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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 32,023
    Anyone who thinks this is about parking tickets or poor document retention policies isn’t paying attention. Garland was a potential SCOTUS nominee and fully understands the gravity of the current situation and the implications, both real and potential.

    Garland will let the evidence speak for itself at that appropriate time and place and in the appropriate venue, a court. POOTWH can put up or shut the fuck up. You, general you, need to separate the politics from the legal.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 32,023
    edited August 11
    POOTWH is counting on the novelty of this and his situation to get away with it, again. Don’t fall for it. From Rolling Stone:

    The source adds, “He’s talked about this seriously [in the past few months], but I know of one time when he made a joke that was something like, ‘Be careful what you say on the phone!’”

    Moreover, on at least a couple occasions since May, the former president has wondered aloud if there were any Republicans visiting his clubs who could be “wearing a wire,” according to another person close to Trump and a different source familiar with the matter. Trump and his allies are baselessly floating the idea that federal agents could be guilty of “planting” incriminating evidence at his private resort. And the ex-president and several of his longtime advisers are trying to figure out if they have, in their terminology, a “mole” or a “rat” in Trump’s inner sanctum who is slipping his secrets to the feds.

    Multiple people with knowledge of the situation say that as of Wednesday afternoon, Trump and his cohort do not have any evidence to support their groundless talking point that the FBI planted evidence during their search of Trump’s home at the Mar-a-Lago club in Florida earlier this week. Still, the sources say, the upper crust of MAGAland has already begun wildly speculating about who the snitch could be, if such a turncoat exists at all. On Wednesday morning, Axios reported that “Trumpworld is abuzz with speculation about which close aide or aides has ‘flipped’ and provided additional sensitive information to the FBI about what former President Trump was keeping at” his Florida estate. Later that day, intelligence writer William Arkin reported that “the raid on Mar-a-Lago was based largely on information from an FBI confidential human source.” 

    One Trump adviser tells Rolling Stone that since Tuesday, MAGA loyalists have been asking to pass their suspicions to Trump, telling him not to trust certain individuals and to investigate them for possible contacts with federal authorities. “I’m getting a lot of messages saying [things like], ‘This guy must be the informant,’ and others…calling for the [former] president to start doing phone-checks of his staff,” says the adviser. “To be honest, a lot of it feels like people trying to screw over the ones they don’t like [in Trumpworld.]”

    Though Trump’s paranoia is so often fueled by unhinged conspiracy theories, in this case, he has reason to worry. There are various criminal, civil, and federal investigations into Trump, his sprawling family business, and his political allies in his attempts to subvert the 2020 presidential election. But some of his paranoid habits that have cropped up this summer are reminding a few Trump confidants of his term in the Oval Office. During the Mueller investigation, then-President Trump went as far as to ponder to a small number of people whether his own White House Counsel Don McGahn was — in identical wording — “wearing a wire” for the supposedly Trump-loathing federal prosecutors.

    When I worked for him,” says Stephanie Grisham, a former senior Trump aide who has since fallen out with the MAGA royalty, “it was an everyday obsession [about] who was leaking, who was cooperating with what. He’d regularly ask me and others, ‘Do you think I can trust this person?’ or ‘Do you trust this person?’ or tell me to ‘go find the leaker.’” 

    “Shockingly, I feel bad for the guy today, as funny as that sounds,” she adds. “Trump demands total loyalty, and yet he turns on people at a moment’s notice. And he’s now in this situation where he and his people are wondering who among them could be giving some of his most closely held information to the FBI.”

    Grisham concludes, “I mean, who can he trust? It’s just a shitty, sad way to live.”

    According to multiple reports, the raid on Monday sprang from an investigation into whether Trump took classified documents materials from the White House to his Florida home. It is unclear what specific documents are so concerning to federal authorities. But according to two sources with knowledge of the matter, in the time since President Joe Biden was sworn in, Trump has not been shy about flaunting trophies from his years in the Oval Office. Within the past year and a half, Trump’s guests at Mar-a-Lago have at times witnessed the ex-president brandishing certain objects or papers, claiming they were mementos from his stint in the White House as he gave informal tours of his Florida homestead.

    Continues………..

