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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,030
    edited April 2020
    trump is unethically pushing for a treatment that has no scientifically proven efficacy against corona. corona is a novel virus that has never been seen before. 

    in medicine, you have to have clinical rationale based on science before you should try any treatment. the number one rule is to not put your patient at risk. using an unproven treatment carries risk, potential allergic reaction, etc.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    trump is unethically pushing for a treatment that has no proved efficacy. 

    in medicine, you have to have clinical rationale based on science before you should try any treatment. the number one rule is to not put your patient at risk. using an unproven treatment carries risk, potential allergic reaction, etc.
    I agree with this statement, but I also think we need to get it to trial.  So let's not make it a partisan issue.  
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    ikiT said:
    I don't believe in Pharma.  
    Do you believe they don't exist, like it's an illusion?
    Do you believe meds don't work, like they're all sugar pills?
    Are you a Scientologist?
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,212
    mrussel1 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    trump is unethically pushing for a treatment that has no proved efficacy. 

    in medicine, you have to have clinical rationale based on science before you should try any treatment. the number one rule is to not put your patient at risk. using an unproven treatment carries risk, potential allergic reaction, etc.
    I agree with this statement, but I also think we need to get it to trial.  So let's not make it a partisan issue.  
    I agree. Let’s not make this medicine a trump thing. I personally know someone who actually had great success with this medication. It was not looking good 6 days ago. He was discharged yesterday. Obviously this is one situation. But the doctors are using this drug in NY when the situation starts to look dire. He is 66 years old, no underlying illness besides high blood pressure which is controlled by his daily medication. 
  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    Not having health insurance will make you say some crazy shit.  

    Actually I just re-upped so I suppose a 4000 dollar deductible isn't TOO bad.
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  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    trump is unethically pushing for a treatment that has no scientifically proven efficacy against corona. corona is a novel virus that has never been seen before. 

    in medicine, you have to have clinical rationale based on science before you should try any treatment. the number one rule is to not put your patient at risk. using an unproven treatment carries risk, potential allergic reaction, etc.

    Firstly do no harm
    Then put your seatbelt on
    Buckle up
  • FiveBelow
    FiveBelow Posts: 1,332
    CM189191 said:
    oftenreading said:
    ikiT said:
    https://instagram.com/p/B-pnYd7FcSb/embed/

    Oh for FSM’s sake. 

    The drug was discovered in 1955. It’s been off patent for decades. Multiple companies make it.

    If we’re going to post conspiracy theories can we at least do a basic check on common sense first? 
    Ok



    Hot take CM. I would think Trump has investments in many companies that stand to gain in any given situation you could think of, he has a couple billion reasons why. Did you think he pulled all of his investments and buried his money in the rose garden? The story here should be about whether or not Hydroxychloroquine is safe for the masses without proper testing and that there are people currently using this drug for other illnesses who may be without it if this ends up being a viable treatment for CoVid-19. Since you can't help but immerse yourself in everything Trump, there are plenty of better examples for you to complain about other than falling for all of your biased twitter following.
  • myoung321
    myoung321 Posts: 2,855
    ikiT said:
    Not having health insurance will make you say some crazy shit.  

    Actually I just re-upped so I suppose a 4000 dollar deductible isn't TOO bad.
     We are so used to getting screwed over that a $4000 deductible isn't TOO BAD 
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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    JW269453 said:
    CM189191 said:
    oftenreading said:
    ikiT said:
    https://instagram.com/p/B-pnYd7FcSb/embed/

    Oh for FSM’s sake. 

    The drug was discovered in 1955. It’s been off patent for decades. Multiple companies make it.

    If we’re going to post conspiracy theories can we at least do a basic check on common sense first? 
    Ok



    Hot take CM. I would think Trump has investments in many companies that stand to gain in any given situation you could think of, he has a couple billion reasons why. Did you think he pulled all of his investments and buried his money in the rose garden? The story here should be about whether or not Hydroxychloroquine is safe for the masses without proper testing and that there are people currently using this drug for other illnesses who may be without it if this ends up being a viable treatment for CoVid-19. Since you can't help but immerse yourself in everything Trump, there are plenty of better examples for you to complain about other than falling for all of your biased twitter following.

    Hot take:

    where are tRUmp's tax returns like he promised?

    That would sure clear things up, wouldn't it now?
  • FiveBelow
    FiveBelow Posts: 1,332
    CM189191 said:
    JW269453 said:
    CM189191 said:
    oftenreading said:
    ikiT said:
    https://instagram.com/p/B-pnYd7FcSb/embed/

    Oh for FSM’s sake. 

    The drug was discovered in 1955. It’s been off patent for decades. Multiple companies make it.

    If we’re going to post conspiracy theories can we at least do a basic check on common sense first? 
    Ok



    Hot take CM. I would think Trump has investments in many companies that stand to gain in any given situation you could think of, he has a couple billion reasons why. Did you think he pulled all of his investments and buried his money in the rose garden? The story here should be about whether or not Hydroxychloroquine is safe for the masses without proper testing and that there are people currently using this drug for other illnesses who may be without it if this ends up being a viable treatment for CoVid-19. Since you can't help but immerse yourself in everything Trump, there are plenty of better examples for you to complain about other than falling for all of your biased twitter following.

