Donald Trump

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Halifax2TheMax said:

He signs a bill? What bill? Does the bill have a name? Or is it a $100 bank note?

Today's Events

11:00 AM: President Trump meets with National Security Advisor H.R. McMaster

2:00 PM: Press Briefing with Press Secretary Sean Spicer - Watch

3:00 PM: President Trump meets with House and Senate Leadership

4:30 PM: President Trump signs a bill

6:30 PM: President Trump has dinner with Members of Congress

Let me add some more parts to those events:
6 am: watch fox and friends and tweet some crazy shit that no one understand
6:15am: insult his wife on twitter
6:20 am :tweets something else that is the opposite of what his staff told the press.
6:30 Calls Putin to see what he would like the Donald to do next

HughFreakingDillon

Tiki said:

The binary black OR white 2 party electoral system is rigged.  That's why it was easy to fuck with. Between the far too long primary procedure and the joke that is the Electoral College it must be changed if not totally scrapped.

What if everyone ran for president for a month with zero outside $$? One nationwide vote with the top three vote getters  having a runoff two weeks later.  Two 3 hour debates between the 3 candidates, one the night after the initial election, and the second one with 1 week to go. Then you open it up for a week of early voting.  Strictly Popular vote.  6 weeks as opposed to a year and a half.

What if we had a real STATESMAN or STATESWOMAN as our President again and not this effing clown?

you know, I've often thought about how this could be done better. the problem is, being insanely rich seems to be the only way to stop from having 3,000 candidates for president and no way of navigating in any reasonable amount of time who's platform is what. the public is already disengaged enough with the process as it is.

or does it become more of a promotion type of thing, where you have to be in local politics first, if you are good enough, you get to the state level, then federal. that way we'd weed out the power hungry douchebags that don't give a shit about making communities better and who don't wish to serve their country rather their own initiatives. I mean, already the republicans had 13 people on the ticket, and even that was difficult to figure out who was what. doesn't help that during the primaries they aren't required to release a bloody platform, which is ridiculous. 

there should be no private donations allowed, and no use of your own funds either. if people want to donate, then it all goes in a pool and is divided up equally between candidates at a certain point, and they can use it how they wish for the campaign. donations would significantly decrease, but you'd also have to make it law that all candidates release their financials prior to entering the race, and after it's over, win lose or draw. 

PJ_Soul

HesCalledDyer said:

PJ_Soul said:

The Juggler said:

PJ_Soul said:

my2hands said:

Hillary is about as authentic as Cheez Wiz and continues to show why so many just flat out don't liker her or trust her

She admits fault just about as often as Trump does. Never.

Uh huh. But choosing Trump over her is insane or just plain stupid. I think it was extremely irresponsible for people to vote for him.

two horrible candidates.....however one was a rational human being and the other was not. unfortunately the irrational idiot won.

I don't even think you can call Clinton horrible if you're going to call Trump horrible too. His horribleness was and is on such a different level that it doesn't work to use the same word for both people. Anyway, the short version of the story is that the voters are responsible for this whole situation, more than anyone else.

Trump voters and non-voters.

Yes.... I genuinely feel awful for those voters who knew better.

Cliffy6745

This is glorious.  What a swell guy

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2017/06/06/how-donald-trump-shifted-kids-cancer-charity-money-into-his-business/#3e971386b4a3

my2hands

maybe they should have given the non-voters something to actually vote for instead of running on just saying "I'm not the orange guy"...

especially when the Obama era neo-liberal policies seemed to only accelerate the growing divide between the have and the have not's, leaving behind main street while wall street boomed... stocking his cabinet with goldman sachs and other wall street insiders... didn't Obama just give a $400k speech to a wall street firm? that coupled with the fact that they seemingly relied strictly on identity/gender politics and completely ignored the working white class vote all over this country.... ignored the rust belt... ignored the working class... didn't even campaign in these places... and we wonder why Trump won everything from Harrisburg to Spokane (besides Illinois)

like Hillary, feel free to continue to ignore the real reason for the loss... a flawed and terribly inauthentic candidate that still reeks of hubris

do I think she would be a better president? of course.... but that's not the point

i'm not a partisan hack, I call it how I see it

HesCalledDyer

my2hands said:

maybe they should have given the non-voters something to actually vote for instead of running on just saying "I'm not the orange guy"...