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 26,693
    edited August 11
    Anyone who thinks this is about parking tickets or poor document retention policies isn’t paying attention. Garland was a potential SCOTUS nominee and fully understands the gravity of the current situation and the implications, both real and potential.

    Garland will let the evidence speak for itself at that appropriate time and place and in the appropriate venue, a court. POOTWH can put up or shut the fuck up. You, general you, need to separate the politics from the legal.

    might be wise for folks to look at Garlands record to understand how he operates
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 32,023
    “A shitty, sad way to live.” Understatement of the year. And the repubs’ comments, silence and circling of the wagons make them complicit. But hey, what’s the worst that can happen? Overthrowing of the government?
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 11,835
    I’m going out on a limb and saying the rat is dear Jared boy.  Covering his own ass.  Interesting night of raid Jared and princess Ivanka were in Minnesota.  
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 32,023
    POOTWH plead the fifth 440+ times today in the NY AG’s investigation. Gee, I wonder what other opportunities to speak, you know, under oath, to clear the record or explain himself might have existed?

    “There was no collusion.”
    “I don’t know any Russians.”
    “I have nothing to hide.”
    “I’ll sit down and talk to anyone.”
    “We do everything by the book.”
    “Only the guilty plea the fifth.”
    “Very legal, very cool.”
    “Fully exonerated.”
    “Essentially no obstruction.”
    “Very friendly and totally appropriate.”
    “No quid pro quo.”
    “Imminent threat.”
    “I thought he was Israeli.”
    “I don’t know what a burner phone is.”

    The duped and dupes are an election away from being fully in charge. Good luck with that.


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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 32,023
    edited August 11
    Of the 15 boxes previously retrieved from Mar-I-Lieo, there was a 100 page inventory of the non-classified contents and a 3 page inventory of the classified contents. I look forward to knowing what the inventory of the 10 or 15 boxes retrieved on Monday show.

    What time is dawn?

    Oh, and Brandon stripped the courtesy of POOTWH, as an ex-POTUS, of the legal authority, typically extended, to possess classified information because HE COULDN’T BE TRUSTED WITH IT. Let that sink in.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 32,023
    pjhawks said:
    I’m going out on a limb and saying the rat is dear Jared boy.  Covering his own ass.  Interesting night of raid Jared and princess Ivanka were in Minnesota.  
    You may be spot on as Jared Dear Boy and Ivanka Darlink didn’t plea the fifth once in Letitia James’s depositions of them regarding their property taxes and evaluations. As opposed to the Dim One and POOTWH.
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 14,307
    pjhawks said:
    I’m going out on a limb and saying the rat is dear Jared boy.  Covering his own ass.  Interesting night of raid Jared and princess Ivanka were in Minnesota.  
    You're not the only one who thinks it was Kush

    Lincoln Project co-founder speculates if Jared Kushner was the mole who sold out Trump to the feds - Raw Story - Celebrating 18 Years of Independent Journalism
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  • Cropduster-80Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    pjhawks said:
    I’m going out on a limb and saying the rat is dear Jared boy.  Covering his own ass.  Interesting night of raid Jared and princess Ivanka were in Minnesota.  
    You may be spot on as Jared Dear Boy and Ivanka Darlink didn’t plea the fifth once in Letitia James’s depositions of them regarding their property taxes and evaluations. As opposed to the Dim One and POOTWH.
    Maybe whoever the mole is, Ivana knew something or someone told her something 

    her accident happened the day before those depositions 


  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 32,023
    pjhawks said:
    I’m going out on a limb and saying the rat is dear Jared boy.  Covering his own ass.  Interesting night of raid Jared and princess Ivanka were in Minnesota.  
    You may be spot on as Jared Dear Boy and Ivanka Darlink didn’t plea the fifth once in Letitia James’s depositions of them regarding their property taxes and evaluations. As opposed to the Dim One and POOTWH.
    Maybe whoever the mole is, Ivana knew something or someone told her something 

    her accident happened the day before those depositions 


    Shouldn’t “accident” be in quotation marks?
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 33,211
    holy shit. I didn't know she died as a result of injury. 
    I think I'll move to Australia


  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 26,025
    450 times pleading the 5th lying POS human total coward! 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 32,023
    Maybe there were additional boxes of documents in the apartment of the current resident of the 1st tee at Bedminister?
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 26,180
    edited August 11
    Here's your first guy making a stand, starting the Civil War.  He managed to not get into the FBI building, fled and now is in a standoff.  I'm pretty sure this isn't going to end well for him, nor his "Cause". 

