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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117

    Six members of the Presidential Advisory Council on HIV/AIDS resigned last week, owing to "a president who simply does not care," one member wrote in a Newsweek op-ed on Friday headlined "Trump doesn't care about HIV. We're outta here."


    http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/20/health/trump-hiv-advisers-resigned/index.html

    Trump only cares about Trump... he doesnt give a shit about this country or anything else... it's so  obvious it's ridiculous anybody would support this POS
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,893
    my2hands said:

    Six members of the Presidential Advisory Council on HIV/AIDS resigned last week, owing to "a president who simply does not care," one member wrote in a Newsweek op-ed on Friday headlined "Trump doesn't care about HIV. We're outta here."


    http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/20/health/trump-hiv-advisers-resigned/index.html

    Trump only cares about Trump... he doesnt give a shit about this country or anything else... it's so  obvious it's ridiculous anybody would support this POS

    Do you think Trump knows he has a Presidential Advisory Council on HIV/AIDS?
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  • Controversial or not?
    Propaganda?
    What do you feel about this wall?
    I know that I don't want the mess around my neighbourhood.
    http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/controversial-homeless-wall-goes-up-in-california/ar-BBCXzTP?ocid=spartanntp
    Some critics are even comparing the project to President Trumps border wall.

  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,893
    Latest tweet from President Donald J. Trump...
    The U.S. once again condemns the brutality of the North Korean regime as we mourn its latest victim. While I greatly appreciate the efforts of President Xi & China to help with North Korea, it has not worked out. At least I know China tried!

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/20/politics/trump-china-north-korea/index.html

    "While I greatly appreciate the efforts of President Xi & China to help with North Korea, it has not worked out. At least I know China tried," Trump wrote.
      The tweet, which came hours before the United States and China were set to meet in Washington to talk about North Korea, caught multiple Trump administration officials off guard, leaving them scrambling as they tried to figure out what exactly what the President meant.
      One Trump administration official said bluntly they didn't know what Trump was referencing when asked what the tweet meant.
      Read More
      Another cautioned against reading too much into the message, arguing that there was no meeting earlier in the day that could have spurred the comment or that that tweet foretold some sort of unilateral action against North Korea.

      What a complete and utter disaster of a president. I'm sure BS can tell us exactly what he meant though.

      Oh look. Another example of a tweet not helping his cause.
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    • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,947
      edited June 2017

      Controversial or not?
      Propaganda?
      What do you feel about this wall?
      I know that I don't want the mess around my neighbourhood.
      http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/controversial-homeless-wall-goes-up-in-california/ar-BBCXzTP?ocid=spartanntp
      Some critics are even comparing the project to President Trumps border wall.

      Well where, exactly, do they expect these homeless people to go, if they don't camp there? Any time a homeless camp is shut down and/or deterred, that is the question everyone should be asking. Because if the city decides to send the campers packing, they ought to be making sure they offer some kind of alternative, but they NEVER do.

      As for comparing it to Trump's border wall... I don't really see a connection. Homelessness and illegal border jumpers are a completely different issue. I mean, yeah, they're both walls that are supposed to block people from entering something... but so are a zillion other walls in the world. It's better to keep the issues of homelessness and Trump's wall separate.
      Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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    • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
      BS44325 said:

      PJ_Soul said:
      my2hands said:
      When 7 military service personnel die in an accident... or in any way, frankly... I expect the POTUS to give a fucking statement. And not through Twitter like a 15 year old. Period. 
      I gotta agree with the first part...the POTUS needs to get in front of a camera on this.

      However, if used appropriately, I could see him sending a twitter message first.  It's just that he can't do that without being a 15 year old.
      I don't have an issue with the president, any president, utilizing social media for official statements. the way trump uses it though, it's as if twitter is the official information supplier of the white house. it just seems so.....nontraditional. unofficial. however you want to put it. 
      Times change.  Presidents used to use radio then TV. ;)

      So the question I have is, is trump cutting edge with his use of twitter....or am I just seeing his tweets more than Obama because of how stupid they are?

      Cause if he is using it more, he is changing the political landscape moving forward.  And it can be a very effective tool.  Now we just need someone who isn't a tool using it as president!!
      How he uses it is unprofessional, unethical, and an extension of his narcissism. I don't see it as cutting edge. 
      Let's cut out the bullshit. The way Trump uses Twitter, in his position, is fucking insane. Literally.
      It is very much sane. It is essentially how he won the Presidency over the Clinton money machine. I don't like it either but whether politically it currently does him more harm then good is the open question. You were all wrong before...maybe you are wrong again? Maybe? Nah.
      I don't see how that makes him sane. Every time he tweets something it almost always makes his job and the republicans job of getting shit done harder.
    • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,993
      my2hands said:
      BS44325 said:

      my2hands said:
      When 7 military service personnel die in an accident... or in any way, frankly... I expect the POTUS to give a fucking statement. And not through Twitter like a 15 year old. Period. 
      A statement was given through Spicer and the Navy

      http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/japan-investigates-delay-reporting-us-navy-ship-collision-48127236

      "White House press secretary Sean Spicer said President Donald Trump and the entire administration was sending their thoughts and prayers to the sailors' families. The incident was a "sobering reminder of the dangers" faced by the men and women of the U.S. military every day, Spicer said.

