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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 19,853
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Representative Devin Nunca retiring to become CEO of POOTWH’s social media empire. How about that 800% return and non-disclosure of investors? Feeling good about the future, ‘Murica?
    He was getting redistricted...
    California does a independent commission I believe. If he was getting redistricted it isn’t like some of the stuff going on in Texas right now, he wasn’t getting gerrymandered out. 
    No,  but his district was much more blue,  to the point he would have been in jeopardy.  So it was run a tough race,  move to a a new district and take on a primary against an existing member or retire. 
    or take a job where he can have his nose even further up the former guy's tailpipe.
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  • static111 said:
    Representative Devin Nunca retiring to become CEO of POOTWH’s social media empire. How about that 800% return and non-disclosure of investors? Feeling good about the future, ‘Murica?
    A man's got to work for somebody
    Might as well work for the devil himself, I suppose?
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  • Good lord. He envisions himself as some brilliant political strategist.

    It was on May 9, 2017, when Donald Trump fired James Comey as the director of the FBI. The Republican president hadn't yet been in office for four months, but he nevertheless ousted Comey six years before the end of his 10-year term.

    A few days later, Trump sat down with NBC News' Lester Holt and effectively confessed that he fired the FBI director in order to undermine the investigation into the Russia scandal. It was a rare instance in which a sitting president willingly raised the prospect of obstructing justice during a national television interview.

    Four years later, the Republican is apparently still confessing.

    In an interview that aired last night, Trump sat down with Fox News' Mark Levin, apparently to help promote a new book with photographs from his time in the White House. Their discussion turned to the Russia scandal, which the former president said may have been made up in Hillary Clinton's kitchen. He added:

    "[A] lot of people say to me, 'How you survived is one of the most incredible things.' Don't forget, I fired Comey. Had I not fired Comey, you might not be talking to me right now about a beautiful book of four years at the White House. And we'll see about the future. The future's going to be very interesting. But I fired Comey, that whole group, and now that group is coming back again. I mean, it's not believable. It shouldn't be allowed to happen. It shouldn't be allowed to happen."

    The host tried to change the subject, but later in the interview, Trump seemed eager to talk about this some more.

    "I was going to say before, if I didn't fire Comey, they were looking to take down the President of the United States. If I didn't fire him, and some people said, 'He made a mistake when he fired Comey.' And now those same people said it was the most incredible instinctual moves that they've ever seen, because I wouldn't — I might be here with you, perhaps we'll be talking about something else. But I don't think I could have survived if I didn't fire him, because it was like a hornet's nest."

    It was three years ago when The Atlantic's Adam Serwer wrote, "Donald Trump can't stop telling on himself." A year later, Nick Akerman, a former Watergate prosecutor, said, "What he's been saying in public is the kind of thing I used to prosecute people for doing in private."


    Maddow Blog | Trump says a bit too much about James Comey's FBI firing (again) (msn.com)

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  • ^^

    Problem is when you’ve got the unitary executive theory.  Basically anything a president does is ok because they are the president, in a nutshell. 

    Gained a lot of traction during GW Bush years, but you’ve got several Supreme Court justices who agree with as well, Alito and Thomas in particular 

    pretty sure the new members subscribe to it as well 

    Not sure a court who agrees with that theory would ever say a president can obstruct justice with respect to the executive branch. The FBI is rolled into the executive branch via the DOJ

    its a slippery slope to a dictatorship 
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 42,535
    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trumps-2022-endorsements-are-earlier-bolder-and-more-dangerous-than-when-he-was-president/

    Trump’s 2022 Endorsements Are Earlier, Bolder And More Dangerous Than When He Was President


    NC Senate Candidate Ted Budd and Former US President Donald Trump
    Trump’s endorsements so far paint a picture of an ex-president who is eager to maintain his influence within his party. 

    MELISSA SUE GERRITS / GETTY IMAGES

    Almost since the moment of his inauguration, former President Donald Trump has been the kingmaker of the Republican Party. In both the 2018 and 2020 elections, Trump-endorsed candidates won almost every Republican primary they competed in. (Of course, many of Trump’s endorsees were already well on their way to victory, but it was still a hot commodity among candidates, serving as evidence of their pro-Trump bona fides. And in several cases, Trump’s support really did appear to influence the outcomes of primaries.)

