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  • Of course he did. Quick, send him a check. Skip that, get your credit card out! Do it now!

    Trump objects to verifying list of property seized from Florida estate - court filing

    (Reuters) - Lawyers for former President Donald Trump are resisting a federal judge's instruction to submit a sworn declaration on whether they believe the government's list of property taken from Trump's Florida estate is accurate.

    According to a letter publicly filed by Trump's lawyers on Wednesday, the former president's legal team told Senior U.S. Judge Raymond Dearie, who is reviewing the materials taken in the federal raid of the Florida property, that they don't believe Dearie has the authority to require them to make such a filing.

    The former president has repeatedly claimed without evidence that the FBI planted evidence.

    The Trump lawyers' letter, dated Sept. 25, says the order by another federal judge appointing Dearie to conduct the outside review of the materials only requires that the government file a declaration on the accuracy of the inventory list, and not Trump.

    Trump's lawyers also said they could not verify the accuracy of the property list because they do not currently have access to information taken in the raid that was marked as classified.

    Trump objects to verifying list of property seized from Florida estate - court filing (msn.com)

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 26,705

     
    Trump records probe: Tensions flare over special master
    By ERIC TUCKER
    2 hours ago

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The parallel special master process spawned by the FBI search of Donald Trump’s Florida estate has slowed the Justice Department's criminal investigation and exposed simmering tensions between department prosecutors and lawyers for the former president.

    As the probe into the presence of top-secret information at Mar-a-Lago continues, barbed comments in recent court filings have laid bare deep disagreements related to the special master's work — not just among lawyers but judges, too. And the filings have made clear that a process the Trump team initially asked for has not consistently played to the ex-president's advantage.

    A look at where things stand:

    WHO IS THE SPECIAL MASTER AND WHAT IS HIS ROLE?

    A federal judge in Florida appointed at the Trump team's request an independent arbiter to inspect the thousands of documents seized from Mar-a-Lago and to weed out from the investigation any that might be protected by claims of either attorney-client privilege or executive privilege.

    That arbiter, formally known as a special master, is Raymond Dearie. He's a former federal prosecutor who was appointed a U.S. District judge in Brooklyn by then-President Ronald Reagan. He also has served on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.

    He was initially tasked by U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon, a Trump appointee, with reviewing all of the records taken from Mar-a-Lago. But a federal appeals court shrunk the scope of his duties last week, ruling that the Justice Department did not have to share with him the roughly 100 documents with classified markings that were taken during the Aug. 8 search. That leaves for his evaluation the roughly 11,000 other, unclassified documents — which a Trump lawyer said actually total roughly 200,000 pages — recovered by the FBI.

    Cannon, meanwhile, has also reined in some of Dearie's work.

    WHAT HAS HAPPENED SINCE THEN REGARDING CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS?

    The past week has revealed stark divisions in how both sides envision the process playing out, as well as the precise role the special master should have.

    An early hint surfaced when the Trump team resisted Dearie's request for any information to support the idea that the documents had been declassified, as Trump has repeatedly asserted. A lawyer for Trump, James Trusty, said that inquiry was “premature” and “a little beyond" what Cannon had in mind at the time she appointed the special master.

    The following day, in a setback for the Trump team, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit overruled an order from Cannon that had temporarily halted the Justice Department’s ability to use the seized classified documents in its probe. Besides restoring the department's access, the order also lifted Cannon’s mandate that investigators give the special master those records.

    More conflict followed, this time related to the scanning and processing of non-classified government records that were seized.

    Government lawyers revealed in a letter Tuesday that none of the five document-review vendors they had recommended for the job was "willing to be engaged" by the Trump team. The Justice Department said it was confident it would be able to secure the arrangements on its own while noting that it continued to expect the Trump team to pay.

    But Trusty responded with his own letter Wednesday attributing the difficulty in securing a vendor to the sheer quantity of documents, which he said totaled roughly 200,000 pages — a number the Justice Department has not itself stated in court filings.

