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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,951

    tbergs said:

    How does one complain/speak out against shit like this?

    Call and email your representatives in DC
    Also join every march/protest you can. Protest does actually still work sometimes. The bigger the better.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    The Gold King Mine disaster was actually caused by Obama's EPA and they missed the boat in Flint. American Carnage.
  • vaggar99vaggar99 Posts: 3,427
    PJ_Soul said:

    tbergs said:

    How does one complain/speak out against shit like this?

    Call and email your representatives in DC
    Also join every march/protest you can. Protest does actually still work sometimes. The bigger the better.
    agreed. it is working. President* is sad.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    edited January 2017
    Kat said:

    When you google censorship of the media...

    Censorship is the suppression of free speech, public communication or other information which may be considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, politically incorrect or inconvenient as determined by governments, media outlets, authorities or other groups or institutions.

    C'mon Kat...you've censored far more people then Trump ever has. Sure this is a forum with rules to be enforced but federal agencies (which include national parks) also have rules with respect to communications and federal employees are expected to follow those rules. If employees of these agencies disagree with the politics of their leaders then they can resign. One has a right to free speech but they don't have the right to operate outside the rules of this forum or outside of the rules of their employer.
    Post edited by BS44325 on
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,086
    BS44325 said:

    Kat said:

    When you google censorship of the media...

    Censorship is the suppression of free speech, public communication or other information which may be considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, politically incorrect or inconvenient as determined by governments, media outlets, authorities or other groups or institutions.

    C'mon Kat...you've censored far more people then Trump ever has. Sure this is a forum with rules to be enforced but federal agencies (which include national parks) also have rules with respect to communications and federal employees are expected to follow those rules. If employees of these agencies disagree with the politics of their leaders then they can resign. One has a right to free speech but they don't have the right to operate outside the rules of this forum or outside of the rules of their employer.
    So do you think what trump did is okay?
  • vaggar99vaggar99 Posts: 3,427
    BS44325 said:

    Kat said:

    When you google censorship of the media...

    Censorship is the suppression of free speech, public communication or other information which may be considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, politically incorrect or inconvenient as determined by governments, media outlets, authorities or other groups or institutions.

    C'mon Kat...you've censored far more people then Trump ever has. Sure this is a forum with rules to be enforced but federal agencies (which include national parks) also have rules with respect to communications and federal employees are expected to follow those rules. If employees of these agencies disagree with the politics of their leaders then they can resign. One has a right to free speech but they don't have the right to operate outside the rules of this forum or outside of the rules of their employer.
    this
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    And you have the right to leave this board if you don't agree with how the band has been asked it to be run.

    Also, to the federal employees who did those tweets- if you get fired or reassigned, it's your own fault. I don't like Trump or what he did today, but he's your boss.
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,086
    vaggar99 said:

    BS44325 said:

    Kat said:

    When you google censorship of the media...

    Censorship is the suppression of free speech, public communication or other information which may be considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, politically incorrect or inconvenient as determined by governments, media outlets, authorities or other groups or institutions.

    C'mon Kat...you've censored far more people then Trump ever has. Sure this is a forum with rules to be enforced but federal agencies (which include national parks) also have rules with respect to communications and federal employees are expected to follow those rules. If employees of these agencies disagree with the politics of their leaders then they can resign. One has a right to free speech but they don't have the right to operate outside the rules of this forum or outside of the rules of their employer.
    this
    Not this. It's BS trying to normalize trump's actions.
  • vaggar99vaggar99 Posts: 3,427

    vaggar99 said:

    BS44325 said:

    Kat said:

    When you google censorship of the media...

    Censorship is the suppression of free speech, public communication or other information which may be considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, politically incorrect or inconvenient as determined by governments, media outlets, authorities or other groups or institutions.

    C'mon Kat...you've censored far more people then Trump ever has. Sure this is a forum with rules to be enforced but federal agencies (which include national parks) also have rules with respect to communications and federal employees are expected to follow those rules. If employees of these agencies disagree with the politics of their leaders then they can resign. One has a right to free speech but they don't have the right to operate outside the rules of this forum or outside of the rules of their employer.
    this
    Not this. It's BS trying to normalize trump's actions.
    sorry. i just found the first line funny
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    BS44325 said:

    The Gold King Mine disaster was actually caused by Obama's EPA and they missed the boat in Flint. American Carnage.
    Wowee, we'd better get rid of the EPA!
    It's been decades since the Cuyahoga river has caught fire, maybe we can make that happen again by 2020!!

    Seriously, you wacky anti-government folks hanging your hat on the Gold King Mine is just pathetic.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    vaggar99 said:

    vaggar99 said:

    BS44325 said:

    Kat said:

    When you google censorship of the media...

    Censorship is the suppression of free speech, public communication or other information which may be considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, politically incorrect or inconvenient as determined by governments, media outlets, authorities or other groups or institutions.

    C'mon Kat...you've censored far more people then Trump ever has. Sure this is a forum with rules to be enforced but federal agencies (which include national parks) also have rules with respect to communications and federal employees are expected to follow those rules. If employees of these agencies disagree with the politics of their leaders then they can resign. One has a right to free speech but they don't have the right to operate outside the rules of this forum or outside of the rules of their employer.
    this
    Not this. It's BS trying to normalize trump's actions.
    sorry. i just found the first line funny
    It's not funny, it's moronic. Having this conversation is so asinine.
  • vaggar99vaggar99 Posts: 3,427

    vaggar99 said:

    vaggar99 said:

    BS44325 said:

    Kat said:

    When you google censorship of the media...

