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dignin said:
If only.Jearlpam0925 said:And my apologies for derailing this thread.
Anyway, this (whole thread) is amazing:
Americans should have been in the streets to defend their democracy.That Judge is in no way sympathetic tol Stone OR Trump. Believe she has discretion in sentencing. She doesnt HAVE to go with the recommendation.........Not inclined to believe she will....._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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I get that, but this has much bigger and farther implications than just the Stone case.mickeyrat said:dignin said:
If only.Jearlpam0925 said:And my apologies for derailing this thread.
Anyway, this (whole thread) is amazing:
Americans should have been in the streets to defend their democracy.That Judge is in no way sympathetic tol Stone OR Trump. Believe she has discretion in sentencing. She doesnt HAVE to go with the recommendation.........Not inclined to believe she will.....0 -
But lets go after Mayor Pete!
Trump’s rhetoric has changed the way hundreds of kids are bullied in classrooms
Since Trump’s rise to the nation’s highest office, his inflammatory language — often condemned as racist and xenophobic — has seeped into schools across America.
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And I get that as well. However, its completely in line with Trumps rhetoric and tweeting since he first raised that right hand with his left behind his back crossing his tiny fingersdignin said:
I get that, but this has much bigger and farther implications than just the Stone case.mickeyrat said:dignin said:
If only.Jearlpam0925 said:And my apologies for derailing this thread.
Anyway, this (whole thread) is amazing:
Americans should have been in the streets to defend their democracy.That Judge is in no way sympathetic tol Stone OR Trump. Believe she has discretion in sentencing. She doesnt HAVE to go with the recommendation.........Not inclined to believe she will.....
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
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Well he is the bully-in-chiefHalifax2TheMax said:But lets go after Mayor Pete!Trump’s rhetoric has changed the way hundreds of kids are bullied in classrooms
Since Trump’s rise to the nation’s highest office, his inflammatory language — often condemned as racist and xenophobic — has seeped into schools across America.
By Hannah Natanson, John Woodrow Cox and Perry Stein ● Read more »
Supported by people who think bullying is okay as long as you pretend to be a lover of christ, guns, and forced birth. And of course it's okay as long as your 401K is increasing in value.0 -
Why look who's back. Some of my favorite lines:
On February 27, 2018, Hicks testified to a Congressional committee that she had told "white lies" on Trump's behalf.[7][8][9] The next day, Hicks announced her intention to resign as White House Communications Director.[10][11] She left the White House a month later.
She was dating Rob Porter in 2018 when he resigned as White House Staff Secretary after abuse allegations from his two ex-wives were made public.[52][53] Corey Lewandowski had an on-and-off extramarital affair with Hicks[54]. Trump stated Hicks was "the best piece of tail" Lewandowski would ever have per Michael Wolff's book: Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House[55].
Birds of a feather, I suppose.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hope_Hicks
https://apple.news/ArzyZXvN0SbKkZdIW8XPiRQ
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Definitely policy over candidate 1000%.Ledbetterman10 said:
Fair enough, and thanks for your sympathies for my mother. Here's a question though...assuming Warren doesn't make it very far in this primary, when she drops out, would you then begin donating to someone with similar policies? Like, are more about donating towards the policy or the candidate?Jearlpam0925 said:
Absolutely - I guess I emphasize the giving critically on the local/state level. My view if fuck the federal government, at least I can control what my state does as long as it doesn't violate the consitution.Ledbetterman10 said:
I've never believed that strongly in any political candidate to donate to them. But if I did, I certainly wouldn't donate to a primary candidate for all the reasons I laid out: they might not even make it to my state to vote for them (though this wouldn't really apply to me because I have no party affiliation and can't vote in primaries), or in the case of someone like Kamala Harris, they may not even make it to Iowa. In the end, if you donated to her presidential campaign, basically you just gave her money to help her become more famous.Jearlpam0925 said:
Just want to address your statement that I've underlined/bolded - if there's anything I've learned in all this is that donating to a candidate you believe in, are motivated by, is just as important as donating to any charity. Non-profits need to play by the rules laid out by them, which is done by these same fucking politicians. It's an underrated value really, for the average American that is. While PACs and corporations keep throwing millions of dollars around, helping a candidate put boots on the ground whether it be by volunteering or donating to their campaign is a powerful rebuke to the PAC money. Again, I can't stress enough how important it is to donate to campaigns you believe in - especially at the local level. And now that the usual tax payer is not seeing the benefit of giving for deduction purposes, I give the majority of my money to public servants/campaigns/501c4's that meet my ideals and what I want the country to be.Ledbetterman10 said:
Yeah that regional idea would work great. And you're dead-on about money. I've never donated to a pollical campaign. But if I did, and that candidate didn't even make it to the first primaries, well then I just totally flushed money down the toilet. And it wouldn't necessarily be the candidate's fault. I'd blame the system.ikiT said:Ledbetterman10 said:
Oh I can answer that one for you....mickeyrat said:heres what I really dont understand, why have we placed such great importance on Iowas convoluted process and NH fraction of ots 1.3 million population?
