Springsteen at Australia Concert: 'We Stand Before You Embarrassed Americans'

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  • kce8
    kce8 Posts: 1,636
    OKAY....
    I'm one of the "badly informed" Europeans here... or maybe I better should say: one of them who should just relax in our country and enjoy ourselves rather than talk about things that we know nothing about (yeah :s thanks Godfather...) :D
    ...But... sorry man... that gave me a good laugh ... =) ... well, (I know you won't and that tells everything) but you should be embarrassed about that guy who is representing your country with a lot of great people in it in such an inglorious way!
    How much further does he has to go until you open your eyes hey?
    After reading 11 pages here today I am really shocked that you people standing behind trump are still not able to realise how the world is viewing. Ok, you might give a shit but I'm asking myself does he represent your personal behaviour? Is that what you want me to see? Doesn't you prefer to be taken seriously?
    Are all of you Trump supporters still ignorant and selfish? Just a general question. 

    Well I respect your own opinion, we Europeans can do that nowadays ;) that's the point about democracy. Ignorance doesn't fit. Selfishness doesn't help. Trying to make things better for everybody is the key. The trumpet doesn't represent that. He does not care about you people! He does not care about freedom, peace, environment or the poor people. He is lying openly every single freaking f..g day! He is destroying the fragile economic equilibrium and partnerships around the world. He is not representing your country well! You know that! I hope you know that!

    And what kind of patriot is leaving the country to go to Europe while Obama was around? Wrong place for Obama haters here! :lol: 

    By the way,  I enjoy Eddies opinions most of the time, because he is honest, bringing it straight up! I even don't have to agree at all. I think it's already good for getting people into conversation, sharing their own opinions and hopefully make them thinking in different ways too. You don't have to change your mind, you just have to be open to see through other peoples eyes. If he only reaches people to broaden one's horizons he already did something good. We need those people. Music has always carried politics, statements every kind of feelings. 
    You want to give up one of your favourite musician just because he doesn't share your opinion? Well.. that's just a mystery to me - but still your own convincement! 
    Buck: I don’t disagree politically with Bruce- I think it is in poor taste to go to other country bad mouthing the United States.  Again make a statement at the voting booth, not in a different country. Fair enough, but I still would be honest too about the wrong decisions my government made or things which are going wrong here in Europe. So you don't need to hide what's going wrong in your country - that is not bad patriotism!

    I don't get it.. you don't disagree politically with Bruce but support the trumpet? I must have gotten something wrong... 
    I'm curious... :) Just smile and don't care about what BS said. Then go and see PJ and after that join some good conversations about Eddies comments here. 
    Be open people!

    Ok, feel free to react honestly! ;)
  • kce8 said:
    OKAY....
    I'm one of the "badly informed" Europeans here... or maybe I better should say: one of them who should just relax in our country and enjoy ourselves rather than talk about things that we know nothing about (yeah :s thanks Godfather...) :D
    ...But... sorry man... that gave me a good laugh ... =) ... well, (I know you won't and that tells everything) but you should be embarrassed about that guy who is representing your country with a lot of great people in it in such an inglorious way!
    How much further does he has to go until you open your eyes hey?
    After reading 11 pages here today I am really shocked that you people standing behind trump are still not able to realise how the world is viewing. Ok, you might give a shit but I'm asking myself does he represent your personal behaviour? Is that what you want me to see? Doesn't you prefer to be taken seriously?
    Are all of you Trump supporters still ignorant and selfish? Just a general question. 

    Well I respect your own opinion, we Europeans can do that nowadays ;) that's the point about democracy. Ignorance doesn't fit. Selfishness doesn't help. Trying to make things better for everybody is the key. The trumpet doesn't represent that. He does not care about you people! He does not care about freedom, peace, environment or the poor people. He is lying openly every single freaking f..g day! He is destroying the fragile economic equilibrium and partnerships around the world. He is not representing your country well! You know that! I hope you know that!

    And what kind of patriot is leaving the country to go to Europe while Obama was around? Wrong place for Obama haters here! :lol: 

    By the way,  I enjoy Eddies opinions most of the time, because he is honest, bringing it straight up! I even don't have to agree at all. I think it's already good for getting people into conversation, sharing their own opinions and hopefully make them thinking in different ways too. You don't have to change your mind, you just have to be open to see through other peoples eyes. If he only reaches people to broaden one's horizons he already did something good. We need those people. Music has always carried politics, statements every kind of feelings. 
    You want to give up one of your favourite musician just because he doesn't share your opinion? Well.. that's just a mystery to me - but still your own convincement! 
    Buck: I don’t disagree politically with Bruce- I think it is in poor taste to go to other country bad mouthing the United States.  Again make a statement at the voting booth, not in a different country. Fair enough, but I still would be honest too about the wrong decisions my government made or things which are going wrong here in Europe. So you don't need to hide what's going wrong in your country - that is not bad patriotism!

    I don't get it.. you don't disagree politically with Bruce but support the trumpet? I must have gotten something wrong... 
    I'm curious... :) Just smile and don't care about what BS said. Then go and see PJ and after that join some good conversations about Eddies comments here. 
    Be open people!

    Ok, feel free to react honestly! ;)

    The truth hurts. And it is an entertaining circus for sure!
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • RiotZact
    RiotZact Posts: 6,293
    Really ^^^^^ I’m not a big Boss fan but he def doesn’t suck , what will you say when Vedder starts his rants on this bafoon on the upcoming Europeing tour ? 
    Ed won’t.
    "I wish I was the President...I'd apologize to the French....Most of the things Bush said were lies........Americas been hypnotized."