    He said the department's deadlines for the production of documents was overly “aggressive” — “It would be better to base deadlines on actual data and not wistful claims by the Government," he noted at one point — and scolded the department for what he said were “antagonistic” comments.

    “DOJ continues to mistake itself as having judicial authority. Its comments are not argument, but proclamations designed to steamroll judicial oversight and the Plaintiff’s constitutional rights,” Trusty wrote.

    WHAT IS LIKELY TO HAPPEN NEXT?

    The FBI's investigation took a major step forward when the appeals court lifted Cannon's hold on its ability to scrutinize the seized classified documents as it evaluates whether Trump or anyone else should face criminal charges.

    Dearie's work as special master will continue alongside that probe, though there's little chance any action he takes at this point could substantially alter the outcome of the FBI investigation or affect major decisions that lie ahead.

    But early disagreements between Cannon and Dearie over the scope of his duties also bear watching. For instance, Cannon on Thursday overturned a directive from the special master that would have required the Trump team to say whether it had any objections to a detailed FBI property inventory cataloging all of the items agents removed from the home.

    That response could have been illuminating given that Trump and some of his allies have raised unsupported suggestions that the agents who searched his home may have planted evidence. If his lawyers were to affirm the inventory's accuracy, they would likely be contradicting their own client's claims while also acknowledging the presence of classified materials in the home.

    The Justice Department this week made what it called minor revisions to the inventory, but said it was an otherwise full and accurate accounting of what was taken.

    Yet newly disclosed correspondence showed the Trump team balking at being forced to assess the inventory's accuracy. Trusty said in a letter Sunday that the directive that it do so goes beyond what Cannon had envisioned when she appointed Dearie. Cannon herself agreed, canceling Dearie's requirement Thursday and writing that her “appointment order did not contemplate that obligation.”

    The Justice Department, for its part, had earlier suggested that the Trump team should not be able to avoid stating its position on the record or following other of Dearie's directives.

    “The Special Master needs to know that he is reviewing all of the materials seized from Mara-Lago on August 8, 2022 — and no additional materials — before he categorizes the seized documents and adjudicates privilege claims,” the department said in one filing.

    The letter Tuesday ended with this tart reminder to Trump and his lawyers: “Plaintiff brought this civil, equitable proceeding. He bears the burden of proof."

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 26,705
    Trump’s paid-speeches organizer is struggling financially  https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/09/29/trump-speeches-bankruptcy-vendors/ 

     Trump’s paid-speeches organizer is struggling financially
    By Josh Dawsey and Isaac Arnsdorf
    September 29, 2022 at 12:29 ET
    A company that organized a lucrative series of post-White House paid speeches for former president Donald Trump is now struggling to pay vendors, investors and employees, angering Trump allies who supported the effort.
    The American Freedom Tour, which struck a multimillion-dollar deal with Trump after he left office, has lost two top executives and canceled events in a number of locations as it has failed to pay its bills, according to people familiar with the activities and documents obtained by The Washington Post. Its founder and owner, who has a history of bankruptcy filings, recently sought bankruptcy protection again.
    The group has promised events in a number of locales but canceled them before they began and appears to be banking on a large event at Mar-a-Lago in December to turn its financial position around.
    With speakers, affiliates and investors all clamoring for their money, one of the people involved who did get paid was Trump, people close to the former president say. Some Trump advisers have warned against doing future events, though Trump has expressed interest.
    It’s not clear what that means for the tour’s advertised upcoming black-tie gala at Mar-a-Lago, with tickets starting at $10,000 a couple to spend time with Trump. The event includes a poolside reception and a formal ballroom dinner. Dinner and a photo with Trump costs $40,000, and a private library meeting with Trump is so pricey that it’s only listed as: “INQUIRE BELOW.” The company declined to say how much Trump is being paid for the event.
    The company’s CEO, Brian J. Forte, declined to be interviewed for this article. A Trump spokesman did not respond to requests for comment.
    “The tour did have some unexpected scheduling issues over the summer that slowed things down, but we are working through it,” said Larry Ward, a spokesman for the company. “We are positioning the tour for greater strength and success going forward.”
    The American Freedom Tour started last October, staging glitzy events around the country that resemble Trump rallies but sell tickets ranging from $55 to more than $4,000. In addition to Trump, the shows featured right-wing celebrities such as Candace Owens and Kimberly Guilfoyle, as well as motivational speakers offering personal finance courses.
    Essentially, it was a place where Trump supporters could buy a chance to see him and other conservative luminaries — or pay more for special access — with the money not going to a political campaign, but a for-profit company and Trump himself. It was founded by Forte, a motivational-speaker promoter with a long trail of bankruptcy filings and business disputes across the country.
    The tour has had a slate of problems, including angry investors, speakers and vendors who have not been paid, according to people familiar with the situation, who like some others, spoke on the condition of anonymity to reveal internal details.
    Trump joined the group with little vetting, advisers say, and some of his team was not aware of Forte’s business history when told by The Post.

