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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111

    mcgruff10 said:

    PP193448 said:

    PP193448 said:

    Forget the wall. Fix the current system that doesn't work. Revamp the welfare system and immigration. If your not a citizen, you don't get free anything. If you are a criminal you get deported. Stop the fleecing of American generosity. Oh and that applies to the citizens of this country too. Change welfare into workfare. If immigrants have children here that instantly become US citizens because they were born here, then allow them to go through the process to become legal citizens. Encourage them to be responsible citizens and help pay their dues, including taxes. There are many people that don't do this. It's a growing problem. It's not going to fix itself. But building a wall will not solve anything. It will just temporize the problem. Stop government incompetency. This obviously would include Trump.

    I agree & would add if you are an illegal immigrant and want legal status you should be mandated to serve in the armed forces for 4 yrs to gain legal status ..
    I'm not sure of a mandate, but this could be a viable option...
    Yeah... Cause what you want in your armed forces are people who are there involuntarily.

    Me being an immigrant and knowing exactly how it feels not to be documented I'd say slot of young folks would voluntarily go for it , i said the government should say to illegals if you want path to citizenship you have to serve for 4 yrs otherwise you will stand to be deported if caught by immigration dept ....
    Where are you from Jose?
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    So what do we do with these illegal immigrants?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mcgruff10 said:

    So what do we do with these illegal immigrants?

    Sheriff Arapio needs something to do.
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  • tbergs
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    mcgruff10 said:

    So what do we do with these illegal immigrants?

    Sheriff Arapio needs something to do.
    Poor racist is out of a job. Hopefully he's not much longer for this world. The last of the birther conspirators and true asshole.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,489

    mcgruff10 said:

    PP193448 said:

    PP193448 said:

    Forget the wall. Fix the current system that doesn't work. Revamp the welfare system and immigration. If your not a citizen, you don't get free anything. If you are a criminal you get deported. Stop the fleecing of American generosity. Oh and that applies to the citizens of this country too. Change welfare into workfare. If immigrants have children here that instantly become US citizens because they were born here, then allow them to go through the process to become legal citizens. Encourage them to be responsible citizens and help pay their dues, including taxes. There are many people that don't do this. It's a growing problem. It's not going to fix itself. But building a wall will not solve anything. It will just temporize the problem. Stop government incompetency. This obviously would include Trump.

    I agree & would add if you are an illegal immigrant and want legal status you should be mandated to serve in the armed forces for 4 yrs to gain legal status ..
    I'm not sure of a mandate, but this could be a viable option...
    Yeah... Cause what you want in your armed forces are people who are there involuntarily.

    Me being an immigrant and knowing exactly how it feels not to be documented I'd say slot of young folks would voluntarily go for it , i said the government should say to illegals if you want path to citizenship you have to serve for 4 yrs otherwise you will stand to be deported if caught by immigration dept ....
    Where are you from Jose?
    Chile
    one of my oldest friends is from there. we went to grade school & jr high together here in the states. Now, he's back there...and I need to get down there for a visit!
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003

    crossing ANY countries boarder is a CRIME civil or not, stop with the blind defense already.

    Not true... people cross borders all the time and NONE of them is engaging in a criminal act in doing so... In fact I am just about to cross 'your' border within a fortnight and I can guarantee I am committing no crime in doing so.

    do you have a passport ?....if not then you are breaking OUR laws, you must have some legal documents to legally enter the US.
    pretty simple really, anybody who enters the US without proper papers or citizenship is breaking our laws, law

    godfather, you said crossing ANY country's border is a crime civil or not....

    you didnt qualify that statement with anything about breaking our laws nor was there any other stipulation. you simply saidcrossing ANY countrys border is a crime. i was merely pointing out the frivolity of your statement. i am addressing the particular statement of yours i cited. best be more careful how you word your responses. ;)

    oh and for the record, merely having a passport doesnt mean one can enter a foreign country, yours included simply because one wants to, nor does having the 'proper papers'... but you knew that, right?

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  • catefrances
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    but hay I hear California want's to break away from the US and surrender to Canada...

    maybe cali could be absorbed back into mexico.... theres some poetic justice for you. ;):)

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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003

    Good thing these walls weren't in place when your ancestors arrived here or turned away at airport or at the ship dock !