    Now that Trump is no longer president, however, one of the big questions of the 2022 midterms is what degree of influence he still wields within his party. We won’t really know the answer to that question until next year’s elections get going in earnest. But one thing we already know is that Trump’s endorsement strategy looks pretty different from when he was in office. Here are three patterns we’ve noticed so far:

    1. He’s endorsing earlier than usual

    First, Trump is endorsing more candidates earlier. So far in the 2022 midterm cycle (as of Dec. 7), he has endorsed 33 candidates in Republican primaries to fill roles in the U.S. Senate, U.S. House and state governorships. That’s more than double the number of candidates Trump had endorsed by the end of December 2019.

    The fact that Trump is endorsing earlier could do a couple of things: One, it could dissuade other Republican challengers when Trump isn’t endorsing them — more on that in a bit — and two, it helps Trump solidify his influence in the party.

    On that first point, consider that Trump endorsed Sen. John Kennedy, one of the former president’s top allies, for reelection to his Louisiana Senate seat back in March — 20 months ahead of the state’s November 2022 jungle primary. No Republican has announced their intention to challenge Kennedy, and Trump’s endorsement could keep it that way. Even in crowded fields like the North Carolina Senate race, Trump’s early endorsement of Rep. Ted Budd could signal to the former president’s supporters who the most Trump-aligned candidate is and stop other candidates from gaining traction.

    But perhaps most importantly, with Trump no longer in office, his early endorsements are the biggest signal that he has no intention of leaving politics anytime soon. And with recent polling suggesting that Republican voters want Trump to maintain a major role in politics, endorsements could be a key way for him to keep his base engaged.

    2. He’s taking more risks with his endorsements

    A big reason why Trump-endorsed primary candidates have had such stellar records is that most of them were already heavily favored to win their elections. For example, in the 2020 election, Trump endorsed 113 candidates in GOP primaries for Senate, House and governor — but 21 of them ran completely unopposed, and another 67 were incumbents (who rarely lose renomination). That means Trump endorsed only 25 non-incumbents in contested Republican primaries for those three offices. In other words, only about 22 percent of his 2020 primary endorsements were actually risky.1

    ADVERTISING

    So far in the 2022 elections, however, Trump has endorsed 16 non-incumbents in contested Republican primaries for these offices — almost half of his total endorsements.

    Trump has already endorsed in many GOP primaries

    Senate, House and governor candidates who have been endorsed by Donald Trump in 2022 Republican primaries, as of Dec. 7, 2021

    CANDIDATE▲▼STATE▲▼OFFICE▲▼INCUMBENT?▲▼INCUMBENT CHALLENGER?▲▼
    Mo BrooksAlabamaSenate
    Kelly TshibakaAlaskaSenate
    Kari LakeArizonaGovernor
    John BoozmanArkansasSenate
    Rick CrawfordArkansasHouse
    Anna Paulina LunaFloridaHouse
    Mike WaltzFloridaHouse
    Marco RubioFloridaSenate
    Herschel WalkerGeorgiaSenate
    David PerdueGeorgiaGovernor
    Mike CrapoIdahoSenate
    Janice McGeachinIdahoGovernor
    Chuck GrassleyIowaSenate
    Jerry MoranKansasSenate
    Rand PaulKentuckySenate
    John KennedyLouisanaSenate
    Geoff DiehlMassachusettsGovernor
    Steve CarraMichiganHouse
    Ryan ZinkeMontanaHouse
    Charles HerbsterNebraskaGovernor
    Adam LaxaltNevadaSenate
    Virginia FoxxNorth CarolinaHouse
    Ted BuddNorth CarolinaSenate
    Max MillerOhioHouse
    Sean Parnell*PennsylvaniaSenate
    Henry McMasterSouth CarolinaGovernor
    Tim ScottSouth CarolinaSenate
    Diana HarshbargerTennesseeHouse
    Bill LeeTennesseeGovernor
    Joe KentWashingtonHouse
    Derrick Van OrdenWisconsinHouse
    Ron Johnson†WisconsinSenate
    Harriet HagemanWyomingHouse

    *Dropped out.
    †Has not yet announced his campaign.

