Richard Spencer

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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,529

    pjhawks said:

    No sympathy from me. If you're a f'n nazi in 2017 and you get punched in the face it's because you're a nazi and it's 2017

    Sympathy isn't required to decide you're not going to punch the guy.
    Agreed. I just don't have any sympathy FOR the guy who got punched. Dirtbags get what they get in my mind
    except who decides who a dirtbag is? some people (might) think gays or a black man are dirtbags. by your definition the person that thinks that way would be ok punching a gay man or a black man. that's why you shouldn't use that it's ok to punch this guy no matter how big of a scumbag he is. obviously he is a piece of shit human being but we have to be very careful as a society to allow violence based on what our beliefs might be...because some people have some f'd up beliefs.
    As a society, I am pretty comfortable with these general guidelines...

    Punching black people for being black = not okay

    Punching gays for being gay = not okay

    Punching Nazis for being Nazis = Just fine
    of course and that is how rational people think but there are many irrational people out there and you can't give them such an opening for violence based on twisted beliefs. irrational people can't or won't grasp general guidelines like you have above. it's a slippery slope to allow violence based on one's beliefs.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    pjhawks said:

    pjhawks said:

    No sympathy from me. If you're a f'n nazi in 2017 and you get punched in the face it's because you're a nazi and it's 2017

    Sympathy isn't required to decide you're not going to punch the guy.
    Agreed. I just don't have any sympathy FOR the guy who got punched. Dirtbags get what they get in my mind
    except who decides who a dirtbag is? some people (might) think gays or a black man are dirtbags. by your definition the person that thinks that way would be ok punching a gay man or a black man. that's why you shouldn't use that it's ok to punch this guy no matter how big of a scumbag he is. obviously he is a piece of shit human being but we have to be very careful as a society to allow violence based on what our beliefs might be...because some people have some f'd up beliefs.
    As a society, I am pretty comfortable with these general guidelines...

    Punching black people for being black = not okay

    Punching gays for being gay = not okay

    Punching Nazis for being Nazis = Just fine
    of course and that is how rational people think but there are many irrational people out there and you can't give them such an opening for violence based on twisted beliefs. irrational people can't or won't grasp general guidelines like you have above. it's a slippery slope to allow violence based on one's beliefs.
    I hear what you are saying and I don't necessarily disagree. That said, I think irrational people are going to do irrational things regardless of what is deemed acceptable.
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487

    pjhawks said:

    No sympathy from me. If you're a f'n nazi in 2017 and you get punched in the face it's because you're a nazi and it's 2017

    Sympathy isn't required to decide you're not going to punch the guy.
    Agreed. I just don't have any sympathy FOR the guy who got punched. Dirtbags get what they get in my mind
    except who decides who a dirtbag is? some people (might) think gays or a black man are dirtbags. by your definition the person that thinks that way would be ok punching a gay man or a black man. that's why you shouldn't use that it's ok to punch this guy no matter how big of a scumbag he is. obviously he is a piece of shit human being but we have to be very careful as a society to allow violence based on what our beliefs might be...because some people have some f'd up beliefs.
    As a society, I am pretty comfortable with these general guidelines...

    Punching black people for being black = not okay

    Punching gays for being gay = not okay

    Punching Nazis for being Nazis = Just fine
    I don't think it is ok to punch anyone. But go ahead and give it your best shot.
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    WTF does "triggered" mean?

    We need a stupid thread that posts a definition when these political catch phrases materialize. I'm still not sure who "snow flakes' are either and who it is dissing. It's like I'm back in the 5th grade.
  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    Jason P said:

    WTF does "triggered" mean?

    We need a stupid thread that posts a definition when these political catch phrases materialize. I'm still not sure who "snow flakes' are either and who it is dissing. It's like I'm back in the 5th grade.