The primary process is STUPID. They should do every state at once, or if that's too much to ask, Ten states at a time. Ten "super Tuesdays" if you will. The way they do it with Iowa and then New Hampshire is a perfect example of "Welp, this is how it's always been!" I fucking hate it.
And don't get me started on delegates and super delegates, or the possibility of a brokered convention.
Edit: Just realized that I capitalized the word "Ten." That's when you KNOW you're a Pearl Jam fan lol.
That seems very rational. The process they employ now is too expensive and those early states are not representative of the population as a whole.
How about 5 Regional primaries? Northeast Southeast Midwest Northwest Southwest...one a week for 5 weeks (with weekend voting and easy early and absentee voting as well) and then a general election...Get this whole process done in two months. No running for president the day after you're sworn in, no rallies, and elected officials actually doing their jobs instead of running for president for half the length of the term.
Money is a also huge stumbling block. Look at the amount of $$$ burned through by Kamala Harris over the course of 2019. It had to have been at least 30M dollars, probably more. FOR WHAT? In addition to the diverse demographics of the Dems voting population being considered, there ought to be a level playing field. Instead of heeding the call to "get money out of politics", Tom Perez Dee's made fundraising totals (and POLLING? now that's stupid...) a metric of "viability" for inclusion on the stage debates; all that did was jettison of the ideas and ideals and ENERGY of Julian Castro, John Delaney, Beto, Kristen Gillibrand, and the aforementioned Kamala. (I would have PAID to watch KH debate Trumpito, by the way).
He may need to be impeached again. That really did not take long.
And beyond wasting money, your right to vote (and the candidates' right to secure votes) is sorta diminished in these primaries if the candidate you like is gone before your state votes. I'm from Pennsylvania and we don't vote until April 28th. It's possible that someone like Joe Biden could be gone by then. Is that fair to a Pennsylvanian who might want to vote for him? Is it fair to HIM (or anyone like him) that faltering in early states could cost him a chance to even compete in later states?
Since this is all just a big game anyway, I often compare the American election system (especially when there's no incumbent) to something like the NFL playoffs, with the Dems being one conference and the GOP being the other, and then each conference's champion play in the Super Bowl (general election). Taking that metaphor one step further, candidates struggling in early primary states and having to drop out because of it is tantamount to an NFL team starting the season 1-4, and having the rest of their season cancelled because of it.
The people in power in public office make the rules and I want to make sure I'm supporting those I want in those seats making the right decisions.
I donate to cancer research because my mother died of cancer. That's the only thing I give my money away to.
Sorry about your mother. In my mind this is another reason I would keep pushing money behind candidates and parties - especially in office - for things like M4A and other forms of socialized healthcare. The benefit of this type of legislation would put a cap on the maximum amount of out-of-pocket someone needs to pay when it comes to diagnoses like cancer. No one should go broke because of cancer, so I'll gladly give to those candidates in office who believe the same.
Also, would like to say, on the primary issue - I give $25/mo to Elizabeth Warren, which I do because I'm financially capable of doing so. If someone even gave a $1 to someone they believe in - whether it's federal or local - it makes a difference.