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  • mickeyrat said:
    Trump’s paid-speeches organizer is struggling financially  https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/09/29/trump-speeches-bankruptcy-vendors/ 

     Trump’s paid-speeches organizer is struggling financially
    By Josh Dawsey and Isaac Arnsdorf
    September 29, 2022 at 12:29 ET
    A company that organized a lucrative series of post-White House paid speeches for former president Donald Trump is now struggling to pay vendors, investors and employees, angering Trump allies who supported the effort.
    The American Freedom Tour, which struck a multimillion-dollar deal with Trump after he left office, has lost two top executives and canceled events in a number of locations as it has failed to pay its bills, according to people familiar with the activities and documents obtained by The Washington Post. Its founder and owner, who has a history of bankruptcy filings, recently sought bankruptcy protection again.
    The group has promised events in a number of locales but canceled them before they began and appears to be banking on a large event at Mar-a-Lago in December to turn its financial position around.
    With speakers, affiliates and investors all clamoring for their money, one of the people involved who did get paid was Trump, people close to the former president say. Some Trump advisers have warned against doing future events, though Trump has expressed interest.
    It’s not clear what that means for the tour’s advertised upcoming black-tie gala at Mar-a-Lago, with tickets starting at $10,000 a couple to spend time with Trump. The event includes a poolside reception and a formal ballroom dinner. Dinner and a photo with Trump costs $40,000, and a private library meeting with Trump is so pricey that it’s only listed as: “INQUIRE BELOW.” The company declined to say how much Trump is being paid for the event.
    The company’s CEO, Brian J. Forte, declined to be interviewed for this article. A Trump spokesman did not respond to requests for comment.
    “The tour did have some unexpected scheduling issues over the summer that slowed things down, but we are working through it,” said Larry Ward, a spokesman for the company. “We are positioning the tour for greater strength and success going forward.”
    The American Freedom Tour started last October, staging glitzy events around the country that resemble Trump rallies but sell tickets ranging from $55 to more than $4,000. In addition to Trump, the shows featured right-wing celebrities such as Candace Owens and Kimberly Guilfoyle, as well as motivational speakers offering personal finance courses.
    Essentially, it was a place where Trump supporters could buy a chance to see him and other conservative luminaries — or pay more for special access — with the money not going to a political campaign, but a for-profit company and Trump himself. It was founded by Forte, a motivational-speaker promoter with a long trail of bankruptcy filings and business disputes across the country.
    The tour has had a slate of problems, including angry investors, speakers and vendors who have not been paid, according to people familiar with the situation, who like some others, spoke on the condition of anonymity to reveal internal details.
    Trump joined the group with little vetting, advisers say, and some of his team was not aware of Forte’s business history when told by The Post.

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    Because “billionaires” regularly prostitute themselves in such a manner. Speaking of which, throw in a “motivational” speaker offering “financial classes” and you too can be a billionaire! Quick! Get out the credit card and follow the tour!