    The incumbents in Max Miller’s and Geoff Diehl’s races dropped out after Trump endorsed their challengers.

    SOURCE: SAVE AMERICA

    What’s more, Trump has actively tried to unseat eight incumbent members of his own party: He has endorsed primary challengers to Rep. Liz Cheney, Rep. Jaime Herrera Beutler, Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp, Idaho Gov. Brad Little, Sen. Lisa Murkowski and Rep. Fred Upton, and he also endorsed challengers to Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker and Rep. Anthony Gonzalez — before both announced they would not seek reelection (decisions that may have been influenced by Trump’s opposition). Opposing the reelection of an incumbent from your own party is quite rare, even for Trump. In 2018 and 2020 combined, Trump endorsed only two candidates who were challenging incumbents: Katie Arrington against Rep. Mark Sanford of South Carolina and Kris Kobach against Kansas Gov. Jeff Colyer.

    These two facts suggest a clear shift in Trump’s endorsement strategy: Instead of trying to pad his win rate by endorsing in a bunch of uncompetitive primaries, he is actively putting his clout on the line more often in hopes of installing more of his loyalists in Congress and governor’s offices — and purging the GOP of his critics. Cheney, Gonzalez, Herrera Beutler and Upton all voted to impeach Trump for inciting the Jan. 6 insurrection, while Murkowski voted to convict him. Baker, Kemp and Little, as governors, played no role in Trump’s impeachment, but Baker did express support for it, and Kemp earned Trump’s wrath for certifying President Biden’s win in Georgia.

    3. He’s endorsing down-ballot candidates, especially in election-administration roles

    Finally, not only is Trump endorsing earlier in national races, but he’s also backing candidates in state-level elections, particularly for secretary of state.

    Trump has endorsed candidates for secretary of state — a state’s top election official — in ArizonaGeorgia and Michigan. This is an unusually niche endorsement for a president to make; Trump didn’t endorse in any secretary of state primaries in 2018, for instance. But the logic here is clear: These three secretaries of state in question refused to overturn the 2020 presidential result in their states, and Trump is now attempting to fill these positions with officials who baselessly think the 2020 presidential election was stolen from him.

    The candidates Trump is backing for these offices are all supporters of the “Big Lie,” or Trump’s unfounded claims that voter fraud cost him the 2020 election. For instance, Georgia Rep. Jody Hice, the Trump-backed secretary of state candidate, believes the 2020 election was unfair and voted against certifying the election. It’s a similar story in Arizona, where Mark Finchem, a current state representative, has continued to call for the decertification of the 2020 election results in Maricopa County. And finally, in Michigan, Kristina Karamo claimed that as a poll challenger she saw fraud during the state’s absentee ballot counting in the 2020 election.

    Taken together, Trump’s endorsements so far paint a picture of an ex-president who is eager to maintain his influence within his party — perhaps even paving the way for the (possibly illegitimate) continuation of his own political career. By endorsing early, he’s trying to fill a power vacuum at the head of the GOP caused by his own loss in the 2020 election. And by endorsing in more competitive races, he’s also taking a more active role in ensuring that the direction of the Republican Party remains a Trumpy one. Finally, by trying to replace his critics with those who support the Big Lie, he is trying to create a scenario where a Republican-controlled state government or Congress might refuse to certify a Democratic victory in the 2024 election, potentially returning him to the White House despite losing the election. Such a scenario would trigger a constitutional crisis — but, of course, Trump’s endorsees will first have to win their elections to make this possible. Be sure to stick with us throughout the primary season as we once again track the success rate of Trump’s endorsement in the GOP primaries.

