Richard Spencer

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  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    The assailant has quite the history of extracurricular activity.

    Regardless of his history... he gets a t-shirt for this vulgar display of power.
    And of course he would never square up, instead a cheap shot and run.
    Would you ever square up? Me thinks not.
    To who?
    the overlords who seek to take your guns and property.
    If it becomes necessary.
    puhlease.

    the overlords will come at you with an armored police carrier and you would resist?

    best of luck to you in that situation.

    actually, obama never came after you for anything. do you really think trump will?

    we should consider this the golden age for those that hate the government. they are completely emboldened.
    Some people die for things that they believe in.
    That doesn't make you a hero. You're not a hero because you die for what you believe in. I like people who don't die.
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,821
    trumps America....

    Virginia Confederate Protest Likened to 'KKK'-Style Event
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,171
    I wish the more accurate term of white supremacist was used instead of white nationalist.
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,876
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,171
    tbergs said:
    I wonder how many of the right wing domestic terrorists are Christian?
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,337
    I wish the more accurate term of white supremacist was used instead of white nationalist.
    Exactly. Let's start calling it what it really is.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,283
    gotta stay relevant somehow I guess....
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  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    tbergs said:
    That article has been re-hashed a dozen times.

    What do you want me to say about it?
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    dignin said:
    I wish the more accurate term of white supremacist was used instead of white nationalist.
    Exactly. Let's start calling it what it really is.
    They are.  There is a difference.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,350
    unsung said:
    dignin said:
    I wish the more accurate term of white supremacist was used instead of white nationalist.
    Exactly. Let's start calling it what it really is.
    They are.  There is a difference.
    yeah, a white nationalist is a cowardly white supremacist . 
    "Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk"
    -EV  8/14/93




  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,350
    edited May 2017
    white nationalist:
    "what...me? of course! I LOOOOOVE black people......I just don't want them around, is all....but yeah, love em, love em to DEATH"
    "Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk"
    -EV  8/14/93




  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Drama much?
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    So you believe in forced association?
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,821
    unsung said:
    So you believe in forced association?
    WoW!  :o

  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,350
    it's not drama. that's it, in a nutshell. 
    "Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk"
    -EV  8/14/93




  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,350
    unsung said:
    So you believe in forced association?
    or what normal people call it: not being a dick
    "Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk"
    -EV  8/14/93




  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    edited May 2017
    unsung said:
    So you believe in forced association?
    or what normal people call it: not being a dick
    Not at all.

    The entire history of the World people have migrated over the globe and associated with others that were like minded or whom worked together through trade or other interactions.

    Are you saying that this practice should stop and instead have government say who lives where?  

    Shouldn't association with others remain voluntary?
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,350
    unsung said:
    unsung said:
    So you believe in forced association?
    or what normal people call it: not being a dick
    Not at all.

    The entire history of the World people have migrated over the globe and associated with others that were like minded or whom worked together through trade or other interactions.

    Are you saying that this practice should stop and instead have government say who lives where?  

    Shouldn't association with others remain voluntary?
    of course it should. I think we might have different undestandings of what forced association means. it actually can mean a whole host of things depending on context. for instance, some disagree with forced association when it comes to schools; i.e: children should be able to not only move from class to class and decide which one they want to participate in, but they also shouldn't be forced to be in a school that is geographically close to where they live or even that they should be allowed to choose their teachers and the age group they learn with. 

    another context is referring to christians, if they, say, have a cake business, and are "forced" to make a wedding cake for a gay couple as it is against their religion. 

    in what context exactly are you referring to?
    "Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk"
    -EV  8/14/93




  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Shouldn't all interactions with other people be voluntary?

    I wasn't necessarily referencing a specific example.  
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    If I don't want to deal with someone I should be able to ignore them.  I am not advocating violence, but defense could be appropriate depending on the circumstances. 
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,350
    unsung said:
    Shouldn't all interactions with other people be voluntary?

    I wasn't necessarily referencing a specific example.  
    yes, as long as it doesn't infringe on someone else's rights. 
    "Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk"
    -EV  8/14/93




  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    unsung said:
    dignin said:
    I wish the more accurate term of white supremacist was used instead of white nationalist.
    Exactly. Let's start calling it what it really is.
    They are.  There is a difference.
    What is the difference? 
    Seriously curious to what separates the two.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,171
    unsung said:
    If I don't want to deal with someone I should be able to ignore them.  I am not advocating violence, but defense could be appropriate depending on the circumstances. 
    What are the forced interactions you're ambiguously referencing? 
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    unsung said:
    Shouldn't all interactions with other people be voluntary?

    I wasn't necessarily referencing a specific example.  
    yes, as long as it doesn't infringe on someone else's rights. 
    I would agree with that.  But if I voluntarily remove myself from an interaction that is not an infringement to someone else's rights.

    For example, the baker, if they don't want to bake that cake for the gay couple then that is their right.  It is not the right of the couole to have a cake made for them.  They could go to another baker.  Nobody has a right to force another person into an association, nobody has the right to another person's labor or services.

    Otherwise it is forced and that association is forced.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,350
    unsung said:
    unsung said:
    Shouldn't all interactions with other people be voluntary?

    I wasn't necessarily referencing a specific example.  
    yes, as long as it doesn't infringe on someone else's rights. 
    I would agree with that.  But if I voluntarily remove myself from an interaction that is not an infringement to someone else's rights.

    For example, the baker, if they don't want to bake that cake for the gay couple then that is their right.  It is not the right of the couole to have a cake made for them.  They could go to another baker.  Nobody has a right to force another person into an association, nobody has the right to another person's labor or services.

