The Great Southern Wall

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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    my2hands said:

    When did the right wing of this country become a bunch of scared fearful wusses? The guys that try to act the toughest are actually the biggest wussies of them all. It's embarrassing

    You guys are scared of everybody... except apparently well armed white people with mental health issues. You'll build a drive thru windows for them to buy an AR-15... speaking of national security *ahem*


    The right wing have always been wussies cause they hide behind the 2nd amendment as if it were incontrovertible truth. They can't seem to grasp the fact that history moves on and the climate in which the 2nd amendment was written no longer exists and hasn't done so for quite some time... Yet they cleve to it like a baby grasping it's rattle.
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,400
    I'm sorry this off topic, but I can't get past this thread title without thinking of Pantera. I keep wanting to change it to Great Southern Trendkill. Even some of the lyrics apply.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    crossing ANY countries boarder is a CRIME civil or not, stop with the blind defense already.

    Not true... people cross borders all the time and NONE of them is engaging in a criminal act in doing so... In fact I am just about to cross 'your' border within a fortnight and I can guarantee I am committing no crime in doing so.

    do you have a passport ?....if not then you are breaking OUR laws, you must have some legal documents to legally enter the US.
    pretty simple really, anybody who enters the US without proper papers or citizenship is breaking our laws, law

  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    tbergs said:

    I'm sorry this off topic, but I can't get past this thread title without thinking of Pantera. I keep wanting to change it to Great Southern Trendkill. Even some of the lyrics apply.

    awesome ! I don't know a lot about Pantera but a fan non the less, I don't know the song you are referring to

  • PP193448 said:

    PP193448 said:

    PP193448 said:

    Forget the wall. Fix the current system that doesn't work. Revamp the welfare system and immigration. If your not a citizen, you don't get free anything. If you are a criminal you get deported. Stop the fleecing of American generosity. Oh and that applies to the citizens of this country too. Change welfare into workfare. If immigrants have children here that instantly become US citizens because they were born here, then allow them to go through the process to become legal citizens. Encourage them to be responsible citizens and help pay their dues, including taxes. There are many people that don't do this. It's a growing problem. It's not going to fix itself. But building a wall will not solve anything. It will just temporize the problem. Stop government incompetency. This obviously would include Trump.

    I agree & would add if you are an illegal immigrant and want legal status you should be mandated to serve in the armed forces for 4 yrs to gain legal status ..
    I'm not sure of a mandate, but this could be a viable option...
    Yeah... Cause what you want in your armed forces are people who are there involuntarily.

    Yeah, that's why I said not sure about a mandate. But yeah, it could be an option for people who WANT to do it as a path to citizenship in the US. Because we should not involuntarily keep payng taxes for our government to support these individuals who aren't citizens.
    It's not an option. Fight our bullshit wars and we'll make you a citizen???? Come on that's ridiculous.

    I think a country has the right to expect potential citizens to be prepared to contribute.

    It might not necessarily be in the army, but if they can doctor or teach or contribute in another meaningful way... that would qualify. I don't think a country should be expected to just accept anyone because they show up.

    With that said... the wall will prove to be useless. People that are advocating for it right now have consistently complained about misspending on the part of government. They need to figure out exactly which principles they truly stand for.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,450

    Good thing these walls weren't in place when your ancestors arrived here or turned away at airport or at the ship dock !

    LOL !!!! that's funny, My ancestors didn't come here to leach off the system, use terroristic violence and demand Americans change their culture and beliefs to suit ours, that wall is more than just to detour Mexican people there are also isis scum using the Mexican/American border to come here and commit crimes..among others.

    revisionist history. as usual.

    the fearful right strikes again.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    Good thing these walls weren't in place when your ancestors arrived here or turned away at airport or at the ship dock !

    LOL !!!! that's funny, My ancestors didn't come here to leach off the system, use terroristic violence and demand Americans change their culture and beliefs to suit ours, that wall is more than just to detour Mexican people there are also isis scum using the Mexican/American border to come here and commit crimes..among others.

    revisionist history. as usual.

    the fearful right strikes again.
    more like the Fearless Right...as usual but if that's your opinion I would guess you live in denial or Canada. LOL !


  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,450

    Good thing these walls weren't in place when your ancestors arrived here or turned away at airport or at the ship dock !