      In a statement, acting Navy Secretary Sean Stackley said, "We are all deeply saddened by the tragic loss of our fellow shipmates. ... As details emerge, we can all be proud of the heroic effort by the crew to tend to the needs of those injured and save the ship from further damage while returning safely to port."

      He thanked "our Japanese allies" for their swift assistance, and said the Navy will fully investigate the cause."

      They are also investigating time discrepancies in the reporting of the collision. But maybe they should just shut up and not investigate.

      What a joke... the guy spent more time commenting on Arnold Schwarzenegger's TV ratings...

      How many deferments did faux tough guy Donnie take during Vietnam? 

      Wait, let me guess, it's Obamas fault? lol


      If you guessed five, you'd be correct.


      https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/02/us/politics/donald-trump-draft-record.html


      Two less than ChickenHawk Cheney.

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    • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
      my2hands said:
      BS44325 said:

      my2hands said:
      When 7 military service personnel die in an accident... or in any way, frankly... I expect the POTUS to give a fucking statement. And not through Twitter like a 15 year old. Period. 
      A statement was given through Spicer and the Navy

      http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/japan-investigates-delay-reporting-us-navy-ship-collision-48127236

      "White House press secretary Sean Spicer said President Donald Trump and the entire administration was sending their thoughts and prayers to the sailors' families. The incident was a "sobering reminder of the dangers" faced by the men and women of the U.S. military every day, Spicer said.

      In a statement, acting Navy Secretary Sean Stackley said, "We are all deeply saddened by the tragic loss of our fellow shipmates. ... As details emerge, we can all be proud of the heroic effort by the crew to tend to the needs of those injured and save the ship from further damage while returning safely to port."

      He thanked "our Japanese allies" for their swift assistance, and said the Navy will fully investigate the cause."

      They are also investigating time discrepancies in the reporting of the collision. But maybe they should just shut up and not investigate.

      What a joke... the guy spent more time commenting on Arnold Schwarzenegger's TV ratings...

      How many deferments did faux tough guy Donnie take during Vietnam? 

      Wait, let me guess, it's Obamas fault? lol


      If you guessed five, you'd be correct.


      https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/02/us/politics/donald-trump-draft-record.html


      Two less than ChickenHawk Cheney.

      What a dilemma for Trump - on the one hand, by self-definition he is completely healthy; in fact, the healthiest president ever, and yet he had a medical condition serious enough to avoid the draft. What a blow to his ego. 

      But on another note - an undergraduate degree in real estate?? Those even exist? 
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    • ^^^
      Certain medical conditions make you unfit for service.
      Many degrees exist.
    • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177
      dignin said:
      BS44325 said:

      PJ_Soul said:
      my2hands said:
      When 7 military service personnel die in an accident... or in any way, frankly... I expect the POTUS to give a fucking statement. And not through Twitter like a 15 year old. Period. 
      I gotta agree with the first part...the POTUS needs to get in front of a camera on this.

      However, if used appropriately, I could see him sending a twitter message first.  It's just that he can't do that without being a 15 year old.
      I don't have an issue with the president, any president, utilizing social media for official statements. the way trump uses it though, it's as if twitter is the official information supplier of the white house. it just seems so.....nontraditional. unofficial. however you want to put it. 
      Times change.  Presidents used to use radio then TV. ;)

      So the question I have is, is trump cutting edge with his use of twitter....or am I just seeing his tweets more than Obama because of how stupid they are?

      Cause if he is using it more, he is changing the political landscape moving forward.  And it can be a very effective tool.  Now we just need someone who isn't a tool using it as president!!
      How he uses it is unprofessional, unethical, and an extension of his narcissism. I don't see it as cutting edge. 
      Let's cut out the bullshit. The way Trump uses Twitter, in his position, is fucking insane. Literally.
      It is very much sane. It is essentially how he won the Presidency over the Clinton money machine. I don't like it either but whether politically it currently does him more harm then good is the open question. You were all wrong before...maybe you are wrong again? Maybe? Nah.
      I don't see how that makes him sane. Every time he tweets something it almost always makes his job and the republicans job of getting shit done harder.
      Exactly right. And we had another example just today:

      Trump to China: Thanks for trying with North Korea

      ""While I greatly appreciate the efforts of President Xi & China to help with North Korea, it has not worked out. At least I know China tried," Trump wrote.
        The tweet, which came hours before the United States and China were set to meet in Washington to talk about North Korea, caught multiple Trump administration officials off guard, leaving them scrambling as they tried to figure out what exactly what the President meant."
        "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
      • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,993
        jeffbr said:
        dignin said:
        BS44325 said:

        PJ_Soul said:
        my2hands said:
        When 7 military service personnel die in an accident... or in any way, frankly... I expect the POTUS to give a fucking statement. And not through Twitter like a 15 year old. Period. 
        I gotta agree with the first part...the POTUS needs to get in front of a camera on this.