especially when the Obama era neo-liberal policies seemed to only accelerate the growing divide between the have and the have not's, leaving behind main street while wall street boomed... stocking his cabinet with goldman sachs and other wall street insiders... didn't Obama just give a $400k speech to a wall street firm? that coupled with the fact that they seemingly relied strictly on identity/gender politics and completely ignored the working white class vote all over this country.... ignored the rust belt... ignored the working class... didn't even campaign in these places... and we wonder why Trump won everything from Harrisburg to Spokane (besides Illinois)

like Hillary, feel free to continue to ignore the real reason for the loss... a flawed and terribly inauthentic candidate that still reeks of hubris

do I think she would be a better president? of course.... but that's not the point

i'm not a partisan hack, I call it how I see it

There were plenty of candidates other than Trump and Clinton.

HughFreakingDillon

HesCalledDyer said:

my2hands said:

maybe they should have given the non-voters something to actually vote for instead of running on just saying "I'm not the orange guy"...

especially when the Obama era neo-liberal policies seemed to only accelerate the growing divide between the have and the have not's, leaving behind main street while wall street boomed... stocking his cabinet with goldman sachs and other wall street insiders... didn't Obama just give a $400k speech to a wall street firm? that coupled with the fact that they seemingly relied strictly on identity/gender politics and completely ignored the working white class vote all over this country.... ignored the rust belt... ignored the working class... didn't even campaign in these places... and we wonder why Trump won everything from Harrisburg to Spokane (besides Illinois)

like Hillary, feel free to continue to ignore the real reason for the loss... a flawed and terribly inauthentic candidate that still reeks of hubris

do I think she would be a better president? of course.... but that's not the point

i'm not a partisan hack, I call it how I see it

There were plenty of candidates other than Trump and Clinton.

but it's human nature in the 21st century to vote for the candidates who are on the most tv and billboards. we're a ridiculously stupid race. 

PJ_Soul

my2hands said:

maybe they should have given the non-voters something to actually vote for instead of running on just saying "I'm not the orange guy"...

especially when the Obama era neo-liberal policies seemed to only accelerate the growing divide between the have and the have not's, leaving behind main street while wall street boomed... stocking his cabinet with goldman sachs and other wall street insiders... didn't Obama just give a $400k speech to a wall street firm? that coupled with the fact that they seemingly relied strictly on identity/gender politics and completely ignored the working white class vote all over this country.... ignored the rust belt... ignored the working class... didn't even campaign in these places... and we wonder why Trump won everything from Harrisburg to Spokane (besides Illinois)

like Hillary, feel free to continue to ignore the real reason for the loss... a flawed and terribly inauthentic candidate that still reeks of hubris

do I think she would be a better president? of course.... but that's not the point

i'm not a partisan hack, I call it how I see it

I call bullshit on the non-voters who say they didn't vote because they didn't have anyone decent to vote for. Suck it up sisters! There is ALWAYS one who is better than the other in every single person's mind, and in this case, the difference was GLARINGLY obvious, no matter how bad some may have thought Clinton was... Although the vilification of Clinton was outrageously overwrought in any case. She would have basically led in the same way as Obama did. She just isn't as charming as him. And yes, I do wonder why Trump won so much of the working white class vote. It's Donald fucking Trump. It says something very scary about a lot of working white people, not about Clinton. That one single adult in the country thought Trump would be good for working middle class people is totally shocking to me. What a bunch of morons.

Plus, in this case, not being the orange guy was more than enough reason to vote in a way that kept him out of office. Seriously. I don't get how anybody can think that isn't a good enough reason to vote. Blows my mind.

OnWis97

Cliffy6745 said:

This is glorious.  What a swell guy

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2017/06/06/how-donald-trump-shifted-kids-cancer-charity-money-into-his-business/#3e971386b4a3

Fake news.  How can you tell?  Not from Trump's Twitter account.  

Number of supporters he'll lose because of this: 0.

jeffbr

At some point the GOP congresscritters are going to have to realize that toeing the party line isn't in their (or the country's) best interest. 

