Donald Trump

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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    JW269453 said:
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    Very interesting. If the theory that this man has is correct and trump is in fact a CI, then who is to blame for him being in the position he is today? Shady dealings and associations are commonplace in DC, just more reason to question them. Since he has somehow avoided harsh sentencing with all of the wrongdoing he is accused of, it makes you wonder what he really knows. Probably some secrets our government isn't willing to reveal just to get their man.
    modern conservatism : where every accusation is a confession, designed to distract deflect divide
    this is tRUmp's modus operandi

    tRUmp spends years railing against the 'deep state', when it may have been the 'deep state' that helped fail him upward into the presidency

    now how would it look if that were actually true, and the public was informed? 
    Transparency is something I think there is a major lack of within our government so I would be on board. You are still confusing my stance with one of being pro trump for some reason.
    No, that's not it.

    I am suggesting it's a tRUmp tactic to sow distrust in our government.  

    see also:
    both sides are bad
    the establishment
    protest voters
    3rd party supporters

    All of these are tactics to alienate voters from our government, rather than engage it's citizens.  Why do you suppose that is?


    If you think trump has anything to do with my stance on politics and our government you are wrong again. I have had this viewpoint for the majority of my adult life. It would seem that someone who has bought into a particular set of ideals presented to them by either party would be just as guilty of falling for tactics, no?
    Yep, Bernie is happy to play that role for the far left. 
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    edited March 2020
    I think if we had any other person in the Oval Office, that person's approval ratings would be akin to what Cuomo's are in NY, over 70%. This dope gets a 3% bump and his supporters all of sudden think he's waltzing to a landslide victory. Think GW after 9/11 or his father during the Gulf War. They were in the mid 80's during those crisis. The fact that this guy still can't get past the mid 40's at a time when EVERYONE is going through the same thing shows you what kind of leader he is. 


    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?cid=rrpromo
    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trumps-approval-bump-is-puny-and-probably-fleeting-204951615.html

    Trump’s approval bump is puny and probably fleeting


    President Trump is enjoying a modest improvement in his approval ratings, and he’s also proud of the TV ratings for his daily briefings.

    Trump should be alarmed instead. His approval ratings have risen far less than other leaders’ ratings during the coronavirus crisis, and Americans don’t seem to fully grasp the severity of the recession that’s coming as businesses shut down and millions lose their jobs. As a tsunami of hardship swamps the nation, Trump may find that his boasting and deflections backfire as people become more and more desperate for relief.

    For now, Trump’s approval rating has risen from 43% at the beginning of March—before the coronavirus had shut down much of the U.S. economy – to 45% at the end of the month, according to the Fivethirtyeight composite of polls. Gallup puts Trump’s rating at 49%. By either measure, his approval ratings are close to the highest of his presidency, while his disapproval ratings are close to the lowest levels.

    The gains are very small, however, compared with changes in approval ratings for other prominent leaders. Approval ratings for the UK’s Boris Johnson’s rose 15 points in two weeks, according to Morning Consult. Ratings are up 9 points for Germany’s Angela Merkel and 7 points for France’s Emmanuel Macron. Canada’s Justin Trudeau is up 11 points and Australia’s Scott Morrison is up 13 points.

    In New York, Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s approval rating has soared from 50% to 71%, as Cuomo conducts televised daily briefings on the crisis in New York, similar to Trump’s daily White House briefings. People normally “rally around the flag” and support their leader during a crisis, yet Trump seems to be badly underperforming, compared with other leaders.


    President Donald Trump holds his hand to his face as he talks about masks during a briefing about the coronavirus in the Rose Garden of the White House, Monday, March 30, 2020, in Washington. (AP Photo/Alex Brandon)
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    That small Trump bump could vanish and become an erosion of support if mainstream economic forecasts come true in coming months. Oxford Economics expects more than 20 million people to lose their jobs by the end of April, with the unemployment rate spiking from 3.5% to 12%. That would be unprecedented carnage. During the Great Recession of 2007–2009, the ranks of the unemployed swelled by 8.6 million or less than half the outlook for the next month alone. The unemployment rate back then peaked at just 10%.

    Not feeling it yet?

    Americans don’t grasp how bad this is going to get. Consumer confidence fell in the latest Conference Board survey—but only to the levels of early 2016. It’s still way higher than the depths confidence hit during the low point of the Great Recession in 2009. People obviously know something serious is going on when stores and restaurants close indefinitely. But many haven’t yet felt the recession in their paychecks, in lost health insurance or in the distress of family members.