        However, if used appropriately, I could see him sending a twitter message first.  It's just that he can't do that without being a 15 year old.
        I don't have an issue with the president, any president, utilizing social media for official statements. the way trump uses it though, it's as if twitter is the official information supplier of the white house. it just seems so.....nontraditional. unofficial. however you want to put it. 
        Times change.  Presidents used to use radio then TV. ;)

        So the question I have is, is trump cutting edge with his use of twitter....or am I just seeing his tweets more than Obama because of how stupid they are?

        Cause if he is using it more, he is changing the political landscape moving forward.  And it can be a very effective tool.  Now we just need someone who isn't a tool using it as president!!
        How he uses it is unprofessional, unethical, and an extension of his narcissism. I don't see it as cutting edge. 
        Let's cut out the bullshit. The way Trump uses Twitter, in his position, is fucking insane. Literally.
        It is very much sane. It is essentially how he won the Presidency over the Clinton money machine. I don't like it either but whether politically it currently does him more harm then good is the open question. You were all wrong before...maybe you are wrong again? Maybe? Nah.
        I don't see how that makes him sane. Every time he tweets something it almost always makes his job and the republicans job of getting shit done harder.
        Exactly right. And we had another example just today:

        Trump to China: Thanks for trying with North Korea

        ""While I greatly appreciate the efforts of President Xi & China to help with North Korea, it has not worked out. At least I know China tried," Trump wrote.
          The tweet, which came hours before the United States and China were set to meet in Washington to talk about North Korea, caught multiple Trump administration officials off guard, leaving them scrambling as they tried to figure out what exactly what the President meant."
          Just more brilliant Trump geo-political strategy in all it's brilliant brilliance.
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        • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
          PJ_Soul said:
          BS44325 said:

          PJ_Soul said:
          my2hands said:
          When 7 military service personnel die in an accident... or in any way, frankly... I expect the POTUS to give a fucking statement. And not through Twitter like a 15 year old. Period. 
          I gotta agree with the first part...the POTUS needs to get in front of a camera on this.

          However, if used appropriately, I could see him sending a twitter message first.  It's just that he can't do that without being a 15 year old.
          I don't have an issue with the president, any president, utilizing social media for official statements. the way trump uses it though, it's as if twitter is the official information supplier of the white house. it just seems so.....nontraditional. unofficial. however you want to put it. 
          Times change.  Presidents used to use radio then TV. ;)

          So the question I have is, is trump cutting edge with his use of twitter....or am I just seeing his tweets more than Obama because of how stupid they are?

          Cause if he is using it more, he is changing the political landscape moving forward.  And it can be a very effective tool.  Now we just need someone who isn't a tool using it as president!!
          How he uses it is unprofessional, unethical, and an extension of his narcissism. I don't see it as cutting edge. 
          Let's cut out the bullshit. The way Trump uses Twitter, in his position, is fucking insane. Literally.
          It is very much sane. It is essentially how he won the Presidency over the Clinton money machine. I don't like it either but whether politically it currently does him more harm then good is the open question. You were all wrong before...maybe you are wrong again? Maybe? Nah.
          I think it's beyond obvious that it hurts him currently, and hurts the nation overall. Can you offer any concrete arguments for how it helps him personally or anyone else? As for sanity... even White House insiders are leaking that he's going batshit crazy.
          See Georgia...
        • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
          BS44325 said:
          PJ_Soul said:
          BS44325 said:

          PJ_Soul said:
          my2hands said:
          When 7 military service personnel die in an accident... or in any way, frankly... I expect the POTUS to give a fucking statement. And not through Twitter like a 15 year old. Period. 
          I gotta agree with the first part...the POTUS needs to get in front of a camera on this.

          However, if used appropriately, I could see him sending a twitter message first.  It's just that he can't do that without being a 15 year old.
          I don't have an issue with the president, any president, utilizing social media for official statements. the way trump uses it though, it's as if twitter is the official information supplier of the white house. it just seems so.....nontraditional. unofficial. however you want to put it. 
          Times change.  Presidents used to use radio then TV. ;)

          So the question I have is, is trump cutting edge with his use of twitter....or am I just seeing his tweets more than Obama because of how stupid they are?