    Marseille, France 2006

    One of many examples, I assume.
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    edited January 2018
    You think Ed won't talk shit about trump on stage in 2018? In Europe???? No politically charged songs? 

    You're fucking off your rocker

    Don't shoot your Benny when he does, send it to this libtard hippie to spin, spin, spin... because I'll tell ya straight up trump is a piece of shit lol
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  • mcgruff10 said:
    no, I am going to make a video of me shooting them with my AK.
    The ak is the weapon of communists. At least use an ar to represent 'Merica.

    While the Soviet Avtomat Kalashnikova has become the iconic weapon of bad guys in Hollywood blockbusters and big-budget video games, U.S. commandos made good use of the rugged rifles in Vietnam.

    By the end of the conflict, the American military had reissued captured Ak-47s, made new ammunition for them and came up with a few other surprises.

    It’s often because the commandos hated their own U.S.-made guns.

    https://medium.com/war-is-boring/u-s-commandos-had-a-love-affair-with-captured-ak-47s-87ab1e4ae2c1


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"

  • Really ^^^^^ I’m not a big Boss fan but he def doesn’t suck , what will you say when Vedder starts his rants on this bafoon on the upcoming Europeing tour ? 
    Ed won’t.

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"

  • Really ^^^^^ I’m not a big Boss fan but he def doesn’t suck , what will you say when Vedder starts his rants on this bafoon on the upcoming Europeing tour ? 
    Ed won’t.


    lol
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,133
    mcgruff10 said:
    no, I am going to make a video of me shooting them with my AK.
    The ak is the weapon of communists. At least use an ar to represent 'Merica.

    While the Soviet Avtomat Kalashnikova has become the iconic weapon of bad guys in Hollywood blockbusters and big-budget video games, U.S. commandos made good use of the rugged rifles in Vietnam.

    By the end of the conflict, the American military had reissued captured Ak-47s, made new ammunition for them and came up with a few other surprises.

    It’s often because the commandos hated their own U.S.-made guns.

    https://medium.com/war-is-boring/u-s-commandos-had-a-love-affair-with-captured-ak-47s-87ab1e4ae2c1


    Ok let's not get in a gun debate here but the reason why the u.s. troops hated the m-16 at first is because they were prone to jamming.  After some modifications they were a ok.  But soldiers definitely did like the ak-47 during vietnam because you could bury that rifle in the mud for 8 months, dig it out and shoot all 30 rounds with no jamming issues at all.  m-16's are far more accurate compared to the ak-47 hence the "spray and pray" phrase adopted by troops.  
    but yes the ak is definitely communist as it was the weapon of choice for china, the soviet union, north vietnam, etc.  the u.s. never adopted the ak-47 for their military.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • buck502000
    buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    I love you guys
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,590
    Really ^^^^^ I’m not a big Boss fan but he def doesn’t suck , what will you say when Vedder starts his rants on this bafoon on the upcoming Europeing tour ? 
    Ed won’t.
    He already has

  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,590

  • buck502000
    buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    I was at Ft.Lauderdale - he didn’t  say shit. He played I am a patriot and did special thanks to all the war vets.  I even missed the mask bit and didn’t even realize it had occurred. 
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,853
    Really ^^^^^ I’m not a big Boss fan but he def doesn’t suck , what will you say when Vedder starts his rants on this bafoon on the upcoming Europeing tour ? 
    Yeah he sucks. My opinion. Music is subjective.

    i don’t care what any artist says on stage...they’ve earned their stage/mic and can say what they want.

    and I’m pretty embarrassed to have trump as my president as well.

    But then again, I’ll never have to hear Bruce rant from stage cause his music sucks and I won’t go to the show. ;)
    hippiemom = goodness
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Almost everybody is embarrassed that Trump is our president.... almost everybody 
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    I sure am, as I've been saying, I can handle disagreements in ideology...I can't handle his moronism. 

    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,133
    rgambs said:
    I sure am, as I've been saying, I can handle disagreements in ideology...I can't handle his moronism. 

    Agreed. And to think we could possibly have another seven years with this guy. Ugh
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,708
    mcgruff10 said:
    rgambs said:
    I sure am, as I've been saying, I can handle disagreements in ideology...I can't handle his moronism. 

    Agreed. And to think we could possibly have another seven years with this guy. Ugh
    Ughh is right the damages will almost be insurmountable I’m not saying only a Democrat president can right this ship but it will take a Middle of the road Republican to get back from the mess this bafoon is sure to leave behind!!
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,720
    my2hands said:
    my2hands said:
    no, I am going to make a video of me shooting them with my AK.
    Just what this country needs, another pissed off guy with a gun and a video camera lol

    I hope you're not going to see Pearl Jam in 2018 my friend
    I ain’t mad. I am just proud I can actually do this if so choose to ;)
    You are showing you disagree with someone politically by shooting at symbols that represent them

    I think that's really poor taste, and something we need a little less of in this country in my opinion
    I guess I could just burn them instead. I don’t disagree pollitically with Bruce- I think it is in poor taste to go to other country bad mouthing the United States.  Again make a statement at the voting booth, not in a different country.
    Why don't you not waste shit, and give them to someone who can enjoy them FFS? Or sell them to a used record store?
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,512
    edited January 2018
    Acting like Bruce has some obligations to some stupid country of all things and aren't allowed to be embarrassed by all the stupid things that is happening... haha. Get your head out of your childish nationalism-ass.

    Bruce doesn't need to say he's embarrassed though. All sane people would be.

     





    Just let Bruce be Bruce. And you can be you.
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"