    LOL !!!! that's funny, My ancestors didn't come here to leach off the system, use terroristic violence and demand Americans change their culture and beliefs to suit ours, that wall is more than just to detour Mexican people there are also isis scum using the Mexican/American border to come here and commit crimes..among others.

    revisionist history. as usual.

    the fearful right strikes again.
    more like the Fearless Right...as usual but if that's your opinion I would guess you live in denial or Canada. LOL !


    the fearless don't need to stockpile weapons and build walls to keep out the "bad dudes" (AKA: brown people).

    yes, I live in canada.
    ever heard the phrase " peace thru superior fire power " ? it's true.
    otherwise all these third world countries wouldn't be asking the US for money to buy weapons and if you are talking about the right s of individuals gun owners......well my Canadian friend you may as well stay in Canada because Americans will never give up that right, especially just to appease liberals LOL !

    are you serious? peace through superior fire power??? what is this, the wild west??? arms sales are used to destabilise countries that are resource rich or have some level of strategic import. its got nothing to do with peace... or a perceived outcome of peace... thats not the game being played here.

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  • but hay I hear California want's to break away from the US and surrender to Canada...

    maybe cali could be absorbed back into mexico.... theres some poetic justice for you. ;):)

    I prefer it be Texas.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,553
    Arrived here 1971 legal tourist visa but we overstayed illegal
    mcgruff10 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    PP193448 said:

    PP193448 said:

    Forget the wall. Fix the current system that doesn't work. Revamp the welfare system and immigration. If your not a citizen, you don't get free anything. If you are a criminal you get deported. Stop the fleecing of American generosity. Oh and that applies to the citizens of this country too. Change welfare into workfare. If immigrants have children here that instantly become US citizens because they were born here, then allow them to go through the process to become legal citizens. Encourage them to be responsible citizens and help pay their dues, including taxes. There are many people that don't do this. It's a growing problem. It's not going to fix itself. But building a wall will not solve anything. It will just temporize the problem. Stop government incompetency. This obviously would include Trump.

    I agree & would add if you are an illegal immigrant and want legal status you should be mandated to serve in the armed forces for 4 yrs to gain legal status ..
    I'm not sure of a mandate, but this could be a viable option...
    Yeah... Cause what you want in your armed forces are people who are there involuntarily.

    Me being an immigrant and knowing exactly how it feels not to be documented I'd say slot of young folks would voluntarily go for it , i said the government should say to illegals if you want path to citizenship you have to serve for 4 yrs otherwise you will stand to be deported if caught by immigration dept ....
    Where are you from Jose?
    Chile
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    Thanks bro glad to be here !
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,553
    mfc2006 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    PP193448 said:

    PP193448 said:

    Forget the wall. Fix the current system that doesn't work. Revamp the welfare system and immigration. If your not a citizen, you don't get free anything. If you are a criminal you get deported. Stop the fleecing of American generosity. Oh and that applies to the citizens of this country too. Change welfare into workfare. If immigrants have children here that instantly become US citizens because they were born here, then allow them to go through the process to become legal citizens. Encourage them to be responsible citizens and help pay their dues, including taxes. There are many people that don't do this. It's a growing problem. It's not going to fix itself. But building a wall will not solve anything. It will just temporize the problem. Stop government incompetency. This obviously would include Trump.

    I agree & would add if you are an illegal immigrant and want legal status you should be mandated to serve in the armed forces for 4 yrs to gain legal status ..
    I'm not sure of a mandate, but this could be a viable option...
    Yeah... Cause what you want in your armed forces are people who are there involuntarily.

