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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,571
    edited March 2019
    2018
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I think they should just go ahead trying to invoke the 25th myself.
    on what grounds?
    On the grounds that he's not of sound mind. I personally feel that there is plenty of evidence pointing to that, and that is only what he does publicly. Imagine all the evidence added from behind closed doors.
    he hasn't done anything in public that amounts to anything close to what would be required under the 25th. 

    if he wasn't of sound mind, he wouldn't be capable of putting a cap on his behaviour simply because he's in public. I doubt he acts any differently at all behind closed doors. 
    Well whoever wrote that insider's letter to the NYT seemed to think the 25th could be invoked and said that it had been considered, but it hasn't been done because nobody has the balls to do it ....
    meh. one letter. by one person who chose to remain anonymous. 
    One letter backed up by 2+ years of observable proof, IMO.
    I'd have to read the text of the op-ed again, but I don't recall there being any bombshells or really any concrete details, just a whole lot of potential hyperbole. 

    and one letter by one person. take any number of bosses, and you will have at least one person who will have a wildly different view of how that person conducts themselves in a professional setting and how competent they are. 

    one letter by one person amounts to zero. 
    I mentioned the letter just to suggest that those who actually work with Trump think he could qualify under the 25th amendment (I believe the letter did say multiple people felt this). But again, that statement in that letter is backed by by oodles of observable behaviour, both public and private, suggesting it would indeed be a legit option if only anyone had the guts. Also note that I didn't think this would happen. I just said I think it should.
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,571
    edited March 2019
    2018
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    oftenreading said:
    People like to throw around the “he’s crazy, he’s delusional!” stuff all the time. No, he’s not; he’s a liar, and it’s working out well for him. I don’t see any sign that invoking the 25th has any chance of success. 
    agreed. he plays to the audience, which is what he's always done. he's incredibly inexperienced and has no knowledge of how to deal in the political realm. he is going to be a failure as a president but he's an incredible success as a first time politician. 
    I think he is all of the above. He is crazy, delusional, untethered from reality at times, emotionally erratic, confused, forgetful ... and he plays to the audience, is inexperienced, ignorant, amoral at best (I would say he's immoral myself).... and so on.
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    Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,730
    teskeinc said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    why does it appear there is no smoking gun? he hasn't even released the report yet. it's not like they are going to storm the doors of the oval office and put him in cuffs. 

    If there was anything major found, it would have been leaked. You honestly think that over 2 years of investigating that Mueller would be able to keep everything under wraps? If there was collusion many people would know about it and someone would have the evidence and be willing to talk.

    I've asked this question 100s of times to people, How did Russia make you vote for Trump and would you want to change your vote because of the Russians? Not one person has told me how or yes. 

    Trump is not getting impeached, hes not resigning. And if the Democrats keep heading down the same road he will get re-elected. 

    In all fairness, Hugh, I think what is alleged is propaganda from Russian bots, and someone that was influenced by it wouldn't be consciously aware that they were. 

    That said, I also have a bad feeling that Mueller isn't going to have anything that could take Trump down. At least as far as Russian interference in the election goes. His business ties there may be a different story though. 
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,571
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    The Juggler said:
    There is close to zero percent chance of the 25th amendment at this point. The time for that was a couple years ago when more competent people occupied his cabinet....and it was a huge long shot then too. Nothing but yes-men at this point...
    I agree with that. But that doesn't mean it shouldn't be invoked. Just that it won't be.
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,310
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    teskeinc said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    why does it appear there is no smoking gun? he hasn't even released the report yet. it's not like they are going to storm the doors of the oval office and put him in cuffs. 

    If there was anything major found, it would have been leaked. You honestly think that over 2 years of investigating that Mueller would be able to keep everything under wraps? If there was collusion many people would know about it and someone would have the evidence and be willing to talk.

    I've asked this question 100s of times to people, How did Russia make you vote for Trump and would you want to change your vote because of the Russians? Not one person has told me how or yes. 

    Trump is not getting impeached, hes not resigning. And if the Democrats keep heading down the same road he will get re-elected. 

    So because Muller has been so tight lipped he's report amounts to nothing ? 
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    teskeincteskeinc Posts: 836
    So because Muller has been so tight lipped he's report amounts to nothing ?  
    Pretty much. Or nothing significant. The only thing that can take down Trump will be financial violations. People think Mueller is some sort of God. If there was anything significant, we would have heard it or strong rumors.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,649
    josevolution said:
    teskeinc said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    why does it appear there is no smoking gun? he hasn't even released the report yet. it's not like they are going to storm the doors of the oval office and put him in cuffs. 

    If there was anything major found, it would have been leaked. You honestly think that over 2 years of investigating that Mueller would be able to keep everything under wraps? If there was collusion many people would know about it and someone would have the evidence and be willing to talk.

