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Looks like PEARL JAM supports universal health are which would make them socialists....
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The damage control for Trump in this thread is cringeworthy. I am usually open to listen to all sides of an argument but man is this tough to watch people defend Trump on this one. Almost feel bad for them.0
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PJNB said:The damage control for Trump in this thread is cringeworthy. I am usually open to listen to all sides of an argument but man is this tough to watch people defend Trump on this one. Almost feel bad for them.
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After seeing the outcome of the meeting on the news and online this morning all I can say is wow.Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/20140
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Go Beavers said:BS44325 said:Go Beavers said:BS44325 said:brianlux said:BS44325 said:brianlux said:A fine lyric of advice for our Trump supporters."Mutiny in Jonestown"by MinutemenPavarotti, take one
Cast off!
Me in these ropes?
I'm one knot
Tangled in the heap
I know it's paradox
With my dreams
I know it's paradox
With my dreams
Ship's creaking
Taking on bullshit
I fucking scream:
Jump ship!Jump ship!You are comparing Democratic Socialism to Russia?Jump ship, baby, jump ship!
Now the question is collectively what should we all do about it? I think we all agree regime change is out of the question but certainly we should consider
1) Sanctions on Russian businesses and members of the regime
2) Confronting them militarily in places like Syria, Ukraine and elsewhere
3) Ramping up domestic oil and gas production and forcing countries like Germany to abandon Russian energy deals
4) Increase member funding of NATO
All seem like good ideas.
We just need a President to push for these0 -
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1) Sanctions on Russian businesses and members of the regime Impeach Trump
2) Confronting them militarily in places like Syria, Ukraine and elsewhere Impeach Trump
3) Ramping up domestic oil and gas production and forcing countries like Germany to abandon Russian energy deals Impeach Trump
4) Increase member funding of NATO Impeach Trump
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BS44325 said:brianlux said:BS44325 said:brianlux said:BS44325 said:brianlux said:A fine lyric of advice for our Trump supporters."Mutiny in Jonestown"by MinutemenPavarotti, take one
Cast off!
Me in these ropes?
I'm one knot
Tangled in the heap
I know it's paradox
With my dreams
I know it's paradox
With my dreams
Ship's creaking
Taking on bullshit
I fucking scream:
Jump ship!Jump ship!You are comparing Democratic Socialism to Russia?Jump ship, baby, jump ship!Classic stuff there, BS. Reminds me of being a kid back in the 50's again with the whole red scare thing again.I'm sure by now you have read at least a few of the posts here on AMT that show how very different Democratic Socialism is from communism, right? And even if you are a fan of Trumps concept of capitalism, you know it's headed for epic fail, right? Come on man, you don't want to be associated with that kind of nonsense.
You are on to tackling Step 1. There is no sign of fixing step 2. No chance of fixing step 3.
The epic fail will happen. It won’t be pretty. But it won’t be due to capitalism. It will be due to the debt bomb brought on by your every wish."Growth is the ideology of the cancer cell."-Edward Abbey"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
TODAY!? Worse than Charlottesville for Trump?0
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Halifax2TheMax said:vaggar99 said:
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vaggar99 said:^^^^^^
1) Sanctions on Russian businesses and members of the regime Impeach Trump
2) Confronting them militarily in places like Syria, Ukraine and elsewhere Impeach Trump
3) Ramping up domestic oil and gas production and forcing countries like Germany to abandon Russian energy deals Impeach Trump
4) Increase member funding of NATO Impeach Trump
This is exactly the problem. You all only care about Russia as far as it pertains to Trump. Impeach Trump and the Russia problem that has existed for years goes away. Obama ignored it. You all ignored it. Get rid of Trump and you can go back to ignoring it. You just aren’t serious.
This is why we had such an idiotic press conference today. Trump doesn’t believe you are interested in “Russia”. He thinks you just want to impeach and unfortunately he is not wrong. There was an indictment the other day that even though none of us will ever see the evidence behind I believed to be honest and fair. It discussed Russian meddling. It said no Americans knowingly participated. It said the outcome wasn’t changed because of it. Yet even with these clear statements none of you can let go. “Trump colluded!” “The dossier is real!” “The election was stolen!” “He must be impeached!”.
Trump hears this. He thinks this sentiment exists not just among you but by the entire democratic party, by a good portion of the republican party, and a large part of the DC bureaucracies including the FBI. He trusts none of them and none of you. Combine that with him being a thin skinned jerk and that is why you get the press conference we had today.
I want real solutions on Russia. You want impeachment. I am unlikely to get what I want because of what you want.
And we will all suffer.Post edited by BS44325 on0 -
BS44325 said:Go Beavers said:BS44325 said:Go Beavers said:BS44325 said:brianlux said:BS44325 said:brianlux said:A fine lyric of advice for our Trump supporters."Mutiny in Jonestown"by MinutemenPavarotti, take one
Cast off!
