I think it would be safe to say that most would use basic judgment and consider his promise to be to start the ball rolling day 1. Even if the world's perfect health plan that would cure cancer by just be being enrolled in it, it still couldn't be reviewed, voted on, passed and rolled out on day 1.
Last I heard he hasn't met with anyone in Congress to work on legislation to any degree of significance. Granted, it's probably hard for him when you don't understand how laws are made.
Democrats are terrified that someone who needs help, isn't getting it. Republicans are terrified that someone who doesn't need help, is getting it. Teabaggers are terrified that someone is getting help. Trumpeteers are terrified.
This pretty well sums up conservatives: they formulate their worldview on anecdotal stories. Nothing is more anecdotal than winning the lottery.
So a penalty paid to the government for lack of coverage is unacceptable, but a penalty paid to the insurance profiteers is A-OK? That's exactly what I would expect from the government party that gets paid to dismantle itself.
Only the party of "fiscal responsibility" would propose such a major piece of legislation as the bill to overturn the ACA without having the costs and financials vetted by the CBO. Further proof that Mitch "Failure Is Our Only Option" McConnell and Paul "Eddie Munster" Ryan are in way over their heads. You know why? Because their money was on Hillary winning and they don't know what to do. Like Trump, clueless. Popcorn futures is where it's at. Along with whatever dope BS is smoking futures. BS has really really good shit.
Democrats are terrified that someone who needs help, isn't getting it. Republicans are terrified that someone who doesn't need help, is getting it. Teabaggers are terrified that someone is getting help. Trumpeteers are terrified.
This pretty well sums up conservatives: they formulate their worldview on anecdotal stories. Nothing is more anecdotal than winning the lottery.
While that seems excessive to put that much in the bill about lottery winners, having a plan to handle those situations is not a bad thing. Granted, they're screwing up the Medicaid system with most of their rules and not expanding coverage, but trying to cover every scenario is not a bad thing at all. Ever read your home insurance, auto policy or credit card terms and benefits? there's lots of crazy stuff in there too
I think a huge problem is that most M.D.'s in the United States are under the mistaken impression they are not "successful" if they don't own a 2 million dollar SUMMER home and multiple pairs of $500 Ferragamo's (Cheaney and Son's are better ). The lifestyle they lead is unmatched by doctors anywhere else in the world.
I think a huge problem is that most M.D.'s in the United States are under the mistaken impression they are not "successful" if they don't own a 2 million dollar SUMMER home and multiple pairs of $500 Ferragamo's (Cheaney and Son's are better ). The lifestyle they lead is unmatched by doctors anywhere else in the world.
I can agree with that. I'm ok with doctors making a lot of money, and they should since your life is in their hands pretty much, but yeah, I think that there are a lot of doctors that think they should be paid exorbitant amounts of money when they shouldn't. But that's also our culture these days. If you don't have the best and most expensive things, you're just not cool.
^^this is the incorrect stereotype of doctors. While some plastic surgeons in Beverly Hills may live extravagant lifestyles, most real world rural doctors are far from this. Have you researched the average salary of pediatricians, family medicine docs, and internal medicine docs?? Maybe you could research that and realize that your assumptions are eroneous. And while most people complain about student loans for college, compound that with additional 250k medical school loans. Then ask around to see how many hours most docs invest into their practice that they are not able to bill for, like lawyers who bill per 15 min basis. And compare the salaries with professional athletes who make 1-25 million per year and CEOs of hospitals who make millions. And Wall Street hedge fund and bankers. Are you seriously blaming doctors for the exorbitant costs of healthcare because of their salaries?? Which actually can decrease because of reimbursement cuts by CMS and insurances. Granted that lots of doctors order too many tests because of "cover your ass" medical practices of today with all the lawsuits as well as the encouragement from hospitals that profit the most for all the unnecessary workup expenses...
