Nothing as it seems

Only 13 times since 2006? Hard to believe, really. Sure would love to see this one live some day. One of the greats in my opinion.
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  • MedozKMedozK TennesseePosts: 7,123
    Twice in Memphis 2000 and 2014
  • PJNBPJNB New BrunswickPosts: 4,573
    One of my favourite songs too. Lucky to hear it three times in my first six shows starting in 2013. Crazy how stats like that happen sometimes.
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 18,624
    worst single for an album ever.
    I realize mike does some sick shit during this song but mike does a lot of sick shit during many songs. pretty boring song imo.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Dr. DelightDr. Delight Posts: 11,150
    MedozK said:

    Twice in Memphis 2000 and 2014

    I was at the 2014 show and completely forgot that they played it.
    And so you see, I have come to doubt
    All that I once held as true
    I stand alone without beliefs
    The only truth I know is you.
  • MedozKMedozK TennesseePosts: 7,123
    mcgruff10 said:

    worst single for an album ever.
    I realize mike does some sick shit during this song but mike does a lot of sick shit during many songs. pretty boring song imo.

    :o
  • JammalamboJammalambo Posts: 1,163
    mcgruff10 said:

    worst single for an album ever.
    I realize mike does some sick shit during this song but mike does a lot of sick shit during many songs. pretty boring song imo.

    The first six words of your post are wrong on so many levels
  • MedozK said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    worst single for an album ever.
    I realize mike does some sick shit during this song but mike does a lot of sick shit during many songs. pretty boring song imo.

    :o
    I have to agree on this.
    NAIS was great back in the heyday.
    Now not so much.
    It is too junkie.
    Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not. Both ideas are overwhelming. AE
  • shetellsherselfshetellsherself New JerseyPosts: 8,396
    I love this song. Love. For real.
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  • shetellsherselfshetellsherself New JerseyPosts: 8,396
    Finally heard it first time fenway 2. 3rd song. What? Lost it
    5/3/92 Omaha, NE
    6/19/95 Red Rocks
    9/11/98 MSG
    11/19/12 EV solo Tulsa
    7/19/13 Wrigley 10/19/13 Brooklyn 2 10/21/13 Philly 1 10/22/13 Philly 2 10/25/13 Hartford
    10/08/14 Tulsa 10/09/14 Lincoln
    9/26/15 NYC
    4/16/16 Green-Vs-ille 4/28/16 Philly 1 4/29/16 Philly 2 5/1/16 MSG 1 5/2/16 MSG 2 8/7/16 Fenway 2 8/20/16 Wrigley 1
  • goldrushgoldrush everybody knows this is nowherePosts: 4,462
    mcgruff10 said:

    worst single for an album ever.
    I realize mike does some sick shit during this song but mike does a lot of sick shit during many songs. pretty boring song imo.

    You need to sit in the time out corner and think about what you just said young man! :)

    I love NAIS, and I thought it was a great single because it's such an unexpected choice. It opened the only show they've ever played in Wales (Cardiff 2000) so that will always be a special moment for me.
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 18,624

    mcgruff10 said:

    worst single for an album ever.
    I realize mike does some sick shit during this song but mike does a lot of sick shit during many songs. pretty boring song imo.

    The first six words of your post are wrong on so many levels
    I m almost positive the band has admitted in interviews that this was a bad choice as a first single.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • on2legson2legs The Jersey ShorePosts: 7,906
    Great song and I love it live, but not a radio friendly single.
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  • mcgruff10 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    worst single for an album ever.
    I realize mike does some sick shit during this song but mike does a lot of sick shit during many songs. pretty boring song imo.

    The first six words of your post are wrong on so many levels
    I m almost positive the band has admitted in interviews that this was a bad choice as a first single.
    You are correct. They definitely did state that. I think it was Jeff who said that. I'm probably the biggest defender of NAIS on here since day one, but this was a bad LEAD single for the record. Maybe Light Years or Breakerfall should be first and second and then follow those up with the slow jam.

    I'm not sure though if it tops Who You Are in regards to a surprising single though. That one came out of left field.
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 11,438

    mcgruff10 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    worst single for an album ever.
    I realize mike does some sick shit during this song but mike does a lot of sick shit during many songs. pretty boring song imo.

    The first six words of your post are wrong on so many levels
    I m almost positive the band has admitted in interviews that this was a bad choice as a first single.
    You are correct. They definitely did state that. I think it was Jeff who said that. I'm probably the biggest defender of NAIS on here since day one, but this was a bad LEAD single for the record. Maybe Light Years or Breakerfall should be first and second and then follow those up with the slow jam.