    Me being an immigrant and knowing exactly how it feels not to be documented I'd say slot of young folks would voluntarily go for it , i said the government should say to illegals if you want path to citizenship you have to serve for 4 yrs otherwise you will stand to be deported if caught by immigration dept ....
    Where are you from Jose?
    Chile
    one of my oldest friends is from there. we went to grade school & jr high together here in the states. Now, he's back there...and I need to get down there for a visit!
    You should it's an awesome country as far as natural beauty is concerned awesome coastline & monumental mountain range !
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003

    but hay I hear California want's to break away from the US and surrender to Canada...

    maybe cali could be absorbed back into mexico.... theres some poetic justice for you. ;):)

    I prefer it be Texas.
    heck why not both??? lol

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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,553
    Forgot to mention me & everyone of my immediate family are American citizens we all hold American passports !
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003

    mfc2006 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    PP193448 said:

    PP193448 said:

    Forget the wall. Fix the current system that doesn't work. Revamp the welfare system and immigration. If your not a citizen, you don't get free anything. If you are a criminal you get deported. Stop the fleecing of American generosity. Oh and that applies to the citizens of this country too. Change welfare into workfare. If immigrants have children here that instantly become US citizens because they were born here, then allow them to go through the process to become legal citizens. Encourage them to be responsible citizens and help pay their dues, including taxes. There are many people that don't do this. It's a growing problem. It's not going to fix itself. But building a wall will not solve anything. It will just temporize the problem. Stop government incompetency. This obviously would include Trump.

    I agree & would add if you are an illegal immigrant and want legal status you should be mandated to serve in the armed forces for 4 yrs to gain legal status ..
    I'm not sure of a mandate, but this could be a viable option...
    Yeah... Cause what you want in your armed forces are people who are there involuntarily.

    Me being an immigrant and knowing exactly how it feels not to be documented I'd say slot of young folks would voluntarily go for it , i said the government should say to illegals if you want path to citizenship you have to serve for 4 yrs otherwise you will stand to be deported if caught by immigration dept ....
    Where are you from Jose?
    Chile
    one of my oldest friends is from there. we went to grade school & jr high together here in the states. Now, he's back there...and I need to get down there for a visit!
    You should it's an awesome country as far as natural beauty is concerned awesome coastline & monumental mountain range !
    plus they make a mean pinot in chile.... :)

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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111

    mfc2006 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    PP193448 said:

    PP193448 said:

    Forget the wall. Fix the current system that doesn't work. Revamp the welfare system and immigration. If your not a citizen, you don't get free anything. If you are a criminal you get deported. Stop the fleecing of American generosity. Oh and that applies to the citizens of this country too. Change welfare into workfare. If immigrants have children here that instantly become US citizens because they were born here, then allow them to go through the process to become legal citizens. Encourage them to be responsible citizens and help pay their dues, including taxes. There are many people that don't do this. It's a growing problem. It's not going to fix itself. But building a wall will not solve anything. It will just temporize the problem. Stop government incompetency. This obviously would include Trump.

    I agree & would add if you are an illegal immigrant and want legal status you should be mandated to serve in the armed forces for 4 yrs to gain legal status ..
    I'm not sure of a mandate, but this could be a viable option...
    Yeah... Cause what you want in your armed forces are people who are there involuntarily.

    Me being an immigrant and knowing exactly how it feels not to be documented I'd say slot of young folks would voluntarily go for it , i said the government should say to illegals if you want path to citizenship you have to serve for 4 yrs otherwise you will stand to be deported if caught by immigration dept ....
    Where are you from Jose?
    Chile
    one of my oldest friends is from there. we went to grade school & jr high together here in the states. Now, he's back there...and I need to get down there for a visit!
    You should it's an awesome country as far as natural beauty is concerned awesome coastline & monumental mountain range !
    I came within a day of snowboarding at Portillo for a week. Sadly they called us the day before and said there was no snow. Argh
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  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    fuck your wall mr trump. fuck your wall

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPo2B-vjZ28
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,397
    vaggar99 said:

    fuck your wall mr trump. fuck your wall

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPo2B-vjZ28

    Thanks for posting that

    And thanks to 84Lumber as well
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    vaggar99 said:

    fuck your wall mr trump. fuck your wall

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPo2B-vjZ28

    Came here to post this. Great stuff.
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    vaggar99 said:

    fuck your wall mr trump. fuck your wall

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPo2B-vjZ28

    What a beautiful work of fiction.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    PJPOWER said:

    vaggar99 said:

    fuck your wall mr trump. fuck your wall

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPo2B-vjZ28

    What a beautiful work of fiction.
    Holy shit, I thought it was a documentary. Thanks for the heads up.