    Suckers. If anyone gives POOTWH any amount of money at all, they’re beyond saving and should have a court order a trustee to manage their finances until they can re-enter reality.
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  • If this doesn’t get you on the bandwagon, nothing will.

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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 20,214
    did mar a lago get hit by ian? if not, how long until trump says it did and begs for more money?
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 26,705

     
    Trump files $475 million defamation lawsuit against CNN
    Yesterday

    NEW YORK (AP) — Former President Donald Trump on Monday sued CNN, seeking $475 million in damages, saying the network had defamed him in an effort to short-circuit any future political campaign.

    The lawsuit, filed in U.S. District Court in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, focuses primarily on the term “The Big Lie” about Trump's false claims of widespread fraud that he says cost him the 2020 presidential election to Joe Biden.

    CNN said it had no comment on the lawsuit.

    Trump repeatedly attacked CNN as president, which resonated with his conservative followers. He has similarly filed lawsuits against big tech companies with little success. His case against Twitter for knocking him off its platform following the Jan. 6, 2021, U.S. Capitol insurrection was thrown out by a California judge earlier this year.

    Numerous federal and local election officials in both parties, a long list of courts, top former campaign staffers and even Trump’s own attorney general have all said there is no evidence of the election fraud he alleges.

    Trump's lawsuit claims “The Big Lie,” a phrase with Nazi connotations, has been used in reference to him more than 7,700 times on CNN since January 2021.

    “It is intended to aggravate, scare and trigger people,” he said.

    In a statement Monday, Trump suggested that similar lawsuits would be filed against other news organizations. And he said he may also bring “appropriate action” against the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol by his supporters. The lawsuit comes as he is weighing a potential bid for the presidency in 2024.

    New CNN chief Chris Licht privately urged his news personnel in a meeting more than three months ago to refrain from using the phrase because it is too close to Democratic efforts to brand the former president, according to several published reports.


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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 33,215
    jesus, that guy talks like Maury Povich about to reveal who the real father is. just repor it. enough of the emphasizing and repeating of all these dramatic points. 11:14 could have been stripped down to about 2 minutes. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 32,030
    ikiT said:

    So much for Easter.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 33,215
    ikiT said:

    that's fuckin' funny
    I think I'll move to Australia


  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 32,030
    Hey, buh, buh, buh Hunter’s tax avoidance and illegal gun possession! And his laptop! Nice to see Obama is finally paying the price for that fruit from the poisonous tree!

    We still don’t know just what is in those documents, and who else has seen them. This is an unfortunate wild card as Biden is trying to rebuild alliances to defend democracy. In the trial of Thomas J. Barrack Jr., an investor and Trump backer being prosecuted for secretly working for the United Arab Emirates during Trump’s term, former secretary of state Rex Tillerson today said he did not know about the contacts between Barrack, Jared Kushner, and representatives for Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates that are coming to light in trial testimony. 
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  • Hey, buh, buh, buh Hunter’s tax avoidance and illegal gun possession! And his laptop! Nice to see Obama is finally paying the price for that fruit from the poisonous tree!

    We still don’t know just what is in those documents, and who else has seen them. This is an unfortunate wild card as Biden is trying to rebuild alliances to defend democracy. In the trial of Thomas J. Barrack Jr., an investor and Trump backer being prosecuted for secretly working for the United Arab Emirates during Trump’s term, former secretary of state Rex Tillerson today said he did not know about the contacts between Barrack, Jared Kushner, and representatives for Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates that are coming to light in trial testimony. 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 26,186
    Hey, buh, buh, buh Hunter’s tax avoidance and illegal gun possession! And his laptop! Nice to see Obama is finally paying the price for that fruit from the poisonous tree!