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/shots-fired-fbi-building-cincinnati-reports_n_62f52061e4b0da517ef67b65
  • Cropduster-80Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    edited August 11
    mrussel1 said:
    Here's your first guy making a stand, starting the Civil War.  He managed to not get into the FBI building, fled and now is in a standoff.  I'm pretty sure this isn't going to end well for him, nor his "Cause". 

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/shots-fired-fbi-building-cincinnati-reports_n_62f52061e4b0da517ef67b65
    I hope they don’t turn him into a martyr and they resolve it before other sympathetic individuals show up.


    if this drags on risk goes up

    ruby ridge didn’t end well for the government  and advanced  the cause and paranoia 

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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 26,180
    mrussel1 said:
    Here's your first guy making a stand, starting the Civil War.  He managed to not get into the FBI building, fled and now is in a standoff.  I'm pretty sure this isn't going to end well for him, nor his "Cause". 

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/shots-fired-fbi-building-cincinnati-reports_n_62f52061e4b0da517ef67b65
    I hope they don’t turn him into a martyr and they resolve it before other sympathetic individuals show up.


    if this drags on risk goes up

    ruby ridge didn’t end well for the government  and advanced  the cause and paranoia 

    The police have reported that he has blood on his leg, so he's probably already shot.  I wouldn't shed a tear if he's shot dead.  Let it be a warning.  Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. 
  • Cropduster-80Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Here's your first guy making a stand, starting the Civil War.  He managed to not get into the FBI building, fled and now is in a standoff.  I'm pretty sure this isn't going to end well for him, nor his "Cause". 

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/shots-fired-fbi-building-cincinnati-reports_n_62f52061e4b0da517ef67b65
    I hope they don’t turn him into a martyr and they resolve it before other sympathetic individuals show up.


    if this drags on risk goes up

    ruby ridge didn’t end well for the government  and advanced  the cause and paranoia 

    The police have reported that he has blood on his leg, so he's probably already shot.  I wouldn't shed a tear if he's shot dead.  Let it be a warning.  Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. 
    It’s going to matter who shoots him.  Local police or feds if it comes to that.

    FBI should let the locals do what they need to do.  I would think there are federal and locals responding 
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    pjhawks said:
    I’m going out on a limb and saying the rat is dear Jared boy.  Covering his own ass.  Interesting night of raid Jared and princess Ivanka were in Minnesota.  
    I'm wondering if it is Meadows. Haven't heard from him....almost like he's cutting a deal
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 7,456
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Here's your first guy making a stand, starting the Civil War.  He managed to not get into the FBI building, fled and now is in a standoff.  I'm pretty sure this isn't going to end well for him, nor his "Cause". 

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/shots-fired-fbi-building-cincinnati-reports_n_62f52061e4b0da517ef67b65
    I hope they don’t turn him into a martyr and they resolve it before other sympathetic individuals show up.


    if this drags on risk goes up

    ruby ridge didn’t end well for the government  and advanced  the cause and paranoia 

    The police have reported that he has blood on his leg, so he's probably already shot.  I wouldn't shed a tear if he's shot dead.  Let it be a warning.  Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. 
    It’s going to matter who shoots him.  Local police or feds if it comes to that.

    FBI should let the locals do what they need to do.  I would think there are federal and locals responding 

    It doesn't matter who shoots him, facts will be spun to fit the narrative. 

    Ashley Babbitt deserved every second of the bullet that killed her, they still turned her into a martyr. 

    Crazy people are going to believe crazy things, facts & logic don't matter. 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 26,180
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Here's your first guy making a stand, starting the Civil War.  He managed to not get into the FBI building, fled and now is in a standoff.  I'm pretty sure this isn't going to end well for him, nor his "Cause". 