    CORRECTION (Dec. 8, 2021, 10:00 a.m.): An earlier version of this article said that for the 2022 midterm cycle, former President Donald Trump had endorsed 31 candidates in Republican primaries to fill roles in the U.S. Senate, U.S. House and state governorships so far. In fact, he has endorsed 33 candidates. This article, including the charts, has been updated to reflect his endorsements of Lt. Gov. Janice McGeachin for governor of Idaho and businessman Charles Herbster for governor of Nebraska.

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  • During the 2018 midterms, I couldn't help but laugh at Trump's endorsement tweets. Here's how every single one of them went....

    "[Insert GOP candidate here] is a pro-America, pro-second amendment conservative that's tough on crime and wants strong borders! He'll be great for the people of [insert state here]. Good luck [insert GOP candidate here]! You have my full endorsement!"

    ....but with spelling/grammatical errors. 
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  • ikiTikiT USAPosts: 10,119
    this situation absolutely calls for a really stupid and futile statement be put out on someone's part. and trump is just the person to do it.
    He never kept his mouth shut and walked quietly by a situation, except one time.


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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 42,535
    During the 2018 midterms, I couldn't help but laugh at Trump's endorsement tweets. Here's how every single one of them went....

    "[Insert GOP candidate here] is a pro-America, pro-second amendment conservative that's tough on crime and wants strong borders! He'll be great for the people of [insert state here]. Good luck [insert GOP candidate here]! You have my full endorsement!"

    ....but with spelling/grammatical errors. 
    He is still saying the same exact thing now except he's added "very strong on election integrity/reform" or some bullshit. 
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 13,402
    ikiT said:
    this situation absolutely calls for a really stupid and futile statement be put out on someone's part. and trump is just the person to do it.
    He never kept his mouth shut and walked quietly by a situation, except one time.


    lol...look at him wearing a mask like a big pu$$y
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 19,853
    NY AG just subpoenaed him to testify in fraud case.

    spoiler alert.

    he will not comply.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 19,853
    also AG james just suspended her NY governor race to run for AG again. so maybe there is something to this?
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    Trump slams Israel's Netanyahu for congratulating Biden
    Today

    JERUSALEM (AP) — Former President Donald Trump lashed out with profanity at Benjamin Netanyahu for congratulating President Joe Biden on his victory in last year's election, an Israeli newspaper reported Friday.

    Trump accused the former Israeli leader of disloyalty, saying he had helped Netanyahu in his own elections by reversing decades of U.S. policy and supporting Israel's claims to territory seized in war. Trump is still falsely claiming the U.S. election was stolen from him.

    In interviews earlier this year with the Israeli journalist Barak Ravid, Trump expressed fury at a video Netanyahu circulated online in which he congratulated Biden.

    “Nobody did more for Bibi. And I liked Bibi. I still like Bibi,” Trump said, referring to Netanyahu by his nickname, in the remarks published by the Yediot Aharonot newspaper. “But I also like loyalty... Bibi could have stayed quiet. He has made a terrible mistake.”

    Netanyahu congratulated Biden more than 12 hours after the election had been called and after most other world leaders. Netanyahu did not refer to him as president-elect in the tweet, and followed it up with a post praising Trump.

    Trump appeared to be particularly incensed by a video released by Netanyahu on Jan. 20, the day Biden was inaugurated, in which Netanyahu said he and Biden had a “warm personal friendship going back many decades.”

    “I haven’t spoken to him since. F—- him,” Trump was quoted as saying.

    Netanyahu was replaced as prime minister last summer after he was unable to form a governing majority in the wake of four hard-fought elections in less than two years.

    The Trump administration took unprecedented steps to support Israel, including dropping objections to its settlements in the occupied West Bank and recognizing Jerusalem as its capital. After proposing a Mideast plan that was adamantly rejected by the Palestinians, the administration brokered normalization agreements between Israel and four Arab states.

    Trump said his decision to recognize Israel's annexation of the Golan Heights, which it captured from Syria in the 1967 war, helped Netanyahu ahead of Israeli elections in April 2019.

    “I did it right before the election, which helped him (Netanyahu) a lot," Trump said.