    Censorship is the suppression of free speech, public communication or other information which may be considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, politically incorrect or inconvenient as determined by governments, media outlets, authorities or other groups or institutions.

    C'mon Kat...you've censored far more people then Trump ever has. Sure this is a forum with rules to be enforced but federal agencies (which include national parks) also have rules with respect to communications and federal employees are expected to follow those rules. If employees of these agencies disagree with the politics of their leaders then they can resign. One has a right to free speech but they don't have the right to operate outside the rules of this forum or outside of the rules of their employer.
    this
    Not this. It's BS trying to normalize trump's actions.
    sorry. i just found the first line funny
    It's not funny, it's moronic. Having this conversation is so asinine.
    which part? the part about censorship or about dismantling the EPA?
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,810

    And you have the right to leave this board if you don't agree with how the band has been asked it to be run.

    Also, to the federal employees who did those tweets- if you get fired or reassigned, it's your own fault. I don't like Trump or what he did today, but he's your boss.

    Sometimes it's well worth it to defy your boss. Thank you to the employees who made a choice to use their voice today. I'm sure they understood the ramifications for their actions.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    tbergs said:

    And you have the right to leave this board if you don't agree with how the band has been asked it to be run.

    Also, to the federal employees who did those tweets- if you get fired or reassigned, it's your own fault. I don't like Trump or what he did today, but he's your boss.

    Sometimes it's well worth it to defy your boss. Thank you to the employees who made a choice to use their voice today. I'm sure they understood the ramifications for their actions.
    Exactly. I wish I had their stones to do what they did knowing they'd lose their job.
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    rssesq said:

    Oy vey

    Sweet baby Jeebus, is everything about Jews to you?
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,810
    rgambs said:

    rssesq said:

    Oy vey

    Sweet baby Jeebus, is everything about Jews to you?
    No one has more respect for Jews. Tremendous appreciation!
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    rgambs said:

    rssesq said:

    Oy vey

    Sweet baby Jeebus, is everything about Jews to you?
    Yup. He can't help himself and still complains about freedom of speech on here. I'm amazed he's still around.
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    We obliterate country after country in the name of democracy, then tell those fleeing you're not welcome here! USA! USA! USA!

    U.S. President Donald Trump is expected to sign several executive orders on Wednesday restricting immigration from Syria and six other Middle Eastern or African countries, according to several congressional aides and immigration experts briefed on the matter.

    In addition to Syria, Trump's orders are expected to temporarily restrict access to the United States for most refugees. Another order will block visas from being issued to those from Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen, said the aides and experts, who asked not to be identified.
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    Christ. What a total prick.
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,086

    tbergs said:

    And you have the right to leave this board if you don't agree with how the band has been asked it to be run.

    Also, to the federal employees who did those tweets- if you get fired or reassigned, it's your own fault. I don't like Trump or what he did today, but he's your boss.

    Sometimes it's well worth it to defy your boss. Thank you to the employees who made a choice to use their voice today. I'm sure they understood the ramifications for their actions.
    Exactly. I wish I had their stones to do what they did knowing they'd lose their job.
    And also a few weeks back trump wanted the names of everyone in the epa who went to an annual climate change conference and they told trump to stuff it in a sack.
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    put your seatbelts on folks
  • jerparker20jerparker20 Posts: 2,501
    edited January 2017
    As much as I don't want to perceived as a wingnut, and know we are less than a week into this administration, I somehow can't shake the feeling that this start of an Orwellian prophecy.
    Post edited by jerparker20 on
  • vaggar99vaggar99 Posts: 3,427
    my2hands said:

    put your seatbelts on folks

    i always loved rollercoasters as a kid. i think this will be the one that kills me
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    dignin said:


    Haha "They Live"!
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    Jason P said:

    dignin said:

    mickeyrat said:

    epa ordered into total media blackout.

    This is phenomenal

    https://twitter.com/BadlandsNPS

    What am I supposed to see? Do I need to be signed up to twitter?
    Should be able to see it without. The day Trump shuts down the EPA from saying anything publicly, Badlands National Park starts tweeting about climate change. Coincidence?
    I don't see anything about climate change posted anywhere
    Looks like they were all deleted. They have been screen grabbed as someone else posted. What a fucking bitch, worrying about what a national park is tweeting. Is this real life?
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,810
    edited January 2017
    A lot of effort to hide something that is widely accepted by the world shows how much they know it's true and counter productive to their regressive dirty energy plan.

    I'd like to alter Tool's song, Message to Harry Manback, to Message to Donald Trump. Most applicable line, "Fuck you. Die. Bastard."
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    So Trump is going to order a media blackout of the EPA yet blast the media because he hates them and wants to limit their power at the same time?

    Meanwhile, it used to be up to the journalists to expose the scandals of government. that went away with the privatization of media, that power was taken away from them.

    The 6 corps that own the media answers to the big boss, government. He can do that w/ the blackout, and the media has to bend over and take it. Thank god we have social media.
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