    The huge $2.2 trillion stimulus bill Congress just passed will ease the pain for some. Extreme monetary stimulus from the Federal Reserve will also help contain some of the damage. But neither of these measures will do the one thing most likely to end the recession: Contain the virus.

    That’s up to Trump, to some extent. Aggressive, competent efforts to massively increase testing and keep people home—regardless of the short-term economic costs—could shorten the duration of the misery. But Trump has performed poorly up till now. He dismissed the threat of the virus for nearly two months, wasting valuable time that gave the virus a foothold in many large cities. He has pushed the idea of reopening the economy prematurely, which could cause a double-dip recession if the virus resurges. Trump also says he’s not aware that a shortage of testing is a problem, even though it’s all over the news and governors have been complaining about shortages to the White House directly.

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Why did another democratic thread get closed
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,409
    mrussel1 said:
    Why did another democratic thread get closed
    Children needed a timeout?
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mrussel1 said:
    Why did another democratic thread get closed
    To open the other side?
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  • mrussel1
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    mrussel1 said:
    Why did another democratic thread get closed
    To open the other side?
    Hssss
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    I can't believe he wants to resume normal business by Easter.
    He's a madman.
    And I love how NY governor Cuomo is sticking it to Trump and getting under his skin.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,831
    I can't believe he wants to resume normal business by Easter.
    He's a madman.
    And I love how NY governor Cuomo is sticking it to Trump and getting under his skin.
    I personally don’t think Cuomo was always doing an amazing job. Trying, but late to the party. 

    I think he is now trying his best and working hard for the people though. Real leaders end up shining in moments like this. 
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  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,853
    I can't believe he wants to resume normal business by Easter.
    He's a madman.
    And I love how NY governor Cuomo is sticking it to Trump and getting under his skin.
    He said that last week but most recently said june.  June is optimistic, but I think it's important that our leaders dont put the light at the end of the tunnel too far.

    Trump and the federal government is laying out their (loose) guidelines of distancing to april 30th.  

    I think cuomo has done a great job as our governor.  No nonsense, gives off confidence, truthful, consistency, etc.  

    Trump is all over the place and when he speaks on this, I get anxiety.  He is all over the place.  Doesnt seem like he wants to be bothered with it sometimes.  Not coherent.  I dont need to hear his phony and hollow adjectives like " tremendous" right now.  It feels rudderless.  I hope this administration succeeds and crushes this, but they wont/cant.  That's what happens when you elect a clown who has zero qualifications and whose bankroll comes from people hell bent on destroying government protections for the people. 
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Yeah Trump has looked flustered during this whole crisis, not his usual self.
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    He got spooked yesterday talking about impeachment.  SPOOKED. 

    How many days is he going to tell the story of his great friend, "a little heavy", who went to a hospital, and now is in a coma.
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    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    I think he got it.  Pence, too.
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  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    edited April 2020
    Every Trump voter has blood on their hands and coronavirus on their face.  have a nice day.
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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    ikiT said:
    ...the Trump administration has used the Defense Production Act reflexively over the past three years to prioritize orders it deemed necessary for national security, from rare earth metals to build lasers to body armor for Border Patrol agents. The Defense Department alone estimates that it uses the law’s powers around 300,000 times every year, while the Department of Homeland Security prioritized 1,000 orders in 2018 for disaster response efforts....

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/03/trump-used-defense-production-act-stalled-for-coronavirus.html

    shameful

  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    Anybody got an update on the Wall?  just checkin.
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Can't believe this jerk is tooting his own horn at how great his administration's response has been in this time of crisis.
    He's shit.
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  • stuckinline
    stuckinline Posts: 3,406
    edited April 2020
    Yeah Trump has looked flustered during this whole crisis, not his usual self.
    May be due to the fact he no longer can fly to Mar Largo and golf every weekend 
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,578
    https://twitter.com/thedemcoalition/status/1245317188912844801?s=21
    The only time I wanna see this idiot on TV is when he announces he’s resigning!
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Yeah Trump has looked flustered during this whole crisis, not his usual self.
    May be due to the fact he no longer can fly to Mar Largo and golf every weekend 
    Might be due to:

    Untreated Neurosyphilis
    https://newrepublic.com/article/140702/medical-theory-donald-trumps-bizarre-behavior

    Dementia or Alzheimer’s like tRUmp's dad Fred had
    https://medium.com/@whitfieldlarrabee/like-father-like-son-the-troubling-problem-of-dementia-trumps-white-house-1ed5b7f232d2

    or Adderall abuse
    https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-snorted-adderall-apprentice-tom-arnold-noel-casler-1257787

    Since tRUmp has never produced his medical records, we'll never know for certain. 
    Pretty safe to assume it's some combination of all three. 
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