    We still don’t know just what is in those documents, and who else has seen them. This is an unfortunate wild card as Biden is trying to rebuild alliances to defend democracy. In the trial of Thomas J. Barrack Jr., an investor and Trump backer being prosecuted for secretly working for the United Arab Emirates during Trump’s term, former secretary of state Rex Tillerson today said he did not know about the contacts between Barrack, Jared Kushner, and representatives for Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates that are coming to light in trial testimony. 
    Lol. Keep trying. Keep trying. Maybe stick too easier thougts. Like the sun may come up tomorrow.  Then your chances of being correct may increase. 
    I think I speak for most Americans and say that we are all glad we didn't vote for Hunter.  Who fucking cares what the president's son does.  Please,  make a case why these charges,  should they come,  matter to me or the country at large.
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 7,457

    The very serious debate club has concerns about Hunter Biden. 
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 26,031
    mrussel1 said:
    Hey, buh, buh, buh Hunter’s tax avoidance and illegal gun possession! And his laptop! Nice to see Obama is finally paying the price for that fruit from the poisonous tree!

    We still don’t know just what is in those documents, and who else has seen them. This is an unfortunate wild card as Biden is trying to rebuild alliances to defend democracy. In the trial of Thomas J. Barrack Jr., an investor and Trump backer being prosecuted for secretly working for the United Arab Emirates during Trump’s term, former secretary of state Rex Tillerson today said he did not know about the contacts between Barrack, Jared Kushner, and representatives for Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates that are coming to light in trial testimony. 
    Lol. Keep trying. Keep trying. Maybe stick too easier thougts. Like the sun may come up tomorrow.  Then your chances of being correct may increase. 
    I think I speak for most Americans and say that we are all glad we didn't vote for Hunter.  Who fucking cares what the president's son does.  Please,  make a case why these charges,  should they come,  matter to me or the country at large.
    Exactly! 
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 7,564
    mrussel1 said:
    Hey, buh, buh, buh Hunter’s tax avoidance and illegal gun possession! And his laptop! Nice to see Obama is finally paying the price for that fruit from the poisonous tree!

    We still don’t know just what is in those documents, and who else has seen them. This is an unfortunate wild card as Biden is trying to rebuild alliances to defend democracy. In the trial of Thomas J. Barrack Jr., an investor and Trump backer being prosecuted for secretly working for the United Arab Emirates during Trump’s term, former secretary of state Rex Tillerson today said he did not know about the contacts between Barrack, Jared Kushner, and representatives for Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates that are coming to light in trial testimony. 
    Lol. Keep trying. Keep trying. Maybe stick too easier thougts. Like the sun may come up tomorrow.  Then your chances of being correct may increase. 
    I think I speak for most Americans and say that we are all glad we didn't vote for Hunter.  Who fucking cares what the president's son does.  Please,  make a case why these charges,  should they come,  matter to me or the country at large.
    They don't "matter" in terms of Biden's presidency. But he's a high profile character. Did OJ's trial make any difference to your life? Yet it was televised live for 8 months. People are interested because he's the president's son.
    Yes, some are trying to connect Biden to it. But even without that connection, its still a headline story.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 43,535
    mace1229 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Hey, buh, buh, buh Hunter’s tax avoidance and illegal gun possession! And his laptop! Nice to see Obama is finally paying the price for that fruit from the poisonous tree!

    We still don’t know just what is in those documents, and who else has seen them. This is an unfortunate wild card as Biden is trying to rebuild alliances to defend democracy. In the trial of Thomas J. Barrack Jr., an investor and Trump backer being prosecuted for secretly working for the United Arab Emirates during Trump’s term, former secretary of state Rex Tillerson today said he did not know about the contacts between Barrack, Jared Kushner, and representatives for Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates that are coming to light in trial testimony. 
    Lol. Keep trying. Keep trying. Maybe stick too easier thougts. Like the sun may come up tomorrow.  Then your chances of being correct may increase. 
    I think I speak for most Americans and say that we are all glad we didn't vote for Hunter.  Who fucking cares what the president's son does.  Please,  make a case why these charges,  should they come,  matter to me or the country at large.
    They don't "matter" in terms of Biden's presidency. But he's a high profile character. Did OJ's trial make any difference to your life? Yet it was televised live for 8 months. People are interested because he's the president's son.
    Yes, some are trying to connect Biden to it. But even without that connection, its still a headline story.
    Hunter Biden is a high profile character? Lol...news to me. Was Roger Clinton a high profile character? 

