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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    2017
    josevolution said:
    my2hands said:
    Everyone already knows about the Stormy payments... not exactly breaking news, or worthy of the font size lol
    So are you proposing that people should just shrug their shoulders and let everything go ! talk about giving up damn ..
    Didnt say anything close to that... what i said is none of that is new and would be far from a bombshell
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    2017
    Go Beavers said:
    my2hands said:
    Go Beavers said:
    vaggar99 said:
    i just thought of something.  what is better than impeachment or resignation?  how bout handing Trump the worst popular and perhaps electoral defeat to any sitting President in the history of the US?  the thought just made my day.
    That he makes it to 2020 to run again is the second worst outcome. The first being that he wins in 2020. The best outcome is impeachment, removal, and eventual prison time. 

    total fantasy my friend.... he is on the ballot in 2020 and has a shot.... reality will set in for folks soon enough
    Will his chances of winning be better or worse in 2020 compared to 2016?
    Less than 50%, but not much less since both parties will get 60 million votes just by being on the ballot no matter who it is and it just seems like a big coin flip

    he lost the popular vote with 46% of the vote.... but won 56% of the electoral college.... that is what concerns me... he can be at 40% approval and still possibly have a path to victory.... 
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    pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,204
    my2hands said:
    Go Beavers said:
    my2hands said:
    Go Beavers said:
    vaggar99 said:
    i just thought of something.  what is better than impeachment or resignation?  how bout handing Trump the worst popular and perhaps electoral defeat to any sitting President in the history of the US?  the thought just made my day.
    That he makes it to 2020 to run again is the second worst outcome. The first being that he wins in 2020. The best outcome is impeachment, removal, and eventual prison time. 

    total fantasy my friend.... he is on the ballot in 2020 and has a shot.... reality will set in for folks soon enough
    Will his chances of winning be better or worse in 2020 compared to 2016?
    Less than 50%, but not much less since both parties will get 60 million votes just by being on the ballot no matter who it is and it just seems like a big coin flip

    he lost the popular vote with 46% of the vote.... but won 56% of the electoral college.... that is what concerns me... he can be at 40% approval and still possibly have a path to victory.... 
    I have more faith in this country than to allow him to win again if he is still on the ballot in 2020.  good news is he will have to win Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania again to win and those states went Democratic in the mid-terms.  Obviously who the Democrat is will play a huge role.  
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,298
    2019
    What are they afraid of?


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    pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,204
    The Juggler said:
    What are they afraid of?


    or how dumb are they? why would you poke the bear that has the deepest secrets of the President at his disposal.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,298
    2019
    Assuming the WSJ article is correct and Cohen has a signed check from Trump while office, Maddow just laid out the scenario that I’ve always thought was most likely for forcing him out of office: an agreement for him to resign as opposed to facing a sealed indictment that would be waiting for him after he leaves office. And there is precedent for this, kind of, with Spiro Agnew. 

    Big week, folks. Big week. 


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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    2017
    The Juggler said:

    Big week, folks. Big week. 


    Lol... how many times have i heard this the past two years? I've lost count
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,298
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,113
    2018
    The Juggler said:

    Honest question.  Cohen worked for Trump.  How do they connect that check to specific purposes?
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    2017
    We already know he paid women hush money... my question, is there anything new? Any unknown bombshells coming? 
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,298
    2019
    cincybearcat said:
    The Juggler said:

    Honest question.  Cohen worked for Trump.  How do they connect that check to specific purposes?
    I guess we’ll find out?
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,298
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    2017
    That check is from 2017... whats the allegation surrounding that check?
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,113
    2018
    The Juggler said:

    So we are suppose to just believe Cohen?

    I actually do, but I'm not certain...in fact I'm fairly certain that won't be enough for a lot of people. I sure hope there is some better way to connect payments to his lawyer to the hush $.  I wonder how much $ in checks Donald sent to Michael Cohen in 2015, 2016, & 2017.  Were checks like this normal and if so, I don't see how one can easily connect the dots unless you just want to believe it.

    Hoping for more.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,298
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    2019
    cincybearcat said:
    The Juggler said:

    So we are suppose to just believe Cohen?

    I actually do, but I'm not certain...in fact I'm fairly certain that won't be enough for a lot of people. I sure hope there is some better way to connect payments to his lawyer to the hush $.  I wonder how much $ in checks Donald sent to Michael Cohen in 2015, 2016, & 2017.  Were checks like this normal and if so, I don't see how one can easily connect the dots unless you just want to believe it.

    Hoping for more.
    Well I’m sure these are some of the questions he’ll get grilled over during these ten or so hours today. 