    The Trump administration also withdrew from the 2015 Iran nuclear deal, to which Israel had been strongly opposed. After he re-imposed U.S. sanctions that had been lifted under the deal, Iran began publicly exceeding the limits it had set on its nuclear program. Biden is now working with world powers to try to restore the agreement.

    “I’ll tell you what — had I not come along I think Israel was going to be destroyed," Trump said. "I think Israel would have been destroyed maybe by now.”


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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 25,109
    F* them both. 
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 19,853
    lol trump is angry because the leader of a different country showed disloyalty.

    disloyalty to trump, lol.

    he is just gonna die mad at everyone.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 31,394
    lol trump is angry because the leader of a different country showed disloyalty.

    disloyalty to trump, lol.

    he is just gonna die mad at everyone.
    I take great pleasure in his misery. I really don't like that I do, but I do. 
    I think I'll move to Australia


  • JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 2,561
    He throws more pissy tantrums than my 2 year old grandson. 
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 19,853
    lol trump is angry because the leader of a different country showed disloyalty.

    disloyalty to trump, lol.

    he is just gonna die mad at everyone.
    I take great pleasure in his misery. I really don't like that I do, but I do. 
    i will take greater pleasure when he finally faces some kind of consequence. and i will not feel bad in the least.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 19,853
    He throws more pissy tantrums than my 2 year old grandson. 
    maybe your grandson will grow up to be president one day!
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  • lol trump is angry because the leader of a different country showed disloyalty.

    disloyalty to trump, lol.

    he is just gonna die mad at everyone.
    I take great pleasure in his misery. I really don't like that I do, but I do. 
    i will take greater pleasure when he finally faces some kind of consequence. and i will not feel bad in the least.
    I feel the same way, but would clarify with "*IF* he faces some kind of consequence"; I'm not convinced that he ever will. 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 25,109
    He throws more pissy tantrums than my 2 year old grandson. 
    maybe your grandson will grow up to be president one day!
    If he stops maturing right now, he has a chance. 
  • JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 2,561
    He throws more pissy tantrums than my 2 year old grandson. 
    maybe your grandson will grow up to be president one day!
    I wouldn't put anything past that little guy. He is a real character, even at 2.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 42,535
    also AG james just suspended her NY governor race to run for AG again. so maybe there is something to this?
    You never know

    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/287707/the-indictment-of-donald-j-trump#latest
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 31,394
    if it hasn't happened yet, I don't see it happening
    I think I'll move to Australia


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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 42,535
    if it hasn't happened yet, I don't see it happening
    That's what people said about impeachment and then that happened twice in the span of two years.

    I picked 2022. So still plenty of time for that. 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 31,394
    if it hasn't happened yet, I don't see it happening
    That's what people said about impeachment and then that happened twice in the span of two years.

    I picked 2022. So still plenty of time for that. 
    I think that's what people said about removal, not impeachment. 
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 42,535
    edited December 2021
    if it hasn't happened yet, I don't see it happening
    That's what people said about impeachment and then that happened twice in the span of two years.

    I picked 2022. So still plenty of time for that. 
    I think that's what people said about removal, not impeachment. 
    Unless people were confused by what impeachment meant, I'm not sure that was the case. 

    Or maybe those same people are under the impression that an indictment means he goes to prison...
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  • static111static111 Posts: 3,445
    NewsFlash Trump will never face a consequence in his life
  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MNPosts: 4,164
    if it hasn't happened yet, I don't see it happening
    That's what people said about impeachment and then that happened twice in the span of two years.

    I picked 2022. So still plenty of time for that. 
    I think that's what people said about removal, not impeachment. 
    Probably a bit of both. Ultimately, though, he faced no consequences and I don't see a lot of reason to think it'll ever happen.
    1995 Milwaukee
    1998 Alpine, Alpine
    2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston
    2004 Boston, Boston
    2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty)
    2011 Alpine, Alpine
    2013 Wrigley
    2014 St. Paul
    2016 Fenway, Fenway, Wrigley, Wrigley
    2018 Missoula, Wrigley, Wrigley
    2021 Asbury Park
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