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That's such bullshit. He's not even in the same stadium of conservatism as William Buckley. But as yet, you have failed to delineate between a left and liberal, so I guess we shouldn't expect you to be able to define conservatism either.RYME said:
Most conservative president ever.vaggar99 said:
Trump is no Conservative. The "Conservatives" are, however, him.RYME said:On the moving train, as a conservative, on most issues I've tried to poke around to see if there's any common ground. Or perhaps give you a little clarification some insight on the other side and some of the whys. Not trying to convert anyone.
A few are willing to have a conversation at least even if they disagree, but most just sling mud.
This is a Nowhere Road
Door number one or door number two.
Door #1
A huge plate full of dog s*** must eat
Door #2
A large man with a machete, who will chop one arm off
Choose
https://youtu.be/kppBxEkb8to
What ever
Even trolls love rock n roll
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‘Nough said.
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no thanks.RYME said:
Not liberals.Ledbetterman10 said:To be a devil's advocate for RYME, when he suggests that not everybody that voted for Trump did it because of Trump's racist rhetoric/agenda, he gets hit with a typical (and wrong) liberal view that "If you voted for him, you're supporting racism whether you think you're racist or not." So I can't blame him for going with a typical (and wrong) conservative view that "liberals hate America."
There's a huge difference between liberals and leftists. Leftists hate America.
Liberals are patriotic and love America, but have some fundamental differences with conservatives on how things should be done. But the two sides don't hate each other.
Liberals and conservatives have a lot in common.
The left is an entirely different entity.
The left hates America no question.Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 061320180 -
Lower. 29%Halifax2TheMax said:Team Trump Treason’s base, anywhere from between 35% to 43% of those who voted for him and the previous two repub candidates, anywhere from 20,981,913 to 27,083,476 of American voters, are racist, homophobic, misogynistic and fear “the other.”
Claiming Team Trump Treason isn’t racist after knowing the following: discriminated against black renters in the family business, called for the death penalty of five black teens accused of a brutal sexual assault and after being proven innocent via DNA evidence, refused to apologize or take back his statements, implementing a Muslim ban, “both sides are the same,” Mexico sends us not their best but rapists and drug dealers, calling predominantly African American NFL players sons of bitches for exercising their first amendment rights, basking in the glow of chants of “send her home” and following it up with further racist tweets is ignorance, plain and simple. But hey, how about that stock market?Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 061320180 -
it should be 7% tops.Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 061320180
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mrussel1 said:
That's such bullshit. He's not even in the same stadium of conservatism as William Buckley. But as yet, you have failed to delineate between a left and liberal, so I guess we shouldn't expect you to be able to define conservatism either.RYME said:
Most conservative president ever.vaggar99 said:
Trump is no Conservative. The "Conservatives" are, however, him.RYME said:On the moving train, as a conservative, on most issues I've tried to poke around to see if there's any common ground. Or perhaps give you a little clarification some insight on the other side and some of the whys. Not trying to convert anyone.
A few are willing to have a conversation at least even if they disagree, but most just sling mud.
This is a Nowhere Road
Door number one or door number two.
Door #1
A huge plate full of dog s*** must eat
Door #2
A large man with a machete, who will chop one arm off
Choosehttps://youtu.be/kppBxEkb8to
What ever
Even trolls love rock n rollhttps://youtu.be/6r9kJGmZOQQ
My bad (modern era)mrussel1 said:
That's such bullshit. He's not even in the same stadium of conservatism as William Buckley. But as yet, you have failed to delineate between a left and liberal, so I guess we shouldn't expect you to be able to define conservatism either.RYME said:
Most conservative president ever.vaggar99 said:
Trump is no Conservative. The "Conservatives" are, however, him.RYME said:On the moving train, as a conservative, on most issues I've tried to poke around to see if there's any common ground. Or perhaps give you a little clarification some insight on the other side and some of the whys. Not trying to convert anyone.
A few are willing to have a conversation at least even if they disagree, but most just sling mud.
This is a Nowhere Road
Door number one or door number two.
Door #1
A huge plate full of dog s*** must eat
Door #2
A large man with a machete, who will chop one arm off
Choosehttps://youtu.be/kppBxEkb8to
What ever
Even trolls love rock n rollhttps://youtu.be/6r9kJGmZOQQ
Left/liberal
Leftists won't understand the difference.
Traditional liberals do.
There might not be any old school liberals here.
I have no problem with them.
You are so far left old school liberalizm is almost dead..