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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,298
    2019
    my2hands said:
    That check is from 2017... whats the allegation surrounding that check?
    Read some articles about it. 
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,298
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    Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    cincybearcat said:
    The Juggler said:

    So we are suppose to just believe Cohen?

    I actually do, but I'm not certain...in fact I'm fairly certain that won't be enough for a lot of people. I sure hope there is some better way to connect payments to his lawyer to the hush $.  I wonder how much $ in checks Donald sent to Michael Cohen in 2015, 2016, & 2017.  Were checks like this normal and if so, I don't see how one can easily connect the dots unless you just want to believe it.

    Hoping for more.
    He is a lawyer.  He is also a disbarred lawyer.  Most people have low opinions of lawyers who still have their law licence.  So I guess most people will take whatever he has to say with a grain of salt unless he produces solid evidence...even then, he was a lawyer.
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,113
    2018
    The Juggler said:
    cincybearcat said:
    The Juggler said:

    So we are suppose to just believe Cohen?

    I actually do, but I'm not certain...in fact I'm fairly certain that won't be enough for a lot of people. I sure hope there is some better way to connect payments to his lawyer to the hush $.  I wonder how much $ in checks Donald sent to Michael Cohen in 2015, 2016, & 2017.  Were checks like this normal and if so, I don't see how one can easily connect the dots unless you just want to believe it.

    Hoping for more.
    Well I’m sure these are some of the questions he’ll get grilled over during these ten or so hours today. 


    Yup, I sure hope there is a good way to connect.
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    Meltdown99 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    The Juggler said:

    So we are suppose to just believe Cohen?

    I actually do, but I'm not certain...in fact I'm fairly certain that won't be enough for a lot of people. I sure hope there is some better way to connect payments to his lawyer to the hush $.  I wonder how much $ in checks Donald sent to Michael Cohen in 2015, 2016, & 2017.  Were checks like this normal and if so, I don't see how one can easily connect the dots unless you just want to believe it.

    Hoping for more.
    He is a lawyer.  He is also a disbarred lawyer.  Most people have low opinions of lawyers who still have their law licence.  So I guess most people will take whatever he has to say with a grain of salt unless he produces solid evidence...even then, he was a lawyer.
    In this case, Trump fans will (in fact, already are) call him a liar trying to save his own ass while Trump haters will think he’s telling the truth.
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    2017
    The Juggler said:
    my2hands said:
    That check is from 2017... whats the allegation surrounding that check?
    Read some articles about it. 
    No thanks
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,618
    The guilty acting, well, guilty. Donny Jr. is going to have to be called back before the Congress and explain himself. Then be indicted.

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    What are they afraid of?
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    Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,637
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    Magas are in a bind as to whether to believe Cohen when he said he wasn’t in Prague. 
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,618
    Connecting dots is so much fun! Isn’t that right boys and girls?
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    RICO. R. I. C. O. And some think that today’s hearing was the end? Just the beginning, tip of the iceberg. Team Mueller and SDNY and the Honorable Elijah Cummings. Funny thing is, we shouldn’t even be here.

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    bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,542
    Cohen’s testimony  is already old news.   Nothing we didn’t already know.  Every week we say this is the thing that will ruin him and it just fades away.
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,303
    2018
    bootlegger10 said:
    Cohen’s testimony  is already old news.   Nothing we didn’t already know.  Every week we say this is the thing that will ruin him and it just fades away.
    So tell me what do you think about Cohen stating that even if he looses the next election he won’t leave office peacefully...
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,113
    2018
    Just my personal opinion of the Cohen testimony...

    I don't think there was a lot of new info.  Now, having a check would be amazing, but only if it can really be linked.  I personally think they should have left all the racism, etc out of the conversation.  That seemed like a hollywood add to make it dramatic.  Focus on the crimes. 

    So - I'm sure there is more to come with Mueller etc. but I was let down.  It is also amazing that we can know all of this stuff about the president and he still stands a decent chance at being re-elected.  Even if he can't be removed from office...he should be unelectable.  
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,303
    2018
    cincybearcat said:
    Just my personal opinion of the Cohen testimony...

    I don't think there was a lot of new info.  Now, having a check would be amazing, but only if it can really be linked.  I personally think they should have left all the racism, etc out of the conversation.  That seemed like a hollywood add to make it dramatic.  Focus on the crimes. 

    So - I'm sure there is more to come with Mueller etc. but I was let down.  It is also amazing that we can know all of this stuff about the president and he still stands a decent chance at being re-elected.  Even if he can't be removed from office...he should be unelectable.  
    lol even if he looses next election he won’t leave office peacefully doesn’t that concern you ?
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