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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,550
    GOP had control of both houses for two yrs of the Baffoon’s presidency , so for folks to question why there were no charges against him there’s your answer Republicans didn’t want to lift a finger against him ..
    Nope they do not.
    Certainly not while they can go after Roe v. Wade
    Certainly not while going after anything and everything Obama.
    Certainly not while filling their own bank accounts 
    Certainly not while filling the federal judicial system with conservative judges.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,298
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    Mueller's no coward. He's doing thing by the book. Head down/doing his job. Referring cases to other jurisdictions that do not meet his direct objective. We'll know soon enough, folks. 
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,298
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    Well it's MICHAEL COHEN WEEK! Y'all excited?

    Really looking forward the open hearing tomorrow. Wish I wasn't working so I could see most of it.

    Can you imagine how much further along things would be if the dems controlled the house for the last two years? How many OPEN hearings there would've been. Hard to believe they're just getting started at this point. 
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    Well it's MICHAEL COHEN WEEK! Y'all excited?

    Really looking forward the open hearing tomorrow. Wish I wasn't working so I could see most of it.

    Can you imagine how much further along things would be if the dems controlled the house for the last two years? How many OPEN hearings there would've been. Hard to believe they're just getting started at this point. 
    I expect Nunes to run all the way to Vietnam.
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    pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,204
    Well it's MICHAEL COHEN WEEK! Y'all excited?

    Really looking forward the open hearing tomorrow. Wish I wasn't working so I could see most of it.

    Can you imagine how much further along things would be if the dems controlled the house for the last two years? How many OPEN hearings there would've been. Hard to believe they're just getting started at this point. 
    can't wait until he throws Don Jr, Ivanka and Jared boy under the bus for all their shady business dealings. Trumps twitter head will explode from over seas.
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    Well it's MICHAEL COHEN WEEK! Y'all excited?

    Really looking forward the open hearing tomorrow. Wish I wasn't working so I could see most of it.

    Can you imagine how much further along things would be if the dems controlled the house for the last two years? How many OPEN hearings there would've been. Hard to believe they're just getting started at this point. 
    Must see TV
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
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    like I said..... this is nothing but entertainment for some people, they don't really give a shit
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    Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    my2hands said:
    like I said..... this is nothing but entertainment for some people, they don't really give a shit
    I agree.  I find this very entertaining.  Pure comedy gold...
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    Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,637
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    i just thought of something.  what is better than impeachment or resignation?  how bout handing Trump the worst popular and perhaps electoral defeat to any sitting President in the history of the US?  the thought just made my day.
    That he makes it to 2020 to run again is the second worst outcome. The first being that he wins in 2020. The best outcome is impeachment, removal, and eventual prison time. 
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
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    vaggar99 said:
    i just thought of something.  what is better than impeachment or resignation?  how bout handing Trump the worst popular and perhaps electoral defeat to any sitting President in the history of the US?  the thought just made my day.
    That he makes it to 2020 to run again is the second worst outcome. The first being that he wins in 2020. The best outcome is impeachment, removal, and eventual prison time. 

    total fantasy my friend.... he is on the ballot in 2020 and has a shot.... reality will set in for folks soon enough
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,824
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    my2hands said:
    vaggar99 said:
    i just thought of something.  what is better than impeachment or resignation?  how bout handing Trump the worst popular and perhaps electoral defeat to any sitting President in the history of the US?  the thought just made my day.
    That he makes it to 2020 to run again is the second worst outcome. The first being that he wins in 2020. The best outcome is impeachment, removal, and eventual prison time. 

    total fantasy my friend.... he is on the ballot in 2020 and has a shot.... reality will set in for folks soon enough
    Assuming we some day get back to sanity, I think history will show this as the most corrupt presidency of all time.  And I think Muller's probe will be a part of why that is.  

    But right now?  Muller's probably not going to save us.  The courts, which are being stacked with party loyalists, are not going to save us.  The only thing that can save us is defeating Trump in 2020.  And if you think that's a given, I don't know what to tell you.
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    mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,385
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    I agree with the fact that he will be on the ballot in 2020. That being said, I don't think that he will win. The Mueller report and other ongoing investigations will be key talking points and he won't be able to recover.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,298
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    pjhawks said:
    Well it's MICHAEL COHEN WEEK! Y'all excited?

    Really looking forward the open hearing tomorrow. Wish I wasn't working so I could see most of it.

    Can you imagine how much further along things would be if the dems controlled the house for the last two years? How many OPEN hearings there would've been. Hard to believe they're just getting started at this point. 
    can't wait until he throws Don Jr, Ivanka and Jared boy under the bus for all their shady business dealings. Trumps twitter head will explode from over seas.
    Goodness, Hawks---it takes politics for us to finally agree on something. 

    He is supposedly bringing documented proof of his claims. If he's got proof that the White House instructed him to lie to congress---we might be able to press fast forward on the obstruction of justice route to impeachment. 
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,824
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    pjhawks said:
    Well it's MICHAEL COHEN WEEK! Y'all excited?