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/shots-fired-fbi-building-cincinnati-reports_n_62f52061e4b0da517ef67b65
    I hope they don’t turn him into a martyr and they resolve it before other sympathetic individuals show up.


    if this drags on risk goes up

    ruby ridge didn’t end well for the government  and advanced  the cause and paranoia 

    The police have reported that he has blood on his leg, so he's probably already shot.  I wouldn't shed a tear if he's shot dead.  Let it be a warning.  Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. 
    It’s going to matter who shoots him.  Local police or feds if it comes to that.

    FBI should let the locals do what they need to do.  I would think there are federal and locals responding 

    It doesn't matter who shoots him, facts will be spun to fit the narrative. 

    Ashley Babbitt deserved every second of the bullet that killed her, they still turned her into a martyr. 

    Crazy people are going to believe crazy things, facts & logic don't matter. 
    This is my view as well. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 32,023
    mrussel1 said:
    Here's your first guy making a stand, starting the Civil War.  He managed to not get into the FBI building, fled and now is in a standoff.  I'm pretty sure this isn't going to end well for him, nor his "Cause". 

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/shots-fired-fbi-building-cincinnati-reports_n_62f52061e4b0da517ef67b65
    I hope they don’t turn him into a martyr and they resolve it before other sympathetic individuals show up.


    if this drags on risk goes up

    ruby ridge didn’t end well for the government  and advanced  the cause and paranoia 

    BLM and Antiiiiiiiiiifa have martyrs?
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 43,522
    I'm only surprised one of these Maga Morons didn't act sooner. 
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  • Cropduster-80Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    Christopher Wray who was appointed by as the agency’s director in 2017 by Trump, said threats circulating online against the agency were “deplorable and dangerous.”

    Interesting  word choice 
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 33,211
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Here's your first guy making a stand, starting the Civil War.  He managed to not get into the FBI building, fled and now is in a standoff.  I'm pretty sure this isn't going to end well for him, nor his "Cause". 

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/shots-fired-fbi-building-cincinnati-reports_n_62f52061e4b0da517ef67b65
    I hope they don’t turn him into a martyr and they resolve it before other sympathetic individuals show up.


    if this drags on risk goes up

    ruby ridge didn’t end well for the government  and advanced  the cause and paranoia 

    The police have reported that he has blood on his leg, so he's probably already shot.  I wouldn't shed a tear if he's shot dead.  Let it be a warning.  Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. 
    It’s going to matter who shoots him.  Local police or feds if it comes to that.

    FBI should let the locals do what they need to do.  I would think there are federal and locals responding 

    It doesn't matter who shoots him, facts will be spun to fit the narrative. 

    Ashley Babbitt deserved every second of the bullet that killed her, they still turned her into a martyr. 

    Crazy people are going to believe crazy things, facts & logic don't matter. 
    100%
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 26,180
    mrussel1 said:
    Here's your first guy making a stand, starting the Civil War.  He managed to not get into the FBI building, fled and now is in a standoff.  I'm pretty sure this isn't going to end well for him, nor his "Cause". 

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/shots-fired-fbi-building-cincinnati-reports_n_62f52061e4b0da517ef67b65
    I hope they don’t turn him into a martyr and they resolve it before other sympathetic individuals show up.


    if this drags on risk goes up

    ruby ridge didn’t end well for the government  and advanced  the cause and paranoia 

    BLM and Antiiiiiiiiiifa have martyrs?
    Haha, so true
  • dankinddankind I am not your foot. Posts: 20,826
    Call me what you will, but unless they are an immediate threat to their surrounding community, I don't think anyone in the midst of a mental health crisis, regardless of political affiliation, race, and whether they're armed or unarmed, deserves a bullet.

    In my opinion, that "play stupid games/fuck your feelings" mentality is just incredibly inhumane, no matter who's saying it.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 43,522
    edited August 11
    I think the initial knee jerk reaction from a lot of people was that this could be good, politically, for Trump. But, as usual, the entire electorate is not made up just the loony base....

