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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,035
    Nothing like thinking of pussy while a world pandemic rages. And some on here think its beyond the realm of possibilities that a PTAPE exists:

    “I want to come way under the models,” he said on Friday, referring to casualty projections. “The professionals did the models. I was never involved in a model.”

    “At least this kind of model,” he added. No context like a pandemic for X-rated humor.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/06/opinion/trump-coronavirus-empathy.html

    Do you remember President George W. Bush’s remarks at Ground Zero in Manhattan after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks? I can still hear him speaking of national grief and national pride. This was before all the awful judgment calls and fatal mistakes, and it doesn’t excuse them. But it mattered, because it reassured us that our country’s leader was navigating some of the same emotional currents that we were.

    Do you remember President Barack Obama’s news conference after the school shooting in Newtown, Conn., that left 28 people, including 20 children, dead? I do. Freshest in my memory is how he fought back tears. He was hurting. He cared. And while we couldn’t bank on new laws to prevent the next massacre, we could at least hold on to that.

    One more question: Do you remember the moment when President Trump’s bearing and words made clear that he grasped not only the magnitude of this rapidly metastasizing pandemic but also our terror in the face of it?

    It passed me by, maybe because it never happened.

    In Trump’s predecessors, for all their imperfections, I could sense the beat of a heart and see the glimmer of a soul. In him I can’t, and that fills me with a sorrow and a rage that I quite frankly don’t know what to do with.

    Americans are dying by the thousands, and he gloats about what a huge, rapt television audience he has. They’re confronting financial ruin and not sure how they’ll continue to pay for food and shelter, and he reprimands governors for not treating him with adequate adulation.

    He’s not rising to the challenge before him, not even a millimeter. He’s shriveling into nothingness.

    On Friday, when Trump relayed a new recommendation by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention that all Americans wear face masks in public places, he went so far out of his way to stress that the coverings were voluntary and that he himself wouldn’t be going anywhere near one that he might as well have branded them Apparel for Skittish Losers. I’ve finally settled on his epitaph: “Donald J. Trump, too cool for the coronavirus.”

    This is more than a failure of empathy, which is how many observers have described his deficiency. It’s more than a failure of decency, which has been my go-to lament. It’s a failure of basic humanity.

    In The Washington Post a few days ago, Michael Gerson, a conservative who worked in Bush’s White House, wrote that Trump’s spirit is “a vast, trackless wasteland.” Not exactly trackless. There are gaudy outposts of ego all along the horizon.

    When the direness of this global health crisis began to be apparent, I was braced for the falsehoods and misinformation that are Trump’s trademarks. I was girded for the incompetence that defines an administration with such contempt for proper procedure and for true expertise.

    But what has taken me by surprise and torn me up inside are the aloofness, arrogance, pettiness, meanness, narcissism and solipsism that persist in Trump — that flourish in him — even during a once-in-a-lifetime emergency that demands something nobler. Under normal circumstances, these traits are galling. Under the current ones, they’re gutting.

    “I don’t take responsibility at all.” “Did you know I was number one on Facebook?” To bother with just one of those sentences while a nation trembles is disgusting. To bother with both, as Trump did, is perverse.

    He continues to bash the media, as if the virus were cooked up in the bowels of CNN. He continues to play blame games and to lord his station over those of a lesser political caste, turning governors into grovelers and suggesting that they’re whiny piggies at the federal trough.

    He continues his one-man orgy of self-congratulation, so that in the same breath recently he speculated about a toll of 100,000 deaths in America from Covid-19 and crowed about what a great job he’s doing.

    And he continues to taunt and smear his perceived political adversaries. Last week, on Fox News, he called Nancy Pelosi “a sick puppy.” This is how he chooses to spend his time and energy?

    At those beloved daily briefings of his, where he talks and talks and talks, he sometimes seems to regard what’s happening less as a devastating scourge than as a star-studded event. Just look at the nifty degree of prominence it’s conferring on everyone and everything involved! He has mused aloud about how well known Anthony Fauci has become. He has marveled at the disease’s celebrity profile.

    “Become a very famous term — C-O-V-I-D,” he said on Thursday. Was that envy in his voice?

    He leaps from tone deafness to some realm of complete sensory and moral deprivation.

    “I want to come way under the models,” he said on Friday, referring to casualty projections. “The professionals did the models. I was never involved in a model.”

    “At least this kind of model,” he added. No context like a pandemic for X-rated humor.

    It’s an extraordinary thing: to fill the air with so many words and have none of them carry any genuine sadness or stirring resolve.

    I can hear his admirers grumble that he doesn’t do camera-perfect emotions, that Obama was just a better actor, that Trump is the more authentic man.

    To which I answer: What’s the point of having a showman for a president if he can’t put on the right kind of show? Performances count, even if they’re just performances. And Trump clearly isn’t averse to artifice. Just look at his hair.

    A cheap shot? I’m feeling cheap. A loss of life and livelihoods on this scale will do that to you.

    As of this writing, at least 9,600 people with the coronavirus have died in the United States. That’s more than three times the number killed in the Sept. 11 attacks. New York State alone reported 630 new deaths on Saturday.  No school shooting has taken even a small fraction of as many lives.

    And while I’m not looking to Trump for any panacea, is it too much to ask for some sign that the dying has made an impression on him, that the crying has penetrated his carapace and that he’s thinking about something other than his ratings? I watch. I wait. I suspect I’ll be doing that forever.


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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,035
    Spurs14 said:

    Anyone who pulls the lever for this psychopath has clearly got something wrong with them. This timeline and reaction, or lack thereof, is criminal. Criminally negligent. At the least. But, you know, MAGA!
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,397
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Spurs14 said:

    Anyone who pulls the lever for this psychopath has clearly got something wrong with them. This timeline and reaction, or lack thereof, is criminal. Criminally negligent. At the least. But, you know, MAGA!
    But it's not all his fault.
    The bulk of the blame and fault lies with his....

