The Trumps are the first family of America...and always will be.
Is this satire?
I really think this is possible. Trump is probably going to win in 2020. After that he'll be even more brash. It's pretty clear the GOP would rather win than do what's right. Yes...I would not be surprised if some day we have President Trump appointed, rather than elected. It can happen here.
If you told me that Trump was going to win in 2020 but no other Trump would ever be President, I'd take it. Six more years of this shit? Ugh. But I think 30 more years (for his three eldest) and even more is possible.
None of those kids have the charismatic narcissism to get elected, imo. If you believe this is the end I'd the democracy and he appoints them, that's a different discussion.
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The Trumps are the first family of America...and always will be.
Is this satire?
I really think this is possible. Trump is probably going to win in 2020. After that he'll be even more brash. It's pretty clear the GOP would rather win than do what's right. Yes...I would not be surprised if some day we have President Trump appointed, rather than elected. It can happen here.
If you told me that Trump was going to win in 2020 but no other Trump would ever be President, I'd take it. Six more years of this shit? Ugh. But I think 30 more years (for his three eldest) and even more is possible.
None of those kids have the charismatic narcissism to get elected, imo. If you believe this is the end I'd the democracy and he appoints them, that's a different discussion.
Trump, Jr. is exactly like his father. And the TrumpWagon is so entrenched that it's kind of hard to totally dismiss...
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So if there are no impeachment proceedings after learning these findings, what does it say about our rule of law, about what a future president can do and get away with? If nothing is done, this is the level at which the bar is set, isn't it?
So if there are no impeachment proceedings after learning these findings, what does it say about our rule of law, about what a future president can do and get away with? If nothing is done, this is the level at which the bar is set, isn't it?
why would you try to impeach when the findings are inconclusive, legally speaking?
So if there are no impeachment proceedings after learning these findings, what does it say about our rule of law, about what a future president can do and get away with? If nothing is done, this is the level at which the bar is set, isn't it?
why would you try to impeach when the findings are inconclusive, legally speaking?
Impeachment is not a legal action; it's a political action. Something has to be done or this sets a bar for the country...a very sad bar. :(
So if there are no impeachment proceedings after learning these findings, what does it say about our rule of law, about what a future president can do and get away with? If nothing is done, this is the level at which the bar is set, isn't it?
why would you try to impeach when the findings are inconclusive, legally speaking?
Team Mueller punted to Congress on the obstruction charge because Team Mueller followed DOJ policy regarding indicting a sitting president. 14 ongoing criminal investigations. This is only going to get worse.
So if there are no impeachment proceedings after learning these findings, what does it say about our rule of law, about what a future president can do and get away with? If nothing is done, this is the level at which the bar is set, isn't it?
why would you try to impeach when the findings are inconclusive, legally speaking?
Team Mueller punted to Congress on the obstruction charge because Team Mueller followed DOJ policy regarding indicting a sitting president. 14 ongoing criminal investigations. This is only going to get worse.
Unless you really believe you have the votes in the Senate, you can't push ahead unfortunately.
So if there are no impeachment proceedings after learning these findings, what does it say about our rule of law, about what a future president can do and get away with? If nothing is done, this is the level at which the bar is set, isn't it?
why would you try to impeach when the findings are inconclusive, legally speaking?
Impeachment is not a legal action; it's a political action. Something has to be done or this sets a bar for the country...a very sad bar. :(
I know, but what basis is there for impeachment at this point? the attempted obstruction? and if you don't have the votes, there's no point in trying.
So if there are no impeachment proceedings after learning these findings, what does it say about our rule of law, about what a future president can do and get away with? If nothing is done, this is the level at which the bar is set, isn't it?
why would you try to impeach when the findings are inconclusive, legally speaking?
Team Mueller punted to Congress on the obstruction charge because Team Mueller followed DOJ policy regarding indicting a sitting president. 14 ongoing criminal investigations. This is only going to get worse.
Unless you really believe you have the votes in the Senate, you can't push ahead unfortunately.