    I'm not sure though if it tops Who You Are in regards to a surprising single though. That one came out of left field.
    But...decisions like that are why many of us love this band so much. Most other bands don't release "Who You Are" at the height of their popularity.
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 18,624

    mcgruff10 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    worst single for an album ever.
    I realize mike does some sick shit during this song but mike does a lot of sick shit during many songs. pretty boring song imo.

    The first six words of your post are wrong on so many levels
    I m almost positive the band has admitted in interviews that this was a bad choice as a first single.
    You are correct. They definitely did state that. I think it was Jeff who said that. I'm probably the biggest defender of NAIS on here since day one, but this was a bad LEAD single for the record. Maybe Light Years or Breakerfall should be first and second and then follow those up with the slow jam.

    I'm not sure though if it tops Who You Are in regards to a surprising single though. That one came out of left field.
    yeah who you are was another head scratcher.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mcgruff10 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    worst single for an album ever.
    I realize mike does some sick shit during this song but mike does a lot of sick shit during many songs. pretty boring song imo.

    The first six words of your post are wrong on so many levels
    I m almost positive the band has admitted in interviews that this was a bad choice as a first single.
    You are correct. They definitely did state that. I think it was Jeff who said that. I'm probably the biggest defender of NAIS on here since day one, but this was a bad LEAD single for the record. Maybe Light Years or Breakerfall should be first and second and then follow those up with the slow jam.

    I'm not sure though if it tops Who You Are in regards to a surprising single though. That one came out of left field.
    But...decisions like that are why many of us love this band so much. Most other bands don't release "Who You Are" at the height of their popularity.
    I agree 110%. Releasing Who You Are and NAIS as lead singles are awesome to me. A great f you. I was looking at them from a marketing point of view and, if this were a typical band trying to sell albums, these two songs would be terrible choices as lead singles. I should have clarified that.
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPROPosts: 135,947
    M A S T E R P I E C E
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    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPROPosts: 135,947
    mcgruff10 said:

    worst single for an album ever.
    I realize mike does some sick shit during this song but mike does a lot of sick shit during many songs. pretty boring song imo.

    STOP THE DRUGS
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 11,438

    mcgruff10 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    worst single for an album ever.
    I realize mike does some sick shit during this song but mike does a lot of sick shit during many songs. pretty boring song imo.

    The first six words of your post are wrong on so many levels
    I m almost positive the band has admitted in interviews that this was a bad choice as a first single.
    You are correct. They definitely did state that. I think it was Jeff who said that. I'm probably the biggest defender of NAIS on here since day one, but this was a bad LEAD single for the record. Maybe Light Years or Breakerfall should be first and second and then follow those up with the slow jam.

    I'm not sure though if it tops Who You Are in regards to a surprising single though. That one came out of left field.
    But...decisions like that are why many of us love this band so much. Most other bands don't release "Who You Are" at the height of their popularity.
    I agree 110%. Releasing Who You Are and NAIS as lead singles are awesome to me. A great f you. I was looking at them from a marketing point of view and, if this were a typical band trying to sell albums, these two songs would be terrible choices as lead singles. I should have clarified that.
    Oh yeah. Completely agree.
  • hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of foreverPosts: 19,530
    Love the song as a whole, but as with some Radiohead (or even NIN) pieces, very dark and sometimes simply too heavy - to the point where it's needed / appreciated only at specific junctures in my life where it's a release vs. an exacerbation.
  • 100 Pacer100 Pacer Toronto, ONPosts: 6,090

    mcgruff10 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    worst single for an album ever.
    I realize mike does some sick shit during this song but mike does a lot of sick shit during many songs. pretty boring song imo.

    The first six words of your post are wrong on so many levels
    I m almost positive the band has admitted in interviews that this was a bad choice as a first single.
    You are correct. They definitely did state that. I think it was Jeff who said that. I'm probably the biggest defender of NAIS on here since day one, but this was a bad LEAD single for the record. Maybe Light Years or Breakerfall should be first and second and then follow those up with the slow jam.