          Cause if he is using it more, he is changing the political landscape moving forward.  And it can be a very effective tool.  Now we just need someone who isn't a tool using it as president!!
          How he uses it is unprofessional, unethical, and an extension of his narcissism. I don't see it as cutting edge. 
          Let's cut out the bullshit. The way Trump uses Twitter, in his position, is fucking insane. Literally.
          It is very much sane. It is essentially how he won the Presidency over the Clinton money machine. I don't like it either but whether politically it currently does him more harm then good is the open question. You were all wrong before...maybe you are wrong again? Maybe? Nah.
          I think it's beyond obvious that it hurts him currently, and hurts the nation overall. Can you offer any concrete arguments for how it helps him personally or anyone else? As for sanity... even White House insiders are leaking that he's going batshit crazy.
          See Georgia...
          You talking about the seat that Republicans usually win by 20+ points but tonight it's a coin flip? You may want to rethink that.
        • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
          dignin said:
          BS44325 said:

          PJ_Soul said:
          my2hands said:
          When 7 military service personnel die in an accident... or in any way, frankly... I expect the POTUS to give a fucking statement. And not through Twitter like a 15 year old. Period. 
          I gotta agree with the first part...the POTUS needs to get in front of a camera on this.

          However, if used appropriately, I could see him sending a twitter message first.  It's just that he can't do that without being a 15 year old.
          I don't have an issue with the president, any president, utilizing social media for official statements. the way trump uses it though, it's as if twitter is the official information supplier of the white house. it just seems so.....nontraditional. unofficial. however you want to put it. 
          Times change.  Presidents used to use radio then TV. ;)

          So the question I have is, is trump cutting edge with his use of twitter....or am I just seeing his tweets more than Obama because of how stupid they are?

          Cause if he is using it more, he is changing the political landscape moving forward.  And it can be a very effective tool.  Now we just need someone who isn't a tool using it as president!!
          How he uses it is unprofessional, unethical, and an extension of his narcissism. I don't see it as cutting edge. 
          Let's cut out the bullshit. The way Trump uses Twitter, in his position, is fucking insane. Literally.
          It is very much sane. It is essentially how he won the Presidency over the Clinton money machine. I don't like it either but whether politically it currently does him more harm then good is the open question. You were all wrong before...maybe you are wrong again? Maybe? Nah.
          I don't see how that makes him sane. Every time he tweets something it almost always makes his job and the republicans job of getting shit done harder.
          It allows him to maintain his outsider persona while keeping his base energized. He ran against the republican party not with it. His crossover/previous Obama voters aren't interested in what makes a republican's life harder.
        • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,993
          dignin said:
          BS44325 said:
          PJ_Soul said:
          BS44325 said:

          PJ_Soul said:
          my2hands said:
          When 7 military service personnel die in an accident... or in any way, frankly... I expect the POTUS to give a fucking statement. And not through Twitter like a 15 year old. Period. 
          I gotta agree with the first part...the POTUS needs to get in front of a camera on this.

          However, if used appropriately, I could see him sending a twitter message first.  It's just that he can't do that without being a 15 year old.
          I don't have an issue with the president, any president, utilizing social media for official statements. the way trump uses it though, it's as if twitter is the official information supplier of the white house. it just seems so.....nontraditional. unofficial. however you want to put it. 
          Times change.  Presidents used to use radio then TV. ;)

          So the question I have is, is trump cutting edge with his use of twitter....or am I just seeing his tweets more than Obama because of how stupid they are?

          Cause if he is using it more, he is changing the political landscape moving forward.  And it can be a very effective tool.  Now we just need someone who isn't a tool using it as president!!
          How he uses it is unprofessional, unethical, and an extension of his narcissism. I don't see it as cutting edge. 
          Let's cut out the bullshit. The way Trump uses Twitter, in his position, is fucking insane. Literally.
          It is very much sane. It is essentially how he won the Presidency over the Clinton money machine. I don't like it either but whether politically it currently does him more harm then good is the open question. You were all wrong before...maybe you are wrong again? Maybe? Nah.
          I think it's beyond obvious that it hurts him currently, and hurts the nation overall. Can you offer any concrete arguments for how it helps him personally or anyone else? As for sanity... even White House insiders are leaking that he's going batshit crazy.
          See Georgia...
          You talking about the seat that Republicans usually win by 20+ points but tonight it's a coin flip? You may want to rethink that.
          Yea, the district that gave us Newt the Beaut should be going 70-30 or 80-20 for the repub but because of Trump, it's likely to end up 2-3%, maybe less. By November 2018, Trump will be untenable.
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        • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
          BS44325 said:
          dignin said:
          BS44325 said:

          PJ_Soul said:
          my2hands said:
          When 7 military service personnel die in an accident... or in any way, frankly... I expect the POTUS to give a fucking statement. And not through Twitter like a 15 year old. Period. 
          I gotta agree with the first part...the POTUS needs to get in front of a camera on this.

          However, if used appropriately, I could see him sending a twitter message first.  It's just that he can't do that without being a 15 year old.
          I don't have an issue with the president, any president, utilizing social media for official statements. the way trump uses it though, it's as if twitter is the official information supplier of the white house. it just seems so.....nontraditional. unofficial. however you want to put it. 
          Times change.  Presidents used to use radio then TV. ;)

          So the question I have is, is trump cutting edge with his use of twitter....or am I just seeing his tweets more than Obama because of how stupid they are?

