Did Brendan O'Brien destroy Pearl Jam's Analog Master tapes?

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  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    buck502000 said:

    I always thought this video to be rather telling.....

    https://youtu.be/8DcGkU13BNc?t=2m3s

    That is just Ed pimping his buddies product.
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,306
    I am very lucky I am not picky with hearing the last 2% of the sound I am supposedly missing.
  • CantKeepmedown
    CantKeepmedown Portland, Maine Posts: 3,127
    I honestly can't tell the difference between CD's, vinyl, mp3's, flac, wav.....ect. The only difference my ear picks up is whether or not something was soundboard recorded or audience. I don't know if I'm lucky or missing out.

    Just turn it up so I can hear it.
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    buck502000 said:

    I always thought this video to be rather telling.....

    https://youtu.be/8DcGkU13BNc?t=2m3s

    Which brings me back to asking why people pay so much for PJ vinyl? It's just brickwalled cd's pressed on wax. Period.

    What a shame
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Smellyman said:

    buck502000 said:

    I always thought this video to be rather telling.....

    https://youtu.be/8DcGkU13BNc?t=2m3s

    That is just Ed pimping his buddies product.
    No, that's eddie telling the truth
  • MedozK
    MedozK Tennessee Posts: 9,212
    my2hands said:

    Which brings me back to asking why people pay so much for PJ vinyl? It's just brickwalled cd's pressed on wax. Period.

    What a shame

    Yea, if you have a high-end rig, your not reaching for any PJ albums when showing of your system, Not even Binaural.

  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Benaroya Hall vinyl goes for $Thousands$ and it's just the cd pressed onto wax. That's it. You are literally paying $1,000 for a $9 cd.
  • buck502000
    buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    MedozK said:

    my2hands said:

    Which brings me back to asking why people pay so much for PJ vinyl? It's just brickwalled cd's pressed on wax. Period.

    What a shame

    Yea, if you have a high-end rig, your not reaching for any PJ albums when showing of your system, Not even Binaural.

    I've always dais it's hard being an audiophile and a Pearl Jam Fan
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    edited March 2017
    MedozK said:

    my2hands said:

    Which brings me back to asking why people pay so much for PJ vinyl? It's just brickwalled cd's pressed on wax. Period.

    What a shame

    Yea, if you have a high-end rig, your not reaching for any PJ albums when showing of your system, Not even Binaural.

    I had a very low-end rig and the difference between my PJ vinyl and other vinyl (created and sourced correctly) was easily noticeable

    even shitty bootleg PJ LP's of terrible pressings like Avocado going for $hundreds, let alone the original pressings and what they sell for

    I feel bad because I feel like a lot of Pearl Jam fans are continuing to be taken advantage of in the vinyl world and are just flat out wasting money
  • buck502000
    buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    Binaural sound pretty damn good on my rig. Glad BoB didn't get his grubby mitts on that one ;)
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,423
    edited March 2017
    I think the Vaults are the best sounding vinyl PJ has put out. I also think PJ wax doesn't sound any better or worse than most vinyl that's put out today (that aren't $50 audiophile pressings). as I've upgraded systems over the years, I've found that most vinyl made after 1990 sounds pretty meh. Something to be said about avoiding audiophilia.
    Post edited by Tim Simmons on
  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    edited March 2017
    Really? I do my homework, but I feel like most new and reissue stuff I purchase is consistently better than PJ's output in every way, except maybe packaging.
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,423
    Eh, maybe I'm being a bit hyperbolic, but I find myself continually disappointed by new pressings. And when you hear a great pressing like a Music Matters Jazz pressing or Analogue recordings reissue, its night and day. I guess what I should have said most new pressings are passable as opposed to sounding great and I just don't think PJ wax is particularly terrible. I guess the bad rap probably has more to do with the general mastering of the last 3 studio LPs. I guess Ten and Vitalogy reissues weren't great either. But original pressings and other newer releases (including No Code and Yield reissues) have been standard.
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,423
    I will concede their stuff isn't audiophile level. But most records aren't.
  • buck502000
    buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    I just sucks to think PJ couldn't do MOFI stuff even if they wanted to. Weezer did.....
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,423
    I don't think they need to do mofi, just get the non-destroyed analog tapes to Chris Bellman to master/cut, and press them on 180g at QRP/Pallas/RTI and charge $50.
  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    So you've got confirmation that Obrien did actually trash the masters? And that when doing so skipped making a high resolution digital copy?
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,423
    I was making a joke to bring the thread full circle.
  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    I was responding to Buck.

    Hell, just putting a QRP or RTI sticker on the gatefold would go a long way. Confirmation bias is real!!
  • buck502000
    buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    Tim Simmons said:

    I don't think they need to do mofi, just get the non-destroyed analog tapes to Chris Bellman to master/cut, and press them on 180g at QRP/Pallas/RTI and charge $50.

    I'd be ok with that

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