    I've asked this question 100s of times to people, How did Russia make you vote for Trump and would you want to change your vote because of the Russians? Not one person has told me how or yes. 

    Trump is not getting impeached, hes not resigning. And if the Democrats keep heading down the same road he will get re-elected. 

    So because Muller has been so tight lipped he's report amounts to nothing ? 
    Team Mueller isn't finished yet, not even close.

    They don't even know they were influenced by Russia and if they realized it, they're too embarrassed to admit it. They think they were influenced by "Mary," 20 friends separated from a Faceturd (or Twitter, Instgram, Snapchat, etc.) friend they know in real life. And it wasn't about voting for Team Trump Treason, it was about voting "not Hillary" or not at all. putin on the ritz's operation was not a "vote changing" operation, it was a "vote suppression" and pump up Team Trump Treason and sow seeds of doubt about Hillary operation, particularly amongst the dem base/Bernie Bros and indies. And it worked beautifully, Brexit having been the dry run. You've seen examples of it right here on these boards.
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    teskeincteskeinc Posts: 836
    So only the smart people, like you, voted Hillary and couldn't be influenced by Putin? OK.
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    oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,828
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    teskeinc said:
    So only the smart people, like you, voted Hillary and couldn't be influenced by Putin? OK.
    Well, no, that’s not what was said. 
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,649
    teskeinc said:
    So only the smart people, like you, voted Hillary and couldn't be influenced by Putin? OK.
    No.

    You missed it, I'm not the smartest guy in the room.

    https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf

    Overall, whites with a four-year college degree or more education made up 30% of all validated voters. Among these voters, far more (55%) said they voted for Clinton than for Trump (38%). Among the much larger group of white voters who had not completed college (44% of all voters), Trump won by more than two-to-one (64% to 28%).

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    teskeincteskeinc Posts: 836
    All the polls and %s had Clinton easily winning up until the first polls closed. I'm sure the Russians controlled those too. 


    Bottom line is Trump is not going anywhere until 2021, and if they nominate Bernie its gonna be a long 4 more years of the liberal whine and cheese party.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,649
    teskeinc said:
    All the polls and %s had Clinton easily winning up until the first polls closed. I'm sure the Russians controlled those too. 


    Bottom line is Trump is not going anywhere until 2021, and if they nominate Bernie its gonna be a long 4 more years of the liberal whine and cheese party.
    I didn't claim putin on the ritz controlled the polls. I'm claiming his disinformation/influence campaign impacted our election and lead to Team Trump Treason to become POTUS, with coordination and knowledge of the Team Trump Treason campaign, Wikileaks, the RNC and NRA. Bigger than Watergate. Meanwhile, repubs, after another potential 4 years, will blame Hillary and Obama for all that ailes the nation. Personally, I think Team Trump Treason will be impeached and removed from office once all the investigations are completed, maybe before.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,312
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    teskeinc said:
    All the polls and %s had Clinton easily winning up until the first polls closed. I'm sure the Russians controlled those too. 


    Bottom line is Trump is not going anywhere until 2021, and if they nominate Bernie its gonna be a long 4 more years of the liberal whine and cheese party.
    In one post, this guy says the only thing that will take Trump down are financial violations, which are actively being investigated thoroughly by the SDNY right now. Then in this post, he says Trump will be here until 2021....





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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
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    The Juggler said:
    josevolution said:
    So now Muller's investigation is a dud ? really when was the report made available to the public ?
    This was considered a dud by a certain member here reading tea leaves from headlines that said the report was going to be out last week.

    Doh.
    Check your passive aggressiveness, homie
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,312
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    my2hands said:
    The Juggler said:
    josevolution said:
    So now Muller's investigation is a dud ? really when was the report made available to the public ?
    This was considered a dud by a certain member here reading tea leaves from headlines that said the report was going to be out last week.

    Doh.
    Check your passive aggressiveness, homie
    Gonna tell on me again?
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,310
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    teskeinc said:
    So because Muller has been so tight lipped he's report amounts to nothing ?  
    Pretty much. Or nothing significant. The only thing that can take down Trump will be financial violations. People think Mueller is some sort of God. If there was anything significant, we would have heard it or strong rumors.
    I don’t agree with you at all the fact that no leaks have occurred should tell you he’s a true professional not like the idiot in the WH ..
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    The Juggler said:
    my2hands said:
    The Juggler said:
    josevolution said:
    So now Muller's investigation is a dud ? really when was the report made available to the public ?
    This was considered a dud by a certain member here reading tea leaves from headlines that said the report was going to be out last week.

    Doh.
    Check your passive aggressiveness, homie
    Gonna tell on me again?
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,312
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    my2hands said:
    The Juggler said:
    my2hands said:
    The Juggler said:
    josevolution said:
    So now Muller's investigation is a dud ? really when was the report made available to the public ?
    This was considered a dud by a certain member here reading tea leaves from headlines that said the report was going to be out last week.