    LOL !!!! that's funny, My ancestors didn't come here to leach off the system, use terroristic violence and demand Americans change their culture and beliefs to suit ours, that wall is more than just to detour Mexican people there are also isis scum using the Mexican/American border to come here and commit crimes..among others.

    revisionist history. as usual.

    the fearful right strikes again.
    more like the Fearless Right...as usual but if that's your opinion I would guess you live in denial or Canada. LOL !


    the fearless don't need to stockpile weapons and build walls to keep out the "bad dudes" (AKA: brown people).

    yes, I live in canada.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    Good thing these walls weren't in place when your ancestors arrived here or turned away at airport or at the ship dock !

    LOL !!!! that's funny, My ancestors didn't come here to leach off the system, use terroristic violence and demand Americans change their culture and beliefs to suit ours, that wall is more than just to detour Mexican people there are also isis scum using the Mexican/American border to come here and commit crimes..among others.

    revisionist history. as usual.

    the fearful right strikes again.
    more like the Fearless Right...as usual but if that's your opinion I would guess you live in denial or Canada. LOL !


    the fearless don't need to stockpile weapons and build walls to keep out the "bad dudes" (AKA: brown people).

    yes, I live in canada.
    ever heard the phrase " peace thru superior fire power " ? it's true.
    otherwise all these third world countries wouldn't be asking the US for money to buy weapons and if you are talking about the right s of individuals gun owners......well my Canadian friend you may as well stay in Canada because Americans will never give up that right, especially just to appease liberals LOL !

  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    but hay I hear California want's to break away from the US and surrender to Canada...
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Canada has not maintained and possessed weapons of mass destruction since 1984 and, as of 1998, has signed treaties repudiating possession of them. Canada ratified the Geneva Protocol in 1930 and the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty in 1970, but still sanctions contributions to American military programs.

    guess who has your back ? that's right amigo it's us gun owning, nuclear bearing, wild eyed American's ! HAHAHAHHAHAH !

    a little humor for the weekend.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,450

    Good thing these walls weren't in place when your ancestors arrived here or turned away at airport or at the ship dock !

    LOL !!!! that's funny, My ancestors didn't come here to leach off the system, use terroristic violence and demand Americans change their culture and beliefs to suit ours, that wall is more than just to detour Mexican people there are also isis scum using the Mexican/American border to come here and commit crimes..among others.

    revisionist history. as usual.

    the fearful right strikes again.
    more like the Fearless Right...as usual but if that's your opinion I would guess you live in denial or Canada. LOL !


    the fearless don't need to stockpile weapons and build walls to keep out the "bad dudes" (AKA: brown people).

    yes, I live in canada.
    ever heard the phrase " peace thru superior fire power " ? it's true.
    otherwise all these third world countries wouldn't be asking the US for money to buy weapons and if you are talking about the right s of individuals gun owners......well my Canadian friend you may as well stay in Canada because Americans will never give up that right, especially just to appease liberals LOL !

    plenty of peaceful countries, actually, most, do not require the weaponry that the US does. it's all about money. it's got nothing to do with peace. that's you believing government propaganda.

    I have no intention on moving away from canada.

    nor do I wish for gun owners to surrender their right to own one. that's the fearful right's rhetoric on how to keep their ignorant base voting for them.
    Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall




  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    Good thing these walls weren't in place when your ancestors arrived here or turned away at airport or at the ship dock !

    LOL !!!! that's funny, My ancestors didn't come here to leach off the system, use terroristic violence and demand Americans change their culture and beliefs to suit ours, that wall is more than just to detour Mexican people there are also isis scum using the Mexican/American border to come here and commit crimes..among others.

    revisionist history. as usual.

    the fearful right strikes again.
    more like the Fearless Right...as usual but if that's your opinion I would guess you live in denial or Canada. LOL !


    the fearless don't need to stockpile weapons and build walls to keep out the "bad dudes" (AKA: brown people).

    yes, I live in canada.
    ever heard the phrase " peace thru superior fire power " ? it's true.
    otherwise all these third world countries wouldn't be asking the US for money to buy weapons and if you are talking about the right s of individuals gun owners......well my Canadian friend you may as well stay in Canada because Americans will never give up that right, especially just to appease liberals LOL !

    plenty of peaceful countries, actually, most, do not require the weaponry that the US does. it's all about money. it's got nothing to do with peace. that's you believing government propaganda.

    I have no intention on moving away from canada.

    nor do I wish for gun owners to surrender their right to own one. that's the fearful right's rhetoric on how to keep their ignorant base voting for them.
    peace would be a great thing to have world wide, someday.

  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    https://youtu.be/0L7UPnQPw8M


    Oh, shit. Well I guess that wall will really make the illegals learn to work together at least!