          Cause if he is using it more, he is changing the political landscape moving forward.  And it can be a very effective tool.  Now we just need someone who isn't a tool using it as president!!
          How he uses it is unprofessional, unethical, and an extension of his narcissism. I don't see it as cutting edge. 
          Let's cut out the bullshit. The way Trump uses Twitter, in his position, is fucking insane. Literally.
          It is very much sane. It is essentially how he won the Presidency over the Clinton money machine. I don't like it either but whether politically it currently does him more harm then good is the open question. You were all wrong before...maybe you are wrong again? Maybe? Nah.
          I don't see how that makes him sane. Every time he tweets something it almost always makes his job and the republicans job of getting shit done harder.
          It allows him to maintain his outsider persona while keeping his base energized. He ran against the republican party not with it. His crossover/previous Obama voters aren't interested in what makes a republican's life harder.
          I get that part....but what is more important? Getting re-elected in 3.5 years or being an effective president? 
        • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
          dignin said:
          BS44325 said:
          PJ_Soul said:
          BS44325 said:

          PJ_Soul said:
          my2hands said:
          When 7 military service personnel die in an accident... or in any way, frankly... I expect the POTUS to give a fucking statement. And not through Twitter like a 15 year old. Period. 
          I gotta agree with the first part...the POTUS needs to get in front of a camera on this.

          However, if used appropriately, I could see him sending a twitter message first.  It's just that he can't do that without being a 15 year old.
          I don't have an issue with the president, any president, utilizing social media for official statements. the way trump uses it though, it's as if twitter is the official information supplier of the white house. it just seems so.....nontraditional. unofficial. however you want to put it. 
          Times change.  Presidents used to use radio then TV. ;)

          So the question I have is, is trump cutting edge with his use of twitter....or am I just seeing his tweets more than Obama because of how stupid they are?

          Cause if he is using it more, he is changing the political landscape moving forward.  And it can be a very effective tool.  Now we just need someone who isn't a tool using it as president!!
          How he uses it is unprofessional, unethical, and an extension of his narcissism. I don't see it as cutting edge. 
          Let's cut out the bullshit. The way Trump uses Twitter, in his position, is fucking insane. Literally.
          It is very much sane. It is essentially how he won the Presidency over the Clinton money machine. I don't like it either but whether politically it currently does him more harm then good is the open question. You were all wrong before...maybe you are wrong again? Maybe? Nah.
          I think it's beyond obvious that it hurts him currently, and hurts the nation overall. Can you offer any concrete arguments for how it helps him personally or anyone else? As for sanity... even White House insiders are leaking that he's going batshit crazy.
          See Georgia...
          You talking about the seat that Republicans usually win by 20+ points but tonight it's a coin flip? You may want to rethink that.
          Trump only won the district by one point...that is why the dems poured in all that money. It is early but currently Handel is outperforming Trump. If Trump is truly radioactive then this seat is one that the dems could win. It will be hard for the dems to duplicate this enthusiam/money. Also the GOP is turning out their vote and don't appear to be demoralized at all.
        • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
          dignin said:
          BS44325 said:
          dignin said:
          BS44325 said:

          PJ_Soul said:
          my2hands said:
          When 7 military service personnel die in an accident... or in any way, frankly... I expect the POTUS to give a fucking statement. And not through Twitter like a 15 year old. Period. 
          I gotta agree with the first part...the POTUS needs to get in front of a camera on this.

          However, if used appropriately, I could see him sending a twitter message first.  It's just that he can't do that without being a 15 year old.
          I don't have an issue with the president, any president, utilizing social media for official statements. the way trump uses it though, it's as if twitter is the official information supplier of the white house. it just seems so.....nontraditional. unofficial. however you want to put it. 
          Times change.  Presidents used to use radio then TV. ;)

          So the question I have is, is trump cutting edge with his use of twitter....or am I just seeing his tweets more than Obama because of how stupid they are?

          Cause if he is using it more, he is changing the political landscape moving forward.  And it can be a very effective tool.  Now we just need someone who isn't a tool using it as president!!
          How he uses it is unprofessional, unethical, and an extension of his narcissism. I don't see it as cutting edge. 
          Let's cut out the bullshit. The way Trump uses Twitter, in his position, is fucking insane. Literally.
          It is very much sane. It is essentially how he won the Presidency over the Clinton money machine. I don't like it either but whether politically it currently does him more harm then good is the open question. You were all wrong before...maybe you are wrong again? Maybe? Nah.
          I don't see how that makes him sane. Every time he tweets something it almost always makes his job and the republicans job of getting shit done harder.
          It allows him to maintain his outsider persona while keeping his base energized. He ran against the republican party not with it. His crossover/previous Obama voters aren't interested in what makes a republican's life harder.
          I get that part....but what is more important? Getting re-elected in 3.5 years or being an effective president? 
          He is being effective...just not in the way that you would like.

        • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
          BS44325 said:
          dignin said:
          BS44325 said:
          dignin said:
          BS44325 said:

          PJ_Soul said:
          my2hands said:
          When 7 military service personnel die in an accident... or in any way, frankly... I expect the POTUS to give a fucking statement. And not through Twitter like a 15 year old. Period. 
          I gotta agree with the first part...the POTUS needs to get in front of a camera on this.

          However, if used appropriately, I could see him sending a twitter message first.  It's just that he can't do that without being a 15 year old.
          I don't have an issue with the president, any president, utilizing social media for official statements. the way trump uses it though, it's as if twitter is the official information supplier of the white house. it just seems so.....nontraditional. unofficial. however you want to put it. 
          Times change.  Presidents used to use radio then TV. ;)

          So the question I have is, is trump cutting edge with his use of twitter....or am I just seeing his tweets more than Obama because of how stupid they are?

          Cause if he is using it more, he is changing the political landscape moving forward.  And it can be a very effective tool.  Now we just need someone who isn't a tool using it as president!!
          How he uses it is unprofessional, unethical, and an extension of his narcissism. I don't see it as cutting edge. 
          Let's cut out the bullshit. The way Trump uses Twitter, in his position, is fucking insane. Literally.
          It is very much sane. It is essentially how he won the Presidency over the Clinton money machine. I don't like it either but whether politically it currently does him more harm then good is the open question. You were all wrong before...maybe you are wrong again? Maybe? Nah.
          I don't see how that makes him sane. Every time he tweets something it almost always makes his job and the republicans job of getting shit done harder.
          It allows him to maintain his outsider persona while keeping his base energized. He ran against the republican party not with it. His crossover/previous Obama voters aren't interested in what makes a republican's life harder.
          I get that part....but what is more important? Getting re-elected in 3.5 years or being an effective president? 
          He is being effective...just not in the way that you would like.

          How is he being effective? By what measure?
        • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
          edited June 2017
          I love all these pro-military hawks supporting a rich guy who took 5 deferments during The Vietnam War... who doesn't personally comment when 7 sailors are killed... and grandstands in front of the wall commemorating fallen intelligence officers... and of course mocked a former POW... attacked a fallen soldiers family

          But I remember Obama not wearing a flag pin meant he was the kenyan anti-American anti-Christ

          Bravo, frauds.

          Did I forget to mention he was a life long "elite" Manhattan democrat.

          Bravo, suckers.
          Post edited by my2hands on
        • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
          dignin said:
          BS44325 said:
          dignin said:
          BS44325 said:
          dignin said:
          BS44325 said:

          PJ_Soul said:
          my2hands said:
          When 7 military service personnel die in an accident... or in any way, frankly... I expect the POTUS to give a fucking statement. And not through Twitter like a 15 year old. Period. 
          I gotta agree with the first part...the POTUS needs to get in front of a camera on this.

          However, if used appropriately, I could see him sending a twitter message first.  It's just that he can't do that without being a 15 year old.
          I don't have an issue with the president, any president, utilizing social media for official statements. the way trump uses it though, it's as if twitter is the official information supplier of the white house. it just seems so.....nontraditional. unofficial. however you want to put it. 
          Times change.  Presidents used to use radio then TV. ;)

          So the question I have is, is trump cutting edge with his use of twitter....or am I just seeing his tweets more than Obama because of how stupid they are?

          Cause if he is using it more, he is changing the political landscape moving forward.  And it can be a very effective tool.  Now we just need someone who isn't a tool using it as president!!
          How he uses it is unprofessional, unethical, and an extension of his narcissism. I don't see it as cutting edge. 
          Let's cut out the bullshit. The way Trump uses Twitter, in his position, is fucking insane. Literally.
          It is very much sane. It is essentially how he won the Presidency over the Clinton money machine. I don't like it either but whether politically it currently does him more harm then good is the open question. You were all wrong before...maybe you are wrong again? Maybe? Nah.
          I don't see how that makes him sane. Every time he tweets something it almost always makes his job and the republicans job of getting shit done harder.
          It allows him to maintain his outsider persona while keeping his base energized. He ran against the republican party not with it. His crossover/previous Obama voters aren't interested in what makes a republican's life harder.
          I get that part....but what is more important? Getting re-elected in 3.5 years or being an effective president? 
          He is being effective...just not in the way that you would like.

          How is he being effective? By what measure?
          Conservative judges, pulled out of TPP, pulled out of Paris, drastic reduction in illegal immigration, energy exploration, reduction in government regulations, obamacare repeal/replace a third of the way to completion, economy generally doing well, and on and on. Most things are moving in the right direction as promised to his voters. In their eyes he is being effective in delivering what was promised and more is to come.
        • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
          my2hands said:
          I love all these pro-military hawks supporting a rich guy who took 5 deferments during The Vietnam War... who doesn't personally comment when 7 sailors are killed... and grandstands in front of the wall commemorating fallen intelligence officers... 