    These people are only considered high profile to the people on the far right looking for anything to smear the president with. To most people, he's just considered one of those family members who is always getting into trouble. We all have them. 
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 14,717
    mace1229 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Hey, buh, buh, buh Hunter’s tax avoidance and illegal gun possession! And his laptop! Nice to see Obama is finally paying the price for that fruit from the poisonous tree!

    We still don’t know just what is in those documents, and who else has seen them. This is an unfortunate wild card as Biden is trying to rebuild alliances to defend democracy. In the trial of Thomas J. Barrack Jr., an investor and Trump backer being prosecuted for secretly working for the United Arab Emirates during Trump’s term, former secretary of state Rex Tillerson today said he did not know about the contacts between Barrack, Jared Kushner, and representatives for Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates that are coming to light in trial testimony. 
    Lol. Keep trying. Keep trying. Maybe stick too easier thougts. Like the sun may come up tomorrow.  Then your chances of being correct may increase. 
    I think I speak for most Americans and say that we are all glad we didn't vote for Hunter.  Who fucking cares what the president's son does.  Please,  make a case why these charges,  should they come,  matter to me or the country at large.
    They don't "matter" in terms of Biden's presidency. But he's a high profile character. Did OJ's trial make any difference to your life? Yet it was televised live for 8 months. People are interested because he's the president's son.
    Yes, some are trying to connect Biden to it. But even without that connection, its still a headline story.
    I'm surprised the right hasn't jumped on this yet...not much that I'm seeing at least.
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 7,457

    The very serious debate club has concerns about Hunter Biden. 
    Serious concerns. 
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 9,892

    The very serious debate club has concerns about Hunter Biden. 
    I don't understand the QtRUmplicans problem with Hunter Biden. 
    With his tax evasion and gun charges he should be a major leader in the QtRUmplican party or a talking head on focksnooze 
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 7,564
    mace1229 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Hey, buh, buh, buh Hunter’s tax avoidance and illegal gun possession! And his laptop! Nice to see Obama is finally paying the price for that fruit from the poisonous tree!

    We still don’t know just what is in those documents, and who else has seen them. This is an unfortunate wild card as Biden is trying to rebuild alliances to defend democracy. In the trial of Thomas J. Barrack Jr., an investor and Trump backer being prosecuted for secretly working for the United Arab Emirates during Trump’s term, former secretary of state Rex Tillerson today said he did not know about the contacts between Barrack, Jared Kushner, and representatives for Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates that are coming to light in trial testimony. 
    Lol. Keep trying. Keep trying. Maybe stick too easier thougts. Like the sun may come up tomorrow.  Then your chances of being correct may increase. 
    I think I speak for most Americans and say that we are all glad we didn't vote for Hunter.  Who fucking cares what the president's son does.  Please,  make a case why these charges,  should they come,  matter to me or the country at large.
    They don't "matter" in terms of Biden's presidency. But he's a high profile character. Did OJ's trial make any difference to your life? Yet it was televised live for 8 months. People are interested because he's the president's son.
    Yes, some are trying to connect Biden to it. But even without that connection, its still a headline story.
    Hunter Biden is a high profile character? Lol...news to me. Was Roger Clinton a high profile character? 

    These people are only considered high profile to the people on the far right looking for anything to smear the president with. To most people, he's just considered one of those family members who is always getting into trouble. We all have them. 
    The president's son isn’t a high profile character? Tom Brady getting a divorce is headline news, I think we’d care if the president’s son is potentially getting charged.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 32,030
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Hey, buh, buh, buh Hunter’s tax avoidance and illegal gun possession! And his laptop! Nice to see Obama is finally paying the price for that fruit from the poisonous tree!