    Or buy a ladder.
    Or a shovel.
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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    rgambs said:

    https://youtu.be/0L7UPnQPw8M


    Oh, shit. Well I guess that wall will really make the illegals learn to work together at least!

    Or buy a ladder.
    Or a shovel.

  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,236
    Once that Great Wall is built that the US will pay for there won't be ANY money left to patrol the border. Therefore, using ladders, tunneling would be more able to be accomplished. Using the BILLIONS it will cost to construct this GW, use it to strengthen our infrastructure which is falling apart as we speak.

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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    CM189191 said:

    rgambs said:

    https://youtu.be/0L7UPnQPw8M


    Oh, shit. Well I guess that wall will really make the illegals learn to work together at least!

    Or buy a ladder.
    Or a shovel.

    Haha.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,553

    PP193448 said:

    PP193448 said:

    Forget the wall. Fix the current system that doesn't work. Revamp the welfare system and immigration. If your not a citizen, you don't get free anything. If you are a criminal you get deported. Stop the fleecing of American generosity. Oh and that applies to the citizens of this country too. Change welfare into workfare. If immigrants have children here that instantly become US citizens because they were born here, then allow them to go through the process to become legal citizens. Encourage them to be responsible citizens and help pay their dues, including taxes. There are many people that don't do this. It's a growing problem. It's not going to fix itself. But building a wall will not solve anything. It will just temporize the problem. Stop government incompetency. This obviously would include Trump.

    I agree & would add if you are an illegal immigrant and want legal status you should be mandated to serve in the armed forces for 4 yrs to gain legal status ..
    I'm not sure of a mandate, but this could be a viable option...
    Yeah... Cause what you want in your armed forces are people who are there involuntarily.

    Me being an immigrant and knowing exactly how it feels not to be documented I'd say slot of young folks would voluntarily go for it , i said the government should say to illegals if you want path to citizenship you have to serve for 4 yrs otherwise you will stand to be deported if caught by immigration dept ....
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111

    PP193448 said:

    PP193448 said:

    Forget the wall. Fix the current system that doesn't work. Revamp the welfare system and immigration. If your not a citizen, you don't get free anything. If you are a criminal you get deported. Stop the fleecing of American generosity. Oh and that applies to the citizens of this country too. Change welfare into workfare. If immigrants have children here that instantly become US citizens because they were born here, then allow them to go through the process to become legal citizens. Encourage them to be responsible citizens and help pay their dues, including taxes. There are many people that don't do this. It's a growing problem. It's not going to fix itself. But building a wall will not solve anything. It will just temporize the problem. Stop government incompetency. This obviously would include Trump.

    I agree & would add if you are an illegal immigrant and want legal status you should be mandated to serve in the armed forces for 4 yrs to gain legal status ..
    I'm not sure of a mandate, but this could be a viable option...
    Yeah... Cause what you want in your armed forces are people who are there involuntarily.

    Me being an immigrant and knowing exactly how it feels not to be documented I'd say slot of young folks would voluntarily go for it , i said the government should say to illegals if you want path to citizenship you have to serve for 4 yrs otherwise you will stand to be deported if caught by immigration dept ....
    Where are you from Jose?
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,553
    mcgruff10 said:

    PP193448 said:

    PP193448 said:

    Forget the wall. Fix the current system that doesn't work. Revamp the welfare system and immigration. If your not a citizen, you don't get free anything. If you are a criminal you get deported. Stop the fleecing of American generosity. Oh and that applies to the citizens of this country too. Change welfare into workfare. If immigrants have children here that instantly become US citizens because they were born here, then allow them to go through the process to become legal citizens. Encourage them to be responsible citizens and help pay their dues, including taxes. There are many people that don't do this. It's a growing problem. It's not going to fix itself. But building a wall will not solve anything. It will just temporize the problem. Stop government incompetency. This obviously would include Trump.

    I agree & would add if you are an illegal immigrant and want legal status you should be mandated to serve in the armed forces for 4 yrs to gain legal status ..
    I'm not sure of a mandate, but this could be a viable option...
    Yeah... Cause what you want in your armed forces are people who are there involuntarily.

    Me being an immigrant and knowing exactly how it feels not to be documented I'd say slot of young folks would voluntarily go for it , i said the government should say to illegals if you want path to citizenship you have to serve for 4 yrs otherwise you will stand to be deported if caught by immigration dept ....
    Where are you from Jose?
    Chile
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