^^this is the incorrect stereotype of doctors. While some plastic surgeons in Beverly Hills may live extravagant lifestyles, most real world rural doctors are far from this. Have you researched the average salary of pediatricians, family medicine docs, and internal medicine docs?? Maybe you could research that and realize that your assumptions are eroneous. And while most people complain about student loans for college, compound that with additional 250k medical school loans. Then ask around to see how many hours most docs invest into their practice that they are not able to bill for, like lawyers who bill per 15 min basis. And compare the salaries with professional athletes who make 1-25 million per year and CEOs of hospitals who make millions. And Wall Street hedge fund and bankers. Are you seriously blaming doctors for the exorbitant costs of healthcare because of their salaries?? Which actually can decrease because of reimbursement cuts by CMS and insurances. Granted that lots of doctors order too many tests because of "cover your ass" medical practices of today with all the lawsuits as well as the encouragement from hospitals that profit the most for all the unnecessary workup expenses...
Chill. No, I'm not blaming them at all for the ridiculously expensive health care costs. And perhaps, I should've worded my response better. I work in healthcare, and doctors salaries are not the reason for high costs. If doctors salaries do contribute to high healthcare costs, it's way, way down the list of reasons. I also didn't say that that's all doctors. I have several friends that are doctors and none of them are like that. I'd say 90% of doctors are in it for the patients. There are, however, doctors who have power trips and believe they should be paid absurd amounts of money. I've seen these people first hand. They're not really in it for patients or to make healthcare better.
5 hours a day 4.1 days a week 9 months outa the year and still get a yearly salary
they deserve the most?
jesus h christ. if you truly believe that teachers only work the hours that the kids are in the class, you don't have a clue.
I don't know if it's the same in the US, but in Canada teachers don't get a yearly salary. they get paid for the months they work. the summer months is unemployment, some get a summer job.
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
5 hours a day 4.1 days a week 9 months outa the year and still get a yearly salary
they deserve the most?
jesus h christ. if you truly believe that teachers only work the hours that the kids are in the class, you don't have a clue.
I don't know if it's the same in the US, but in Canada teachers don't get a yearly salary. they get paid for the months they work. the summer months is unemployment, some get a summer job.
Yeah, they don't get off near as much as the kids. Plus, they're there before kids get there and after they leave. Here they can choose to have their salary split up for the whole year or for the 9.5 month school year. Plus teachers have to put up with other peoples kids all day, every day. That's they worst part of teaching I'd think lol
5 hours a day 4.1 days a week 9 months outa the year and still get a yearly salary
they deserve the most?
jesus h christ. if you truly believe that teachers only work the hours that the kids are in the class, you don't have a clue.
I don't know if it's the same in the US, but in Canada teachers don't get a yearly salary. they get paid for the months they work. the summer months is unemployment, some get a summer job.
Yeah, they don't get off near as much as the kids. Plus, they're there before kids get there and after they leave. Here they can choose to have their salary split up for the whole year or for the 9.5 month school year. Plus teachers have to put up with other peoples kids all day, every day. That's they worst part of teaching I'd think lol
I feel bad for my oldest daughter's teacher. I asked him why she rarely gets homework (grade 5, in grade 4 she had homework nearly every day). he said with the size of his class (24), and with the problematic students he has, he simply does not have time. He says he feels terrible that he doesn't get to spend much time with my daughter, as she is one of the best students, but he still wishes he could have one on one time with her, but he has to do that with so many of the other problem kids that he simple runs out of time.
so even if he does only spend 6 hours a day in the class, it's still a much tougher day than my 8 hour stress-free day.
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
5 hours a day 4.1 days a week 9 months outa the year and still get a yearly salary
they deserve the most?
jesus h christ. if you truly believe that teachers only work the hours that the kids are in the class, you don't have a clue.
I don't know if it's the same in the US, but in Canada teachers don't get a yearly salary. they get paid for the months they work. the summer months is unemployment, some get a summer job.