That's what House impeachment hearings are for. Determining there's enough evidence to impeach and hold a trial. The trial in the senate is to convince 67 senators to convict. Just need to flip 20, whether by election or preponderence of the evidence. The redactions, particularly those of the intellignece variety, may very well be enough to do it, if it goes that far. 14 ongoing investigations, 12 of which are redacted to protect their integrity. Its going to be ugly
So that’s it he’s all cleared he never tried to thwart the investigation never did one wrong thing in fact he’s the most honest president ever ! Who here believes this raise your hand ..
Speaking during a panel discussion, Toobin quoted a finding from a section of special counsel Robert Mueller's report that found that Congress could investigate the president for any "corrupt exercise" of power to be a sign that Mueller's team had opened the door for Congress to pursue obstruction investigations against Trump.
"The conclusion that Congress may apply the obstruction laws to the President's corrupt exercise of the powers of office accords with our constitutional system of checks and balances and the principle that no person is above the law," reads the line from Mueller's report quoted by Toobin.
"There's a sentence here that is all but an explicit invitation for Congress to impeach the president," Toobin argued, referring to line from Mueller's report. "I just think this sentence is enormously important."
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I think one of the issues with impeachment is that the left knows impeachment isn't a possibility right now with the Senate. Impeachment proceedings may just rev up Trump's base and hurt the Dems in the next election. Pelosi would be made the scapegoat again that Republicans fear for some reason and more Republicans come out to vote against Pelosi even though she isn't running.
So if there are no impeachment proceedings after learning these findings, what does it say about our rule of law, about what a future president can do and get away with? If nothing is done, this is the level at which the bar is set, isn't it?
why would you try to impeach when the findings are inconclusive, legally speaking?
Team Mueller punted to Congress on the obstruction charge because Team Mueller followed DOJ policy regarding indicting a sitting president. 14 ongoing criminal investigations. This is only going to get worse.
You keep saying this but nothing seems to get worse for the President. I hope Trump goes to jail but at this rate it will be long after he ends his term as President.
One of the problems with this obstruction and impeachment is that no one expected better from Trump. The Republicans knew they "hired" a person without a soul so why would they fire a person for acting like they have no soul? If I get a dog whose breed is known to chew on shoes, I'm not going to get rid of it when it chews on shoes. I knew that going into it.
the bigger story is that Trump TRIED to obstruct justice, but only didn't because those he asked to carry out his bidding refused to do so, knowing full well it was illegal.
In law, efforts like this are also criminal. Thus, we get charged of attempted murder; we don’t say “the victim didn’t die so it’s all okay”. People get charged with attempting to break the law all the time. It’s not like they should be rewarded for incompetency.
so if mueller believes trump tried to obstruct justice, does that mean he'll be charged after leaving office?
Depends on the prosecutor, but the short answer is yes, he could be, and Mueller laid the groundwork.
So if there are no impeachment proceedings after learning these findings, what does it say about our rule of law, about what a future president can do and get away with? If nothing is done, this is the level at which the bar is set, isn't it?
why would you try to impeach when the findings are inconclusive, legally speaking?
Team Mueller punted to Congress on the obstruction charge because Team Mueller followed DOJ policy regarding indicting a sitting president. 14 ongoing criminal investigations. This is only going to get worse.
Unless you really believe you have the votes in the Senate, you can't push ahead unfortunately.
That's what House impeachment hearings are for. Determining there's enough evidence to impeach and hold a trial. The trial in the senate is to convince 67 senators to convict. Just need to flip 20, whether by election or preponderence of the evidence. The redactions, particularly those of the intellignece variety, may very well be enough to do it, if it goes that far. 14 ongoing investigations, 12 of which are redacted to protect their integrity. Its going to be ugly
I understand the design but it's not the reality. The house, through the committees, can make all the relevant evidence known, and then the Senate can be whipped. If you can't whip the votes, don't start the process.
So if there are no impeachment proceedings after learning these findings, what does it say about our rule of law, about what a future president can do and get away with? If nothing is done, this is the level at which the bar is set, isn't it?
why would you try to impeach when the findings are inconclusive, legally speaking?
Team Mueller punted to Congress on the obstruction charge because Team Mueller followed DOJ policy regarding indicting a sitting president. 14 ongoing criminal investigations. This is only going to get worse.