SUPPORT FOR DONALD TRUMP'S IMPEACHMENT IS NOW HIGHER THAN HIS APPROVAL RATING

"The president's approval rating dipped from nearly 42 percent to just 36 percent over the weekend, according to a Gallup daily tracking poll published Monday. Trump's declining popularity is inching closer toward his all-time low of 35 percent as president in March, when Gallup had the president’s approval at just 35 percent. What's more, nearly 43 percent of American voters support the idea of beginning the official impeachment process for Trump, according to a Politico/Morning Consult poll published Wednesday."

Halifax2TheMax

Those brilliant headlines will be going away any day now. Any. Day. Now. To fade into the brilliant brilliance of the setting sun.

Halifax2TheMax

jeffbr said:

At some point the GOP congresscritters are going to have to realize that toeing the party line isn't in their (or the country's) best interest. 

SUPPORT FOR DONALD TRUMP'S IMPEACHMENT IS NOW HIGHER THAN HIS APPROVAL RATING

"The president's approval rating dipped from nearly 42 percent to just 36 percent over the weekend, according to a Gallup daily tracking poll published Monday. Trump's declining popularity is inching closer toward his all-time low of 35 percent as president in March, when Gallup had the president’s approval at just 35 percent. What's more, nearly 43 percent of American voters support the idea of beginning the official impeachment process for Trump, according to a Politico/Morning Consult poll published Wednesday."

Untenable

Gern Blansten

And today we learn that money was diverted from Eric Trump's foundation to Donald tRump's pockets...

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/forbes-eric-trump-foundation-trump-organization-payments

HesCalledDyer

PJ_Soul said:

my2hands said:

maybe they should have given the non-voters something to actually vote for instead of running on just saying "I'm not the orange guy"...

especially when the Obama era neo-liberal policies seemed to only accelerate the growing divide between the have and the have not's, leaving behind main street while wall street boomed... stocking his cabinet with goldman sachs and other wall street insiders... didn't Obama just give a $400k speech to a wall street firm? that coupled with the fact that they seemingly relied strictly on identity/gender politics and completely ignored the working white class vote all over this country.... ignored the rust belt... ignored the working class... didn't even campaign in these places... and we wonder why Trump won everything from Harrisburg to Spokane (besides Illinois)

like Hillary, feel free to continue to ignore the real reason for the loss... a flawed and terribly inauthentic candidate that still reeks of hubris

do I think she would be a better president? of course.... but that's not the point

i'm not a partisan hack, I call it how I see it

I call bullshit on the non-voters who say they didn't vote because they didn't have anyone decent to vote for. Suck it up sisters! There is ALWAYS one who is better than the other in every single person's mind, and in this case, the difference was GLARINGLY obvious, no matter how bad some may have thought Clinton was... Although the vilification of Clinton was outrageously overwrought in any case. She would have basically led in the same way as Obama did. She just isn't as charming as him. And yes, I do wonder why Trump won so much of the working white class vote. It's Donald fucking Trump. It says something very scary about a lot of working white people, not about Clinton. That one single adult in the country thought Trump would be good for working middle class people is totally shocking to me. What a bunch of morons.

Plus, in this case, not being the orange guy was more than enough reason to vote in a way that kept him out of office. Seriously. I don't get how anybody can think that isn't a good enough reason to vote. Blows my mind.

To me, it's weird that anyone in the working middle (and lower) classes would vote for the big Republican or Democrat candidate in any general election.  There isn't a god damn one of them that has our interests in mind.  They're all bought and paid for by corporate lobbyists.  That Trump ran on a campaign of draining the swamp - getting rid of lobbyists and corruption - is part of what attracted people.  But why ANY SINGLE ONE OF THEM thought he would actually hold true to this is what really blows my damn mind!  The dude is a multi-billionaire and has made a living out of screwing over innocent people to make another buck.

The rest is obvious, no matter how much a Trump voter tries to deny it.

HughFreakingDillon

OnWis97 said:

Cliffy6745 said:

This is glorious.  What a swell guy

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2017/06/06/how-donald-trump-shifted-kids-cancer-charity-money-into-his-business/#3e971386b4a3

Fake news.  How can you tell?  Not from Trump's Twitter account.  

Number of supporters he'll lose because of this: 0.

doesn't matter anymore. 

HesCalledDyer

I also have a question for Trump supporters and Obama haters.  Since, you know, you guys like to play the "where was the outrage when?" card so much.