          But I remember Obama not wearing a flag pin meant he was the kenyan anti-American anti-Christ

          Bravo, frauds.
          The pro-military hawks didn't support him.
        • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
          dignin said:
          BS44325 said:
          PJ_Soul said:
          BS44325 said:

          PJ_Soul said:
          my2hands said:
          When 7 military service personnel die in an accident... or in any way, frankly... I expect the POTUS to give a fucking statement. And not through Twitter like a 15 year old. Period. 
          I gotta agree with the first part...the POTUS needs to get in front of a camera on this.

          However, if used appropriately, I could see him sending a twitter message first.  It's just that he can't do that without being a 15 year old.
          I don't have an issue with the president, any president, utilizing social media for official statements. the way trump uses it though, it's as if twitter is the official information supplier of the white house. it just seems so.....nontraditional. unofficial. however you want to put it. 
          Times change.  Presidents used to use radio then TV. ;)

          So the question I have is, is trump cutting edge with his use of twitter....or am I just seeing his tweets more than Obama because of how stupid they are?

          Cause if he is using it more, he is changing the political landscape moving forward.  And it can be a very effective tool.  Now we just need someone who isn't a tool using it as president!!
          How he uses it is unprofessional, unethical, and an extension of his narcissism. I don't see it as cutting edge. 
          Let's cut out the bullshit. The way Trump uses Twitter, in his position, is fucking insane. Literally.
          It is very much sane. It is essentially how he won the Presidency over the Clinton money machine. I don't like it either but whether politically it currently does him more harm then good is the open question. You were all wrong before...maybe you are wrong again? Maybe? Nah.
          I think it's beyond obvious that it hurts him currently, and hurts the nation overall. Can you offer any concrete arguments for how it helps him personally or anyone else? As for sanity... even White House insiders are leaking that he's going batshit crazy.
          See Georgia...
          You talking about the seat that Republicans usually win by 20+ points but tonight it's a coin flip? You may want to rethink that.
          Yea, the district that gave us Newt the Beaut should be going 70-30 or 80-20 for the repub but because of Trump, it's likely to end up 2-3%, maybe less. By November 2018, Trump will be untenable.
          Yeah. Sure looks that way. 
        • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
          Russia strikes again. 
        • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
          BS44325 said:
          dignin said:
          BS44325 said:
          PJ_Soul said:
          BS44325 said:

          PJ_Soul said:
          my2hands said:
          When 7 military service personnel die in an accident... or in any way, frankly... I expect the POTUS to give a fucking statement. And not through Twitter like a 15 year old. Period. 
          I gotta agree with the first part...the POTUS needs to get in front of a camera on this.

          However, if used appropriately, I could see him sending a twitter message first.  It's just that he can't do that without being a 15 year old.
          I don't have an issue with the president, any president, utilizing social media for official statements. the way trump uses it though, it's as if twitter is the official information supplier of the white house. it just seems so.....nontraditional. unofficial. however you want to put it. 
          Times change.  Presidents used to use radio then TV. ;)

          So the question I have is, is trump cutting edge with his use of twitter....or am I just seeing his tweets more than Obama because of how stupid they are?

          Cause if he is using it more, he is changing the political landscape moving forward.  And it can be a very effective tool.  Now we just need someone who isn't a tool using it as president!!
          How he uses it is unprofessional, unethical, and an extension of his narcissism. I don't see it as cutting edge. 
          Let's cut out the bullshit. The way Trump uses Twitter, in his position, is fucking insane. Literally.
          It is very much sane. It is essentially how he won the Presidency over the Clinton money machine. I don't like it either but whether politically it currently does him more harm then good is the open question. You were all wrong before...maybe you are wrong again? Maybe? Nah.
          I think it's beyond obvious that it hurts him currently, and hurts the nation overall. Can you offer any concrete arguments for how it helps him personally or anyone else? As for sanity... even White House insiders are leaking that he's going batshit crazy.
          See Georgia...
          You talking about the seat that Republicans usually win by 20+ points but tonight it's a coin flip? You may want to rethink that.
          Trump only won the district by one point...that is why the dems poured in all that money. It is early but currently Handel is outperforming Trump. If Trump is truly radioactive then this seat is one that the dems could win. It will be hard for the dems to duplicate this enthusiam/money. Also the GOP is turning out their vote and don't appear to be demoralized at all.
          But Price won by 23 points, and Handel has only narrowly squeaked in. She should have won this very conservative district handily, but instead she was close to losing. Trump and the Repubs will cast this as a win for them, but it shows a real and measurable decline in support.
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        • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,078
          BS44325 said:
          dignin said:
          BS44325 said:
          dignin said:
          BS44325 said:
          dignin said:
          BS44325 said:

          PJ_Soul said:
          my2hands said:
          When 7 military service personnel die in an accident... or in any way, frankly... I expect the POTUS to give a fucking statement. And not through Twitter like a 15 year old. Period. 
          I gotta agree with the first part...the POTUS needs to get in front of a camera on this.