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/11/how-the-trump-fbi-feud-puts-swing-state-republicans-in-a-bind-00051123

    How the Trump-FBI feud puts swing-state Republicans in a bind

    Not all Republicans rushed to Trump’s defense after the FBI search. Here’s why.


    ke that the FBI had searched Donald Trump’s Florida home, MAGA loyalists and even some of the former president’s potential 2024 rivals rushed to a full-throated defense of the former president.

    But not every Republican joined the chorus.

    While the FBI search has given a jolt of energy to the conservative base, the issue is proving to be more complicated in pivotal battleground races that could determine control of the chamber — places where Republicans had been hoping to keep the focus on Democrats’ economic woes and off of Trump.

    On Monday night, while several Senate GOP nominees jumped to blast the FBI and federal justice officials, Republican candidates in the swing states of Pennsylvania and North Carolina held off. The next morning, as pressure mounted from vocal right-wing activists, celebrity doctor Mehmet Oz, who is running for the Senate in Pennsylvania, took to Twitter with a message that did not mention Trump by name but merely lamented the country’s divisions and asserted that Americans had “every right” to demand answers about the search and seizure of documents.

    Rep. Ted Budd, who is seeking a Senate seat in North Carolina, likewise eventually tweeted from his official Congress account after his office was bombarded with calls asking about his response. His statement said Americans deserved a “full explanation” of what happened.

    Those calls for transparency from Oz and Budd differ markedly from the more fiery rebukes from other Republicans who painted America as a lawless banana republic — and reflect that some GOP candidates in battleground states are erring on the side of caution in discussing a Trump investigation that could influence critical independent and suburban voters.

    “The reintroducing of his radioactive persona and politics is coming at a very inopportune time for Republicans,” said Michael Brodkorb, a former deputy chair of the Minnesota GOP. “Republicans want this election cycle to be about Joe Biden, inflation, jobs and the economy, and right now, it’s becoming more about Donald Trump. And just like a rock in the shoe that won’t go away, he’s back again, and it’s going to complicate an election cycle that was trending to be a very uncomplicated one for Republicans.”

    The caution in some corners in the GOP also reflects just how tight the contest is for control of the Senate. After initially declining to weigh in on the Mar-a-Lago search at a press conference — which prompted criticism from pro-Trump activists — Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell also decided to take a cautious tack of calling for transparency, issuing a statement arguing that “the country deserves a thorough and immediate explanation of what led to the events of Monday.”

    Scott Jennings, a Kentucky-based GOP strategist who has served as an adviser to McConnell, said that approach enables Republicans to nod to the party base without turning off more moderate voters.

    “If you’re a candidate who doesn’t want to engage in conspiracy theories, but you also don’t want to ignore it, it’s a pretty good place to land by saying, ‘We need some transparency here,’” Jennings said. “Donald Trump — like him or not — this is not a run-of-the-mill situation. Because half the American people are going to believe something politically motivated is afoot.”

    Jonathan Felts, a senior adviser to Budd, said the campaign decided to wait on issuing a statement because they assumed there would be some type of explanation from the Department of Justice.

    “We didn’t have a political calculus,” Felts said of the campaign’s decision not to immediately jump on the issue Monday.

    But as Budd’s congressional office began getting slammed with phone calls from constituents angry about a perceived overreach by the Biden administration, his official House social media accounts — though not ones associated with his Senate campaign — posted a statement just before noon Tuesday. Calling the search “unprecedented,” Budd, who has touted his support from law enforcement, stopped short of suggesting the FBI activity was illegitimate.

    “Shame on us for thinking Joe Biden wouldn’t play partisan politics with the FBI,” Felts said in a statement to POLITICO, explaining the campaign’s decision.

    Oz’s campaign declined to elaborate on his statement.

    In Colorado and Washington, two blue states Senate Republicans are eyeing this year as potential pickups, the GOP nominees haven’t publicly mentioned the FBI activity involving Trump.

    Despite the downsides of the issue for some candidates, many Republican strategists also see an upside: It’s a fundraising opportunity for the GOP, especially among small-dollar donors. Jennings guessed that “every fundraising consultant in America, when this happened, called their client and said, ‘Hop on this immediately.’”

    And some did, including Oz. In stark contrast to his remarks on Twitter, a fundraising email from Oz sent Tuesday afternoon called for fighting back “against THIS NEFARIOUS CORRUPTION.”

