggested only 10,000 people had died.And, yeah, that is a...well not a conspiracy so much as a deliberate manipulation to make Trump look good and to "help the economy."1995 Milwaukee 1998 Alpine, Alpine 2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston 2004 Boston, Boston 2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty) 2011 Alpine, Alpine
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OnWis97 said:MayDay10 said:
Has it happened? Maybe? It is one of those garbage anecdotal accounts that everyone hears, watches a youtube vid, or reads on the internet and then passes it off as their own experience and expertise. Its the same method used by all the idiots wage war on vaccinations.HughFreakingDillon said:
is there not some truth to that?MayDay10 said:
They believe that the Covid story is overblown by the "media" and the "left" in order to make trump look bad and lose the election. They believe the 'story' will vanish after election day.OnWis97 said:cincybearcat said:
I can't understand how people could see this and be like..."See Covid's not so bad. If I get it I just get a helicopter ride to my own personal suite. I get a team of doctors, all the latest equipment and even experimental drugs. The after a few days, even though I'm still visibly not well and breathing is hard I will go back to WORK!!!!"MayDay10 said:he is obviously going to press hard framing:
Biden as the guy who will shut everything down and keep it that way....
versus
Trump, who will make sure we immediately have normal life begin again. Kids in school, tailgating at football games, no masks, rallies, etc...It's baffling. 210,000 people have died but Trump (is tricking them into believing that he) has gotten better quickly so they're like "pfffft...it's nothing; an inconvenient four days." I think the following things play into it: The cult-like devotion to Trump; the ignorance of data in favor of anecdotes (that tell the story they hope to hear); unwillingness to admit to being wrong about anything ever; just plain lack of critical thinking.
And, just to look like a tough guy, Trump is telling people that it was no big deal; people that he knows would follow him off of a cliff. This might be the most irresponsible thing he's ever done (though the competition for that distinction is quite fierce).
I have heard the anecdote about the person in hospice with Cancer who got covid while dying and the death counted as a Covid death like 50 times, whether its an Aunt, Grandpa, Friend's dad, friend who works in a hospital told me, etc.
So they do not believe it is 210,000. They believe its roughly in line with the flu. Now Trump going down for a few days and "felling better than he has in 20 years" will just confirm that.
I doubt there is a conspiracy for doctors to count as many deaths as possible as Covid to make Donald Trump look bad.Meanwhile, I've lived for 40 years with asthma. If I catch Covid next week and die next month, there are people that would like to attribute that to asthma and not Covid (like that little CDC "leak" that suggested only 10,000 people had died.And, yeah, that is a...well not a conspiracy so much as a deliberate manipulation to make Trump look good and to "help the economy."
Spot on... plenty of people can live productive lives with asthma, diabetes, mild obesity & many other conditions.... but I've seen many conservative pundits suggest these are co-morbidities which shouldn't count as covid deaths...At the end of the day, it's just one more conservative talking point aimed at minimizing the impact of a virus that's turning out to be a pretty frigging major mass mortality event for this country (4th largest if I'm not mistaken?).
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