    I'm not sure though if it tops Who You Are in regards to a surprising single though. That one came out of left field.
    If I'm not mistaken I think the thing to remember was the band had just hit their 1st Billboard #1 mark with Last Kiss the year prior and were probably (at the time) looking to test any newly established fans with the release of NAIS as the 1st single and/or looking to warn any newly established fans not to expect Last Kiss-esque material off Binaural and NAIS with the litmus test.
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

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  • JammalamboJammalambo Posts: 1,163
    Who cares what the band said?
    Pearl Jam can't recognize a good Pearl Jam song for shit.
    They should write songs, let the fans hear them first, and then let the fans decide which song to be included on the studio album, and which song to be left as a holiday single or Lost Dogs kind of release. Or never to be touched again (cough.. Sirens.. cough)
    Right?
  • TJ25487TJ25487 Posts: 1,081
    Love the song as a whole, but as with some Radiohead (or even NIN) pieces, very dark and sometimes simply too heavy - to the point where it's needed / appreciated only at specific junctures in my life where it's a release vs. an exacerbation.

    Yeah, that pretty much sums up Binaural. Gotta love it!
  • hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of foreverPosts: 19,530

    Who cares what the band said?
    Pearl Jam can't recognize a good Pearl Jam song for shit.
    They should write songs, let the fans hear them first, and then let the fans decide which song to be included on the studio album, and which song to be left as a holiday single or Lost Dogs kind of release. Or never to be touched again (cough.. Sirens.. cough)
    Right?

    I can't tell if this is sarcasm (I hope so!) but if not...it's not our art, it's theirs - theirs to do with what they want, how they want.

    I'd feel like an utterly pompous dick if I imposed my idea of how someone else's music or any other creation should be used, presented, released.

    Me, just one of many lucky recipients of such musical beauty.
  • Who cares what the band said?
    Pearl Jam can't recognize a good Pearl Jam song for shit.
    They should write songs, let the fans hear them first, and then let the fans decide which song to be included on the studio album, and which song to be left as a holiday single or Lost Dogs kind of release. Or never to be touched again (cough.. Sirens.. cough)
    Right?

    Nope. Not right.
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 18,624

    Who cares what the band said?
    Pearl Jam can't recognize a good Pearl Jam song for shit.
    They should write songs, let the fans hear them first, and then let the fans decide which song to be included on the studio album, and which song to be left as a holiday single or Lost Dogs kind of release. Or never to be touched again (cough.. Sirens.. cough)
    Right?

    yeah no.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mcgruff10 said:

    Who cares what the band said?
    Pearl Jam can't recognize a good Pearl Jam song for shit.
    They should write songs, let the fans hear them first, and then let the fans decide which song to be included on the studio album, and which song to be left as a holiday single or Lost Dogs kind of release. Or never to be touched again (cough.. Sirens.. cough)
    Right?

    yeah no.
    My head hurts :lol:
    Part of me agrees with Jammalambo otherwise we may be subjected to another sweet lew on an upcoming album instead of a real song.
    On the other hand I agree mcgruff, yeah no.
    Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not. Both ideas are overwhelming. AE
  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 16,234
    edited February 2017
    100 Pacer said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    worst single for an album ever.
    I realize mike does some sick shit during this song but mike does a lot of sick shit during many songs. pretty boring song imo.

    The first six words of your post are wrong on so many levels
    I m almost positive the band has admitted in interviews that this was a bad choice as a first single.
    You are correct. They definitely did state that. I think it was Jeff who said that. I'm probably the biggest defender of NAIS on here since day one, but this was a bad LEAD single for the record. Maybe Light Years or Breakerfall should be first and second and then follow those up with the slow jam.

    I'm not sure though if it tops Who You Are in regards to a surprising single though. That one came out of left field.
    If I'm not mistaken I think the thing to remember was the band had just hit their 1st Billboard #1 mark with Last Kiss the year prior and were probably (at the time) looking to test any newly established fans with the release of NAIS as the 1st single and/or looking to warn any newly established fans not to expect Last Kiss-esque material off Binaural and NAIS with the litmus test.
    #2. It couldn't get past JLo's "If You had my love"
    Post edited by igotid88 on
    I miss igotid88
  • JammalamboJammalambo Posts: 1,163
    Yes, I was sarcastic.. for the most part.
    It wouldnt work, anyway.. take me and mcgruff.. we have opposite views of what a good PJ song is.. nais, sleight of hand, cropduster.. amazing songs for me, boring songs for him and many others.
    Anyway, radio friendly means good lead single? Just breathe is the best single they ever released, then.
    I remember the first time I heard nais on the radio, I was in heaven. Give me that anyday instead of things like sirens or the fixer
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