To explain it to you would be like pissing into the wind. You've made that clear.0 -
Your labels are not very accurate. Worse, they're boring. SADRYME said:mrussel1 said:
That's such bullshit. He's not even in the same stadium of conservatism as William Buckley. But as yet, you have failed to delineate between a left and liberal, so I guess we shouldn't expect you to be able to define conservatism either.RYME said:
Most conservative president ever.vaggar99 said:
Trump is no Conservative. The "Conservatives" are, however, him.RYME said:On the moving train, as a conservative, on most issues I've tried to poke around to see if there's any common ground. Or perhaps give you a little clarification some insight on the other side and some of the whys. Not trying to convert anyone.
A few are willing to have a conversation at least even if they disagree, but most just sling mud.
This is a Nowhere Road
Door number one or door number two.
Door #1
A huge plate full of dog s*** must eat
Door #2
A large man with a machete, who will chop one arm off
Choosehttps://youtu.be/kppBxEkb8to
What ever
Even trolls love rock n rollhttps://youtu.be/6r9kJGmZOQQ
My bad (modern era)mrussel1 said:
That's such bullshit. He's not even in the same stadium of conservatism as William Buckley. But as yet, you have failed to delineate between a left and liberal, so I guess we shouldn't expect you to be able to define conservatism either.RYME said:
Most conservative president ever.vaggar99 said:
Trump is no Conservative. The "Conservatives" are, however, him.RYME said:On the moving train, as a conservative, on most issues I've tried to poke around to see if there's any common ground. Or perhaps give you a little clarification some insight on the other side and some of the whys. Not trying to convert anyone.
A few are willing to have a conversation at least even if they disagree, but most just sling mud.
This is a Nowhere Road
Door number one or door number two.
Door #1
A huge plate full of dog s*** must eat
Door #2
A large man with a machete, who will chop one arm off
Choosehttps://youtu.be/kppBxEkb8to
What ever
Even trolls love rock n rollhttps://youtu.be/6r9kJGmZOQQ
Left/liberal
Leftists won't understand the difference.
Traditional liberals do.
There might not be any old school liberals here.
I have no problem with them.
You are so far left old school liberalizm is almost dead..
To explain it to you would be like pissing into the wind. You've made that clear.Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 061320180 -
Interestingly enough 7% of 350,000,000, US population, is 24,000,000.ikiT said:it should be 7% tops.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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You're a joke then. My posts here are so clearly center left. Go read my criticisms of Warren's and Bernie's policies and AOC's self defeating political strategies. Yet you say I'm so far left. It's clear that your arguments are so fundamentally weak that you resort to the "if you don't know then im not telling you" strategy. What's next, "why don't you tell me and then I'll tell you if you're right" argument? Lame. Think things through before you post. Someone's going to challenge you on an intellectual levelRYME said:mrussel1 said:
That's such bullshit. He's not even in the same stadium of conservatism as William Buckley. But as yet, you have failed to delineate between a left and liberal, so I guess we shouldn't expect you to be able to define conservatism either.RYME said:
Most conservative president ever.vaggar99 said:
Trump is no Conservative. The "Conservatives" are, however, him.RYME said:On the moving train, as a conservative, on most issues I've tried to poke around to see if there's any common ground. Or perhaps give you a little clarification some insight on the other side and some of the whys. Not trying to convert anyone.
A few are willing to have a conversation at least even if they disagree, but most just sling mud.
This is a Nowhere Road
Door number one or door number two.
Door #1
A huge plate full of dog s*** must eat
Door #2
A large man with a machete, who will chop one arm off
Choosehttps://youtu.be/kppBxEkb8to
What ever
Even trolls love rock n rollhttps://youtu.be/6r9kJGmZOQQ
My bad (modern era)mrussel1 said:
That's such bullshit. He's not even in the same stadium of conservatism as William Buckley. But as yet, you have failed to delineate between a left and liberal, so I guess we shouldn't expect you to be able to define conservatism either.RYME said:
Most conservative president ever.vaggar99 said:
Trump is no Conservative. The "Conservatives" are, however, him.RYME said:On the moving train, as a conservative, on most issues I've tried to poke around to see if there's any common ground. Or perhaps give you a little clarification some insight on the other side and some of the whys. Not trying to convert anyone.
A few are willing to have a conversation at least even if they disagree, but most just sling mud.
This is a Nowhere Road
Door number one or door number two.
Door #1
A huge plate full of dog s*** must eat
Door #2
A large man with a machete, who will chop one arm off
Choosehttps://youtu.be/kppBxEkb8to
What ever
Even trolls love rock n rollhttps://youtu.be/6r9kJGmZOQQ
Left/liberal
Leftists won't understand the difference.
Traditional liberals do.
There might not be any old school liberals here.
I have no problem with them.
You are so far left old school liberalizm is almost dead..