Yeah, they don't get off near as much as the kids. Plus, they're there before kids get there and after they leave. Here they can choose to have their salary split up for the whole year or for the 9.5 month school year. Plus teachers have to put up with other peoples kids all day, every day. That's they worst part of teaching I'd think lol
Not to mention the take home work. Grading tests, homework, papers, lesson planning, reporting, etc. My sister is a high school English teacher. She works about 10 hours a day Monday thru Friday and often has work to do on the weekends.
Would like to know which school is only open 4.1 days a week? Or are you calculating in all those holidays that most other people get too?
You said 4.1 days 9 months out of the year. That math is wrong. So your 4.1 is a year average, taking into consideration they work 9 months. Most teachers have 185ish days, not 170. Most will work an average 9-10 hours on those days, not the 5 hours you suggested.
Most jobs get vacation/sick days and holidays off that can total anywhere from 4-6 weeks. Teachers get a little extra vacation, but don't get to chose when to take it. And work an extra 1-2 hours a day the rest of the year.
If they worked 4 days a week 9 months out of the year, for 5 hours a day as people who have no idea like to claim, that would be the most amazing job ever. But that is far from reality.
So lets do the math here. A typical public employee will work about 46 weeks out of the year (accounting for holidays and sick leave) at 8 hours a day. That's 1840 hours. And when that meeting runs an hour late, thats time and a half so they dont complain about over time. A teacher will work 185 days a year at 10 hours a day, that's 1850 hours. That doesn't take into account back to school night, parent conferences, open house, chaperoning dances/events, and other events they are "highly encouraged" to attend. Lets not forget that the admin and parents expect free tutoring from teachers as well, so they don't have to pay an outside tutor $50/hr.
I think you convinced, they have it too easy....
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Give them raises when they aren't in a union that overwhelmingly supports Democrats. They have an agenda to see that the students do the same, it ensures their survival.
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And by the way, he's been president less than 2 months, not 4 years
Republicans are terrified that someone who doesn't need help, is getting it.
Teabaggers are terrified that someone is getting help.
Trumpeteers are terrified.
This pretty well sums up conservatives: they formulate their worldview on anecdotal stories. Nothing is more anecdotal than winning the lottery.
New GOP Health Plan Devotes Six of 60+ Pages to Dealing With Lottery Winners’ Coverage
That's exactly what I would expect from the government party that gets paid to dismantle itself.
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The problem as I understand it in the US is that middle men in the insurance fields have entrenched themselves within the industry and profited.
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4.1 days a week
9 months outa the year
and still get a yearly salary
they deserve the most?
I don't know if it's the same in the US, but in Canada teachers don't get a yearly salary. they get paid for the months they work. the summer months is unemployment, some get a summer job.
-EV 8/14/93
Or are you calculating in all those holidays that most other people get too?
so even if he does only spend 6 hours a day in the class, it's still a much tougher day than my 8 hour stress-free day.
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So your 4.1 is a year average, taking into consideration they work 9 months.
Most teachers have 185ish days, not 170.
Most will work an average 9-10 hours on those days, not the 5 hours you suggested.
Most jobs get vacation/sick days and holidays off that can total anywhere from 4-6 weeks. Teachers get a little extra vacation, but don't get to chose when to take it. And work an extra 1-2 hours a day the rest of the year.
If they worked 4 days a week 9 months out of the year, for 5 hours a day as people who have no idea like to claim, that would be the most amazing job ever. But that is far from reality.
So lets do the math here. A typical public employee will work about 46 weeks out of the year (accounting for holidays and sick leave) at 8 hours a day. That's 1840 hours. And when that meeting runs an hour late, thats time and a half so they dont complain about over time. A teacher will work 185 days a year at 10 hours a day, that's 1850 hours. That doesn't take into account back to school night, parent conferences, open house, chaperoning dances/events, and other events they are "highly encouraged" to attend. Lets not forget that the admin and parents expect free tutoring from teachers as well, so they don't have to pay an outside tutor $50/hr.
I think you convinced, they have it too easy....