You keep saying this but nothing seems to get worse for the President. I hope Trump goes to jail but at this rate it will be long after he ends his term as President.
One of the problems with this obstruction and impeachment is that no one expected better from Trump. The Republicans knew they "hired" a person without a soul so why would they fire a person for acting like they have no soul? If I get a dog whose breed is known to chew on shoes, I'm not going to get rid of it when it chews on shoes. I knew that going into it.
So if there are no impeachment proceedings after learning these findings, what does it say about our rule of law, about what a future president can do and get away with? If nothing is done, this is the level at which the bar is set, isn't it?
why would you try to impeach when the findings are inconclusive, legally speaking?
Team Mueller punted to Congress on the obstruction charge because Team Mueller followed DOJ policy regarding indicting a sitting president. 14 ongoing criminal investigations. This is only going to get worse.
You keep saying this but nothing seems to get worse for the President. I hope Trump goes to jail but at this rate it will be long after he ends his term as President.
One of the problems with this obstruction and impeachment is that no one expected better from Trump. The Republicans knew they "hired" a person without a soul so why would they fire a person for acting like they have no soul? If I get a dog whose breed is known to chew on shoes, I'm not going to get rid of it when it chews on shoes. I knew that going into it.
Get worse? There’s going to be further hill investigory hearings that will likely lead to an impeachment vote. If Team Trump Treason isn’t disgraced like Nixon, he’s at least disgraced as much as or more than Bill Clinton, something that never happened to Obama. I’m not sure his fragile ego couldn’t handle it. He might nuke Nancy’s district.
Sorry, but I don’t equate buying a shoe chewing dog with voters knowingly voting for a candidate that would violate the law during the campaign and while in office and be under 14 separate investigations as a result. The process is slow and deliberate as it should be. Remember Benghazi? Now, that was a witch hunt.
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Sure sign of Team Trump Treason's guilt. No "Fully exonorated?" No, "Witch hunt?" No, "14 Angry Democrats?" No, "Crooked Hillary?"
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CNN's Toobin: Mueller's findings on obstruction 'all but an explicit invitation to Congress'
Speaking during a panel discussion, Toobin quoted a finding from a section of special counsel Robert Mueller's report that found that Congress could investigate the president for any "corrupt exercise" of power to be a sign that Mueller's team had opened the door for Congress to pursue obstruction investigations against Trump.
"The conclusion that Congress may apply the obstruction laws to the President's corrupt exercise of the powers of office accords with our constitutional system of checks and balances and the principle that no person is above the law," reads the line from Mueller's report quoted by Toobin.
"There's a sentence here that is all but an explicit invitation for Congress to impeach the president," Toobin argued, referring to line from Mueller's report. "I just think this sentence is enormously important."
I think one of the issues with impeachment is that the left knows impeachment isn't a possibility right now with the Senate. Impeachment proceedings may just rev up Trump's base and hurt the Dems in the next election. Pelosi would be made the scapegoat again that Republicans fear for some reason and more Republicans come out to vote against Pelosi even though she isn't running.
You keep saying this but nothing seems to get worse for the President. I hope Trump goes to jail but at this rate it will be long after he ends his term as President.
One of the problems with this obstruction and impeachment is that no one expected better from Trump. The Republicans knew they "hired" a person without a soul so why would they fire a person for acting like they have no soul? If I get a dog whose breed is known to chew on shoes, I'm not going to get rid of it when it chews on shoes. I knew that going into it.
Mueller Left Open the Door to Charging Trump After He Left Office
https://nyti.ms/2GuzVFR
Sorry, but I don’t equate buying a shoe chewing dog with voters knowingly voting for a candidate that would violate the law during the campaign and while in office and be under 14 separate investigations as a result. The process is slow and deliberate as it should be. Remember Benghazi? Now, that was a witch hunt.
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years of made up bullshit you’d stop but you just keep on looking like a crazy guy on the corner screaming at traffic.
This shit’s done. The only thing that’s about to get ugly is Barr when he starts bringing down the hammer on those who started this whole joke.