To explain it to you would be like pissing into the wind. You've made that clear.0 -
I won’t debate with a blind Baffoon supporter anymore, they don’t give a crap about morality or anything that entails a good characteristic of a decent human !jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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I can see a bunch of people's position are changing...lolGive Peas A Chance…0
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Yeah I don't expect it much, but at least be able to defend your position. If you can't, why post at all? As much as people give BSxxx grief, he can give as good as he gets. Ledbetter seems to as well.Meltdown99 said:I can see a bunch of people's position are changing...lol0 -
But it shouldn’t be about trying to change someone but rather have them acknowledge the reality of seeing someone for who they are , no one can say or point to any good human qualities this president possesses unless I’ve missed it so can someone point me to where he has shown a good human trait ? I’ll be here waiting...mrussel1 said:
Yeah I don't expect it much, but at least be able to defend your position. If you can't, why post at all? As much as people give BSxxx grief, he can give as good as he gets. Ledbetter seems to as well.Meltdown99 said:I can see a bunch of people's position are changing...loljesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
That's a pretty thin line to walk there. Theoretically, if someone recognizes the repugnancy of Trump, they would therefore stop supporting the man at all costs (judges, taxes, etc.). This is the position of a true conservative, the 'never Trumper', an increasingly rare species. Justin Amash, John Kasich, Jonah Goldberg, David French, John McCain these are all men of principle. I may not agree with all of their principles, but at least they have a moral center. Mittons... he's a mixed bag. He will always seems like a PE guy..an opportunist. He's a high class opportunist, not a clown like Trump.josevolution said:
But it shouldn’t be about trying to change someone but rather have them acknowledge the reality of seeing someone for who they are , no one can say or point to any good human qualities this president possesses unless I’ve missed it so can someone point me to where he has shown a good human trait ? I’ll be here waiting...mrussel1 said:
Yeah I don't expect it much, but at least be able to defend your position. If you can't, why post at all? As much as people give BSxxx grief, he can give as good as he gets. Ledbetter seems to as well.Meltdown99 said:I can see a bunch of people's position are changing...lol0 -
That’s just it we shouldn’t settle for a clown be it Democrat Republican or what ever , you guys are smarter and up to speed on the politics of this nation I’m just beginning to learn politics , I agree with your points ..mrussel1 said:
That's a pretty thin line to walk there. Theoretically, if someone recognizes the repugnancy of Trump, they would therefore stop supporting the man at all costs (judges, taxes, etc.). This is the position of a true conservative, the 'never Trumper', an increasingly rare species. Justin Amash, John Kasich, Jonah Goldberg, David French, John McCain these are all men of principle. I may not agree with all of their principles, but at least they have a moral center. Mittons... he's a mixed bag. He will always seems like a PE guy..an opportunist. He's a high class opportunist, not a clown like Trump.josevolution said:
But it shouldn’t be about trying to change someone but rather have them acknowledge the reality of seeing someone for who they are , no one can say or point to any good human qualities this president possesses unless I’ve missed it so can someone point me to where he has shown a good human trait ? I’ll be here waiting...mrussel1 said:
Yeah I don't expect it much, but at least be able to defend your position. If you can't, why post at all? As much as people give BSxxx grief, he can give as good as he gets. Ledbetter seems to as well.Meltdown99 said:I can see a bunch of people's position are changing...loljesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
Having served in that same branch, I dont get it. I thought seals were smarter than that....RYME said:Apparently you're never going to get it.
This is what it's all about nothing more nothing less.
https://youtu.be/wLNZ1NZuVOk
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He's woefully misinformed on a number of topics. Republicans in the north may have been supportive of MLK, but not conservatives. The concept of Rockefeller Republicans escapes those that get their information from "Prager U"eddiec said:RYME said:One can never say all about practically anything, but Martin Luther king Jr. was a liberal who most conservatives got behind and embraced. Thats what I mean. Embraced his whole message.
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I dont know maybe this should have gone in the Kaepernick thread.stuckinline said:
Look I have the utmost respect for the American flag and the military, but why didn't he just lower the flag to reattach the lower portion?RYME said:Apparently you're never going to get it.
This is what it's all about nothing more nothing less.https://youtu.be/wLNZ1NZuVOk
How is this related to Trump?
This is the symbolic mindset of the average Trump voter. Race has nothing to do with it.
I'm beating a dead horse here, but race has nothing to do with it.
I do not believe that Trump is racist. Sorry I don't.
The Fab Four hate America. The left loaths America. Those people in Colorado that hung our flag upside down hate of America.
This is the polar opposite of that.