    Really looking forward the open hearing tomorrow. Wish I wasn't working so I could see most of it.

    Can you imagine how much further along things would be if the dems controlled the house for the last two years? How many OPEN hearings there would've been. Hard to believe they're just getting started at this point. 
    can't wait until he throws Don Jr, Ivanka and Jared boy under the bus for all their shady business dealings. Trumps twitter head will explode from over seas.
    Goodness, Hawks---it takes politics for us to finally agree on something. 

    He is supposedly bringing documented proof of his claims. If he's got proof that the White House instructed him to lie to congress---we might be able to press fast forward on the obstruction of justice route to impeachment. 
    Do you guys bicker on the Porch about Binaural vs. Riot Act or something?  :) 
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,298
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    OnWis97 said:
    pjhawks said:
    Well it's MICHAEL COHEN WEEK! Y'all excited?

    Really looking forward the open hearing tomorrow. Wish I wasn't working so I could see most of it.

    Can you imagine how much further along things would be if the dems controlled the house for the last two years? How many OPEN hearings there would've been. Hard to believe they're just getting started at this point. 
    can't wait until he throws Don Jr, Ivanka and Jared boy under the bus for all their shady business dealings. Trumps twitter head will explode from over seas.
    Goodness, Hawks---it takes politics for us to finally agree on something. 

    He is supposedly bringing documented proof of his claims. If he's got proof that the White House instructed him to lie to congress---we might be able to press fast forward on the obstruction of justice route to impeachment. 
    Do you guys bicker on the Porch about Binaural vs. Riot Act or something?  :) 
    We've bickered about the Philadelphia sports scene on a daily basis for about 15 years. haha
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303

    Michael Cohen plans to publicly accuse Trump of criminal conduct in office during dramatic testimony before Congress


    • Cohen, meanwhile, will accuse the president of engaging in criminal conduct while in office, The Wall Street Journal reported. The accusations are related to the hush-money payment Cohen facilitated to the porn star Stormy Daniels in exchange for her silence about an affair she says she had with Trump, which Trump denies.
    • The Journal quoted a source as saying Cohen also planned to provide evidence of "lies, racism, and cheating" by Trump.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/michael-cohen-trump-criminal-conduct-in-office-wsj-report-2019-2

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    pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,204
    OnWis97 said:
    pjhawks said:
    Well it's MICHAEL COHEN WEEK! Y'all excited?

    Really looking forward the open hearing tomorrow. Wish I wasn't working so I could see most of it.

    Can you imagine how much further along things would be if the dems controlled the house for the last two years? How many OPEN hearings there would've been. Hard to believe they're just getting started at this point. 
    can't wait until he throws Don Jr, Ivanka and Jared boy under the bus for all their shady business dealings. Trumps twitter head will explode from over seas.
    Goodness, Hawks---it takes politics for us to finally agree on something. 

    He is supposedly bringing documented proof of his claims. If he's got proof that the White House instructed him to lie to congress---we might be able to press fast forward on the obstruction of justice route to impeachment. 
    Do you guys bicker on the Porch about Binaural vs. Riot Act or something?  :) 
    he continually is on the wrong side of almost every Philly sports argument with me (i kid i kid :) ) - it's all good though.  I enjoy our back and forths.  it's a lot less personal (well most of the time) than what happens here in AET. Us Philly guys bicker like brothers sometimes but don't often get too bothered with each other.   Most seem like normal good guys even if I disagree with them a lot of times.
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    pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,204
    dignin said:

    Michael Cohen plans to publicly accuse Trump of criminal conduct in office during dramatic testimony before Congress


    • Cohen, meanwhile, will accuse the president of engaging in criminal conduct while in office, The Wall Street Journal reported. The accusations are related to the hush-money payment Cohen facilitated to the porn star Stormy Daniels in exchange for her silence about an affair she says she had with Trump, which Trump denies.
    • The Journal quoted a source as saying Cohen also planned to provide evidence of "lies, racism, and cheating" by Trump.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/michael-cohen-trump-criminal-conduct-in-office-wsj-report-2019-2

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    one question - how is showing off Trump's financial documents even legal?

    that being said if he has any documented evidence this could get real interesting.  
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,113
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    dignin said:

    Michael Cohen plans to publicly accuse Trump of criminal conduct in office during dramatic testimony before Congress


    • Cohen, meanwhile, will accuse the president of engaging in criminal conduct while in office, The Wall Street Journal reported. The accusations are related to the hush-money payment Cohen facilitated to the porn star Stormy Daniels in exchange for her silence about an affair she says she had with Trump, which Trump denies.
    • The Journal quoted a source as saying Cohen also planned to provide evidence of "lies, racism, and cheating" by Trump.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/michael-cohen-trump-criminal-conduct-in-office-wsj-report-2019-2

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    I hope he does.  And he is believable or has real proof.  Weird how this guy became one of the last great hopes.
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
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    Everyone already knows about the Stormy payments... not exactly breaking news, or worthy of the font size lol
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    my2hands said:
    Everyone already knows about the Stormy payments... not exactly breaking news, or worthy of the font size lol
    Did you read the story...or just the headline?
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    Desperado, you’ve got the weight on your shoulders....................