    Doh.
    Check your passive aggressiveness, homie
    Gonna tell on me again?
    @kat

    You’re a grown man (I’m assuming) and you’re running to the moderator over that post? Really?

    What is wrong with you? 
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    Go Nads! Go Nads! Go Nads Nadler!

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    Now why on God’s green earth do you suppose this is happening now? Any guesses? I’m sure it’s all on the up and up and due to her hard work and dedication that she’s being promoted on merit.

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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
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    The Juggler said:
    my2hands said:
    The Juggler said:
    my2hands said:
    The Juggler said:
    josevolution said:
    So now Muller's investigation is a dud ? really when was the report made available to the public ?
    This was considered a dud by a certain member here reading tea leaves from headlines that said the report was going to be out last week.

    Doh.
    Check your passive aggressiveness, homie
    Gonna tell on me again?
    @kat

    You’re a grown man (I’m assuming) and you’re running to the moderator over that post? Really?

    What is wrong with you? 
    Stop making slick comments. Stop being condescending. Stop being personal.

    Move on
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    The Juggler said:
    my2hands said:
    The Juggler said:
    my2hands said:
    The Juggler said:
    josevolution said:
    So now Muller's investigation is a dud ? really when was the report made available to the public ?
    This was considered a dud by a certain member here reading tea leaves from headlines that said the report was going to be out last week.

    Doh.
    Check your passive aggressiveness, homie
    Gonna tell on me again?
    @kat

    You’re a grown man (I’m assuming) and you’re running to the moderator over that post? Really?

    What is wrong with you? 
    It's ridiculous so best to ignore.
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303

    In the Middle of His Official Business, Trump Took the Time to Send Checks to Michael Cohen



    Indeed, some people close to Mr. Trump have privately predicted that he will ultimately choose to seek a second term in part because of his legal exposure if he is not president. While there is no legal consensus on the matter, Justice Department policy says that a president cannot be indicted while in office.

    No shit.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/05/us/politics/trump-michael-cohen-checks.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    edited March 2019
    2017
    dignin said:
    The Juggler said:
    my2hands said:
    The Juggler said:
    my2hands said:
    The Juggler said:
    josevolution said:
    So now Muller's investigation is a dud ? really when was the report made available to the public ?
    This was considered a dud by a certain member here reading tea leaves from headlines that said the report was going to be out last week.

    Doh.
    Check your passive aggressiveness, homie
    Gonna tell on me again?
    @kat

    You’re a grown man (I’m assuming) and you’re running to the moderator over that post? Really?

    What is wrong with you? 
    It's ridiculous so best to ignore.
    Maybe take your own advice, eh? Doesn't involve you, but you cant help yourself... 

    Same people over and over and over running in a pack acting like jerks and instigators... i was asked to point it out, so i will...


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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
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    2017
    Let me say this clearly....

    Multiple posters here are constantly passive aggressive, rude, condescending, dismissive, and personal and then try to act like they've done nothing wrong... not a single one of you would communicate like that to me or other people in person... you're rude, and then don't own it and act like the victim when someone calls you on it or decides to fire back.... and here we are, still the same people running in the same pack making their little sniveling smartass comments, then act like the victim... and since the mods never want to hold certain posters accountable for this ongoing behavior that seems to never cease, here i am being the board asshole

    Not a single one of you would talk slick like this in person, so why do it on a keyboard?
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,649
    Jarrod Dear Boy’s time in the barrel?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/06/opinion/jared-kushner-trump.html

    I sure as hell hope so.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,312
    2019
    dignin said:
    The Juggler said:
    my2hands said:
    The Juggler said:
    my2hands said:
    The Juggler said:
    josevolution said:
    So now Muller's investigation is a dud ? really when was the report made available to the public ?
    This was considered a dud by a certain member here reading tea leaves from headlines that said the report was going to be out last week.

    Doh.
    Check your passive aggressiveness, homie
    Gonna tell on me again?
    @kat

    You’re a grown man (I’m assuming) and you’re running to the moderator over that post? Really?

    What is wrong with you? 
    It's ridiculous so best to ignore.
    You are probably right.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,312
    2019
    Oh to be a fly on the wall during the CLOSED hearings. Would love to see how the repubs act when the cameras aren’t rolling and they don’t feel the need to perform for the president. Looks like yesterday was a good day



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    SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,520
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,649
    Pauly Manafort gets sentenced today and indictments tend to drop tomorrow, on Fridays. Icing would be Roger Dodger Stoned doing something stupid and getting his punk ass thrown in jail through trial.

    Meanwhile, Team Mueller continues to connect dots as does SDNY and NDVA. Remember connecting dots? It’s so much fun boys and girls!
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