Y'all act like Trump is going to be president forever. It's 4 to 8 years and then we can all move on to the next series of outrages regardless of who wins.Still dont understand the "hate america" accusation.of those 4, 3 are "natural born" and the 4th came as a refugee. Omar was given an expectation of what the US was and is, by media and by officials of the government. She seems to have found that the shiny brochure version she was told. doesnt exactly line up with real world living here. So in exercising her naturalized 1st amendment right to criticize the government and a fair amount of its citizens who are bigoted racist fuckheads , she suddenly hates the US?Sorry, its our fucking duty as citizens to criticize that which falls short of the brochure. We arent as far along as we like to think or believe. in fact the needle hasn't moved all that far at all........So tell me I hate The US....... I dare you.
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Its inherent in being a supporter of the so-called president that they have no morals or ethics or know about doing the right thing.josevolution said:I won’t debate with a blind Baffoon supporter anymore, they don’t give a crap about morality or anything that entails a good characteristic of a decent human !
After all supporting the currently elected president means supporting a "man" and a govt that is racist, xenophobic, misogynist, anti-constitutional, and white nationalist.
So trying to debate is waste a time and energy.#ITMFA
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Murssel you are probably more of a liberal than leftist. Leftist is extreme. Liberal is center/left. I can have a convrsation with a liberal, I cannot have a conversation with a far extreme leftist.mrussel1 said:
You're a joke then. My posts here are so clearly center left. Go read my criticisms of Warren's and Bernie's policies and AOC's self defeating political strategies. Yet you say I'm so far left. It's clear that your arguments are so fundamentally weak that you resort to the "if you don't know then im not telling you" strategy. What's next, "why don't you tell me and then I'll tell you if you're right" argument? Lame. Think things through before you post. Someone's going to challenge you on an intellectual levelRYME said:mrussel1 said:
That's such bullshit. He's not even in the same stadium of conservatism as William Buckley. But as yet, you have failed to delineate between a left and liberal, so I guess we shouldn't expect you to be able to define conservatism either.RYME said:
Most conservative president ever.vaggar99 said:
Trump is no Conservative. The "Conservatives" are, however, him.RYME said:On the moving train, as a conservative, on most issues I've tried to poke around to see if there's any common ground. Or perhaps give you a little clarification some insight on the other side and some of the whys. Not trying to convert anyone.
A few are willing to have a conversation at least even if they disagree, but most just sling mud.
This is a Nowhere Road
Door number one or door number two.
Door #1
A huge plate full of dog s*** must eat
Door #2
A large man with a machete, who will chop one arm off
Choosehttps://youtu.be/kppBxEkb8to
What ever
Even trolls love rock n rollhttps://youtu.be/6r9kJGmZOQQ
My bad (modern era)mrussel1 said:
That's such bullshit. He's not even in the same stadium of conservatism as William Buckley. But as yet, you have failed to delineate between a left and liberal, so I guess we shouldn't expect you to be able to define conservatism either.RYME said:
Most conservative president ever.vaggar99 said:
Trump is no Conservative. The "Conservatives" are, however, him.RYME said:On the moving train, as a conservative, on most issues I've tried to poke around to see if there's any common ground. Or perhaps give you a little clarification some insight on the other side and some of the whys. Not trying to convert anyone.
A few are willing to have a conversation at least even if they disagree, but most just sling mud.
This is a Nowhere Road
Door number one or door number two.
Door #1
A huge plate full of dog s*** must eat
Door #2
A large man with a machete, who will chop one arm off
Choosehttps://youtu.be/kppBxEkb8to
What ever
Even trolls love rock n rollhttps://youtu.be/6r9kJGmZOQQ
Left/liberal
Leftists won't understand the difference.
Traditional liberals do.
There might not be any old school liberals here.
I have no problem with them.
You are so far left old school liberalizm is almost dead..
To explain it to you would be like pissing into the wind. You've made that clear.
Bryanlux will differ with me on almost everything, but demonstrates respect & that we can agree to disagree. Pop a beer and play music that we both like light a smoke and bury the hatchet.
That is not the case with Halifax. He hates my guts.
Im not talking about all.
Eventually sombody here is going to maybe understand the difference I'm talking about..
*Bu$hleager I would say is a liberal tune. Hard-hitting, but melodic, clever, has a rhythm (I disagree with its premis but I don't mind it) I sing along with it when its playing. Nice protest song not over the top.
*Can't Deny Me is a leftist tune. Disjointed no melody eratic temper tantrum shreek song. Can't sing along with it.
Still searching for the right words to clarify. Maybe this will help maybe I'm pissing in the wind again.
What does intellectual mean? Enlightened??
There's another big difference between smart and wise.
2+2=52 right?Post edited by RYME on0
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