    Hot take:

    where are tRUmp's tax returns like he promised?

    That would sure clear things up, wouldn't it now?
    Would it? Maybe I missed it, but I don’t recall seeing anything about tax returns in your tweet love.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    CM189191 said:
    JW269453 said:
    CM189191 said:
    oftenreading said:
    ikiT said:
    https://instagram.com/p/B-pnYd7FcSb/embed/

    Oh for FSM’s sake. 

    The drug was discovered in 1955. It’s been off patent for decades. Multiple companies make it.

    If we’re going to post conspiracy theories can we at least do a basic check on common sense first? 
    Ok



    Hot take CM. I would think Trump has investments in many companies that stand to gain in any given situation you could think of, he has a couple billion reasons why. Did you think he pulled all of his investments and buried his money in the rose garden? The story here should be about whether or not Hydroxychloroquine is safe for the masses without proper testing and that there are people currently using this drug for other illnesses who may be without it if this ends up being a viable treatment for CoVid-19. Since you can't help but immerse yourself in everything Trump, there are plenty of better examples for you to complain about other than falling for all of your biased twitter following.

    Hot take:

    where are tRUmp's tax returns like he promised?

    That would sure clear things up, wouldn't it now?
    I’ll never argue against tax returns, but would they clear up where his investments are? I don’t believe that my tax returns show exactly where my investments are, just how it all shook out over the year. 
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    nicknyr15 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    trump is unethically pushing for a treatment that has no proved efficacy. 

    in medicine, you have to have clinical rationale based on science before you should try any treatment. the number one rule is to not put your patient at risk. using an unproven treatment carries risk, potential allergic reaction, etc.
    I agree with this statement, but I also think we need to get it to trial.  So let's not make it a partisan issue.  
    I agree. Let’s not make this medicine a trump thing. I personally know someone who actually had great success with this medication. It was not looking good 6 days ago. He was discharged yesterday. Obviously this is one situation. But the doctors are using this drug in NY when the situation starts to look dire. He is 66 years old, no underlying illness besides high blood pressure which is controlled by his daily medication. 
    You don’t know if he had great success with the medication, you just know he’s doing better now, which is great, but the studies still need to be done. 
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    mrussel1 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    trump is unethically pushing for a treatment that has no proved efficacy. 

    in medicine, you have to have clinical rationale based on science before you should try any treatment. the number one rule is to not put your patient at risk. using an unproven treatment carries risk, potential allergic reaction, etc.
    I agree with this statement, but I also think we need to get it to trial.  So let's not make it a partisan issue.  
    Absolutely. It needs to be studied quickly but fulsomely, and we have almost ideal circumstances right now, because we have ample patients worldwide and outcome data  will be measured in days to weeks, rather than months to years as with many drug studies. 
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,212
    oftenreading said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    trump is unethically pushing for a treatment that has no proved efficacy. 

    in medicine, you have to have clinical rationale based on science before you should try any treatment. the number one rule is to not put your patient at risk. using an unproven treatment carries risk, potential allergic reaction, etc.
    I agree with this statement, but I also think we need to get it to trial.  So let's not make it a partisan issue.  
    I agree. Let’s not make this medicine a trump thing. I personally know someone who actually had great success with this medication. It was not looking good 6 days ago. He was discharged yesterday. Obviously this is one situation. But the doctors are using this drug in NY when the situation starts to look dire. He is 66 years old, no underlying illness besides high blood pressure which is controlled by his daily medication. 
    You don’t know if he had great success with the medication, you just know he’s doing better now, which is great, but the studies still need to be done. 
    Absolutely they need to be done. Just sharing some good news.
  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,956
    mrussel1 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    trump is unethically pushing for a treatment that has no proved efficacy. 

    in medicine, you have to have clinical rationale based on science before you should try any treatment. the number one rule is to not put your patient at risk. using an unproven treatment carries risk, potential allergic reaction, etc.
    I agree with this statement, but I also think we need to get it to trial.  So let's not make it a partisan issue.  
    I can't tell you how much this idea appeals to me but Barr is head of DOJ and the Conservative members of the Supreme Court have had their souls eaten. :( So now what do we do?
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,030
    YOU BLEW IT is trending #1 on twitter. it is in response to trump tweet telling the WHO they blew it on corona. i am glad to see people giving it back to president dumbass.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,489
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    YOU BLEW IT is trending #1 on twitter. it is in response to trump tweet telling the WHO they blew it on corona. i am glad to see people giving it back to president dumbass.
    GOOD. What a POS.
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    https://www.instagram.com/p/B-rwP2nnY_A/
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  • Spurs14
    Spurs14 Buffalo Grove, IL Posts: 328

  • Mikemzl91
    Mikemzl91 Posts: 501
    edited April 2020




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