    Don't forget another term recently popularized in public discourse by this thread's namesake: cuck.
    Had been wondering how it had gone from a porn niche to insult du jour on social media....reading a facebook comment thread about this punch, I was directed to an article describing how it was Spencer.
    Snowflake and triggered seem pretty basic to understand....I think that fake angry-Con mouthpiece Tomi is the one popularizing snowflake.

  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,763
    Jason P said:

    WTF does "triggered" mean?

    We need a stupid thread that posts a definition when these political catch phrases materialize. I'm still not sure who "snow flakes' are either and who it is dissing. It's like I'm back in the 5th grade.

    Maybe that's because the current president acts like an immature 5th grader.
    Not a regularly behaved 5th grader.
    An immature narcissistic 5th grader
  • Jason P said:

    WTF does "triggered" mean?

    We need a stupid thread that posts a definition when these political catch phrases materialize. I'm still not sure who "snow flakes' are either and who it is dissing. It's like I'm back in the 5th grade.

    triggered is an emotional response, instead of intellectual. it's almost like a "gotcha" or "made you look" kind of nonsense. 5th grade is a very accurate assessment.

    porn star jenna jameson showed up on my twitter feed over the weekend (i used to follow trump, I deleted him as I couldn't take it anymore), and I noticed she was a trump supporter. I was a bit surprised at this, but I obviously didn't know much about her. I asked a few respectful questions, to which she initially responded, but then I guess she looked at my profile, saw that I was from winnipeg, and said "I see you're from winnipeg. stay out of big boy politics, iceback". And the sheer amount of hate spewing from her followers was amazing. I said nothing disrespectful to her, just asked her if she was ok with his cabinet picks, and I got attacked with a vengeance I couldn't understand.

    apparently asking a question and getting mean-spirited responses makes me the snowflake? it doesn't make any fucking sense.

    she also tweeted "stop islam". that gave me a bit of a window into her mentality.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,950
    unsung said:

    Unsung... don't get worked up. This is just some nazi f**ker getting punched.

    If it was some random dude minding his own business... then we can say "wtf?" But this isn't some guy minding his own business... this is a guy actively promoting hatred and as such... he's fair game.

    I disagree. My position has been stated. You can't just go around hitting people that you don't agree with.
    I never saw you post so much when the topic was how some totally innocent minority got attacked though. Just weird how you only really seem to care so much when it's a neo-Nazi being sucker punched.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,085
    He's just trying to gets us peace loving hippie liberals in a double bind.
  • vaggar99vaggar99 Posts: 3,427
    Jason P said:

    WTF does "triggered" mean?

    We need a stupid thread that posts a definition when these political catch phrases materialize. I'm still not sure who "snow flakes' are either and who it is dissing. It's like I'm back in the 5th grade.

    i love it when someone openly calls me buttercup or snowflake. it just shows their ignorance and lack of originality. no need to argue further with that person
  • i'd rather be a snowflake than a steamy, stinking pile of shit like spencer, lahren, and members of the current administration.

    but that is just me.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761

    i'd rather be a snowflake than a steamy, stinking pile of shit like spencer, lahren, and members of the current administration.

    but that is just me.

    Didn't you vote for said administration? I remember you going back and forth right before the election. Just wondering what caused the change in heart.
  • i'd rather be a snowflake than a steamy, stinking pile of shit like spencer, lahren, and members of the current administration.

    but that is just me.

    Didn't you vote for said administration? I remember you going back and forth right before the election. Just wondering what caused the change in heart.
    no way. i would never, ever, vote for a republican. especially one as stupid as trump.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    Ah. I know it was a poster from St. Louis. You guys always stand out to me because I'm sixty miles north of you on 55.

    Apologies for the error.
  • Ah. I know it was a poster from St. Louis. You guys always stand out to me because I'm sixty miles north of you on 55.

    Apologies for the error.

    no that was the other guy. i have not been around in a bit so i forgot his screen name. would recognize his avatar though.

    yeah man we should get a drink next time there is a big show in town.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,810

    Ah. I know it was a poster from St. Louis. You guys always stand out to me because I'm sixty miles north of you on 55.