I'm a pretty practical, pragmatic guy, but my ideals can get the best of me sometimes as I would expect anyone with a pulse that's considered human should. I honestly think there's going to be a contested convention. Amy went all-in on the all-white state of NH. She will be most likely out of it after March because I don't think she has the money to go through all of it.. Warren is a lot of peoples 2nd choice overall. She's still 3rd in the delegate vote, which at the same time so far is a fraction of the total delegate vote tally. I think Biden takes a complete beating but limps around, Bloomberg is going to buy his way through Super Tuesday. Not sure if Pete has the amount of cash to go all the way unless he surges ahead. Some sort of combo of Warren/Sanders/Pete/Biden is going to hang around until June with no one being the clear winner. That's at least my personal view. When and if Warren's out, then Sanders gets my money. From there I'll wait till the convention and see who the nominee is. The only ones that would really give me pains to donate to - and I most likely won't - are Bloomberg & Biden. Bloomberg can print money so he doesn't need from me. Biden is Generic Party Dem, also doesn't need it from me. I'll reluctantly give Pete or Amy my money maybe. After the convention I'll be hitting the ground with my feet knocking doors in my own division here in South Philly, then make some runs in rural PA as well, for whom ever the Dem nominee is. If everyone gives just 2% effort then no one person needs to do it all.
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You almost nailed it, but isn't a 409K?Bentleyspop said:
Well he is the bully-in-chiefHalifax2TheMax said:But lets go after Mayor Pete!Trump’s rhetoric has changed the way hundreds of kids are bullied in classrooms
Since Trump’s rise to the nation’s highest office, his inflammatory language — often condemned as racist and xenophobic — has seeped into schools across America.
By Hannah Natanson, John Woodrow Cox and Perry Stein ● Read more »
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That didn't take long...
Conservative radio personality and Medal of Freedom recipient Rush Limbaugh said 2020 presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg had little chance of winning the election because "America's still not ready to elect a gay guy".
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I hate Rush...ikiT said:That didn't take long...
Conservative radio personality and Medal of Freedom recipient Rush Limbaugh said 2020 presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg had little chance of winning the election because "America's still not ready to elect a gay guy".
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Have you ever been to New Hampshire? This isn't the least bit "Yikes."Ledbetterman10 said:Yikes...
The state's official automobile is a pickup truck with off-road lights and a gunrack. Its official uniform is camo fatigues.Post edited by dankind onI SAW PEARL JAM0 -
That is not at all the point. The point is that people there seem pretty excited and passionate to vote for him if he's getting that many primary votes against a token challenger. New Hampshire has gone to the Democrat every general election since 2004. Maybe this is a tell that Trump might do better in 2020 than he and other Republicans have done there. Sure it's only 4 electoral votes. But if New Hampshire goes for him, maybe other surrounding states will.dankind said:
Have you ever been to New Hampshire? This isn't the least bit "Yikes."Ledbetterman10 said:Yikes...
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Having grown up in VT, and then moving to Massachusetts in my 20s, RI in my thirties, and now after spending almost 20 years in MD I can tell you one thing about NH.
It looks much better in the RVM. Avoid it if you can. That's where Corey Lawless-owski lives.Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 061320180 -
I didn't wan't to just come out and say New Hampshire SUCKS cause, even though it's true, there are certain things you shouldn't say out loud...Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 061320180
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Hampton Beach is fine, I suppose.Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 061320180
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I mean I liked backpacking and camping throughout The Whites.ikiT said:I didn't wan't to just come out and say New Hampshire SUCKS cause, even though it's true, there are certain things you shouldn't say out loud...0 -
i have no reason to believe she will impose a longer sentence. I believe she will capitulate. they probably have something on her to discredit her. something that they will leak if she doesn't comply.mickeyrat said:dignin said:
If only.Jearlpam0925 said:And my apologies for derailing this thread.
Anyway, this (whole thread) is amazing:
Americans should have been in the streets to defend their democracy.That Judge is in no way sympathetic tol Stone OR Trump. Believe she has discretion in sentencing. She doesnt HAVE to go with the recommendation.........Not inclined to believe she will.....
these forces we are dealing with are powerful and hateful.
sorry for the pessimism. it just seems like the bad guys always win these days and they will not face the justice that they deserve."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '140 -
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Damage control to save whatever morale is left at Justice... but no one buys his bs.dignin said:0
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