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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
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    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    Everyone already knows about the Stormy payments... not exactly breaking news, or worthy of the font size lol
    Did you read the story...or just the headline?

    i read the headline.... cohen will say he broke the law in the stormy payments... will say he is racist.... a cheater.... and a liar...


    i'm shocked at these revelations *gasp*

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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
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    Desperado, you’ve got the weight on your shoulders....................

    https://apple.news/AJPWOfzuVRWO1u0D_kQJ9sA


    soft landing ahead...

    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/26/trump-associates-mueller-investigation-1186392



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    benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 8,938
    my2hands said:
    like I said..... this is nothing but entertainment for some people, they don't really give a shit
    If it's all handled behind the scenes, you question why we don't know more. If it's an open hearing, it's an opportunity for entertainment.
    What do you want from the public, from Mueller, from the corrupt shitheads in charge? I don't understand your MO. 

    Meanwhile, if your comment is true, then they do really give a shit - about the entertainment value. Above the cultural value, the economic value, the social value. Mitch Hedberg once said to "get your priorities crooked". Shame the world decided to listen.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,298
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    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    Everyone already knows about the Stormy payments... not exactly breaking news, or worthy of the font size lol
    Did you read the story...or just the headline?
    Haha
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    my2hands said:
    Desperado, you’ve got the weight on your shoulders....................

    https://apple.news/AJPWOfzuVRWO1u0D_kQJ9sA


    soft landing ahead...

    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/26/trump-associates-mueller-investigation-1186392



    Crash and burn (from your link):

    “These guys took the whole Congress thing way too lightly. They didn’t understand [members and aides] actually listen, take notes and record this shit,” said a senior Republican official in regular touch with the White House. “I think they all took it way too nonchalantly and didn’t think it matters — and boy does it.”

    “If you lie in a sworn deposition to Congress or anybody else then you should be worried. That’s how people go to jail,” added Barry Bennett, a former Trump 2016 campaign adviser.

    On one side, Team Mueller, by the book, 39 individuals/entities indicted, racking up 199 individual charges, plead and/or awaiting trial and on the other side, Team Trump Treason family members who's public persona is to continue lying and keep up appearances. Sounds like an equal comparison to me.

    Meanwhile, Cohen is set to testify, the House released a shit ton of testimony before Congress transcripts to Team Mueller and we now know that a ton of polling data was shared by Team Trump Treason with putin on the ritz. And everyone involved, thus far, has lied, repeatedly. The $100,000 question is, "why?" Team Mueller will get to the bottom of it and the only soft landing will be his retirement as a national hero for exposing the treasonous POTUS and his corrupt family.

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    Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,637
    my2hands said:
    vaggar99 said:
    i just thought of something.  what is better than impeachment or resignation?  how bout handing Trump the worst popular and perhaps electoral defeat to any sitting President in the history of the US?  the thought just made my day.
    That he makes it to 2020 to run again is the second worst outcome. The first being that he wins in 2020. The best outcome is impeachment, removal, and eventual prison time. 

    total fantasy my friend.... he is on the ballot in 2020 and has a shot.... reality will set in for folks soon enough
    Will his chances of winning be better or worse in 2020 compared to 2016?
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,824
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    my2hands said:
    vaggar99 said:
    i just thought of something.  what is better than impeachment or resignation?  how bout handing Trump the worst popular and perhaps electoral defeat to any sitting President in the history of the US?  the thought just made my day.
    That he makes it to 2020 to run again is the second worst outcome. The first being that he wins in 2020. The best outcome is impeachment, removal, and eventual prison time. 

    total fantasy my friend.... he is on the ballot in 2020 and has a shot.... reality will set in for folks soon enough
    Will his chances of winning be better or worse in 2020 compared to 2016?
    Hopefully they'll be recognized as better...that is, the left won't just let the whole "he can't win" attitude keep them at home.

    His actual chance?  Maybe a bit worse, provided Hillary does not get the nomination (and I wouldn't put that past the Dems).  That said, I'm not seeing any candidates I feel comfortable about.  And the base has their heels far more dug in than it did in 2016.  He'll just just as many popular votes as he did in 2016, maybe more.  But with Hillary (hopefully) out of the picture maybe the Dem candidates votes go up enough to take the extra states.  My fake, gut, meaningless guess: 60% chance Trump wins.
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,303
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    my2hands said:
    Everyone already knows about the Stormy payments... not exactly breaking news, or worthy of the font size lol
    So are you proposing that people should just shrug their shoulders and let everything go ! talk about giving up damn ..
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