    Apologies for the error.

    no that was the other guy. i have not been around in a bit so i forgot his screen name. would recognize his avatar though.

    yeah man we should get a drink next time there is a big show in town.
    That would be PJAlive. Been MIA since his buddy won.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    tbergs said:

    Ah. I know it was a poster from St. Louis. You guys always stand out to me because I'm sixty miles north of you on 55.

    Apologies for the error.

    no that was the other guy. i have not been around in a bit so i forgot his screen name. would recognize his avatar though.

    yeah man we should get a drink next time there is a big show in town.
    That would be PJAlive. Been MIA since his buddy won.
    That's it! I knew that Alive was in there somewhere. He's probably basking in the glory of Trump as President and a complete fuck like Eric Greitens as his Governor.
  • tbergs said:

    Ah. I know it was a poster from St. Louis. You guys always stand out to me because I'm sixty miles north of you on 55.

    Apologies for the error.

    no that was the other guy. i have not been around in a bit so i forgot his screen name. would recognize his avatar though.

    yeah man we should get a drink next time there is a big show in town.
    That would be PJAlive. Been MIA since his buddy won.
    yeah that is him.

    i hope he is alright if he hasn't been around.

    maybe he is like me. just too busy to talk politics anymore.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • tbergs said:

    Ah. I know it was a poster from St. Louis. You guys always stand out to me because I'm sixty miles north of you on 55.

    Apologies for the error.

    no that was the other guy. i have not been around in a bit so i forgot his screen name. would recognize his avatar though.

    yeah man we should get a drink next time there is a big show in town.
    That would be PJAlive. Been MIA since his buddy won.
    That's it! I knew that Alive was in there somewhere. He's probably basking in the glory of Trump as President and a complete fuck like Eric Greitens as his Governor.
    don't get me started on greitens.

    say hello to right to work....for less...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • i'd rather be a snowflake than a steamy, stinking pile of shit like spencer, lahren, and members of the current administration.

    but that is just me.

    ha. Trump is the biggest snowflake of them all.
    I'm through with screaming
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,950
    edited January 2017

    i'd rather be a snowflake than a steamy, stinking pile of shit like spencer, lahren, and members of the current administration.

    but that is just me.

    ha. Trump is the biggest snowflake of them all.
    He's a snowflake wrapped in shit.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    Fuck face is in philly. Probably not the best city for him to be in. People want after him
  • MalrothMalroth Posts: 2,524
    unsung said:

    Malroth said:

    This racist stuff makes me shake with anger and shed tears of sorrow.
    I, more and more, won't let anyone talk this way in my presence.

    *triggered*
    Please excuse my poetic license.
    The worst of times..they don't phase me,
    even if I look and act really crazy.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,950
    edited January 2017
    Malroth said:

    unsung said:

    Malroth said:

    This racist stuff makes me shake with anger and shed tears of sorrow.
    I, more and more, won't let anyone talk this way in my presence.

    *triggered*
    Please excuse my poetic license.
    If blatant racism and bigotry doesn't trigger you, you know you've got a serious problem.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • MalrothMalroth Posts: 2,524
    I don't think the guy should be punched; I just want to punch him. *self trigger*
    The worst of times..they don't phase me,
    even if I look and act really crazy.
  • Malroth said:

    I don't think the guy should be punched; I just want to punch him. *self trigger*

    This is how safe spaces are created.
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487

    Malroth said:

    I don't think the guy should be punched; I just want to punch him. *self trigger*

    This is how safe spaces are created.
    Yeah, don't cry when you get punched back, or shot.
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138

  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    unsung said:

    Malroth said:

    I don't think the guy should be punched; I just want to punch him. *self trigger*

    This is how safe spaces are created.
    Yeah, don't cry when you get punched back, or shot.
    You talk about shooting people an awful lot. Kinda creepy.
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