    Otherwise it is forced and that association is forced.
    no, you cannot operate a business and refuse service to someone based on their gender, orientation, race, etc. that's called discrimination. if you don't want to serve everyone, don't start a business. opening a public business you are waiving your right to be a bigot. 
    "Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk"
    -EV  8/14/93




  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    edited May 2017
    unsung said:
    unsung said:
    Shouldn't all interactions with other people be voluntary?

    I wasn't necessarily referencing a specific example.  
    yes, as long as it doesn't infringe on someone else's rights. 
    I would agree with that.  But if I voluntarily remove myself from an interaction that is not an infringement to someone else's rights.

    For example, the baker, if they don't want to bake that cake for the gay couple then that is their right.  It is not the right of the couole to have a cake made for them.  They could go to another baker.  Nobody has a right to force another person into an association, nobody has the right to another person's labor or services.

    Otherwise it is forced and that association is forced.
    no, you cannot operate a business and refuse service to someone based on their gender, orientation, race, etc. that's called discrimination. if you don't want to serve everyone, don't start a business. opening a public business you are waiving your right to be a bigot. 
    So by opening a business you are waiving your right to voluntarily associate, is that what you are saying?

    And you discriminate on every decision that you make, your definition is a little off.
    Post edited by unsung on
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,845
    unsung said:
    unsung said:
    unsung said:
    Shouldn't all interactions with other people be voluntary?

    I wasn't necessarily referencing a specific example.  
    yes, as long as it doesn't infringe on someone else's rights. 
    I would agree with that.  But if I voluntarily remove myself from an interaction that is not an infringement to someone else's rights.

    For example, the baker, if they don't want to bake that cake for the gay couple then that is their right.  It is not the right of the couole to have a cake made for them.  They could go to another baker.  Nobody has a right to force another person into an association, nobody has the right to another person's labor or services.

    Otherwise it is forced and that association is forced.
    no, you cannot operate a business and refuse service to someone based on their gender, orientation, race, etc. that's called discrimination. if you don't want to serve everyone, don't start a business. opening a public business you are waiving your right to be a bigot. 
    So by opening a business you are waiving your right to voluntarily associate, is that what you are saying?

    And you discriminate on every decision that you make, your definition is a little off.
    Yes, by opening a public business you give up your right to discriminate against groups of people for reasons prohibited by law, including race, gender, sexual orientation, etc. By gaining the benefits of access to the public as clients you give up the right to discriminate against groups of them. 
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,171
    unsung said:
    unsung said:
    Shouldn't all interactions with other people be voluntary?

    I wasn't necessarily referencing a specific example.  
    yes, as long as it doesn't infringe on someone else's rights. 
    I would agree with that.  But if I voluntarily remove myself from an interaction that is not an infringement to someone else's rights.

    For example, the baker, if they don't want to bake that cake for the gay couple then that is their right.  It is not the right of the couole to have a cake made for them.  They could go to another baker.  Nobody has a right to force another person into an association, nobody has the right to another person's labor or services.

    Otherwise it is forced and that association is forced.
    You can look at anti-discrimination laws as forced if you want, but a business person agrees to the rules beforehand. They chose to start a business and agreed to the rules. If you don't want to serve gays, then don't have a business that serves the public. 
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,350
    unsung said:
    unsung said:
    unsung said:
    Shouldn't all interactions with other people be voluntary?

    I wasn't necessarily referencing a specific example.  
    yes, as long as it doesn't infringe on someone else's rights. 
    I would agree with that.  But if I voluntarily remove myself from an interaction that is not an infringement to someone else's rights.

    For example, the baker, if they don't want to bake that cake for the gay couple then that is their right.  It is not the right of the couole to have a cake made for them.  They could go to another baker.  Nobody has a right to force another person into an association, nobody has the right to another person's labor or services.

    Otherwise it is forced and that association is forced.
    no, you cannot operate a business and refuse service to someone based on their gender, orientation, race, etc. that's called discrimination. if you don't want to serve everyone, don't start a business. opening a public business you are waiving your right to be a bigot. 
    So by opening a business you are waiving your right to voluntarily associate, is that what you are saying?

    And you discriminate on every decision that you make, your definition is a little off.
    yes, of course. 

    are you advocating going back to the days of yore when a business would be well within their right to post a sign saying "whites only"?
    "Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk"
    -EV  8/14/93




  • dignindignin Posts: 9,337
    unsung said:
    unsung said:
    unsung said:
    Shouldn't all interactions with other people be voluntary?

    I wasn't necessarily referencing a specific example.  
    yes, as long as it doesn't infringe on someone else's rights. 
    I would agree with that.  But if I voluntarily remove myself from an interaction that is not an infringement to someone else's rights.

    For example, the baker, if they don't want to bake that cake for the gay couple then that is their right.  It is not the right of the couole to have a cake made for them.  They could go to another baker.  Nobody has a right to force another person into an association, nobody has the right to another person's labor or services.

    Otherwise it is forced and that association is forced.
    no, you cannot operate a business and refuse service to someone based on their gender, orientation, race, etc. that's called discrimination. if you don't want to serve everyone, don't start a business. opening a public business you are waiving your right to be a bigot. 
    So by opening a business you are waiving your right to voluntarily associate, is that what you are saying?

    And you discriminate on every decision that you make, your definition is a little off.
    yes, of course. 

    are you advocating going back to the days of yore when a business would be well within their right to post a sign saying "whites only"?
    Well yes, back when America was still great.

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