          However, if used appropriately, I could see him sending a twitter message first.  It's just that he can't do that without being a 15 year old.
          I don't have an issue with the president, any president, utilizing social media for official statements. the way trump uses it though, it's as if twitter is the official information supplier of the white house. it just seems so.....nontraditional. unofficial. however you want to put it. 
          Times change.  Presidents used to use radio then TV. ;)

          So the question I have is, is trump cutting edge with his use of twitter....or am I just seeing his tweets more than Obama because of how stupid they are?

          Cause if he is using it more, he is changing the political landscape moving forward.  And it can be a very effective tool.  Now we just need someone who isn't a tool using it as president!!
          How he uses it is unprofessional, unethical, and an extension of his narcissism. I don't see it as cutting edge. 
          Let's cut out the bullshit. The way Trump uses Twitter, in his position, is fucking insane. Literally.
          It is very much sane. It is essentially how he won the Presidency over the Clinton money machine. I don't like it either but whether politically it currently does him more harm then good is the open question. You were all wrong before...maybe you are wrong again? Maybe? Nah.
          I don't see how that makes him sane. Every time he tweets something it almost always makes his job and the republicans job of getting shit done harder.
          It allows him to maintain his outsider persona while keeping his base energized. He ran against the republican party not with it. His crossover/previous Obama voters aren't interested in what makes a republican's life harder.
          I get that part....but what is more important? Getting re-elected in 3.5 years or being an effective president? 
          He is being effective...just not in the way that you would like.

          How is he being effective? By what measure?
          Conservative judges, pulled out of TPP, pulled out of Paris, drastic reduction in illegal immigration, energy exploration, reduction in government regulations, obamacare repeal/replace a third of the way to completion, economy generally doing well, and on and on. Most things are moving in the right direction as promised to his voters. In their eyes he is being effective in delivering what was promised and more is to come.
          The first three things you listed are the only campaign promises he's followed through on so far.


        • To this day I just can not wrap my head around that President Trump won with less votes.
          It must be hard for non-President Trump supporters to grasp that. 
        • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
          BS44325 said:
          dignin said:
          BS44325 said:
          PJ_Soul said:
          BS44325 said:

          PJ_Soul said:
          my2hands said:
          When 7 military service personnel die in an accident... or in any way, frankly... I expect the POTUS to give a fucking statement. And not through Twitter like a 15 year old. Period. 
          I gotta agree with the first part...the POTUS needs to get in front of a camera on this.

          However, if used appropriately, I could see him sending a twitter message first.  It's just that he can't do that without being a 15 year old.
          I don't have an issue with the president, any president, utilizing social media for official statements. the way trump uses it though, it's as if twitter is the official information supplier of the white house. it just seems so.....nontraditional. unofficial. however you want to put it. 
          Times change.  Presidents used to use radio then TV. ;)

          So the question I have is, is trump cutting edge with his use of twitter....or am I just seeing his tweets more than Obama because of how stupid they are?

          Cause if he is using it more, he is changing the political landscape moving forward.  And it can be a very effective tool.  Now we just need someone who isn't a tool using it as president!!
          How he uses it is unprofessional, unethical, and an extension of his narcissism. I don't see it as cutting edge. 
          Let's cut out the bullshit. The way Trump uses Twitter, in his position, is fucking insane. Literally.
          It is very much sane. It is essentially how he won the Presidency over the Clinton money machine. I don't like it either but whether politically it currently does him more harm then good is the open question. You were all wrong before...maybe you are wrong again? Maybe? Nah.
          I think it's beyond obvious that it hurts him currently, and hurts the nation overall. Can you offer any concrete arguments for how it helps him personally or anyone else? As for sanity... even White House insiders are leaking that he's going batshit crazy.
          See Georgia...
          You talking about the seat that Republicans usually win by 20+ points but tonight it's a coin flip? You may want to rethink that.
          Trump only won the district by one point...that is why the dems poured in all that money. It is early but currently Handel is outperforming Trump. If Trump is truly radioactive then this seat is one that the dems could win. It will be hard for the dems to duplicate this enthusiam/money. Also the GOP is turning out their vote and don't appear to be demoralized at all.
          But Price won by 23 points, and Handel has only narrowly squeaked in. She should have won this very conservative district handily, but instead she was close to losing. Trump and the Repubs will cast this as a win for them, but it shows a real and measurable decline in support.
          The race was nationalized as proven by all the outside money. It was a Trump +1 district and it absolutely a win because a loss would have neen a disaster. Next time around Handel will have full name recognition and will have proven that she can turn out the base when necessary.
        • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
          CM189191 said:
          Russia strikes again. 
          On the same day Trump met with the Ukranians no less. 
        • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
          To this day I just can not wrap my head around that President Trump won with less votes.
          It must be hard for non-President Trump supporters to grasp that. 

          No, just you.
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