    We still don’t know just what is in those documents, and who else has seen them. This is an unfortunate wild card as Biden is trying to rebuild alliances to defend democracy. In the trial of Thomas J. Barrack Jr., an investor and Trump backer being prosecuted for secretly working for the United Arab Emirates during Trump’s term, former secretary of state Rex Tillerson today said he did not know about the contacts between Barrack, Jared Kushner, and representatives for Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates that are coming to light in trial testimony. 
    Lol. Keep trying. Keep trying. Maybe stick too easier thougts. Like the sun may come up tomorrow.  Then your chances of being correct may increase. 
    I think I speak for most Americans and say that we are all glad we didn't vote for Hunter.  Who fucking cares what the president's son does.  Please,  make a case why these charges,  should they come,  matter to me or the country at large.
    They don't "matter" in terms of Biden's presidency. But he's a high profile character. Did OJ's trial make any difference to your life? Yet it was televised live for 8 months. People are interested because he's the president's son.
    Yes, some are trying to connect Biden to it. But even without that connection, its still a headline story.
    Hunter Biden is a high profile character? Lol...news to me. Was Roger Clinton a high profile character? 

    These people are only considered high profile to the people on the far right looking for anything to smear the president with. To most people, he's just considered one of those family members who is always getting into trouble. We all have them. 
    The president's son isn’t a high profile character? Tom Brady getting a divorce is headline news, I think we’d care if the president’s son is potentially getting charged.
    Good lord, tabloid journalism drives the day. But a gun crime? Thought you’d be finding every reason under the sun to dismiss it? What happened to the 2A?
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 7,564
    edited October 7
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Hey, buh, buh, buh Hunter’s tax avoidance and illegal gun possession! And his laptop! Nice to see Obama is finally paying the price for that fruit from the poisonous tree!

    We still don’t know just what is in those documents, and who else has seen them. This is an unfortunate wild card as Biden is trying to rebuild alliances to defend democracy. In the trial of Thomas J. Barrack Jr., an investor and Trump backer being prosecuted for secretly working for the United Arab Emirates during Trump’s term, former secretary of state Rex Tillerson today said he did not know about the contacts between Barrack, Jared Kushner, and representatives for Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates that are coming to light in trial testimony. 
    Lol. Keep trying. Keep trying. Maybe stick too easier thougts. Like the sun may come up tomorrow.  Then your chances of being correct may increase. 
    I think I speak for most Americans and say that we are all glad we didn't vote for Hunter.  Who fucking cares what the president's son does.  Please,  make a case why these charges,  should they come,  matter to me or the country at large.
    They don't "matter" in terms of Biden's presidency. But he's a high profile character. Did OJ's trial make any difference to your life? Yet it was televised live for 8 months. People are interested because he's the president's son.
    Yes, some are trying to connect Biden to it. But even without that connection, its still a headline story.
    Hunter Biden is a high profile character? Lol...news to me. Was Roger Clinton a high profile character? 

    These people are only considered high profile to the people on the far right looking for anything to smear the president with. To most people, he's just considered one of those family members who is always getting into trouble. We all have them. 
    The president's son isn’t a high profile character? Tom Brady getting a divorce is headline news, I think we’d care if the president’s son is potentially getting charged.
    Good lord, tabloid journalism drives the day. But a gun crime? Thought you’d be finding every reason under the sun to dismiss it? What happened to the 2A?
    No one here, including me, has ever dismissed gun crimes. But that has nothing to do with this topic anyway. The question was why do we care, in other words why is this a news story? He's the president's son, of course its a news story. Its not going to change your life and you may not care, but its a news story. If the news is going to take time to report on the love life if Kim Kardashian or Tom Brady, they're going to report when the president's son may face possible charges. Why is this a surprise to anyone?
    I'm sure if Trump's youngest kid, whatever his name is, was facing charges for something, that'd be news too. Or Bush's kids or Obama's kids, or any other president. 
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