Y'all lost your shit over Kathy Griffin last week.  So, WHERE WAS THE OUTRAGE WHEN SASHA & MALIA SAW IMAGE AFTER IMAGE OF THEIR FATHER BEING HANGED THE LAST 8 YEARS???!!

jeffbr

HesCalledDyer said:

PJ_Soul said:

my2hands said:

maybe they should have given the non-voters something to actually vote for instead of running on just saying "I'm not the orange guy"...

especially when the Obama era neo-liberal policies seemed to only accelerate the growing divide between the have and the have not's, leaving behind main street while wall street boomed... stocking his cabinet with goldman sachs and other wall street insiders... didn't Obama just give a $400k speech to a wall street firm? that coupled with the fact that they seemingly relied strictly on identity/gender politics and completely ignored the working white class vote all over this country.... ignored the rust belt... ignored the working class... didn't even campaign in these places... and we wonder why Trump won everything from Harrisburg to Spokane (besides Illinois)

like Hillary, feel free to continue to ignore the real reason for the loss... a flawed and terribly inauthentic candidate that still reeks of hubris

do I think she would be a better president? of course.... but that's not the point

i'm not a partisan hack, I call it how I see it

I call bullshit on the non-voters who say they didn't vote because they didn't have anyone decent to vote for. Suck it up sisters! There is ALWAYS one who is better than the other in every single person's mind, and in this case, the difference was GLARINGLY obvious, no matter how bad some may have thought Clinton was... Although the vilification of Clinton was outrageously overwrought in any case. She would have basically led in the same way as Obama did. She just isn't as charming as him. And yes, I do wonder why Trump won so much of the working white class vote. It's Donald fucking Trump. It says something very scary about a lot of working white people, not about Clinton. That one single adult in the country thought Trump would be good for working middle class people is totally shocking to me. What a bunch of morons.

Plus, in this case, not being the orange guy was more than enough reason to vote in a way that kept him out of office. Seriously. I don't get how anybody can think that isn't a good enough reason to vote. Blows my mind.

To me, it's weird that anyone in the working middle (and lower) classes would vote for the big Republican or Democrat candidate in any general election.  There isn't a god damn one of them that has our interests in mind.  They're all bought and paid for by corporate lobbyists.  That Trump ran on a campaign of draining the swamp - getting rid of lobbyists and corruption - is part of what attracted people.  But why ANY SINGLE ONE OF THEM thought he would actually hold true to this is what really blows my damn mind!  The dude is a multi-billionaire and has made a living out of screwing over innocent people to make another buck.

The rest is obvious, no matter how much a Trump voter tries to deny it.

:clap: Well said!

PJ_Soul

Cliffy6745 said:

This is glorious.  What a swell guy

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2017/06/06/how-donald-trump-shifted-kids-cancer-charity-money-into-his-business/#3e971386b4a3

Crazy. What is depressing is that most people aren't even willing to read an article that long to find out exactly how shady this really is. Holy moly. 

CM189191

PJ_Soul said:

Cliffy6745 said:

This is glorious.  What a swell guy

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2017/06/06/how-donald-trump-shifted-kids-cancer-charity-money-into-his-business/#3e971386b4a3

Crazy. What is depressing is that most people aren't even willing to read an article that long to find out exactly how shady this really is. Holy moly. 

No surprises there, considering how he treats his own family

Donald Trump cut off medical funds to nephew's sick baby because he was 'angry' over family feud

Following the death of Freddy, his son, Fred III, got married and had a child. Shortly after birth, the baby began having seizures which later developed into cerebral palsy.

The Trump family pledged to pay for the child's medical bills, but that came to an end after the reading of Fred Sr's will, which Donald Trump had reportedly helped draft while his father was still alive.

In Fred Trump Sr's will, much of the inheritance, believed to be around $20 million, was divided between four of his five children and their descendants - leaving Freddy explicitly excluded from receiving any of the money.

After this came to light, Freddy's children sued, claiming Donald Trump (their uncle) and his siblings had wielded "undue influence" over Fred Sr, who suffered from dementia in the last years of his life.

It is alleged that a week later Donald retaliated by withdrawing the funds that were meant to pay for the healthcare of his nephew's ill child.

Explaining this decision, Donald told the paper: "I was angry because they sued"