    Advisors
    Believers
    Enablers
    Followers
    Supporters 
    Voters

    All of them and him are complicit in this disaster

    Every coronavirus death is on their hands

    But we know they don't  care as long as he claims to love christ, guns, and the american dollar. And hates abortion, foreigners, and any non-Christian religion.

  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,035
    Is Team Trump Treason really this stupid? Or are his followers?

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/07/politics/fact-check-trump-inherited-broken-obsolete-coronavirus-tests/index.html
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Is Team Trump Treason really this stupid? Or are his followers?

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/07/politics/fact-check-trump-inherited-broken-obsolete-coronavirus-tests/index.html
    I think he is that stupid, yes. Many of his followers are too. 
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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,956
    He's afraid if he told the truth, his nose would grow.
    If only he'd shrink every time he lies....our nightmare would be over by now.  :tongue:


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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,553
    Kat said:
    He's afraid if he told the truth, his nose would grow.
    If only he'd shrink every time he lies....our nightmare would be over by now.  :tongue:


    No doubt lol 
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Kat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    trump is unethically pushing for a treatment that has no proved efficacy. 

    in medicine, you have to have clinical rationale based on science before you should try any treatment. the number one rule is to not put your patient at risk. using an unproven treatment carries risk, potential allergic reaction, etc.
    I agree with this statement, but I also think we need to get it to trial.  So let's not make it a partisan issue.  
    I can't tell you how much this idea appeals to me but Barr is head of DOJ and the Conservative members of the Supreme Court have had their souls eaten. :( So now what do we do?
    Sorry, I meant trial as in testing this drug according to normal standards (but accelerated) so we can see if it really works and doesn't have side effects. 
  • cincybearcat
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    mfc2006 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    YOU BLEW IT is trending #1 on twitter. it is in response to trump tweet telling the WHO they blew it on corona. i am glad to see people giving it back to president dumbass.
    GOOD. What a POS.
    Well the WHO certainly wasn’t great. 

    This reminds me of the safety discussion about the swish cheese model. When the holes slog you have an incident. Well all the holes aligned on this one. China yet again...the Chinese government yet again...the WHO...The cdc...president trumps admin....the hospitals not having a pandemic plan.....all aligned. Any one of those could have made a significant impact. 
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,821
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    trump is unethically pushing for a treatment that has no scientifically proven efficacy against corona. corona is a novel virus that has never been seen before. 

    in medicine, you have to have clinical rationale based on science before you should try any treatment. the number one rule is to not put your patient at risk. using an unproven treatment carries risk, potential allergic reaction, etc.
    It’s a pandemic. And people are dying. Seems like perhaps we could figure out a little streamlined process. I mean if someone is dying....

    not talking just this medicine/treatment. Feels like the time you might take a risk cause the alternative is worse 
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,821
    Jesus the idiot just said

    ”I will protect you if you governor fails” 
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    cincybearcat said:
    mfc2006 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    YOU BLEW IT is trending #1 on twitter. it is in response to trump tweet telling the WHO they blew it on corona. i am glad to see people giving it back to president dumbass.
    GOOD. What a POS.
    Well the WHO certainly wasn’t great. 

    This reminds me of the safety discussion about the swish cheese model. When the holes slog you have an incident. Well all the holes aligned on this one. China yet again...the Chinese government yet again...the WHO...The cdc...president trumps admin....the hospitals not having a pandemic plan.....all aligned. Any one of those could have made a significant impact. 
    We don't vote for the WHO.  The President isn't obligated to follow recommendations from the WHO.  These are all red herrings.  Blaming China is fine with me so long as we're willing to restart the TPP and/or bringing manufacturing back here, and the resulting increase of 2-3X for our consumer goods.  We could also raise our taxes substantially to buy back the hundred of billions in US debt that China holds through bonds. 
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,340
    Acting Navy Sec resigns. Apparently flew to Guam to address the crew. It didnt go well.....


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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,035
    mickeyrat said:
    Acting Navy Sec resigns. Apparently flew to Guam to address the crew. It didnt go well.....


    Good riddance.
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  • Kat
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    mrussel1 said:
    Kat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    trump is unethically pushing for a treatment that has no proved efficacy. 

    in medicine, you have to have clinical rationale based on science before you should try any treatment. the number one rule is to not put your patient at risk. using an unproven treatment carries risk, potential allergic reaction, etc.
    I agree with this statement, but I also think we need to get it to trial.  So let's not make it a partisan issue.  
    I can't tell you how much this idea appeals to me but Barr is head of DOJ and the Conservative members of the Supreme Court have had their souls eaten. :( So now what do we do?
    Sorry, I meant trial as in testing this drug according to normal standards (but accelerated) so we can see if it really works and doesn't have side effects. 
    Oh duh. You can see where my mind went. Have a great evening. :)
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,340
    Pay CLOSE attention to this folks.......

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/trump-removes-inspector-general-who-was-to-oversee-2-trillion-stimulus-spending/2020/04/07/2f0c6cb8-78ea-11ea-9bee-c5bf9d2e3288_story.html

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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,340
    edited April 2020
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Gated posts
    corona related supposed to be free.....
    well I am not attempted to c/p from my phone because mobile and this website dont play well together.

    Would encourage seeking these stories from whatever news source you use.

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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,805
    Thanks I did find it with a search.
    Halifax said the same but it still gates me.  
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,340
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Thanks I did find it with a search.
    Halifax said the same but it still gates me.  
    wonder if registering with them helps? They do offer like 5 free a month, I think.
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