    Josh Novotney, a Pennsylvania-based GOP consultant, said another benefit is that the search could supercharge Republican voters to go to the polls: “The FBI, I’m not calling them political by any means, but what they do ends up having political ramifications. And I think what happened with Mar-a-Lago, after seeing the reaction of a lot of conservatives, is it will probably motivate conservatives to have even more dislike for the administration.”

    Several Republican Senate nominees in battleground states took an approach to the Mar-a-Lago search more directly aimed at those voters.

    Sen. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Senate candidates Adam Laxalt of Nevada and Herschel Walker of Georgia each lambasted the “weaponization” or “weaponizing” of federal agencies under Biden. And in Arizona, Republican Senate nominee Blake Masters tried to contrast the FBI action against Trump with alleged inaction by law enforcement against violent crime affecting ordinary citizens.

    “When street crimes go unsolved but opposition leaders are hounded by federal police, you’re living in a third world country,” Masters tweeted Monday night. On Tuesday and Wednesday, he doubled down, asking why his opponent, Democratic Sen. Mark Kelly, had not remarked on the “politicization of the DOJ.”

    Johnson not only put out a scorching statement on social media, he participated in a series of interviews in which he hinted at nefarious activity by the FBI, including suggesting on the radio that the agency might have been “recovering evidence that would be embarrassing to the FBI.”

    Those Republicans’ comments matched the sentiment of Florida Sen. Rick Scott, chair of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, who declared that “every Republican must demand accountability.” Scott reiterated his feelings on television, even as other members of Senate GOP leadership — members more closely aligned with McConnell — took a more measured approach.

    Kelly isn’t the only Democratic Senate candidate in a swing state who has remained tight-lipped about the Mar-a-Lago search — in fact, all in the top battlegrounds have been. Even as liberal activists and commentators have gloated, Lt. Govs. John Fetterman of Pennsylvania and Mandela Barnes of Wisconsin, both of whom are vying for the Senate, steered clear of mentioning the FBI action against Trump. Democratic incumbents in other competitive races were also mum, choosing instead to tweet about policy matters or troll their opponents on unrelated issues.

    Though many Democrats are counting down the days until Trump announces a 2024 presidential bid under the belief that it would help them in midterms, some party strategists believe nationalizing Senate races could backfire. Fetterman, who has lambasted bad trade deals and run TV ads on Fox News, is making a play for rural voters and Trump supporters. Barnes has highlighted his middle-class roots in an effort to appeal to a broad electorate.

    A focus group of swing voters in Pennsylvania held on Wednesday evening, which was viewed exclusively by POLITICO, highlighted the complicated political dynamics of the moment. All of the voters in the focus group held by the Republican Accountability Project had supported Biden or a third-party candidate in 2020 after casting a ballot for Trump four years earlier. About half expressed suspicion of the FBI’s actions and believed it would rally Trump’s base.

    “They just want to find a reason to prevent [Trump] to run,” said one woman who was planning to vote for Fetterman.

    Another woman supporting Fetterman said “I don’t know enough about it” when asked whether the search was a political stunt.

    A man who was a soft Oz supporter, and leaning toward backing Democratic gubernatorial nominee Josh Shapiro, said “there’s subpoenas, there’s other ways to get” Trump’s documents. “A raid — if that’s what it’s about, it’s over the top.”

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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 33,211
    dankind said:
    Call me what you will, but unless they are an immediate threat to their surrounding community, I don't think anyone in the midst of a mental health crisis, regardless of political affiliation, race, and whether they're armed or unarmed, deserves a bullet.

    In my opinion, that "play stupid games/fuck your feelings" mentality is just incredibly inhumane, no matter who's saying it.
    I don't think anyone here is arguing against that. 
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 14,701
    dankind said:
    Call me what you will, but unless they are an immediate threat to their surrounding community, I don't think anyone in the midst of a mental health crisis, regardless of political affiliation, race, and whether they're armed or unarmed, deserves a bullet.

    In my opinion, that "play stupid games/fuck your feelings" mentality is just incredibly inhumane, no matter who's saying it.
    FBI agents are people....I call that a surrounding community
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