Me in these ropes?
I'm one knot
Tangled in the heap
I know it's paradox
With my dreams
I know it's paradox
With my dreams
Ship's creaking
Taking on bullshit
I fucking scream:
Jump ship!Jump ship!You are comparing Democratic Socialism to Russia?Jump ship, baby, jump ship!
Now the question is collectively what should we all do about it? I think we all agree regime change is out of the question but certainly we should consider
1) Sanctions on Russian businesses and members of the regime
2) Confronting them militarily in places like Syria, Ukraine and elsewhere
3) Ramping up domestic oil and gas production and forcing countries like Germany to abandon Russian energy deals
4) Increase member funding of NATO
All seem like good ideas.
We just need a President to push for these
Thankfully we have a congress who forced the president's hand in actually pushing sanctions forward after he stalled for a good 8 months or so. Wonder why the delay.Syria...haaaa......the airport we bombed last year was operational again in days. Had no choice but to use force this year. But then he never issued the new sanctions against Russia for its role even after Nikki Haley promised they would. I wonder what changed.
No country formally agreed to any of Trump's claims. The plan all along has been to go to 2% by 2024, since Obama pushed for it in 2014. Wonder why Trump lied.
And, if I may, I believe the outrage today stems more from the president siding with Putin over his own intelligence agencies regarding an attack on our election 2 years ago. There was no need for this "summit." The world saw how unprepared he was. There's no defending what happened today.
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BS44325 said:vaggar99 said:^^^^^^
1) Sanctions on Russian businesses and members of the regime Impeach Trump
2) Confronting them militarily in places like Syria, Ukraine and elsewhere Impeach Trump
3) Ramping up domestic oil and gas production and forcing countries like Germany to abandon Russian energy deals Impeach Trump
4) Increase member funding of NATO Impeach Trump
This is exactly the problem. You all only care about Russia as far as it pertains to Trump. Impeach Trump and the Russia problem that has existed for years goes away. Obama ignored it. You all ignored it. Get rid of Trump and you can go back to ignoring it. You just aren’t serious.
This is why we had such an idiotic press conference today. Trump doesn’t believe you are interested in “Russia”. He thinks you just want to impeach and unfortunately he is not wrong. There was an indictment the other day that even though none of us will ever see the evidence behind I believed to be honest and fair. It discussed Russian meddling. It said no Americans knowingly participated. It said the outcome wasn’t changed because of it. Yet even with these clear statements none of you can let go. “Trump colluded!” “The dossier is real!” “The election was stolen!” “He must be impeached!”.
Trump hears this. He thinks this sentiment exists not just among you but by the entire democratic party, by a good portion of the republican party, and a large part of the DC bureaucracies including the FBI. He trusts none of them and none of you. Combine that with him being a thin skinned jerk and that is why you get the press conference we had today.
I want real solutions on Russia. You want impeachment. I am unlikely to get what I want because of what you want.
And we will all suffer.0 -
BS44325 said:vaggar99 said:^^^^^^
1) Sanctions on Russian businesses and members of the regime Impeach Trump
2) Confronting them militarily in places like Syria, Ukraine and elsewhere Impeach Trump
3) Ramping up domestic oil and gas production and forcing countries like Germany to abandon Russian energy deals Impeach Trump
4) Increase member funding of NATO Impeach Trump
This is exactly the problem. You all only care about Russia as far as it pertains to Trump. Impeach Trump and the Russia problem that has existed for years goes away. Obama ignored it. You all ignored it. Get rid of Trump and you can go back to ignoring it. You just aren’t serious.
This is why we had such an idiotic press conference today. Trump doesn’t believe you are interested in “Russia”. He thinks you just want to impeach and unfortunately he is not wrong. There was an indictment the other day that even though none of us will ever see the evidence behind I believed to be honest and fair. It discussed Russian meddling. It said no Americans knowingly participated. It said the outcome wasn’t changed because of it. Yet even with these clear statements none of you can let go. “Trump colluded!” “The dossier is real!” “The election was stolen!” “He must be impeached!”.
Trump hears this. He thinks this sentiment exists not just among you but by the entire democratic party, by a good portion of the republican party, and a large part of the DC bureaucracies including the FBI. He trusts none of them and none of you. Combine that with him being a thin skinned jerk and that is why you get the press conference we had today.
I want real solutions on Russia. You want impeachment. I am unlikely to get what I want because of what you want.
And we will all suffer.0 -
Smellyman said:vaggar99 said:TODAY!? Worse than Charlottesville for Trump?
A few years ago the AMT was all like “the president and intelligence agencies lied us into war” and now it’s all like “the president isn’t listening to the intelligence agencies and taking us to war”.
my head is spin. ing.0
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